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ORIGINAL: drviking

And tell me why Sherels is not

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ORIGINAL: Pager

Cousins explanation for the checkdown on offsides (second hand):

KC explained Von Miller was coming free, he didnt see a flag, and Diggs was covered by the safety.


Safety was definitely over the top when I watched All Pro the other night. I'm going back to watch to see if Von Miller had a free run.

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ORIGINAL: Pager

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ORIGINAL: Pager

Cousins explanation for the checkdown on offsides (second hand):

KC explained Von Miller was coming free, he didnt see a flag, and Diggs was covered by the safety.


Safety was definitely over the top when I watched All Pro the other night. I'm going back to watch to see if Von Miller had a free run.

I'm calling B.S. on some of Cousins explanation. Von did not have a free run IMO. ONEill did a great job and Ham was helping before slipping out into the flat.

Cousins did look left just before the snap so I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt on the "not seeing the flag".


I hope its something Cousins is more cognizant about moving forward.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

https://www.dailynorseman.com/2019/11/20/20973676/minnesota-vikings-win-over-denver-broncos-proved-very-little

I wonder, what exactly is Mike Zimmer getting paid to do? This defensive ‘mastermind’ can’t get his team to beat Chase Daniel, or Matt Moore, and made Brandon Allen look like the second coming of Joe Montana. He’s supposed to be a ‘whisperer’ of defensive backs. Yet, Xavier Rhodes, Trae Waynes, and Mike Hughes, three 1st round picks, continue to look nothing short of horrendous each week trying to defend even mediocre receivers whether in man-to-man or zone coverage, and Mackensie Alexander hasn’t looked a lot better either. I’ve asked this here before, and I’ll ask again: Has Mike Zimmer never taught these guys how to look back for the ball, or how to play it when they do? Vikings corners have TWO interceptions in 11 games, TWO! That’s it! The Vikings are 25th in pass plays allowed of 20+ yards, that’s an enormous problem. When that happens with such frequency (40 times in 11 games), that is COACHING every bit that it’s the players.

Thought this snippet from the article was spot on.

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ORIGINAL: Pager

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ORIGINAL: Pager

Cousins explanation for the checkdown on offsides (second hand):

KC explained Von Miller was coming free, he didnt see a flag, and Diggs was covered by the safety.


Safety was definitely over the top when I watched All Pro the other night. I'm going back to watch to see if Von Miller had a free run.

I'm calling B.S. on some of Cousins explanation. Von did not have a free run IMO. ONEill did a great job and Ham was helping before slipping out into the flat.

Cousins did look left just before the snap so I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt on the "not seeing the flag".


I hope its something Cousins is more cognizant about moving forward.

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ORIGINAL: jbusse

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

https://www.dailynorseman.com/2019/11/20/20973676/minnesota-vikings-win-over-denver-broncos-proved-very-little

I wonder, what exactly is Mike Zimmer getting paid to do? This defensive ‘mastermind’ can’t get his team to beat Chase Daniel, or Matt Moore, and made Brandon Allen look like the second coming of Joe Montana. He’s supposed to be a ‘whisperer’ of defensive backs. Yet, Xavier Rhodes, Trae Waynes, and Mike Hughes, three 1st round picks, continue to look nothing short of horrendous each week trying to defend even mediocre receivers whether in man-to-man or zone coverage, and Mackensie Alexander hasn’t looked a lot better either. I’ve asked this here before, and I’ll ask again: Has Mike Zimmer never taught these guys how to look back for the ball, or how to play it when they do? Vikings corners have TWO interceptions in 11 games, TWO! That’s it! The Vikings are 25th in pass plays allowed of 20+ yards, that’s an enormous problem. When that happens with such frequency (40 times in 11 games), that is COACHING every bit that it’s the players.

Thought this snippet from the article was spot on.

I liked this part as well:

Scheme suggestion: on 3rd down defense, the line should look like this left to right (facing from the offensive side): Anthony Barr, Stephen Weatherly, Danielle Hunter, Everson Griffen. Barr is much better playing downhill, and his speed on an edge rush and/or contain could prove a big difference against faster quarterback. Play Jayron Kearse where Barr would play as a linebacker, and go from there. Kearse clearly covers better than Barr. Also, please give Holton Hill more playing time, this guy has proven he can play, and there’s no way he could play worse than the current corners Zimmer chooses to field most of the time, right?

