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Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (11/29/2016 9:24:44 AM)

Brewers decided to sign Eric Thames to 3 years/16 mill, after failing in mlb but having success overseas

They've cut Chris Carter, despite 41 dingers in 2016




sixthwi -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (11/29/2016 9:27:00 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

Brewers decided to sign Eric Thames to 3 years/16 mill, after failing in mlb but having success overseas

They've cut Chris Carter, despite 41 dingers in 2016



Too many strikeouts, low OBP, and poor defense. Sounds like a number of guys in the Twins organization. Money was probably a big reason too. He was expected to get about 10 million in arbitration.




Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (11/29/2016 10:41:59 AM)

The Marlins have reportedly struck a two-year deal with free agent righty Edinson Volquez. Volquez will receive a $22MM guarantee, assuming he passes his physical.




McMurfy -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (11/29/2016 11:58:13 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

Brewers decided to sign Eric Thames to 3 years/16 mill, after failing in mlb but having success overseas

They've cut Chris Carter, despite 41 dingers in 2016




All he does is hit Home Runs
-Buddy Ryan




sixthwi -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (11/29/2016 12:08:07 PM)

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ORIGINAL: McMurfy

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

Brewers decided to sign Eric Thames to 3 years/16 mill, after failing in mlb but having success overseas

They've cut Chris Carter, despite 41 dingers in 2016




All he does is hit Home Runs
-Buddy Ryan



And K over 200 times. [;)]




David Levine -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (12/1/2016 2:29:31 AM)

APNewsBreak: All-Star Game no longer determines Series start

NEW YORK (AP) — The league that wins baseball's All-Star Game no longer will get home-field advantage in the World Series, which instead will go to the pennant winner with the better regular-season record.

The change was included in Major League Baseball's tentative new collective bargaining agreement and disclosed early Thursday to The Associated Press by a person familiar with the agreement. The person spoke on condition of anonymity because details of the deal, reached Wednesday evening in Irving, Texas, had not been announced.

In addition, players and management agreed the minimum stay on the disabled list will be reduced from 15 days to 10.

Home-field advantage in the World Series generally rotated between the leagues through 2002. Baseball, led by then-Commissioner Bud Selig, and Fox television promoted the "This Time It Counts" innovation after the 2002 All-Star Game in Milwaukee ended in a 7-7, 11-inning tie when both teams ran out of pitchers. Selig was booed in his own Milwaukee backyard.

"This energizes it. This gives them something to really play for," Selig said after owners approved the change by a 30-0 vote in January 2003. "People pay a lot of money to see that game. They deserve to see the same intensity they see all year long. Television people pay a lot of money for the game. It was not and should not be a meaningless exhibition game."

What began as a two-year experiment was extended. The American League won 11 of 14 All-Star Games played under the rule, and the AL representative won eight World Series in those years.

"It will put back a little of the sizzle," San Francisco Giants executive Larry Baer said in 2003.

As part of the changes for next year, players in the All-Star Game will have the incentive to play for a pool of money.

The DL change will allow teams to make quicker decisions on whether to bring up a roster replacement rather than wait to see whether the injured player would be ready to return to action in less than two weeks.

An international play plan is part of the new agreement that includes a payment schedule for potential games in Asia, Mexico, Latin America and Britain, plus U.S.-based special events such as this year's July 3 game between Atlanta and Miami in a specially built ballpark on a military base in Fort Bragg, North Carolina.

https://apnews.com/331d6e369c2147709dde04ae7f0507b1/APNewsBreak:-All-Star-Game-no-longer-determines-Series-start




Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (12/1/2016 7:34:14 AM)

Thanks DL

Good deal. WS home team based on the all-star game was a joke.




SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (12/1/2016 7:37:25 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

Thanks DL

Good deal. WS home team based on the all-star game was a joke.

Made ZERO sense.




SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (12/1/2016 11:21:22 AM)

The Pirates and Nationals have ramped up discussions about a trade that would send Andrew McCutchen to Washington, according to sources who have spoken with both teams. The Nationals, according to one exec, would like to make this deal today, because the ripple effect of trading for McCutchen would likely be a move to nontender shortstop Danny Espinosa before tomorrow's tender date. The Nationals have been looking for a center fielder. So if they can trade for McCutchen, he would play center, which would bounce Trea Turner to short and leave no spot for Espinosa. The Pirates are looking for controllable starting pitching. So names like Joe Ross and Reynaldo Lopez would fit that shopping list.





