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ORIGINAL: CPAMAN

I think Cousins will get better and many will be praising his laurels come November. He had a bad game, but better now than the first week of December.

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: CPAMAN

I think Cousins will get better and many will be praising his laurels come November. He had a bad game, but better now than the first week of December.

No, no, no. He is the worst QB in football. He is only good enough to start for a mediocre team. His contract means the Vikings won't be able to keep half of their starters. They clearly should have kept Keenum because he would have thrived in our system.


Sorry, I have read too many posts in the Vikings thread.

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

He will never be an elite QB, but that doesn't he can't be a good one. I have a couple of issues with the common complaints about Cousins:

1. He can't beat winning teams. This statement looks at wins and losses in a vacuum that makes Cousins as the sole determining factor in wins and losses. To be fair, until last year, Cousins played for a really shitty organization that hasn't beaten many winning teams for years.

2. His contract will cause us to lose other key players. That didn't happen. We even added Sheldon Richardson after we signed Cousins. So, now that is turning to ... we couldn't afford to build a quality line because of his contract. The difference between Cousins and Keenum is about $9 million. Pure bullshit. What great FA O-line men did we miss out on?

3. Keenum was a gunslinger who would have thrived in Flip's offense. Keenum thrived for 1 year, not because of a system that allowed him to thrive, but because he made a shit load of stupid throws like the ones Cousins threw yesterday only to have Theilen and Diggs do an incredible job of out fighting multiple D-backs to make. Several of those throws, Keenum wasn't even looking. He just chucked it down field while he was being tackled. The horseshoe fell out of his ass in the second half against the Saints.

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ORIGINAL: MDK

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ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

You speaking from personal experience?

Hell no, I'm the biggest pansie in the US. I've met some dudes tho [:-]


That being said, I did grow up on a rural (small) farm and met dudes in the Army that made me laugh. When the crap hit the fan they were MIA. And, generally, they were East Coast dudes.

Sounds like you might have met some cowboys in Texas who rodeo.....those guys make NFL players seem like whimps. We have a bunch in South Dakota. Tough guys who have taken a licking or two in life from a live animal.

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

It's amazing how on the Vikes thread we went from week 1 being a flawless masterpiece of Zim coaching and offensive scheme and hey even Cousins completed 80% of his passes. This week, the sky is falling. We're back to Zim being a dinosaur who has been passed by the game he coaches, and Cousins is worse than Keenum and his contract is the reason we don't have an elite offensive line ... oh why oh why didn't we just resign Keenum.

Here is what is singularly frustrating about yesterday. The game was incredibly winnable. The Pukers showed, once again, that they aren't anywhere near their preseason hype. Frankly, they really aren't that good. Even spotting them 21 points, that was a shoulda won it game.

Here are how I saw the problems. This is just a numerical list. I don't mean this as a ranked order of problems.

1. Took way too long for Zim to adjust what Erin and the Pukers were doing. Game preparation was bad.
2. The kicking game bit us in the ass again.
3. The refs f***ed us again when that TD was overturned.
4. Diggs played with his head up ass, TD catch aside.
5. Cousins was terrible. That int in the end zone was one of the stupidest throws I have ever seen in my life. Ironically, the Keenum lovers are bashing Cousins for the throw, while forgetting Keenum's great season was built on butt blind luck attempting the same throws.
6. The line, especially Bradbury, continues to struggle with the pass block.

I'm with Jesser, Cousins was awful, but he was far from the only major issue in the result. I saw a lot of correctable things yesterday. I expect Bradbury and the O-line as a whole to improve the pass block. They have two new starters and a third guy who moved to a new position. It's going to time to get the line calls and the assignments right. The positive is that the run blocking has improved tremendously. The D made the adjustments and shut down precious little Erin for the final 40 minutes.

Get back to practice. Iron out the kinks. Beat the Raiders and the Vikes thread will turn back into the land of sunshine and lollipops.

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

He will never be an elite QB, but that doesn't he can't be a good one. I have a couple of issues with the common complaints about Cousins:

1. He can't beat winning teams. This statement looks at wins and losses in a vacuum that makes Cousins as the sole determining factor in wins and losses. To be fair, until last year, Cousins played for a really shitty organization that hasn't beaten many winning teams for years.

2. His contract will cause us to lose other key players. That didn't happen. We even added Sheldon Richardson after we signed Cousins. So, now that is turning to ... we couldn't afford to build a quality line because of his contract. The difference between Cousins and Keenum is about $9 million. Pure bullshit. What great FA O-line men did we miss out on?

3. Keenum was a gunslinger who would have thrived in Flip's offense. Keenum thrived for 1 year, not because of a system that allowed him to thrive, but because he made a shit load of stupid throws like the ones Cousins threw yesterday only to have Theilen and Diggs do an incredible job of out fighting multiple D-backs to make. Several of those throws, Keenum wasn't even looking. He just chucked it down field while he was being tackled. The horseshoe fell out of his ass in the second half against the Saints.

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ORIGINAL: McMurfy

Oh,
and Zimmer sucks.

He’s TK.
Too Old
Too Stubborn
Too out of touch.

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: McMurfy

Oh,
and Zimmer sucks.

He’s TK.
Too Old
Too Stubborn
Too out of touch.

So we got a couple SB wins coming up. [8|]

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ORIGINAL: ronhextall

I looked up how long it took each coach to win their first Super Bowl. Posted results on football board last season.

Let’s just say it happens early or not at all.

Speilman has been in charge a long time and needed the luckiest play in recent history to wins grand total of one playoff game.

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

Bill Belichick had a losing record as the head coach of Cleveland for five years before he got the Patriots job.

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

Carroll won the SB in his 4th year with the Hawks, Bill B in his 2nd with NE.

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

Carroll won the SB in his 4th year with the Hawks, Bill B in his 2nd with NE.

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

Carroll won the SB in his 4th year with the Hawks, Bill B in his 2nd with NE.

Bill B. won in is his 7th year as a head coach and was actually fired from his first head coaching gig. ronhextall's argument is that coaches win right away or not at all. Belichick shows a coach can fail miserably before he succeeds.