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Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (4/13/2014 11:01:33 PM)

Kirk Gibson will probably be the first manager canned this year, unless the D-Backs turn it around.

Now at 4-11



Stacey King -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (4/13/2014 11:03:29 PM)

because you know. when you are loyal like the Twins you have to promote from within.

wouldn't want any fresh perspective coming in and ruining a good thing.

1 play-off round win in 23 years and all



SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (4/13/2014 11:03:35 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

Kirk Gibson will probably be the first manager canned this year, unless the D-Backs turn it around.

Now at 4-11


You mean he wont be allowed to lose 280 games over three seasons?
Wow, that's kind of harsh. 

[&:][&:][&:]



Stacey King -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (4/13/2014 11:06:52 PM)

If Molitor wants to move on, he will be our version of Mike Tomlin.

Right in our lap, he will move on to success in a year while we keep the known quantity.



SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (4/13/2014 11:08:34 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Stacey King

If Molitor wants to move on, he will be our version of Mike Tomlin.

Right in our lap, he will move on to success in a year while we keep the known quantity.


Exactly what I see happening.



SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (4/13/2014 11:10:28 PM)

Don't kid yourself ... every other MLB team sees him in the dugout
They know what that means ..... "hes back IN"
He will either get a shot here soon, or someone will come after him.
The pedigree on that guy isn't going to allow him to be someones lackey for years ...



Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (4/14/2014 5:40:49 AM)

Again...the BO Sux media Arrogance.


Red Sox fear Dustin Pedroia’s wrist injury could be serious

Pedroia left the Sox in New York to get his wrist tested and MRId on Monday. If the worst should happen with Pedroia and he's out for much of the season, the Sox have options to replace him, but clearly Roberts and Herrera are substandard, at best, while Brock Holt is untested and has a suspect glove, as well. Will Middlebrooks, as was the case for much of 2013, is once again on the DL, as well.

While Stephen Drew seems like the obvious solution, what about Brian Dozier? Well, consider his spray chart applied to Fenway, where instead of the Target Field left field dimensions of 343/385/408, you'd have a much friendlier set of numbers: 308/334/390.



SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (4/14/2014 6:12:18 AM)

Would be just like the Twins to get fleeced by the mighty Sox.
And lose one of the few productive pieces we do have.
They're probably already petrified about what they may have to pay him the next time his contract comes up ... (next year)



djskillz -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (4/14/2014 9:44:21 AM)

Well, in fairness (and don't take this as a slight because I've really grown to like the guy) Dozier's had a good couple weeks but he's not exactly tearing it up. His slash line is .191/.328/.468/.796.

He needs to really improve that average and OBP, and you gotta figure he will, while the power will come down some. But he's still a decent candidate to trade later this year, all dependent on how Rosario does starting in the middle of May. And the Sox do have a loaded system.



ewen21 -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (4/14/2014 9:49:51 AM)

And yet Dozier--a leadoff hitter with a .191 batting average--has more RBI than our resident superstar.

Dozier also has two game winning RBI this year:
http://www.sportingcharts.com/mlb/stats/player-game-winning-rbis/2014/

That equals Mauer's total for all of last season.

This is a fact. THat's all it is.



Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (4/14/2014 9:51:16 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: djskillz

Well, in fairness (and don't take this as a slight because I've really grown to like the guy) Dozier's had a good couple weeks but he's not exactly tearing it up. His slash line is .191/.328/.468/.796.

He needs to really improve that average and OBP, and you gotta figure he will, while the power will come down some. But he's still a decent candidate to trade later this year, all dependent on how Rosario does starting in the middle of May. And the Sox do have a loaded system.



First, you have to believe Rosario will be at 2nd base. And that's not a guarantee,either. He saw plenty of innings in LF during Arizona Fall League.

There is no way they will trade him.

A: He's affordable(re: CHEAP)
B: He's under team control



djskillz -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (4/14/2014 9:53:11 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: ewen21

And yet Dozier--a leadoff hitter with a .191 batting average--has more RBI than our resident superstar.

Dozier also has two game winning RBI this year:
http://www.sportingcharts.com/mlb/stats/player-game-winning-rbis/2014/

That equals Mauer's total for all of last season.

This is a fact. THat's all it is.


And?



djskillz -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (4/14/2014 9:56:01 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

quote:

ORIGINAL: djskillz

Well, in fairness (and don't take this as a slight because I've really grown to like the guy) Dozier's had a good couple weeks but he's not exactly tearing it up. His slash line is .191/.328/.468/.796.

