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SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (11/18/2016 12:45:29 AM)

NEW YORK -- The New York Yankees traded veteran catcher Brian McCann and $11 million to the Houston Astros on Thursday for a pair of young minor league pitchers.

Houston sent right-handers Albert Abreu and Jorge Guzman to the Yankees. The Yankees are kicking in $5.5 million of the $17 million McCann will make in each of the next two seasons.




SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (11/18/2016 12:45:49 AM)

Lots of fun watching all the Twins personnel moves so far.




twinsfan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (11/18/2016 8:44:40 AM)

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ORIGINAL: AutoPilot77

Mike Fetters had a brief stint with the twins as well.

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Thank you for the most random comment I've ever read on this board. [&:]




MDK -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (11/18/2016 9:31:55 AM)

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ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

Lots of fun watching all the Twins personnel moves so far.


Everyone's heart is palpitating from all the information and transactions with this new FO in place.




McMurfy -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (11/18/2016 10:05:37 AM)

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ORIGINAL: twinsfan

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ORIGINAL: AutoPilot77

Mike Fetters had a brief stint with the twins as well.

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Thank you for the most random comment I've ever read on this board. [&:]



Ed's post, previous page..Fetters is also one of the D-Back coaches....initially I was also head scratching at that though.




McMurfy -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (11/18/2016 10:09:18 AM)

Speaking of random.

The other night I had a dream I was drinking whiskey in a bar with Twins legend Paul Abbott.


I thought it was so random, couldn't figure out why I had that dream.


Later realized that I've beeen watching the show Shameless, and one of the writers on the credits is named Paul Abbott.


The brain is a weird dude.




Trekgeekscott -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (11/18/2016 11:40:40 AM)

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ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

The Houston Astros and free-agent outfielder Josh Reddick have agreed on a four-year, $52 million contract, a source close to the situation told ESPN's Buster Olney.

The agreement, which is subject to a physical, was first reported by Yahoo! Sports and confirmed by ESPN.

In 155 combined games between the Oakland A's and Los Angeles Dodgers, Reddick hit .281 with 17 doubles, 10 home runs and 37 RBIs, while also providing steady defense in right field.




Is .281 17 doubles 10 Home runs 37 RbIs and steady defense really worth 13Mil a year?

Wait

What does Mauer get and what are his numbers. Nevermind. Reddick appears to be a bargain!!!




Trekgeekscott -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (11/18/2016 11:42:47 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Black 47

I would have loved for Lovullo to replace Molitor. Missed out on a good candidate because of a stupid commitment to Molitor.



Doug Mientkiewicz is still in house and he's a good candidate too.




twinsfan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (11/18/2016 11:49:57 AM)

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ORIGINAL: McMurfy

Speaking of random.

The other night I had a dream I was drinking whiskey in a bar with Twins legend Paul Abbott.


I thought it was so random, couldn't figure out why I had that dream.


Later realized that I've beeen watching the show Shameless, and one of the writers on the credits is named Paul Abbott.


The brain is a weird dude.

That's whack.




SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (11/18/2016 11:37:35 PM)

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ORIGINAL: twinsfan

quote:

ORIGINAL: McMurfy

Speaking of random.

The other night I had a dream I was drinking whiskey in a bar with Twins legend Paul Abbott.


I thought it was so random, couldn't figure out why I had that dream.


Later realized that I've beeen watching the show Shameless, and one of the writers on the credits is named Paul Abbott.


The brain is a weird dude.

That's whack.

Fo shizzle, mattizzle




SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (11/19/2016 1:38:44 AM)

It’s been a busy offseason for the Mariners, who began restructuring their infield and outfield platoons last weekend after they acquired Danny Valencia from the Athletics. On Friday night, they confirmed a five-player deal with the Rays that sent infielder/outfielders Richie Shaffer and Taylor Motter to Seattle and first baseman Dalton Kelly and right-handers Dylan Thompson and Andrew Kittredge to Tampa Bay.




ewen21 -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (11/19/2016 9:48:00 AM)

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ORIGINAL: twinsfan

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ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

ick
Porcello won AL CY ; Verlander was left off 2 ballots completely

Porcello’s win came over fellow finalists Justin Verlander of the Tigers and Corey Kluber of the Indians. All were worthy contenders in a year in which nobody put up a truly dominant year. The best A.L. pitchers on a rate basis was reliever Zach Britton, who managed a fourth-place finish despite the innings limitations inherent to his job.