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: jbusse

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

https://www.dailynorseman.com/2019/11/20/20973676/minnesota-vikings-win-over-denver-broncos-proved-very-little

I wonder, what exactly is Mike Zimmer getting paid to do? This defensive ‘mastermind’ can’t get his team to beat Chase Daniel, or Matt Moore, and made Brandon Allen look like the second coming of Joe Montana. He’s supposed to be a ‘whisperer’ of defensive backs. Yet, Xavier Rhodes, Trae Waynes, and Mike Hughes, three 1st round picks, continue to look nothing short of horrendous each week trying to defend even mediocre receivers whether in man-to-man or zone coverage, and Mackensie Alexander hasn’t looked a lot better either. I’ve asked this here before, and I’ll ask again: Has Mike Zimmer never taught these guys how to look back for the ball, or how to play it when they do? Vikings corners have TWO interceptions in 11 games, TWO! That’s it! The Vikings are 25th in pass plays allowed of 20+ yards, that’s an enormous problem. When that happens with such frequency (40 times in 11 games), that is COACHING every bit that it’s the players.

Thought this snippet from the article was spot on.

I liked this part as well:

Scheme suggestion: on 3rd down defense, the line should look like this left to right (facing from the offensive side): Anthony Barr, Stephen Weatherly, Danielle Hunter, Everson Griffen. Barr is much better playing downhill, and his speed on an edge rush and/or contain could prove a big difference against faster quarterback. Play Jayron Kearse where Barr would play as a linebacker, and go from there. Kearse clearly covers better than Barr. Also, please give Holton Hill more playing time, this guy has proven he can play, and there’s no way he could play worse than the current corners Zimmer chooses to field most of the time, right?

Agree 100%

Barr's skill set as a pass rusher are way under utilized.

Kearse is way better in coverage so it's a win win.

Adding some juice to are pass rush is much needed and the player is right there on the field being asked to do something he isn't good at instead.

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ORIGINAL: jbusse

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: jbusse

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

https://www.dailynorseman.com/2019/11/20/20973676/minnesota-vikings-win-over-denver-broncos-proved-very-little

I wonder, what exactly is Mike Zimmer getting paid to do? This defensive ‘mastermind’ can’t get his team to beat Chase Daniel, or Matt Moore, and made Brandon Allen look like the second coming of Joe Montana. He’s supposed to be a ‘whisperer’ of defensive backs. Yet, Xavier Rhodes, Trae Waynes, and Mike Hughes, three 1st round picks, continue to look nothing short of horrendous each week trying to defend even mediocre receivers whether in man-to-man or zone coverage, and Mackensie Alexander hasn’t looked a lot better either. I’ve asked this here before, and I’ll ask again: Has Mike Zimmer never taught these guys how to look back for the ball, or how to play it when they do? Vikings corners have TWO interceptions in 11 games, TWO! That’s it! The Vikings are 25th in pass plays allowed of 20+ yards, that’s an enormous problem. When that happens with such frequency (40 times in 11 games), that is COACHING every bit that it’s the players.

Thought this snippet from the article was spot on.

I liked this part as well:

Scheme suggestion: on 3rd down defense, the line should look like this left to right (facing from the offensive side): Anthony Barr, Stephen Weatherly, Danielle Hunter, Everson Griffen. Barr is much better playing downhill, and his speed on an edge rush and/or contain could prove a big difference against faster quarterback. Play Jayron Kearse where Barr would play as a linebacker, and go from there. Kearse clearly covers better than Barr. Also, please give Holton Hill more playing time, this guy has proven he can play, and there’s no way he could play worse than the current corners Zimmer chooses to field most of the time, right?

Agree 100%

Barr's skill set as a pass rusher are way under utilized.

Kearse is way better in coverage so it's a win win.

Adding some juice to are pass rush is much needed and the player is right there on the field being asked to do something he isn't good at instead.

One of the reporters should ask Zimmer about these possibilities during a press conference. Something tells me Zimmer would not respond well.