He needs to really improve that average and OBP, and you gotta figure he will, while the power will come down some. But he's still a decent candidate to trade later this year, all dependent on how Rosario does starting in the middle of May. And the Sox do have a loaded system.



First, you have to believe Rosario will be at 2nd base. And that's not a guarantee,either. He saw plenty of innings in LF during Arizona Fall League.

There is no way they will trade him.

A: He's affordable(re: CHEAP)
B: He's under team control


Certainly. It's all on Rosario. But IF he rebounds after the suspension, one of those 2 guys is really our most tradeable chip. I honestly don't care which one at this point. I'm not nearly as high on Rosario as an OF'er (the bat just isn't as valuable) and we have so many other OF options going forward. We have a lack of MI options.

The only other thing would be to perhaps try Dozier back at SS if Nunez can't hack it either and they don't sign Drew. But I doubt Dozier can handle SS still and we know Rosario can't.

IF Rosario plays well again, one of those guys has to be dealt probably later this year or in the offseason. And I don't really have an issue with that as long as we get a good return.



Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (4/14/2014 10:00:31 AM)

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Certainly. It's all on Rosario. But IF he rebounds after the suspension, one of those 2 guys is really our most tradeable chip. I honestly don't care which one at this point. I'm not nearly as high on Rosario as an OF'er (the bat just isn't as valuable) and we have so many other OF options going forward. We have a lack of MI options.



So there's the issue. The Twins are already working Rosario to move out of 2B after 1 full season of trying it.

Dumb as ***



ewen21 -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (4/14/2014 10:04:10 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: djskillz

quote:

ORIGINAL: ewen21

And yet Dozier--a leadoff hitter with a .191 batting average--has more RBI than our resident superstar.

Dozier also has two game winning RBI this year:
http://www.sportingcharts.com/mlb/stats/player-game-winning-rbis/2014/

That equals Mauer's total for all of last season.

This is a fact. THat's all it is.


And?


It's a stand alone statement Dustin.

You can paint over it if you like, but the facts cannot be altered



ewen21 -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (4/14/2014 10:06:26 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: djskillz

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

quote:

ORIGINAL: djskillz

Well, in fairness (and don't take this as a slight because I've really grown to like the guy) Dozier's had a good couple weeks but he's not exactly tearing it up. His slash line is .191/.328/.468/.796.

He needs to really improve that average and OBP, and you gotta figure he will, while the power will come down some. But he's still a decent candidate to trade later this year, all dependent on how Rosario does starting in the middle of May. And the Sox do have a loaded system.



First, you have to believe Rosario will be at 2nd base. And that's not a guarantee,either. He saw plenty of innings in LF during Arizona Fall League.

There is no way they will trade him.

A: He's affordable(re: CHEAP)
B: He's under team control


Certainly. It's all on Rosario. But IF he rebounds after the suspension, one of those 2 guys is really our most tradeable chip. I honestly don't care which one at this point. I'm not nearly as high on Rosario as an OF'er (the bat just isn't as valuable) and we have so many other OF options going forward. We have a lack of MI options.



I'm sorry, but why are we trading the best infield prospect we've had in about a decade?

Perkins was the trade chip that got away if you ask me. A guy like Rosario is precisely the kind of player you hold onto. Especially given the infield situation we have had the last ten years



djskillz -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (4/14/2014 10:23:05 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

quote:

Certainly. It's all on Rosario. But IF he rebounds after the suspension, one of those 2 guys is really our most tradeable chip. I honestly don't care which one at this point. I'm not nearly as high on Rosario as an OF'er (the bat just isn't as valuable) and we have so many other OF options going forward. We have a lack of MI options.



So there's the issue. The Twins are already working Rosario to move out of 2B after 1 full season of trying it.

Dumb as ***


If that's the case, yes; idiots. It's short term thinking. Just because you now seemingly have a solid 2b doesn't mean you move another guy that can play 2b to the OF. You get a lot more trade value for a solid 2b than a solid OF.



djskillz -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (4/14/2014 10:24:21 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: ewen21

quote:

ORIGINAL: djskillz

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

quote:

ORIGINAL: djskillz

Well, in fairness (and don't take this as a slight because I've really grown to like the guy) Dozier's had a good couple weeks but he's not exactly tearing it up. His slash line is .191/.328/.468/.796.