David Levine -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (12/1/2016 12:12:00 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

Thanks DL

Good deal. WS home team based on the all-star game was a joke.


It was a horrible idea from the start. But so was alternating years.

I like the new plan. If the top teams in each league are close in wins to each other, it gives them incentive to keep trying down the stretch - even if they have a significant lead in their own league.

Its a big win for the fans.




Black 47 -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (12/1/2016 1:44:27 PM)

Selig buffoonery.




Black 47 -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (12/1/2016 1:46:33 PM)

Take the game back to where the leagues hated each other and they played to win and kill the other team (Pete Rose play at home plate). Unfortunately free agency and interleague play destroyed AL/NL rivalries.




twinsfan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (12/1/2016 6:49:40 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: David Levine

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

Thanks DL

Good deal. WS home team based on the all-star game was a joke.


It was a horrible idea from the start. But so was alternating years.

I like the new plan. If the top teams in each league are close in wins to each other, it gives them incentive to keep trying down the stretch - even if they have a significant lead in their own league.

Its a big win for the fans.

Anyone know the tie-breaker?

I actually liked the All-Star game determining home-field advantage in the WS. [sm=shrug.gif] I enjoyed seeing the NL guys sulking at the end of the game.




ewen21 -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (12/1/2016 7:37:27 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Black 47

Take the game back to where the leagues hated each other and they played to win and kill the other team (Pete Rose play at home plate). Unfortunately free agency and interleague play destroyed AL/NL rivalries.

All Star games in all sports are pointless. The mattered when I was a kid. I was interested in seeing all the great players I couldn't usually see and players played these games like any other games because fan interest was high. Now who the heck cares? When ESPN came on the scene they pretty much rendered it useless. Then with the onset of the Internet and interleague play it was totally obliterated. Slam dunk competitions, skills competitions and home run derbys are just gimmicks.

And while I'm on it, can the NFL stop it with all the night games and these London games? Please.




Trekgeekscott -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (12/2/2016 8:20:56 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: twinsfan

quote:

ORIGINAL: David Levine

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

Thanks DL

Good deal. WS home team based on the all-star game was a joke.


It was a horrible idea from the start. But so was alternating years.

I like the new plan. If the top teams in each league are close in wins to each other, it gives them incentive to keep trying down the stretch - even if they have a significant lead in their own league.

Its a big win for the fans.

Anyone know the tie-breaker?

I actually liked the All-Star game determining home-field advantage in the WS. [sm=shrug.gif] I enjoyed seeing the NL guys sulking at the end of the game.


I don't know. but I would do interleague record.




SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (12/3/2016 10:12:19 AM)

Washington Nationals acquire catcher Derek Norris from San Diego Padres for RHP Pedro Avila




McMurfy -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (12/3/2016 10:28:43 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: twinsfan

quote:

ORIGINAL: David Levine

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

Thanks DL

Good deal. WS home team based on the all-star game was a joke.


It was a horrible idea from the start. But so was alternating years.

I like the new plan. If the top teams in each league are close in wins to each other, it gives them incentive to keep trying down the stretch - even if they have a significant lead in their own league.

Its a big win for the fans.

Anyone know the tie-breaker?

I actually liked the All-Star game determining home-field advantage in the WS. [sm=shrug.gif] I enjoyed seeing the NL guys sulking at the end of the game.



I did too.
The game is meaningless again now.
More cash to the Millionaire winners?
Great.




SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (12/3/2016 10:31:40 AM)

That whole rewarding the MVP with a new vehicle is about as exciting and unpredictable as a Trump social gaffe
Trout looks at them and goes ... "ok, cool. Umm, thanks I guess"




SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (12/3/2016 12:47:55 PM)

Astros signing of Carlos Beltran leaves the Yankees, Blue Jays and Rangers most likely landing spots for Edwin Encarnacion





Steve Lentz -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (12/3/2016 1:09:22 PM)

Omaha signs with the Cubs.




SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (12/3/2016 6:04:43 PM)

Friday at 8 p.m. ET marked the deadline for teams to tender a contract to arbitration-eligible players. By tendering a contract, the team maintains control of the player and has an opportunity to reach a deal with the player in arbitration if a contract can’t be worked out otherwise. Not tendering a contract means the player immediately becomes a free agent eligible to sign with any team.

Such decisions typically revolve around established players who have worked their way up the pay scale, but may not be seen as worth the money. In other instances, teams are simply looking to cut payroll and non-tendering gives them any easy out.