The vote came with its share of controversy. Verlander received 14 of the 30 available first-place votes, but narrowly missed the award when he was left off of two ballots altogether.


Rick Porcello, Red Sox 8 18 2 1 1 137
Justin Verlander, Tigers 14 2 5 4 3 132
Corey Kluber, Indians 3 6 12 8 1 98
Zach Britton, Orioles 5 3 2 5 9 72
Chris Sale, White Sox 1 4 9 6 40
J.A. Happ, Blue Jays 3 2 1 14
Aaron Sanchez, Blue Jays 1 3 6
Masahiro Tanaka, Yankees 1 4 6
Andrew Miller, Yankees/Indians 1 3
Michael Fulmer, Tigers 1 1
Jose Quintana, White Sox 1 1

Zero votes for Ervin Santana. That kind of upsets me.



He would be perpetual presidential candidate Pat Paulson. Yeah he got some votes but who really cares?
Jacque Jones got a HOF vote. Whatever

Only goes to show how bad our pitching is. Not one of them got a single vote




twinsfan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (11/22/2016 8:40:24 AM)

Per Ed:

4:23pm: Free-agent catcher Jason Castro has received three-year offers from multiple clubs, according to Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports (Twitter links). A team willing to push its offer to four years could ultimately be the team to lock a deal into place, he notes, adding that many clubs are viewing Nick Hundley as a “Plan B” to Castro. The exception there, it seems, is the Orioles, who view Hundley as their top target, one source tells Rosenthal. BaltimoreBaseball.com’s Dan Connolly reported the Orioles’ interest in Hundley earlier today.




twinsfan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (11/22/2016 9:14:30 AM)

The HOF ballot has been released:

Jeff Bagwell
Casey Blake
Barry Bonds
Pat Burrell
Orlando Cabrera
Mike Cameron
Roger Clemens
J.D. Drew
Carlos Guillen
Vladimir Guerrero
Trevor Hoffman
Jeff Kent
Derrek Lee
Edgar Martinez
Fred McGriff
Melvin Mora
Mike Mussina
Magglio Ordonez
Jorge Posada
Tim Raines
Manny Ramirez
Edgar Renteria
Arthur Rhodes
Ivan Rodriguez
Freddy Sanchez
Curt Schilling
Gary Sheffield
Lee Smith
Sammy Sosa
Matt Stairs
Jason Varitek
Billy Wagner
Tim Wakefield
Larry Walker

Hoffman and Bagwell get in this year? Vlad too? Would love to see Raines get in, but I'm not holding my breath.

Pudge might have to wait a few years, ala Piazza.




Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (11/22/2016 9:19:19 AM)

No to Hoffman. He was good, but bleh. Anyone can close, except Ron Davis and Glen Perkins.

I find it ridiculous that these guys even make the ballot

Blake
OCab
Lee
Mora
Renteria
Rhodes
Sanchez
Stairs
Varitek
Wagner
Wakefield

I vote in

Bonds
Manny
Sosa

Hall of Cheaters. Pretty soon mediocrity will be the norm for induction




CPAMAN -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (11/22/2016 10:08:28 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

No to Hoffman. He was good, but bleh. Anyone can close, except Ron Davis and Glen Perkins.

I find it ridiculous that these guys even make the ballot

Blake
OCab
Lee
Mora
Renteria
Rhodes
Sanchez
Stairs
Varitek
Wagner
Wakefield

I vote in

Bonds
Manny
Sosa

Hall of Cheaters. Pretty soon mediocrity will be the norm for induction


The mediocrity norm will be tested when Joe Mauer becomes eligible for HOF voting. If Mauer is elected into the HOF, I will quit watching MLB for the rest of my life.




CPAMAN -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (11/22/2016 10:12:11 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

quote:

ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

The Houston Astros and free-agent outfielder Josh Reddick have agreed on a four-year, $52 million contract, a source close to the situation told ESPN's Buster Olney.

The agreement, which is subject to a physical, was first reported by Yahoo! Sports and confirmed by ESPN.

In 155 combined games between the Oakland A's and Los Angeles Dodgers, Reddick hit .281 with 17 doubles, 10 home runs and 37 RBIs, while also providing steady defense in right field.




Is .281 17 doubles 10 Home runs 37 RbIs and steady defense really worth 13Mil a year?

Wait

What does Mauer get and what are his numbers. Nevermind. Reddick appears to be a bargain!!!


Mauer's stats are commensurate with ML players who platoon at a position and get around 350 AB per season. But now that I think about it, Joe really is a platoon player because he only plays in about 75% of the games played each season.




