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RE: Gopher Wrestling - 6/18/2019 3:08:16 PM   
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Good points Sweens. 38% of people don't care who you've molested if you're running for president.

That is right Biden just got accused of that as did some of Bernie's staffers....good point.

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RE: Gopher Wrestling - 6/18/2019 5:25:34 PM   
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Both of them have been released without charges being filed. The police are continuing the investigation.

Hopefully they are not guilty of anything. This is terrible.

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RE: Gopher Wrestling - 6/19/2019 8:26:11 AM   
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Good points Sweens. 38% of people don't care who you've molested if you're running for president.

That is right Biden just got accused of that as did some of Bernie's staffers....good point.


The biggest difference was that your guy actually BRAGGED about molesting women. You have to admit that's some sick shit, and pretty sick for the people who voted for him, even though they are, indeed, a minority.

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RE: Gopher Wrestling - 6/19/2019 11:21:48 AM   
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Just in: No charges against two @GopherSports wrestlers.

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RE: Gopher Wrestling - 6/19/2019 11:23:32 AM   
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Good points Sweens. 38% of people don't care who you've molested if you're running for president.

That is right Biden just got accused of that as did some of Bernie's staffers....good point.


The biggest difference was that your guy actually BRAGGED about molesting women. You have to admit that's some sick shit, and pretty sick for the people who voted for him, even though they are, indeed, a minority.


No difference at all between Biden, Trump, Bernie's Staffers, and Clinton.....you just choose your party line. I could say the same about you backing them but I choose not to nor do I need to use swear words at that to get my point across even if you believe in a different party. But continue on.

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RE: Gopher Wrestling - 6/19/2019 11:26:35 AM   
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Good points Sweens. 38% of people don't care who you've molested if you're running for president.

That is right Biden just got accused of that as did some of Bernie's staffers....good point.


The biggest difference was that your guy actually BRAGGED about molesting women. You have to admit that's some sick shit, and pretty sick for the people who voted for him, even though they are, indeed, a minority.


No difference at all between Biden, Trump, Bernie's Staffers, and Clinton.....you just choose your party line. I could say the same about you backing them.


Actually there is a huge difference between a hug and pussy grabbing, sexually harassing Miss USA and Miss Universe contestants including walking through the dressing rooms when they are undressed, etc.

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RE: Gopher Wrestling - 6/19/2019 11:29:33 AM   
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Good points Sweens. 38% of people don't care who you've molested if you're running for president.

That is right Biden just got accused of that as did some of Bernie's staffers....good point.


The biggest difference was that your guy actually BRAGGED about molesting women. You have to admit that's some sick shit, and pretty sick for the people who voted for him, even though they are, indeed, a minority.


No difference at all between Biden, Trump, Bernie's Staffers, and Clinton.....you just choose your party line. I could say the same about you backing them.


Actually there is a huge difference between a hug and pussy grabbing, sexually harassing Miss USA and Miss Universe contestants including walking through the dressing rooms when they are undressed, etc.


And again sexual harrasment by Biden, Bernie's staffers, and Clinton has been posted by you how many times? Backing your party line. Conveniently, you choose to address it only when it involves the other party....

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RE: Gopher Wrestling - 6/19/2019 11:37:46 AM   
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1. Even the women who talked about there experiences with Biden, clearly stated that they did not consider his conduct to be a sexual advance in any way. None of these women defined it as sexual harassment.

2. I didn't mention anybody until you made the ridiculous claim that all of the incidents involving all parties were the same thing.

3. This is typical of the Trumpian deflection strategy to take the focus off what a misogynistic piece of shit Trump is.

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RE: Gopher Wrestling - 6/19/2019 11:47:43 AM   
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1. Even the women who talked about there experiences with Biden, clearly stated that they did not consider his conduct to be a sexual advance in any way. None of these women defined it as sexual harassment.

2. I didn't mention anybody until you made the ridiculous claim that all of the incidents involving all parties were the same thing.

3. This is typical of the Trumpian deflection strategy to take the focus off what a misogynistic piece of shit Trump is.


Democrats ignoring their own=Trumpian Deflection. Ok...as long as we define it. No one loves that about Trump...but lets make the claim that all Democrats are saints and call all Republicans names. I thought we are all human beings here but apparently not.

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RE: Gopher Wrestling - 6/19/2019 11:52:59 AM   
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1. Even the women who talked about there experiences with Biden, clearly stated that they did not consider his conduct to be a sexual advance in any way. None of these women defined it as sexual harassment.

2. I didn't mention anybody until you made the ridiculous claim that all of the incidents involving all parties were the same thing.

