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Phil Riewer -> RE: Players and prospects III (7/1/2015 2:31:11 PM)

Star Tribune Sports ‏@StribSports 28m28 minutes ago
#MNTwins set to sign shortstop prospect Wander Javier for $4 million. @LaVelleNeal has details: http://strib.mn/1RSs0h6 #MiLB

http://www.startribune.com/twins-set-to-sign-dominican-shortstop-prospect-wander-javier-for-4-milliom/311264631/



Mr. Ed -> RE: Players and prospects III (7/1/2015 2:33:35 PM)

GCL Twins gave up 5 in the 8th, lost 10-8

Cabbage 2-5/R/4RBI, Molina 2-4/R?RBI, Palacios 2-3/2BB/2R/SB(1)/E(1), Blankenhorn 1-4/BB/2R, Gonzalez 1-4/R/RBI/SB(2)/E(1)


Del Rosario 4IP 6H/5R/4ER/BB/5K
Lujan IP H/2K
Poulson IP BB/K
Cordy IP BB/K
Condeelis 0-2 0IP 2/4R/3ER/2BB
Landa IP H/UER/3K/3-3 IRS



Phil Riewer -> RE: Players and prospects III (7/1/2015 2:34:57 PM)

Rochester Red Wings
‏@RocRedWings
Rochester scores three runs in the 5th to take a 6-3 lead. Oswaldo Arcia is now 3-for-3 with a homer, three RBI and two runs scored.



Phil Riewer -> RE: Players and prospects III (7/1/2015 3:05:55 PM)

Entering Wednesday, Hicks had one hit and one walk in 15 plate app.....



twinsfan -> RE: Players and prospects III (7/1/2015 3:19:53 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

Entering Wednesday, Hicks had one hit and one walk in 15 plate app.....

That's not much of a sample.



Black 47 -> RE: Players and prospects III (7/1/2015 3:24:28 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

Star Tribune Sports ‏@StribSports 28m28 minutes ago
#MNTwins set to sign shortstop prospect Wander Javier for $4 million. @LaVelleNeal has details: http://strib.mn/1RSs0h6 #MiLB

http://www.startribune.com/twins-set-to-sign-dominican-shortstop-prospect-wander-javier-for-4-milliom/311264631/

You like this signing, Phil? I wonder how this affects Gordon. Does Javier stick at SS?



Phil Riewer -> RE: Players and prospects III (7/1/2015 3:27:01 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Black 47

quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

Star Tribune Sports ‏@StribSports 28m28 minutes ago
#MNTwins set to sign shortstop prospect Wander Javier for $4 million. @LaVelleNeal has details: http://strib.mn/1RSs0h6 #MiLB

http://www.startribune.com/twins-set-to-sign-dominican-shortstop-prospect-wander-javier-for-4-milliom/311264631/

You like this signing, Phil? I wonder how this affects Gordon. Does Javier stick at SS?


I think he plays somewhere else it sounds....another big SS that can hit.



Mr. Ed -> RE: Players and prospects III (7/1/2015 3:27:08 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Black 47

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

Star Tribune Sports ‏@StribSports 28m28 minutes ago
#MNTwins set to sign shortstop prospect Wander Javier for $4 million. @LaVelleNeal has details: http://strib.mn/1RSs0h6 #MiLB

http://www.startribune.com/twins-set-to-sign-dominican-shortstop-prospect-wander-javier-for-4-milliom/311264631/

You like this signing, Phil? I wonder how this affects Gordon. Does Javier stick at SS?



He's 16. Plenty of time to figure that one out.



Phil Riewer -> RE: Players and prospects III (7/1/2015 3:28:24 PM)

I don't think it is as big as the Sano signing (everyone was raving about him)...but we will see. I am most impressed with the Twins International scouts.

Danny Santana, Polanco, Arcia, Vargas, Sano, Kepler....International guys have produced more than the regular amateur drafts.



Black 47 -> RE: Players and prospects III (7/1/2015 3:28:46 PM)

Geez, didn't realize he was 16. My oldest child is 16. Just a baby. Crazy teams are signing kids this young!



Mr. Ed -> RE: Players and prospects III (7/1/2015 3:39:56 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

I don't think it is as big as the Sano signing (everyone was raving about him)...but we will see. I am most impressed with the Twins International scouts.

Danny Santana, Polanco, Arcia, Vargas, Sano, Kepler....International guys have produced more than the regular amateur drafts.