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ORIGINAL: kevinemmer

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ORIGINAL: Pager

Cousins explanation for the checkdown on offsides (second hand):

KC explained Von Miller was coming free, he didnt see a flag, and Diggs was covered by the safety.


Safety was definitely over the top when I watched All Pro the other night. I'm going back to watch to see if Von Miller had a free run.

#1 on explanation should have been he didn't see (or was aware of) the flag.

Everything else is a big SO WHAT?

Launch it and see what happens.

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: kevinemmer

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ORIGINAL: Pager

Cousins explanation for the checkdown on offsides (second hand):

KC explained Von Miller was coming free, he didnt see a flag, and Diggs was covered by the safety.


Safety was definitely over the top when I watched All Pro the other night. I'm going back to watch to see if Von Miller had a free run.

#1 on explanation should have been he didn't see (or was aware of) the flag.

Everything else is a big SO WHAT?

Launch it and see what happens.

You mean like an INT, and then the flag is on the OL?

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: jbusse

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: jbusse

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

https://www.dailynorseman.com/2019/11/20/20973676/minnesota-vikings-win-over-denver-broncos-proved-very-little

I wonder, what exactly is Mike Zimmer getting paid to do? This defensive ‘mastermind’ can’t get his team to beat Chase Daniel, or Matt Moore, and made Brandon Allen look like the second coming of Joe Montana. He’s supposed to be a ‘whisperer’ of defensive backs. Yet, Xavier Rhodes, Trae Waynes, and Mike Hughes, three 1st round picks, continue to look nothing short of horrendous each week trying to defend even mediocre receivers whether in man-to-man or zone coverage, and Mackensie Alexander hasn’t looked a lot better either. I’ve asked this here before, and I’ll ask again: Has Mike Zimmer never taught these guys how to look back for the ball, or how to play it when they do? Vikings corners have TWO interceptions in 11 games, TWO! That’s it! The Vikings are 25th in pass plays allowed of 20+ yards, that’s an enormous problem. When that happens with such frequency (40 times in 11 games), that is COACHING every bit that it’s the players.

Thought this snippet from the article was spot on.

I liked this part as well:

Scheme suggestion: on 3rd down defense, the line should look like this left to right (facing from the offensive side): Anthony Barr, Stephen Weatherly, Danielle Hunter, Everson Griffen. Barr is much better playing downhill, and his speed on an edge rush and/or contain could prove a big difference against faster quarterback. Play Jayron Kearse where Barr would play as a linebacker, and go from there. Kearse clearly covers better than Barr. Also, please give Holton Hill more playing time, this guy has proven he can play, and there’s no way he could play worse than the current corners Zimmer chooses to field most of the time, right?

Agree 100%

Barr's skill set as a pass rusher are way under utilized.

Kearse is way better in coverage so it's a win win.

Adding some juice to are pass rush is much needed and the player is right there on the field being asked to do something he isn't good at instead.

One of the reporters should ask Zimmer about these possibilities during a press conference. Something tells me Zimmer would not respond well.

One of the assistant coaches should bring it up in a meeting. Maybe they have. In my dreamworld the coaches have talked up a bunch of this kind of stuff and see the ways they could capitalize on the misdirection and surprise of bringing out a twist like this every once in a while. Again, dreamworld here, I hope they've got this stuff waiting - waiting for the playoffs or NFCCG. So that this time it's the Vikings that are being talked about for having such a great strategy.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: kevinemmer

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ORIGINAL: Pager

Cousins explanation for the checkdown on offsides (second hand):

KC explained Von Miller was coming free, he didnt see a flag, and Diggs was covered by the safety.


Safety was definitely over the top when I watched All Pro the other night. I'm going back to watch to see if Von Miller had a free run.

#1 on explanation should have been he didn't see (or was aware of) the flag.

Everything else is a big SO WHAT?

Launch it and see what happens.

You mean like an INT, and then the flag is on the OL?

I might be wrong but don't they blow the play dead on a false start?

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: kevinemmer

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ORIGINAL: Pager

Cousins explanation for the checkdown on offsides (second hand):

KC explained Von Miller was coming free, he didnt see a flag, and Diggs was covered by the safety.


Safety was definitely over the top when I watched All Pro the other night. I'm going back to watch to see if Von Miller had a free run.

#1 on explanation should have been he didn't see (or was aware of) the flag.

