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SoMnFan -> RE: Former Twins News (8/1/2015 7:22:39 PM)

Cowbell has to be barely hanging on.
Danny Vee put up some decent numbers.
Its called having a deep, talent-rich roster.
With tons of offensive potential.




SoMnFan -> RE: Former Twins News (8/1/2015 10:57:41 PM)

Something had to give after Alex Anthopoulos placed second baseman Devon Travis on the disabled list and made trades to acquire relief pitcher Mark Lowe and left fielder Ben Revere. Four things had to happen: 1) the Blue Jays had to add a middle infielder to back up Ryan Goins and Troy Tulowitzki, 2) a reliever, probably a right-hander, had to go, 3) one of the players used in left field had to go, and 4) someone else had to go to get the roster down to 25.


The Blue Jays described the four things they did in one concise tweet this morning--and coincidentally in the same order that I listed above too!

The first three of the four moves are kind of easy to explain: 1) Munenori Kawasaki and Ty Kelly are the only 40-man roster guys who play middle infield and only Kawasaki has big league time, 2) Ryan Tepera was a righty and was one of four relievers with options (Aaron Loup is a lefty, the other three are good), and 3) Ezequiel Carrerra was obviously a dead man walking during yesterday's game.

So it comes down to the fourth move and the title question: why was Danny Valencia designated for assignment? First, it should be made clear that, unlike the majority of DFAs throughout the season, Valencia isn't being designated for a demotion. No players may be traded in the first 48 hours after the non-waiver trade deadline (more on that below) so Valencia had to be stashed somewhere for the weekend and the 10-day decision period of the designated list allows the Blue Jays to wait out the 48 hours without having to have him taking up a roster spot.

Another bit of clarification: the Blue Jays didn't need to clear a spot on the 40-man roster (they had 38 players on it) but they did need to clear someone on the 25-man roster. Here were the candidates to be removed from the 25-man roster:


•LF-1B Chris Colabello (R)
•OF-IF Danny Valencia (R)
•1B Justin Smoak (S)
•RP Aaron Loup (L)
•RP Bo Schultz (R)


Out of these five, Colabello, Loup, and Schultz have options. Schultz, despite lately allowing some deep fly balls, has been good and is known to be in John Gibbons' good books. And while Loup has not been effective the whole season, it wouldn't have made sense for the Jays to have gone down to just Brett Cecil as the only lefty in the bullpen. Lastly, with R.A. Dickey scheduled to make a start on short rest this Sunday, it's probably good for the club to go with an eight-man bullpen.

Now, turning to he batters. Justin Smoak has had a couple of bad games but he can hit from the left side and offers good defense at first base. He will stick for now but certainly doesn't have a guaranteed spot on this club.

That means the choice for Anthopoulos was between Colabello and Valencia. Colabello brings a slightly better bat, minor league options, and is not arbitration-eligible until 2017. Valencia is a versatile fielder and is able to back up Josh Donaldson at third, is just slightly worse with the bat, and has become somewhat of a dark horse fan favourite with his beautiful face and unbridled excitement about his teammates' achievements.


They are really similar, really. If no further moves are made going forward then general manager Minor Leaguer would've probably chosen to option Chris Colabello and leave Danny Valencia on the team to both hold assets and benefit from Valencia's versatile glove. But, actual general manager Alex Anthopoulos isn't done with roster moves yet, which makes me think that they have received some interest in Valencia, who is now on trade assignment waivers. Valencia could've been placed on waivers if he had remained on the roster, but then Colabello would not be available in Toronto until he sits out the requisite 10 days.

During his time on trade assignment waivers Valencia could be claimed by any team, but priority of claim goes in reverse winning percentage of all American League teams then reverse winning percentage of all National League teams. The numbers will change by Monday 4 pm, but it it is pretty safe to assume that the Athletics, Red Sox, and Mariners will be the top three in the priority list.

Claiming him through waivers would cost these teams $20,000, but since trade waivers are revocable the Blue Jays have a little bit of leverage in asking the claiming team for a little more than that, as they could always pull him back and put him through outright waivers, whose priority order is simply based on winning percentage and is league-agnostic.




Steve Lentz -> RE: Former Twins News (8/1/2015 11:51:42 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

Cowbell has to be barely hanging on.
Danny Vee put up some decent numbers.
Its called having a deep, talent-rich roster.
With tons of offensive potential.

Revere will be the key addition as they march to the playoffs.[;)]




SoMnFan -> RE: Former Twins News (8/1/2015 11:52:26 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Steve Lentz

quote:

ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

Cowbell has to be barely hanging on.
Danny Vee put up some decent numbers.
Its called having a deep, talent-rich roster.
With tons of offensive potential.

Revere will be the key addition as they march to the playoffs.[;)]

Exactly what I was thinkin. [:-]




SoMnFan -> RE: Former Twins News (8/1/2015 11:53:15 PM)

Man that '65 bunch looks olddddddd



uh-oh [:o]




JT2 -> RE: Former Twins News (8/2/2015 12:30:50 AM)

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ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

Man that '65 bunch looks olddddddd



uh-oh [:o]



I hear ya. I do a good job fooling myself, but some of those visual reminders of players I watched have a way of snapping me back to reality. Kinda' sucks.




SoMnFan -> RE: Former Twins News (8/4/2015 9:58:16 PM)

And ... for a little more salt .....

Wilson Ramos with another late GWer, drives in two to snap the Nats skid.




SoMnFan -> RE: Former Twins News (8/4/2015 10:43:35 PM)

I've always suspected this ... today I finally checked into it, and yep, its true.