THIS

Drafting has

Buxton
Berrios
Rosario



Phil Riewer -> RE: Players and prospects III (7/1/2015 4:04:32 PM)

Mark Lehman ‏@MarkLMN 5m5 minutes ago
@ChattLookouts @AlexBerg22 Sano isn't in the starting lineup!



djskillz -> RE: Players and prospects III (7/1/2015 4:08:25 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

I don't think it is as big as the Sano signing (everyone was raving about him)...but we will see. I am most impressed with the Twins International scouts.

Danny Santana, Polanco, Arcia, Vargas, Sano, Kepler....International guys have produced more than the regular amateur drafts.


Again, Phil, I'm not sure this is really true. There are about 25-30 signings of each category each year. The signings have the guys above, plus Thorpe. But the draft has Buxton/Rosario/Berrios/Stewart/Gordon/Gonsalves/Jones, etc. IMO they're about even. If you rank them in terms of tradeability, you probably rank them something like:

Buxton-Draft
Berrios-Draft
Sano-Signing
Kepler-Signing
Rosario-Draft
Arcia-Signing
Stewart-Draft
Gordon-Draft
Polanco-Signing
Santana-Signing
Vargas-Signing
Gonsalves-Draft
Jones-Draft

Javier has a decent chance to stick at SS, much better than Sano's chances at at least.



Phil Riewer -> RE: Players and prospects III (7/1/2015 4:16:49 PM)

Rhett BollingerVerified account
‏@RhettBollinger
Just heard from a well-placed source that Miguel Sano will be getting the call up to the Twins.



Phil Riewer -> RE: Players and prospects III (7/1/2015 4:18:28 PM)

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ORIGINAL: djskillz

quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

I don't think it is as big as the Sano signing (everyone was raving about him)...but we will see. I am most impressed with the Twins International scouts.

Danny Santana, Polanco, Arcia, Vargas, Sano, Kepler....International guys have produced more than the regular amateur drafts.


Again, Phil, I'm not sure this is really true. There are about 25-30 signings of each category each year. The signings have the guys above, plus Thorpe. But the draft has Buxton/Rosario/Berrios/Stewart/Gordon/Gonsalves/Jones, etc. IMO they're about even. If you rank them in terms of tradeability, you probably rank them something like:

Buxton-Draft
Berrios-Draft
Sano-Signing
Kepler-Signing
Rosario-Draft
Arcia-Signing
Stewart-Draft
Gordon-Draft
Polanco-Signing
Santana-Signing
Vargas-Signing
Gonsalves-Draft
Jones-Draft

Javier has a decent chance to stick at SS, much better than Sano's chances at at least.


They draft what 40-50 guys in the Amateur portion and sign about 10 in the Int portion each year. I think we know who has had more success....just look at the Twins.

I forgot Pinto too.



Mr. Ed -> RE: Players and prospects III (7/1/2015 4:19:18 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

Mark Lehman ‏@MarkLMN 5m5 minutes ago
@ChattLookouts @AlexBerg22 Sano isn't in the starting lineup!


There you go.

Matt enjoy Sano in KC.

Can he play the OF? [:D]

What SHOULD have already been done:

Sano getting a few OF and first base games.

But, no, 3rd, which he's a near butcher at, and DH.

Sigh



Phil Riewer -> RE: Players and prospects III (7/1/2015 4:20:12 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

I don't think it is as big as the Sano signing (everyone was raving about him)...but we will see. I am most impressed with the Twins International scouts.

Danny Santana, Polanco, Arcia, Vargas, Sano, Kepler....International guys have produced more than the regular amateur drafts.



THIS

Drafting has

Buxton
Berrios
Rosario


Ed I forgot Pinto too...



Mr. Ed -> RE: Players and prospects III (7/1/2015 4:20:35 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

Rhett BollingerVerified account
‏@RhettBollinger
Just heard from a well-placed source that Miguel Sano will be getting the call up to the Twins.



I would hope he has a well-placed source.He works for MLB.com

Basically, the Twins.



Mr. Ed -> RE: Players and prospects III (7/1/2015 4:21:02 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

I don't think it is as big as the Sano signing (everyone was raving about him)...but we will see. I am most impressed with the Twins International scouts.

Danny Santana, Polanco, Arcia, Vargas, Sano, Kepler....International guys have produced more than the regular amateur drafts.



THIS

Drafting has

Buxton
Berrios
Rosario


Ed I forgot Pinto too...



And Ramos



Phil Riewer -> RE: Players and prospects III (7/1/2015 4:22:26 PM)

Ramos, Pinto, Santana, Polanco, Arcia, Vargas, Sano, Kepler----



djskillz -> RE: Players and prospects III (7/1/2015 4:23:18 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

quote:

ORIGINAL: djskillz

quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

I don't think it is as big as the Sano signing (everyone was raving about him)...but we will see. I am most impressed with the Twins International scouts.