He needs to really improve that average and OBP, and you gotta figure he will, while the power will come down some. But he's still a decent candidate to trade later this year, all dependent on how Rosario does starting in the middle of May. And the Sox do have a loaded system.



First, you have to believe Rosario will be at 2nd base. And that's not a guarantee,either. He saw plenty of innings in LF during Arizona Fall League.

There is no way they will trade him.

A: He's affordable(re: CHEAP)
B: He's under team control


Certainly. It's all on Rosario. But IF he rebounds after the suspension, one of those 2 guys is really our most tradeable chip. I honestly don't care which one at this point. I'm not nearly as high on Rosario as an OF'er (the bat just isn't as valuable) and we have so many other OF options going forward. We have a lack of MI options.



I'm sorry, but why are we trading the best infield prospect we've had in about a decade?

Perkins was the trade chip that got away if you ask me. A guy like Rosario is precisely the kind of player you hold onto. Especially given the infield situation we have had the last ten years


Don't disagree on Perkins.

On Rosario, what do you do? You have to trade one of him or Dozier IMO. They're both 2b and neither is a SS or has enough bat to play elsewhere if you ask me.

Rosario I've always been really high on, but at this point given his suspension coupled with Dozier's play, I'm okay dealing either one for the right return. Neither should be given away.



djskillz -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (4/14/2014 10:28:10 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: ewen21

quote:

ORIGINAL: djskillz

quote:

ORIGINAL: ewen21

And yet Dozier--a leadoff hitter with a .191 batting average--has more RBI than our resident superstar.

Dozier also has two game winning RBI this year:
http://www.sportingcharts.com/mlb/stats/player-game-winning-rbis/2014/

That equals Mauer's total for all of last season.

This is a fact. THat's all it is.


And?


It's a stand alone statement Dustin.

You can paint over it if you like, but the facts cannot be altered


And?



ewen21 -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (4/14/2014 10:31:23 AM)

It is too soon to make a decision. We don't technically have a problem as of today. Thus far Rosario has played no baseball this year.

If he makes a strong push when he comes back THEN you start the process. Frankly, I would trade Dozier in a heartbeat if Rosario rakes. Dozier is 27 and we're still wondering what he really is



Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (4/14/2014 10:32:32 AM)

Facing the possibility of losing Matt Moore to Tommy John surgery, Rays manager Joe Maddon offered his take on the recent rash of Tommy John surgeries in the game. Via the Associated Press:

"Sometimes you have to look underneath the surface and I tend to agree it has a lot to do with youth sports and travel teams and multiple travel teams and kids pitching to win when they're really young and throwing too many pitches. I think the more recent epidemic curiously might be tied to what they're doing before they even get here professionally."



djskillz -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (4/14/2014 10:34:43 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: ewen21

It is too soon to make a decision. We don't technically have a problem as of today. Thus far Rosario has played no baseball this year.

If he makes a strong push when he comes back THEN you start the process. Frankly, I would trade Dozier in a heartbeat if Rosario rakes. Dozier is 27 and we're still wondering what he really is


I'm more in that boat, but Dozier has at least made me consider the opposite. I still am high on Rosario. He just needs to stop getting "high" himself. [:D]



ewen21 -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (4/14/2014 10:34:48 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: djskillz

quote:

ORIGINAL: ewen21

quote:

ORIGINAL: djskillz

quote:

ORIGINAL: ewen21

And yet Dozier--a leadoff hitter with a .191 batting average--has more RBI than our resident superstar.

Dozier also has two game winning RBI this year:
http://www.sportingcharts.com/mlb/stats/player-game-winning-rbis/2014/

That equals Mauer's total for all of last season.

This is a fact. THat's all it is.


And?


It's a stand alone statement Dustin.

You can paint over it if you like, but the facts cannot be altered


And?


Someone is getting a little testy[&:]


The "and" part is up to you. If you have no actual comment then leave it alone.

As I said it was a stand alone statement. A little FYI



djskillz -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (4/14/2014 10:35:57 AM)

I think part of the problem, Ed, is that kids are playing way too much from an early age. These year round baseball groups are ridiculous IMO. Give the kids a break and let them try other things. You don't need to pen them into a specific sport with tons of usage from the age of 8/9. That's a travesty in sports today IMO.



djskillz -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (4/14/2014 10:36:49 AM)

I just don't think it means anything. And isn't relevant at all to the discussion; that was my point.



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