From Alanis Morisettes song, Ironic

A traffic jam when you're already late
A no smoking sign on your cigarette break
It's like ten thousand spoons when all you need is a knife
It's meetin' the man of my dreams
And then meetin' his beautiful wife, umm
And isn't it ironic
Don't you think?
A little too ironic
And yeah, I really do think

It's like rain on your weddin' day
It's a free ride when you've already paid
It's that ol Red-Faced Fool Gardy,
Falling in love with Jason Bartlett, just five years too late
It's the good advice that you just didn't take
And who would've thought, it figures





Black 47 -> RE: Former Twins News (8/5/2015 3:16:32 AM)

[&:]

Life has a funny way of sneaking up on you.




Mr. Ed -> RE: Former Twins News (8/5/2015 5:47:39 AM)

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ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

I've always suspected this ... today I finally checked into it, and yep, its true.

From Alanis Morisettes song, Ironic

A traffic jam when you're already late
A no smoking sign on your cigarette break
It's like ten thousand spoons when all you need is a knife
It's meetin' the man of my dreams
And then meetin' his beautiful wife, umm
And isn't it ironic
Don't you think?
A little too ironic
And yeah, I really do think

It's like rain on your weddin' day
It's a free ride when you've already paid
It's that ol Red-Faced Fool Gardy,
Falling in love with Jason Bartlett, just five years too late
It's the good advice that you just didn't take
And who would've thought, it figures






No doubt.

Thanks for posting this.




Stacey King -> RE: Former Twins News (8/6/2015 6:07:01 PM)

Quite the day for Drew Butera...homer, strikeout, throwing error, passed ball




SoMnFan -> RE: Former Twins News (8/11/2015 9:17:57 PM)

Twins retired Harmons number 3 on this date in 1974.




sixthwi -> RE: Former Twins News (8/11/2015 9:20:25 PM)

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ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

Twins retired Harmons number 3 on this date in 1974.



Lazarus has risen. [;)]




SoMnFan -> RE: Former Twins News (8/13/2015 10:56:35 AM)

Twins retired Hrbeks #14 on this day in 1995.
Shoulda splashed it with beer and mustard.




Mr. Ed -> RE: Former Twins News (8/13/2015 11:19:44 AM)

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ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

Twins retired Hrbeks #14 on this day in 1995.
Shoulda splashed it with beer and mustard.

You see that pic

That's a few beers and who-knows-what else ago Herbie.




SoMnFan -> RE: Former Twins News (8/17/2015 1:52:55 PM)

My co-worker just spoke to Caleb Thielbar.
Called from El Paso. He is currently a Chihuahua!!!!
Bettin its a great uni. [:D]
The Padres AAA affiliate.
He's keeping a great attitude, is simply happy someone wants him.




Mr. Ed -> RE: Former Twins News (8/17/2015 7:02:21 PM)

Good for Thielbar


Val has his 4th HR since being traded to the A's

Man, did the stench of Gardy have a long reach, affecting numerous ball players.




SoMnFan -> RE: Former Twins News (8/17/2015 8:37:14 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

Good for Thielbar


Val has his 4th HR since being traded to the A's

Man, did the stench of Gardy have a long reach, affecting numerous ball players.

There's simply no denying it
He stunted many careers.




Stacey King -> RE: Former Twins News (8/18/2015 3:28:40 PM)

Red Sox make bullpen coach Dana Le Vangie the bench coach. AAA pitching coach Bob Kipper will be the bullpen coach




SoMnFan -> RE: Former Twins News (8/25/2015 10:12:04 AM)

Deano Chance pitched a no-hitter vs Cleveland on this day in 1967.




twinsfan -> RE: Former Twins News (8/25/2015 10:17:20 AM)

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ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

Deano Chance pitched a no-hitter vs Cleveland on this day in 1967.

Do you remember it?

I figure I'll stop with the old person jokes when I hit 40. Gettin' very close. [:@]




Trekgeekscott -> RE: Former Twins News (8/25/2015 12:08:29 PM)

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ORIGINAL: twinsfan

quote:

ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

Deano Chance pitched a no-hitter vs Cleveland on this day in 1967.

Do you remember it?

I figure I'll stop with the old person jokes when I hit 40. Gettin' very close. [:@]


It's cool to still go with old person jokes as long as the target is older than you...

Or you are brazen enough for self deprecating humor.

Just have to remember you can easily become the target of the same humor.




twinsfan -> RE: Former Twins News (8/25/2015 1:04:17 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

quote:

ORIGINAL: twinsfan

quote:

ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

Deano Chance pitched a no-hitter vs Cleveland on this day in 1967.

Do you remember it?

I figure I'll stop with the old person jokes when I hit 40. Gettin' very close. [:@]


It's cool to still go with old person jokes as long as the target is older than you...

Or you are brazen enough for self deprecating humor.

Just have to remember you can easily become the target of the same humor.

The great thing is there still aren't that many younger than I am. Somehow. Pete M has been the youngest poster here (or on the Strib) for 15 years.




SoMnFan -> RE: Former Twins News (8/25/2015 1:27:14 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: twinsfan

quote:

ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

Deano Chance pitched a no-hitter vs Cleveland on this day in 1967.

Do you remember it?

I figure I'll stop with the old person jokes when I hit 40. Gettin' very close. [:@]

Kinda.
I certainly remember Dean Chance.
Not so much his big games.
And it's ok .... I'm older than I thought I'd ever get, actually.
Hadn't planned on much past 2000
Every days gravy, brother. I'm 54, but I actually feel like I'm maybe 30 something. And act like I'm 12 some days.
S'all good, man.




MDK -> RE: Former Twins News (8/25/2015 1:52:58 PM)

Dean Chance.......best hitting pitcher of all time.




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