Danny Santana, Polanco, Arcia, Vargas, Sano, Kepler....International guys have produced more than the regular amateur drafts.


Again, Phil, I'm not sure this is really true. There are about 25-30 signings of each category each year. The signings have the guys above, plus Thorpe. But the draft has Buxton/Rosario/Berrios/Stewart/Gordon/Gonsalves/Jones, etc. IMO they're about even. If you rank them in terms of tradeability, you probably rank them something like:

Buxton-Draft
Berrios-Draft
Sano-Signing
Kepler-Signing
Rosario-Draft
Arcia-Signing
Stewart-Draft
Gordon-Draft
Polanco-Signing
Santana-Signing
Vargas-Signing
Gonsalves-Draft
Jones-Draft

Javier has a decent chance to stick at SS, much better than Sano's chances at at least.


They draft what 40-50 guys in the Amateur portion and sign about 10 in the Int portion each year. I think we know who has had more success....just look at the Twins.

I forgot Pinto too.


No. This is where your numbers are off. They sign about 25-30 out of the international pool every year. Every team does. And most teams sign about 20-25 of their draft picks. So the numbers are the same. That's what I've been trying to tell you for a couple years now on that.



Phil Riewer -> RE: Players and prospects III (7/1/2015 4:24:41 PM)

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ORIGINAL: djskillz

quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

quote:

ORIGINAL: djskillz

quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

I don't think it is as big as the Sano signing (everyone was raving about him)...but we will see. I am most impressed with the Twins International scouts.

Danny Santana, Polanco, Arcia, Vargas, Sano, Kepler....International guys have produced more than the regular amateur drafts.


Again, Phil, I'm not sure this is really true. There are about 25-30 signings of each category each year. The signings have the guys above, plus Thorpe. But the draft has Buxton/Rosario/Berrios/Stewart/Gordon/Gonsalves/Jones, etc. IMO they're about even. If you rank them in terms of tradeability, you probably rank them something like:

Buxton-Draft
Berrios-Draft
Sano-Signing
Kepler-Signing
Rosario-Draft
Arcia-Signing
Stewart-Draft
Gordon-Draft
Polanco-Signing
Santana-Signing
Vargas-Signing
Gonsalves-Draft
Jones-Draft

Javier has a decent chance to stick at SS, much better than Sano's chances at at least.


They draft what 40-50 guys in the Amateur portion and sign about 10 in the Int portion each year. I think we know who has had more success....just look at the Twins.

I forgot Pinto too.


No. This is where your numbers are off. They sign about 25-30 out of the international pool every year. Every team does. And most teams sign about 20-25 of their draft picks. So the numbers are the same. That's what I've been trying to tell you for a couple years now on that.


They have 4 Million dollars and are using all of it on this one player this year unless they trade for more pool money.......how is that 20-25 players?



djskillz -> RE: Players and prospects III (7/1/2015 4:27:34 PM)

1) That won't be the case. They'll sign other guys.
2) We're talking about the past. They've been signing about 20-25 international guys per year for a long time now. Like just about every other organization. You just don't hear about anyone but the "big" ones, just like you don't hear about guys past the 10th rd of the draft or so...because no one cares.

I'm not saying we haven't had success in international pool signings (we have) but the numbers are not really skewed in its favor vs. the draft as an overall percentage.



Phil Riewer -> RE: Players and prospects III (7/1/2015 4:31:30 PM)

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ORIGINAL: djskillz

1) That won't be the case. They'll sign other guys.
2) We're talking about the past. They've been signing about 20-25 international guys per year for a long time now. Like just about every other organization. You just don't hear about anyone but the "big" ones, just like you don't hear about guys past the 10th rd of the draft or so...because no one cares.


Even if that is the case...look at the talent.

The Twins are allowed $10 million pool for signing the top 10 rounds of the amateur draft.....$4 million pool total for the Int Signings.....who is doing a better job with that much less money??????



Mr. Ed -> RE: Players and prospects III (7/1/2015 4:34:04 PM)

Roch led by Arcia and Hicks in 8-4 win

Arcia 4-5/Solo HR(2)/2R/3RBI, Hicks 3-5/2R,Rodriguez 2-5/double/2R/2RBI, Diaz 2-5/double/2R/E(4), Beresford 2-5

Dean 6-7 5.1IP 5H/3R/2ER/3BB/3K
CJohnson 2IP 0-1 IRS BB/K
O'Rourke .2IP 0-1 IRS BB/2K
Hamburger IP 3H/R



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