Everything else is a big SO WHAT?

Launch it and see what happens.

You mean like an INT, and then the flag is on the OL?

I might be wrong but don't they blow the play dead on a false start?

You are correct.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: jbusse

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: jbusse

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

https://www.dailynorseman.com/2019/11/20/20973676/minnesota-vikings-win-over-denver-broncos-proved-very-little

I wonder, what exactly is Mike Zimmer getting paid to do? This defensive ‘mastermind’ can’t get his team to beat Chase Daniel, or Matt Moore, and made Brandon Allen look like the second coming of Joe Montana. He’s supposed to be a ‘whisperer’ of defensive backs. Yet, Xavier Rhodes, Trae Waynes, and Mike Hughes, three 1st round picks, continue to look nothing short of horrendous each week trying to defend even mediocre receivers whether in man-to-man or zone coverage, and Mackensie Alexander hasn’t looked a lot better either. I’ve asked this here before, and I’ll ask again: Has Mike Zimmer never taught these guys how to look back for the ball, or how to play it when they do? Vikings corners have TWO interceptions in 11 games, TWO! That’s it! The Vikings are 25th in pass plays allowed of 20+ yards, that’s an enormous problem. When that happens with such frequency (40 times in 11 games), that is COACHING every bit that it’s the players.

Thought this snippet from the article was spot on.

I liked this part as well:

Scheme suggestion: on 3rd down defense, the line should look like this left to right (facing from the offensive side): Anthony Barr, Stephen Weatherly, Danielle Hunter, Everson Griffen. Barr is much better playing downhill, and his speed on an edge rush and/or contain could prove a big difference against faster quarterback. Play Jayron Kearse where Barr would play as a linebacker, and go from there. Kearse clearly covers better than Barr. Also, please give Holton Hill more playing time, this guy has proven he can play, and there’s no way he could play worse than the current corners Zimmer chooses to field most of the time, right?

Agree 100%

Barr's skill set as a pass rusher are way under utilized.

Kearse is way better in coverage so it's a win win.

Adding some juice to are pass rush is much needed and the player is right there on the field being asked to do something he isn't good at instead.

One of the reporters should ask Zimmer about these possibilities during a press conference. Something tells me Zimmer would not respond well.

One of the assistant coaches should bring it up in a meeting. Maybe they have. In my dreamworld the coaches have talked up a bunch of this kind of stuff and see the ways they could capitalize on the misdirection and surprise of bringing out a twist like this every once in a while. Again, dreamworld here, I hope they've got this stuff waiting - waiting for the playoffs or NFCCG. So that this time it's the Vikings that are being talked about for having such a great strategy.

One would think if they had a new twist regarding the pass rush it certainly should have been used on one of those 4th down plays Denver converted on in that final drive.

We very easily could have lost that game had Allen thrown that final pass to Fant with a little more touch.

I haven't seen much creativity in the rush this season for the most part.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

Shouldn't be difficult for Cousins to recognize an off side on the defense.

Diggs also needs to be aware and do a fly pattern.

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ORIGINAL: bongbong

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: jbusse

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: jbusse

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

https://www.dailynorseman.com/2019/11/20/20973676/minnesota-vikings-win-over-denver-broncos-proved-very-little

I wonder, what exactly is Mike Zimmer getting paid to do? This defensive ‘mastermind’ can’t get his team to beat Chase Daniel, or Matt Moore, and made Brandon Allen look like the second coming of Joe Montana. He’s supposed to be a ‘whisperer’ of defensive backs. Yet, Xavier Rhodes, Trae Waynes, and Mike Hughes, three 1st round picks, continue to look nothing short of horrendous each week trying to defend even mediocre receivers whether in man-to-man or zone coverage, and Mackensie Alexander hasn’t looked a lot better either. I’ve asked this here before, and I’ll ask again: Has Mike Zimmer never taught these guys how to look back for the ball, or how to play it when they do? Vikings corners have TWO interceptions in 11 games, TWO! That’s it! The Vikings are 25th in pass plays allowed of 20+ yards, that’s an enormous problem. When that happens with such frequency (40 times in 11 games), that is COACHING every bit that it’s the players.

Thought this snippet from the article was spot on.