3. This is typical of the Trumpian deflection strategy to take the focus off what a misogynistic piece of shit Trump is.


Democrats ignoring their own=Trumpian Deflection. Ok...as long as we define it. No one loves that about Trump...but lets make the claim that all Democrats are saints and call all Republicans names. I thought we are all human beings here but apparently not.


I could on with this all day Phil, but since you see the world through Trump colored glasses, I have a better chance of having rational discussion with a tree stump.

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RE: Gopher Wrestling - 6/19/2019 12:33:51 PM   
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1. Even the women who talked about there experiences with Biden, clearly stated that they did not consider his conduct to be a sexual advance in any way. None of these women defined it as sexual harassment.

2. I didn't mention anybody until you made the ridiculous claim that all of the incidents involving all parties were the same thing.

3. This is typical of the Trumpian deflection strategy to take the focus off what a misogynistic piece of shit Trump is.


Democrats ignoring their own=Trumpian Deflection. Ok...as long as we define it. No one loves that about Trump...but lets make the claim that all Democrats are saints and call all Republicans names. I thought we are all human beings here but apparently not.


I could on with this all day Phil, but since you see the world through Trump colored glasses, I have a better chance of having rational discussion with a tree stump.


Did you read Lynn's first post? Lets see: calling the president names and calling the other party names as the gold standard of your so called rational party? & then there is the tree stump comment you just used.

I think it may be time to read what rational is in the dictionary again. Remember if you want to have any kind of discussion outside of just your own party first hold off on the name calling.

The worst thing I have ever called the last two Democratic Presidents is Slick Willy and all those self proclaimed rational Dems called him that all the time.....

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RE: Gopher Wrestling - 6/19/2019 2:11:04 PM   
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One of the most overused expressions in political discussions is the "both sides do it" thing. As if every mis-step or infraction carries equal weight just because it is a mis-step or infraction.

Yep - Bill Clinton had extramarital affairs and paid a big price for it. They began impeachment hearings to nail him for Whitewater, but when they couldn't find anything on that they switched to his sexual proclivities. Fair enough and not only did he get impeached, he was criticized up and down both sides of the aisle and 30 years later is still labeled as a cheater.

But even pretending to compare what Trump has done to what Biden has done is beyond absurd. On the one side is a guy who is a serial adulterer, who cheated on all three wives, virtually abandoned his children, paid off hookers to keep them quiet, bragged about sexually abusing women, and regularly disparages women in his words and deeds.

On the other side is a guy who was faithful to his first wife who died in a car crash, adores his second wife and by all accounts is wonderful husband and father, but who gives too many hugs and gets into people's personal spaces.

Just quit with the conflation of these two men. I have said multiple times that I would NEVER leave my granddaughters in the same room with Donald Trump, but I would have no qualms about that with Joe Biden. There is no comparison.

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RE: Gopher Wrestling - 6/19/2019 2:17:11 PM   
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One of the most overused expressions in political discussions is the "both sides do it" thing. As if every mis-step or infraction carries equal weight just because it is a mis-step or infraction.

Yep - Bill Clinton had extramarital affairs and paid a big price for it. They began impeachment hearings to nail him for Whitewater, but when they couldn't find anything on that they switched to his sexual proclivities. Fair enough and not only did he get impeached, he was criticized up and down both sides of the aisle and 30 years later is still labeled as a cheater.

But even pretending to compare what Trump has done to what Biden has done is beyond absurd. On the one side is a guy who is a serial adulterer, who cheated on all three wives, virtually abandoned his children, paid off hookers to keep them quiet, bragged about sexually abusing women, and regularly disparages women in his words and deeds.

On the other side is a guy who was faithful to his first wife who died in a car crash, adores his second wife and by all accounts is wonderful husband and father, but who gives too many hugs and gets into people's personal spaces.

Just quit with the conflation of these two men. I have said multiple times that I would NEVER leave my granddaughters in the same room with Donald Trump, but I would have no qualms about that with Joe Biden. There is no comparison.


You're shouting into a hurricane Lynn. It's in the first chapter of the Trumpian hand book. Create a false equivalency, no matter how absurd, and beat that drum for all it's worth.

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RE: Gopher Wrestling - 6/19/2019 2:51:51 PM   
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One of the most overused expressions in political discussions is the "both sides do it" thing. As if every mis-step or infraction carries equal weight just because it is a mis-step or infraction.

Yep - Bill Clinton had extramarital affairs and paid a big price for it. They began impeachment hearings to nail him for Whitewater, but when they couldn't find anything on that they switched to his sexual proclivities. Fair enough and not only did he get impeached, he was criticized up and down both sides of the aisle and 30 years later is still labeled as a cheater.

But even pretending to compare what Trump has done to what Biden has done is beyond absurd. On the one side is a guy who is a serial adulterer, who cheated on all three wives, virtually abandoned his children, paid off hookers to keep them quiet, bragged about sexually abusing women, and regularly disparages women in his words and deeds.

