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ORIGINAL: CPAMAN

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

Yep my bad.

The problem with the Defense is that it is aging in spots.....Rhodes, Joseph, and to a lesser extent Smith. This isn't a scheme issue.

Worse, the age spots are where the money is invested. Invest in players in long-term contracts and you eventually get little return on your investment.

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Rob Viking

Tough loss, but at least it was on the road vs a non conference opponent.

The game completely turned on the questionable ineligible downfield call on Bradbury. took away a nice gain to their 27 and totally derailed a promising drive up 6. A few plays later Williams goes for 91.

Harrison is usually the fixer but he and Harris were terrible on the 91 yard run.

What are the odds Matt Moore gets stripped and literally belly flops onto the ball, in hindsight Harrison should have thrown him aside and allowed one of the other defenders to pick up the ball. Zim called the perfect blitz there.

I still don't know how the Chiefs get ball at their own 44 after the Weatherly strip. Williams picks it up and winds up at his own 39. Guessing they blew it dead from where the fumble happened. Really unfortunate the boys couldn't recover 2 crucial fumbles like that. Had it been 2nd & 26 see would see a different call from Reid. No excuse, but I can't really blame Mac it was a perfect throw and catch.

Thielen was a big loss today, there were opening that he would have easily exploited today.

The run game was a disappointment, it was a strange game as far as game script went. A couple of TFL at crucial points and some crucial 3rd down early like the Abdullah one and Kirk sliding too early hurt.

Very winnable game.

Those calls are like holding calls. Plenty of them to call but refs only pick out certain ones. It's like they have a scouting report on teams and players and they(refs) have to meet their quotas.

I swore I watched us run another screen later in the game and Bradbury was even further down field. No call.

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Rob Viking

Tough loss, but at least it was on the road vs a non conference opponent.

The game completely turned on the questionable ineligible downfield call on Bradbury. took away a nice gain to their 27 and totally derailed a promising drive up 6. A few plays later Williams goes for 91.

Harrison is usually the fixer but he and Harris were terrible on the 91 yard run.

What are the odds Matt Moore gets stripped and literally belly flops onto the ball, in hindsight Harrison should have thrown him aside and allowed one of the other defenders to pick up the ball. Zim called the perfect blitz there.

I still don't know how the Chiefs get ball at their own 44 after the Weatherly strip. Williams picks it up and winds up at his own 39. Guessing they blew it dead from where the fumble happened. Really unfortunate the boys couldn't recover 2 crucial fumbles like that. Had it been 2nd & 26 see would see a different call from Reid. No excuse, but I can't really blame Mac it was a perfect throw and catch.

Thielen was a big loss today, there were opening that he would have easily exploited today.

The run game was a disappointment, it was a strange game as far as game script went. A couple of TFL at crucial points and some crucial 3rd down early like the Abdullah one and Kirk sliding too early hurt.

Very winnable game.

Those calls are like holding calls. Plenty of them to call but refs only pick out certain ones. It's like they have a scouting report on teams and players and they(refs) have to meet their quotas.

I swore I watched us run another screen later in the game and Bradbury was even further down field. No call.

He wasn't even downfield when the ball was released; the Fox ref said it was a blown call. It wasn't the reason we lost, but I agree with Rob that it was a crucial turning point.

That said, I agree with your premise that refs are occasionally anticipating penalties/non-penalties (balls/strikes) in all sports. It's the driver behind star calls, especially in the NBA.

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

Not a shock.

Mike Kaye@mike_e_kaye
The #Eagles have waived S Andrew Sendejo.

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

Not a shock.

Mike Kaye@mike_e_kaye
The #Eagles have waived S Andrew Sendejo.

Why do I have this dread feeling he will be in our starting lineup within 2 weeks?

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: CPAMAN

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

Yep my bad.

The problem with the Defense is that it is aging in spots.....Rhodes, Joseph, and to a lesser extent Smith. This isn't a scheme issue.

Worse, the age spots are where the money is invested. Invest in players in long-term contracts and you eventually get little return on your investment.

The good news is that all three of them are highly movable next season although I sure wouldn't do anything with Smith. Linval has only $2.4 million in dead cap nest season and Rhodes is $4.8 million. Smith is only $2 million but again I wouldn't move him for anything - he's an incredible value.

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ORIGINAL: odin

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: CPAMAN

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

Yep my bad.

The problem with the Defense is that it is aging in spots.....Rhodes, Joseph, and to a lesser extent Smith. This isn't a scheme issue.