I liked this part as well:

Scheme suggestion: on 3rd down defense, the line should look like this left to right (facing from the offensive side): Anthony Barr, Stephen Weatherly, Danielle Hunter, Everson Griffen. Barr is much better playing downhill, and his speed on an edge rush and/or contain could prove a big difference against faster quarterback. Play Jayron Kearse where Barr would play as a linebacker, and go from there. Kearse clearly covers better than Barr. Also, please give Holton Hill more playing time, this guy has proven he can play, and there’s no way he could play worse than the current corners Zimmer chooses to field most of the time, right?

Agree 100%

Barr's skill set as a pass rusher are way under utilized.

Kearse is way better in coverage so it's a win win.

Adding some juice to are pass rush is much needed and the player is right there on the field being asked to do something he isn't good at instead.

One of the reporters should ask Zimmer about these possibilities during a press conference. Something tells me Zimmer would not respond well.

One of the assistant coaches should bring it up in a meeting. Maybe they have. In my dreamworld the coaches have talked up a bunch of this kind of stuff and see the ways they could capitalize on the misdirection and surprise of bringing out a twist like this every once in a while. Again, dreamworld here, I hope they've got this stuff waiting - waiting for the playoffs or NFCCG. So that this time it's the Vikings that are being talked about for having such a great strategy.

One would think if they had a new twist regarding the pass rush it certainly should have been used on one of those 4th down plays Denver converted on in that final drive.

We very easily could have lost that game had Allen thrown that final pass to Fant with a little more touch.

I haven't seen much creativity in the rush this season for the most part.

Could we have then challenged for offensive PI? It was kind of blatant, but I don't think there's been a successful challenge this year

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: kevinemmer

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ORIGINAL: Pager

Cousins explanation for the checkdown on offsides (second hand):

KC explained Von Miller was coming free, he didnt see a flag, and Diggs was covered by the safety.


Safety was definitely over the top when I watched All Pro the other night. I'm going back to watch to see if Von Miller had a free run.

#1 on explanation should have been he didn't see (or was aware of) the flag.

Everything else is a big SO WHAT?

Launch it and see what happens.

You mean like an INT, and then the flag is on the OL?

I might be wrong but don't they blow the play dead on a false start?

You are correct.

But, not on an illegal formation.

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

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ORIGINAL: bongbong

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: jbusse

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: jbusse

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

https://www.dailynorseman.com/2019/11/20/20973676/minnesota-vikings-win-over-denver-broncos-proved-very-little

I wonder, what exactly is Mike Zimmer getting paid to do? This defensive ‘mastermind’ can’t get his team to beat Chase Daniel, or Matt Moore, and made Brandon Allen look like the second coming of Joe Montana. He’s supposed to be a ‘whisperer’ of defensive backs. Yet, Xavier Rhodes, Trae Waynes, and Mike Hughes, three 1st round picks, continue to look nothing short of horrendous each week trying to defend even mediocre receivers whether in man-to-man or zone coverage, and Mackensie Alexander hasn’t looked a lot better either. I’ve asked this here before, and I’ll ask again: Has Mike Zimmer never taught these guys how to look back for the ball, or how to play it when they do? Vikings corners have TWO interceptions in 11 games, TWO! That’s it! The Vikings are 25th in pass plays allowed of 20+ yards, that’s an enormous problem. When that happens with such frequency (40 times in 11 games), that is COACHING every bit that it’s the players.

Thought this snippet from the article was spot on.

I liked this part as well:

Scheme suggestion: on 3rd down defense, the line should look like this left to right (facing from the offensive side): Anthony Barr, Stephen Weatherly, Danielle Hunter, Everson Griffen. Barr is much better playing downhill, and his speed on an edge rush and/or contain could prove a big difference against faster quarterback. Play Jayron Kearse where Barr would play as a linebacker, and go from there. Kearse clearly covers better than Barr. Also, please give Holton Hill more playing time, this guy has proven he can play, and there’s no way he could play worse than the current corners Zimmer chooses to field most of the time, right?

Agree 100%

Barr's skill set as a pass rusher are way under utilized.

Kearse is way better in coverage so it's a win win.

Adding some juice to are pass rush is much needed and the player is right there on the field being asked to do something he isn't good at instead.