Usually, this process doesn’t lead to any truly huge names becoming available. However, this year’s list does have some very interesting names, including a potential difference-making pitcher. With that in mind, we’ll take a quick look at the four most interesting players who are now free agents and who are likely to draw some serious interest.


Tyson Ross — San Diego Padres

This was the shocker of the day. The Padres non-tendered the most players overall with five. They also non-tendered the most prominent in 29-year-old right-hander Tyson Ross.

Ross, who served as the Padres ace in 2015, made just one start in 2016 before he was shut down for the season with a shoulder issue. He ultimately required surgery in October for thoracic outlet syndrome, which undoubtedly contributed to the Padres decision. His status for opening day is clearly in question, but there’s enough upside here that he seemed to be worth waiting for to see if he could start healthy and rebuild his value.

At this time last year, Ross was atop the list of trade targets for teams needing a pitcher. After the Padres held tight throughout the winter, Ross was expected to be among the biggest names discussed at the trade deadline. Obviously that didn’t materialize either due to his health. Point being, it’s amazing to see just how much Ross’ value to the Padres declined in 12 months.

Rest assured though, Ross will land on his feet. Over seven seasons, he’s posted a 3.64 ERA and proven that when healthy, he can make an impact.


Ben Revere — Washington Nationals

The Washington Nationals helped clear an outfield logjam (that could soon include Andrew McCutchen) by non-tendering Ben Revere.

The move had been expected all offseason, but came into clearler focus as rumors circulated around McCutchen and other outfielders the Nationals have interest in targeting. Revere’s time in Washington was simply over after a season plagued by injuries and dismal production. In 103 games, Revere hit just .217/.260/.300 with two homers and 24 RBIs.

Still just 28, Revere does set up as a strong bounceback candidate and a potentially solid bargain for a team needing an outfielder. To keep him healthy, the signing team should consider a move to left field. Above that though, they should feel pretty confident signing a player who hit an impressive 303/.334/.360 between 2013 and 2015.


Chris Carter — Milwaukee Brewers

Milwaukee made its decision on Carter on Monday, not long before agreeing to a three-year deal with Eric Thames to serve as their new first baseman. It was a little surprising at first, seeing as Carter just finished as the National League co-leader in home runs with 41. However, he did only hit .222, and he’s come to be known as a strikeout machine after going down on strikes 751 times over the last four seasons.

Carter is in his second year of arbitration after earning an affordable $2.5M last season. He was expected to command $9-$10M in arbitration this winter, but may earn more on a one- or two-year deal this winter as teams look for a first-base power source.


Seth Maness — St. Louis Cardinals

As we noted, there aren’t a lot of household names on this list, but there are definitely contributors. Assuming he proves healthy, Maness should be just that for his next employer.

Over the last four seasons, Maness has proven to be a stabilizing force. In 237 1/3 career innings, he’s posted a 3.19 ERA to go along with 17 wins and seven saves. He’s recognized as a ground ball specialist, which is why manager Mike Matheny would go to him when the team needed a double play.

Unfortunately, his status for the beginning of 2017 is in question after he required UCL surgery in August. It was not a full ligament replacement, but there are obviously concerns about his ability to contribute in the short-term. He’s well worth taking a flier on though and we’re sure teams will line up hoping for a bargain.




Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (12/3/2016 8:49:59 PM)

Twins have the #1 pick for the Rule 5

Will be curious to whom they grab. I have more confidence in this one than any in a while.

Not that the guy will be great.

But better than the slugs Ryan kept taking.




SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (12/5/2016 8:10:41 AM)



Former St. Louis Cardinals slugger Matt Holliday and the New York Yankees have agreed to a one-year deal worth $13 million, a source told ESPN's Jim Bowden, confirming multiple reports.

Holliday, who turns 37 next month, fits into the Yankees' strategy of signing veterans to short-term deals while pivoting toward a youth movement.


Yankees quietly make these deals, and they work out or they don't.
No one will hyperventilate if it doesn't work.
You try shit and move on. Its called owning a sports team in this century.




SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (12/5/2016 8:45:02 AM)

Sources: The Jays and Steve Pearce agree to a two-year, $12.5 million deal.





Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (12/5/2016 9:11:43 AM)

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ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

Sources: The Jays and Steve Pearce agree to a two-year, $12.5 million deal.




That would seem to lessen the likelihood of Encarnacion returning? Maybe?

Good on Pearce. Of course, he was not good enough to stick with the Twins a few years back. [&o]

Holliday to NYY gives them a vet presence, worth as much as anything. That's what Houston did with Beltran.




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