Worse, the age spots are where the money is invested. Invest in players in long-term contracts and you eventually get little return on your investment.

The good news is that all three of them are highly movable next season although I sure wouldn't do anything with Smith. Linval has only $2.4 million in dead cap nest season and Rhodes is $4.8 million. Smith is only $2 million but again I wouldn't move him for anything - he's an incredible value.

PFF CB scores

2016: Waynes — 18th, Rhodes — 1st

2017: Waynes — 42nd, Rhodes — 21st

2018: Waynes — 45th, Rhodes — 33rd

2019: Waynes — 53rd, Rhodes — 71st


Waynes has settled into mediocrity and Rhodes has fallen off the cliff. I know some think he's "faking" when he has to leave the field limping multiple times each season after getting burned, but he could have some type of arthritic (?) lower body condition that is exacerbated by extreme effort. I'd rather see Hill, Mac or Hughes starting.

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ORIGINAL: David F.

https://bringmethenews.com/minnesota-sports/mike-wobby-wobschall-no-longer-working-for-the-minnesota-vikings

"Mike Wobschall is no longer an employee of the Minnesota Vikings. We wish him the best in his future endeavors," said Vikings Vice President of Communications Jeff Anderson in a statement to Bring Me The News.

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ORIGINAL: odin

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: CPAMAN

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

Yep my bad.

The problem with the Defense is that it is aging in spots.....Rhodes, Joseph, and to a lesser extent Smith. This isn't a scheme issue.

Worse, the age spots are where the money is invested. Invest in players in long-term contracts and you eventually get little return on your investment.

The good news is that all three of them are highly movable next season although I sure wouldn't do anything with Smith. Linval has only $2.4 million in dead cap nest season and Rhodes is $4.8 million. Smith is only $2 million but again I wouldn't move him for anything - he's an incredible value.

PFF CB scores

2016: Waynes — 18th, Rhodes — 1st

2017: Waynes — 42nd, Rhodes — 21st

2018: Waynes — 45th, Rhodes — 33rd

2019: Waynes — 53rd, Rhodes — 71st


Waynes has settled into mediocrity and Rhodes has fallen off the cliff. I know some think he's "faking" when he has to leave the field limping multiple times each season after getting burned, but he could have some type of arthritic (?) lower body condition that is exacerbated by extreme effort. I'd rather see Hill, Mac or Hughes starting.

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: CPAMAN

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

Yep my bad.

The problem with the Defense is that it is aging in spots.....Rhodes, Joseph, and to a lesser extent Smith. This isn't a scheme issue.

Worse, the age spots are where the money is invested. Invest in players in long-term contracts and you eventually get little return on your investment.

The good news is that all three of them are highly movable next season although I sure wouldn't do anything with Smith. Linval has only $2.4 million in dead cap nest season and Rhodes is $4.8 million. Smith is only $2 million but again I wouldn't move him for anything - he's an incredible value.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: odin

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: CPAMAN

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

Yep my bad.

The problem with the Defense is that it is aging in spots.....Rhodes, Joseph, and to a lesser extent Smith. This isn't a scheme issue.

Worse, the age spots are where the money is invested. Invest in players in long-term contracts and you eventually get little return on your investment.

The good news is that all three of them are highly movable next season although I sure wouldn't do anything with Smith. Linval has only $2.4 million in dead cap nest season and Rhodes is $4.8 million. Smith is only $2 million but again I wouldn't move him for anything - he's an incredible value.

PFF CB scores

2016: Waynes — 18th, Rhodes — 1st

2017: Waynes — 42nd, Rhodes — 21st

2018: Waynes — 45th, Rhodes — 33rd

2019: Waynes — 53rd, Rhodes — 71st


Waynes has settled into mediocrity and Rhodes has fallen off the cliff. I know some think he's "faking" when he has to leave the field limping multiple times each season after getting burned, but he could have some type of arthritic (?) lower body condition that is exacerbated by extreme effort. I'd rather see Hill, Mac or Hughes starting.

Believable numbers. Thanks for posting that. Like to see Mac's if you can get them.

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ORIGINAL: David F.

https://bringmethenews.com/minnesota-sports/mike-wobby-wobschall-no-longer-working-for-the-minnesota-vikings

"Mike Wobschall is no longer an employee of the Minnesota Vikings. We wish him the best in his future endeavors," said Vikings Vice President of Communications Jeff Anderson in a statement to Bring Me The News.