One of the reporters should ask Zimmer about these possibilities during a press conference. Something tells me Zimmer would not respond well.

One of the assistant coaches should bring it up in a meeting. Maybe they have. In my dreamworld the coaches have talked up a bunch of this kind of stuff and see the ways they could capitalize on the misdirection and surprise of bringing out a twist like this every once in a while. Again, dreamworld here, I hope they've got this stuff waiting - waiting for the playoffs or NFCCG. So that this time it's the Vikings that are being talked about for having such a great strategy.

One would think if they had a new twist regarding the pass rush it certainly should have been used on one of those 4th down plays Denver converted on in that final drive.

We very easily could have lost that game had Allen thrown that final pass to Fant with a little more touch.

I haven't seen much creativity in the rush this season for the most part.

Could we have then challenged for offensive PI? It was kind of blatant, but I don't think there's been a successful challenge this year

if it were a scoring play there would be a booth review. That would be subject to the review process, but they really haven't been overturning those calls at all this year.

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

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ORIGINAL: bongbong

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: jbusse

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: jbusse

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

https://www.dailynorseman.com/2019/11/20/20973676/minnesota-vikings-win-over-denver-broncos-proved-very-little

I wonder, what exactly is Mike Zimmer getting paid to do? This defensive ‘mastermind’ can’t get his team to beat Chase Daniel, or Matt Moore, and made Brandon Allen look like the second coming of Joe Montana. He’s supposed to be a ‘whisperer’ of defensive backs. Yet, Xavier Rhodes, Trae Waynes, and Mike Hughes, three 1st round picks, continue to look nothing short of horrendous each week trying to defend even mediocre receivers whether in man-to-man or zone coverage, and Mackensie Alexander hasn’t looked a lot better either. I’ve asked this here before, and I’ll ask again: Has Mike Zimmer never taught these guys how to look back for the ball, or how to play it when they do? Vikings corners have TWO interceptions in 11 games, TWO! That’s it! The Vikings are 25th in pass plays allowed of 20+ yards, that’s an enormous problem. When that happens with such frequency (40 times in 11 games), that is COACHING every bit that it’s the players.

Thought this snippet from the article was spot on.

I liked this part as well:

Scheme suggestion: on 3rd down defense, the line should look like this left to right (facing from the offensive side): Anthony Barr, Stephen Weatherly, Danielle Hunter, Everson Griffen. Barr is much better playing downhill, and his speed on an edge rush and/or contain could prove a big difference against faster quarterback. Play Jayron Kearse where Barr would play as a linebacker, and go from there. Kearse clearly covers better than Barr. Also, please give Holton Hill more playing time, this guy has proven he can play, and there’s no way he could play worse than the current corners Zimmer chooses to field most of the time, right?

Agree 100%

Barr's skill set as a pass rusher are way under utilized.

Kearse is way better in coverage so it's a win win.

Adding some juice to are pass rush is much needed and the player is right there on the field being asked to do something he isn't good at instead.

One of the reporters should ask Zimmer about these possibilities during a press conference. Something tells me Zimmer would not respond well.

One of the assistant coaches should bring it up in a meeting. Maybe they have. In my dreamworld the coaches have talked up a bunch of this kind of stuff and see the ways they could capitalize on the misdirection and surprise of bringing out a twist like this every once in a while. Again, dreamworld here, I hope they've got this stuff waiting - waiting for the playoffs or NFCCG. So that this time it's the Vikings that are being talked about for having such a great strategy.

One would think if they had a new twist regarding the pass rush it certainly should have been used on one of those 4th down plays Denver converted on in that final drive.

We very easily could have lost that game had Allen thrown that final pass to Fant with a little more touch.

I haven't seen much creativity in the rush this season for the most part.

Could we have then challenged for offensive PI? It was kind of blatant, but I don't think there's been a successful challenge this year

if it were a scoring play there would be a booth review. That would be subject to the review process, but they really haven't been overturning those calls at all this year.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

You've obviously forgotten getting screwed out of a TD at Lambeu this year.

That was NY f'n with us on a scoring review. Trekkie was referring to challenging PI. None that I know of (no matter how blatant) have been over turned. The rule was mainly put in just to tell the Saints to STFU.