On the other side is a guy who was faithful to his first wife who died in a car crash, adores his second wife and by all accounts is wonderful husband and father, but who gives too many hugs and gets into people's personal spaces.

Just quit with the conflation of these two men. I have said multiple times that I would NEVER leave my granddaughters in the same room with Donald Trump, but I would have no qualms about that with Joe Biden. There is no comparison.


You're shouting into a hurricane Lynn. It's in the first chapter of the Trumpian hand book. Create a false equivalency, no matter how absurd, and beat that drum for all it's worth.


Again, reread Lynn's first post on the Gopher's Thread and tell me who has been civil and rational and who hasn't. Again this is the Gopher Wrestling Thread and right away what was Lynn's first response even though neither wrestler has been charged but held.

Take your Unjustified, Rational, and Civil Democrat Party bullshit to the other thread. Thank You.

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RE: Gopher Wrestling - 6/19/2019 2:56:11 PM   
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One of the most overused expressions in political discussions is the "both sides do it" thing. As if every mis-step or infraction carries equal weight just because it is a mis-step or infraction.

Yep - Bill Clinton had extramarital affairs and paid a big price for it. They began impeachment hearings to nail him for Whitewater, but when they couldn't find anything on that they switched to his sexual proclivities. Fair enough and not only did he get impeached, he was criticized up and down both sides of the aisle and 30 years later is still labeled as a cheater.

But even pretending to compare what Trump has done to what Biden has done is beyond absurd. On the one side is a guy who is a serial adulterer, who cheated on all three wives, virtually abandoned his children, paid off hookers to keep them quiet, bragged about sexually abusing women, and regularly disparages women in his words and deeds.

On the other side is a guy who was faithful to his first wife who died in a car crash, adores his second wife and by all accounts is wonderful husband and father, but who gives too many hugs and gets into people's personal spaces.

Just quit with the conflation of these two men. I have said multiple times that I would NEVER leave my granddaughters in the same room with Donald Trump, but I would have no qualms about that with Joe Biden. There is no comparison.


You're shouting into a hurricane Lynn. It's in the first chapter of the Trumpian hand book. Create a false equivalency, no matter how absurd, and beat that drum for all it's worth.


Again, reread Lynn's first post on the Gopher's Thread and tell me who has been civil and rational and who hasn't. Again this is the Gopher Wrestling Thread and right away what was Lynn's first response even though neither wrestler has been charged but held.

Take your Unjustified, Rational, and Civil Democrat Party bullshit to the other thread. Thank You.


I'll take my sane progressive, non alt right philosophy to any thread I please. You are entitled to peddle your ignorant tripe where ever you want as well.

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RE: Gopher Wrestling - 6/19/2019 2:59:07 PM   
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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: Lynn G.

One of the most overused expressions in political discussions is the "both sides do it" thing. As if every mis-step or infraction carries equal weight just because it is a mis-step or infraction.

Yep - Bill Clinton had extramarital affairs and paid a big price for it. They began impeachment hearings to nail him for Whitewater, but when they couldn't find anything on that they switched to his sexual proclivities. Fair enough and not only did he get impeached, he was criticized up and down both sides of the aisle and 30 years later is still labeled as a cheater.

But even pretending to compare what Trump has done to what Biden has done is beyond absurd. On the one side is a guy who is a serial adulterer, who cheated on all three wives, virtually abandoned his children, paid off hookers to keep them quiet, bragged about sexually abusing women, and regularly disparages women in his words and deeds.

On the other side is a guy who was faithful to his first wife who died in a car crash, adores his second wife and by all accounts is wonderful husband and father, but who gives too many hugs and gets into people's personal spaces.

Just quit with the conflation of these two men. I have said multiple times that I would NEVER leave my granddaughters in the same room with Donald Trump, but I would have no qualms about that with Joe Biden. There is no comparison.


You're shouting into a hurricane Lynn. It's in the first chapter of the Trumpian hand book. Create a false equivalency, no matter how absurd, and beat that drum for all it's worth.


Again, reread Lynn's first post on the Gopher's Thread and tell me who has been civil and rational and who hasn't. Again this is the Gopher Wrestling Thread and right away what was Lynn's first response even though neither wrestler has been charged but held.

Take your Unjustified, Rational, and Civil Democrat Party bullshit to the other thread. Thank You.


I'll take my sane progressive, non alt right philosophy to any thread I please. You are entitled to peddle your ignorant tripe where ever you want as well.


Again, take it where you want but don't call yourself civil or rational and then accuse someone that was only held of being anything but innocent until proven guilty.....seems racist to boot. Feel free to reread Lynn's original response.