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ORIGINAL: Ragnarök

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ORIGINAL: David F.

https://bringmethenews.com/minnesota-sports/mike-wobby-wobschall-no-longer-working-for-the-minnesota-vikings

"Mike Wobschall is no longer an employee of the Minnesota Vikings. We wish him the best in his future endeavors," said Vikings Vice President of Communications Jeff Anderson in a statement to Bring Me The News.

And the team quickly scrubbed Wobby from all team media info and bios... One has to wonder just what he did!

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: odin

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: CPAMAN

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

Yep my bad.

The problem with the Defense is that it is aging in spots.....Rhodes, Joseph, and to a lesser extent Smith. This isn't a scheme issue.

Worse, the age spots are where the money is invested. Invest in players in long-term contracts and you eventually get little return on your investment.

The good news is that all three of them are highly movable next season although I sure wouldn't do anything with Smith. Linval has only $2.4 million in dead cap nest season and Rhodes is $4.8 million. Smith is only $2 million but again I wouldn't move him for anything - he's an incredible value.

PFF CB scores

2016: Waynes — 18th, Rhodes — 1st

2017: Waynes — 42nd, Rhodes — 21st

2018: Waynes — 45th, Rhodes — 33rd

2019: Waynes — 53rd, Rhodes — 71st


Waynes has settled into mediocrity and Rhodes has fallen off the cliff. I know some think he's "faking" when he has to leave the field limping multiple times each season after getting burned, but he could have some type of arthritic (?) lower body condition that is exacerbated by extreme effort. I'd rather see Hill, Mac or Hughes starting.

Believable numbers. Thanks for posting that. Like to see Mac's if you can get them.

I don't know what his rank was but his season grades were:

2016: 47.5
2017: 54.1
2018: 78.1
2019: 69.0

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

Dave and Pager - must of been a heck of an experience attending that game. Too bad they couldn't of pulled it out for you. The environment to follow would of been super nuts.

- I made the comment on Game Day that I wish I could mute the announcers and just listen to the crowd.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: odin

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: CPAMAN

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

Yep my bad.

The problem with the Defense is that it is aging in spots.....Rhodes, Joseph, and to a lesser extent Smith. This isn't a scheme issue.

Worse, the age spots are where the money is invested. Invest in players in long-term contracts and you eventually get little return on your investment.

The good news is that all three of them are highly movable next season although I sure wouldn't do anything with Smith. Linval has only $2.4 million in dead cap nest season and Rhodes is $4.8 million. Smith is only $2 million but again I wouldn't move him for anything - he's an incredible value.

PFF CB scores

2016: Waynes — 18th, Rhodes — 1st

2017: Waynes — 42nd, Rhodes — 21st

2018: Waynes — 45th, Rhodes — 33rd

2019: Waynes — 53rd, Rhodes — 71st


Waynes has settled into mediocrity and Rhodes has fallen off the cliff. I know some think he's "faking" when he has to leave the field limping multiple times each season after getting burned, but he could have some type of arthritic (?) lower body condition that is exacerbated by extreme effort. I'd rather see Hill, Mac or Hughes starting.

Believable numbers. Thanks for posting that. Like to see Mac's if you can get them.

I don't know what his rank was but his season grades were:

2016: 47.5
2017: 54.1
2018: 78.1
2019: 69.0

Thanks. Thought Mac had a real good year last season. Numbers say different.

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

Dave and Pager - must of been a heck of an experience attending that game. Too bad they couldn't of pulled it out for you. The environment to follow would of been super nuts.

- I made the comment on Game Day that I wish I could mute the announcers and just listen to the crowd.

It was football heaven. Tailgating in all directions immediately adjacent to the stadium. Fans everywhere. Cheaper food and faster bathrooms.

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

I'm very sad with the news about Wobby. Lots to be sad about now. We could use some cheering up. Any volunteers?

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ORIGINAL: drviking

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ORIGINAL: Ragnarök

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ORIGINAL: David F.

https://bringmethenews.com/minnesota-sports/mike-wobby-wobschall-no-longer-working-for-the-minnesota-vikings

"Mike Wobschall is no longer an employee of the Minnesota Vikings. We wish him the best in his future endeavors," said Vikings Vice President of Communications Jeff Anderson in a statement to Bring Me The News.

And the team quickly scrubbed Wobby from all team media info and bios... One has to wonder just what he did!

IIRC he married one of the Wilf daughters

He was awful at his job

IMO