Trekgeekscott -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (11/22/2016 11:13:07 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

No to Hoffman. He was good, but bleh. Anyone can close, except Ron Davis and Glen Perkins.

I find it ridiculous that these guys even make the ballot

Blake
OCab
Lee
Mora
Renteria
Rhodes
Sanchez
Stairs
Varitek
Wagner
Wakefield

I vote in

Bonds
Manny
Sosa

Hall of Cheaters. Pretty soon mediocrity will be the norm for induction


Um, to be on the ballot a player only needed to play for ten years in the majors...IIRC.

When they get enough votes in year one to stay on the ballot is when you have to get touchy with the voters.




Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (11/22/2016 5:54:48 PM)

Major League Baseball’s owners “will consider” instituting a player lockout if a new collective bargaining agreement between the league and the MLB Player’s Association can’t be found, according to a report from Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports. The current CBA is set to expire on December 1st, and the sides are said to be at an impasse over several matters.




Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (11/22/2016 5:55:58 PM)

3. Eligible Candidates -- Candidates to be eligible must meet the following requirements:

A. A baseball player must have been active as a player in the Major Leagues at some time during a period beginning fifteen (15) years before and ending five (5) years prior to election.

B. Player must have played in each of ten (10) Major League championship seasons, some part of which must have been within the period described in 3(A).

C. Player shall have ceased to be an active player in the Major Leagues at least five (5) calendar years preceding the election but may be otherwise connected with baseball.

D. In case of the death of an active player or a player who has been retired for less than five (5) full years, a candidate who is otherwise eligible shall be eligible in the next regular election held at least six (6) months after the date of death or after the end of the five (5) year period, whichever occurs first.

E. Any player on Baseball's ineligible list shall not be an eligible candidate.
BBWAA Election Process
BBWAA Election Process
4. Method of Election:

A. BBWAA Screening Committee -- A Screening Committee consisting of baseball writers will be appointed by the BBWAA. This Screening Committee shall consist of six members, with two members to be elected at each Annual Meeting for a three-year term. The duty of the Screening Committee shall be to prepare a ballot listing in alphabetical order eligible candidates who (1) received a vote on a minimum of five percent (5%) of the ballots cast in the preceding election or (2) are eligible for the first time and are nominated by any two of the six members of the BBWAA Screening Committee.

B. An elector will vote for no more than ten (10) eligible candidates deemed worthy of election. Write-in votes are not permitted.

C. Any candidate receiving votes on seventy-five percent (75%) of the ballots cast shall be elected to membership in the National Baseball Hall of Fame.




twinsfan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (11/23/2016 12:43:05 PM)

Huh??? Javier Vazquez didn't make the HOF ballot, but Freddy Sanchez did?!??!? I always like Vazquez as a "sleeper" HOF candidate. Kind of the pitching version of Coco Crisp.

One and done

Mike Cameron (46.5 bWAR career), J.D. Drew (44.9), Magglio Ordoñez (38.5), Tim Wakefield (34.6), Derrek Lee (34.3), Edgar Renteria (32.1), Melvin Mora (28.2), Carlos Guillen (27.7), Casey Blake (24.9), Jason Varitek (24.3), Orlando Cabrera (21.4), Pat Burrell (18.8), Freddy Sanchez (15.8), Arthur Rhodes (15.4), Matt Stairs (14.3)

The 15 players listed above all had distinguished Major League careers, but they are unlikely to draw more than a handful of votes between them. Javier Vazquez, who inexplicably did not make this year's ballot in what was his first year of eligibility, was unlikely to fare any better, but nonetheless deserves mention here. He finished his career with 46.0 bWAR, 165 wins, 2,536 strikeouts, and a higher JAWS score than Hall of Famer Catfish Hunter or recent near miss Jack Morris.




twinsfan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (11/23/2016 12:52:33 PM)

Found this by Jay Jaffe:

Where is Javier Vazquez?

Good question. In any given year, among the newcomers are several who stick out as players with absolutely zero chance of election and little chance of getting even a single vote. This year's group includes Cabrera, Guillen, Mora and Rhodes. For such players, some of whom made All-Star teams and helped win championships, merely appearing on the ballot is the final stop of their fine careers. But not every eligible player who attains that level makes it past the screening committee and onto the ballot, and weird things can happen along the fringes. In 2014, for example, Shannon Stewart (who finished fourth in the AL MVP vote in 2003) and Esteban Loaiza (the AL Cy Young runner-up that same year) were left off the ballot while Jacque Jones and Armando Benitez made the cut. Last year, Chan Ho-Park, who won 124 games, made an All-Star team and was the majors' first Korean-born player, was left off.