Peddle...I haven't peddled anything but to call out this crap on this thread....again using big words but just name calling underneath it all. I respect you philosphy and stance....can't say the same about the name calling. Makes any point you are trying to make worthless.

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RE: Gopher Wrestling - 6/19/2019 3:07:34 PM   
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Oh and by the way....

I will repost:

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Just in: No charges against two @GopherSports wrestlers.

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RE: Gopher Wrestling - 6/19/2019 3:07:48 PM   
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OK, here is Lynn's original post. Please feel free to point out where she proclaimed them guilty or where the racist tone is.

"I have no idea if these two young men are guilty of anything - but just as a general statement: As many high profile figures throughout the entertainment/political/sports industries who have been charged and jailed for these types of crimes - how thick headed do men still have to be to commit a crime that gets them into that much trouble? I know they tend to be led around by one specific body part, but if you can't find a willing partner - pay for it, or you and your families will be paying for it for the rest of your life."

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RE: Gopher Wrestling - 6/19/2019 3:09:19 PM   
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Peddle...I haven't peddled anything but to call out this crap on this thread....again using big words but just name calling underneath it all. I respect you philosphy and stance....can't say the same about the name calling. Makes any point you are trying to make worthless.



This part is hysterical. You just described your boy Donny to a tee.

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RE: Gopher Wrestling - 6/19/2019 3:22:17 PM   
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Peddle...I haven't peddled anything but to call out this crap on this thread....again using big words but just name calling underneath it all. I respect you philosphy and stance....can't say the same about the name calling. Makes any point you are trying to make worthless.

This part is hysterical. You just described your boy Donny to a tee.

Yet he uses the Democrat's biggest weapon against them and they continue to take the bait. Yep so hysterical and everyone hates it but you take his bait and resort to name calling on a sports thread.

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RE: Gopher Wrestling - 6/19/2019 4:39:36 PM   
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Peddle...I haven't peddled anything but to call out this crap on this thread....again using big words but just name calling underneath it all. I respect you philosphy and stance....can't say the same about the name calling. Makes any point you are trying to make worthless.

This part is hysterical. You just described your boy Donny to a tee.

Yet he uses the Democrat's biggest weapon against them and they continue to take the bait. Yep so hysterical and everyone hates it but you take his bait and resort to name calling on a sports thread.


Nicely deflected. Donny would be proud.

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RE: Gopher Wrestling - 11/26/2019 12:16:24 PM   
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Does anybody know why Gable Steveson is not wrestling for the Gophers at this time. I have tried searching Google and can find nothing. There was some sexual allegation regarding him a while ago, but I thought he was completely cleared of that.

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RE: Gopher Wrestling - 11/26/2019 12:27:17 PM   
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Still being investigated by Hennepin county and remains suspended from Gophers until it is resolved. In the mean time, he has qualified for the 2020 U.S. Olympic trials.

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RE: Gopher Wrestling - 11/28/2019 6:38:46 PM   
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Still being investigated by Hennepin county and remains suspended from Gophers until it is resolved. In the mean time, he has qualified for the 2020 U.S. Olympic trials.

Thanks. If this situation goes south on the Gophers the wrestling program may never recover.

In a possibly related story former Simley High School and #1 recruit in the country Greg Kerkvliet is transferring away from Ohio State.

Former No. 1 wrestling recruit Greg Kerkvliet to transfer from Ohio State

Phil Harrison
November 1, 2019
The Ohio State wrestling team may have lost a big piece of its future.
According to a report from Eleven Warriors, former No. 1 overall recruit Greg Kerkvliet has entered the transfer portal and will look to move on from the program. It is not known which direction he is leaning, but it was confirmed to the Ohio State fan site earlier Friday. He has yet to even step onto the mat in Columbus.

This is a decent blow for a program that’s still reeling from former Buckeye heavyweight, Olympic, and World Champion Kyle Snyder’s decision to move his training to Happy Valley. In fact, the two decisions may be linked. It was widely considered a selling factor for Kerkvliet when he changed his commitment from his home state University of Minnesota, to Oklahoma State to Ohio State.


These are certainly not the types of things the program wants to be dealing with. Not only has it opened some of the best facilities in the world as of late, it’s also set to open the season in East Lansing for the Michigan State Open Saturday.
If anymore news becomes available with this story, we’ll be on top of it.


This was nearly a month ago, but I haven't found an update.

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RE: Gopher Wrestling - 11/30/2019 2:13:16 PM   
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Since Husky Hockey is a lost cause now I will bring up Husky Wrestling. Every bit as dominant as Penn State wrestling in their division 2. 4 titles and one runner up in the last 5 years. 4titles and 4 runners up in the last ten. Started the season ranked #2 because the rankers were tired of ranking them #1. So they beat that #1 ranked Pitt Johnstown team 31-6 to start the season and ranked #1 again.

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