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This year's recipient of the ballot screw job is Vazquez, who spent 14 years in the bigs with the Expos, Yankees, Diamondbacks, White Sox, Braves and Marlins, going 165-160 with a 4.22 ERA with one All-Star appearance and three trips to the postseason. No, that's not a Hall of Fame ERA (the highest is Red Ruffing's 3.80), but it’s lower than Wakefield’s 4.41. In addition, Vazquez’s 105 ERA+ matches that of Wakefield and is better than those of the enshrined Hunter (104) and Rube Marquard (103). The knuckleballing Wakefield has exactly 200 wins while Vazquez does not, but his total is still the highest of any player born in Puerto Rico. As with the snub of Park, that's a bad look for the BBWAA.


This can't be a matter of won-loss record, since Vazquez is five games over .500 while past candidates such as Bobo Newsom (211-222), Tom Zachary (186-191) and Danny Darwin (171-182) had losing records. Among BBWAA-eligible players with a 3.50 ERA or higher, I could find only four with more wins who never made the ballot: Bob Friend (197-230, 3.58 ERA, 107 ERA+), Murray Dickson (172-181, 3.66 ERA, 109 ERA+), Bill Lee—not the Spaceman—(169-157, 3.54 ERA, 106 ERA+) and John Burkett (166-136, 4.31 ERA, 99 ERA+).

What's more, Vazquez ranks 30th all-time in strikeouts (2,536), with six years in his league's top five. Yes, he played in a strikeout-heavy era, but no player with that many strikeouts has ever been skipped. Vazquez's 41.1 JAWS is tied with Hall of Famer Addie Joss for 136th all-time, ahead of six other enshrined starters (Hunter and Marquard included), as well as Morris (38.4) and Wakefield (29.8). It's still 21 points below the standard at the position, low enough that in my series he'd get a brief career summary instead of a full rundown, but he deserved one more chance to take a bow for his distinguished service.


http://www.si.com/mlb/2016/11/22/2017-hall-fame-ballot-jaws-javier-vazquez




Trekgeekscott -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (11/23/2016 1:26:54 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

Major League Baseball’s owners “will consider” instituting a player lockout if a new collective bargaining agreement between the league and the MLB Player’s Association can’t be found, according to a report from Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports. The current CBA is set to expire on December 1st, and the sides are said to be at an impasse over several matters.


DUH.

If they didn't consider it, it would take all the bargaining power and put it in the hands of the Union.

In other news, the Union will consider striking...




SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (11/24/2016 12:38:51 AM)

Moves moves, moves


SEATTLE -- The Mariners finally landed the established shortstop they've long been trying to find.

To do it, they had to part with a talented young pitcher who still has the potential to blossom.

Seattle and Arizona pulled off a five-player trade on Wednesday night, with the Mariners acquiring speedy infielder Jean Segura and the Diamondbacks getting right-hander Taijuan Walker as the centerpieces of the deal.

Segura immediately projects as Seattle's leadoff hitter and starting shortstop, solidifying an infield that already includes Kyle Seager at third base and Robinson Cano at second. Segura hit .319 with 20 home runs and 63 RBIs last season for the Diamondbacks, led the National League with 203 hits and posted a career-high 5.7 WAR.




ewen21 -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (11/24/2016 11:10:55 AM)

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ORIGINAL: CPAMAN

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

No to Hoffman. He was good, but bleh. Anyone can close, except Ron Davis and Glen Perkins.

I find it ridiculous that these guys even make the ballot

Blake
OCab
Lee
Mora
Renteria
Rhodes
Sanchez
Stairs
Varitek
Wagner
Wakefield

I vote in

Bonds
Manny
Sosa

Hall of Cheaters. Pretty soon mediocrity will be the norm for induction


The mediocrity norm will be tested when Joe Mauer becomes eligible for HOF voting. If Mauer is elected into the HOF, I will quit watching MLB for the rest of my life.


If he were inducted I'd probably get in my 07 Toyota Corolla (which by then would have about 400,000 miles on it) and take little day trip to Cooperstown. I'd fly solo. I'd play golf and drink in the bars and complain the whole to anyone in earshot about how lame it is that he got in. I'd do this while wearing a Twins cap.




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