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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/20/2019 1:06:21 PM

David F.

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I heard that the Vikings were planning to attend Kaepernick's workout. He changed the location, and a bunch of teams, including the Vikings (via KFAN), decided not to go. ATL is spread out, so the change in location was significant given the late timing. Not sure what his advisers were thinking.

The NFL wasn't going to allow Kaep's people to film the workout. This would have put the NFL in the position where they could pick out the three or four worst throws of the workout and only show those.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/20/2019 2:17:40 PM

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Cool footage of last week's game:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2HyQhteg_Q

And the Cowboy game:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWwZD1G77fU&list=PLfMaQna9uEI9jWaPwxwMLnr0dNeWxK4Jk

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/20/2019 2:32:40 PM

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: jbusse

I heard that the Vikings were planning to attend Kaepernick's workout. He changed the location, and a bunch of teams, including the Vikings (via KFAN), decided not to go. ATL is spread out, so the change in location was significant given the late timing. Not sure what his advisers were thinking.

The NFL wasn't going to allow Kaep's people to film the workout. This would have put the NFL in the position where they could pick out the three or four worst throws of the workout and only show those.

Or there's the Jason Whitlock position on this: Kap isn't really interested in playing football. (Among other passionately held opinions on the matter.)

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/20/2019 2:37:38 PM

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Cool footage of last week's game:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2HyQhteg_Q

And the Cowboy game:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWwZD1G77fU&list=PLfMaQna9uEI9jWaPwxwMLnr0dNeWxK4Jk

Thanks. I enjoyed both of them.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/20/2019 3:03:02 PM

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: jbusse

I heard that the Vikings were planning to attend Kaepernick's workout. He changed the location, and a bunch of teams, including the Vikings (via KFAN), decided not to go. ATL is spread out, so the change in location was significant given the late timing. Not sure what his advisers were thinking.

The NFL wasn't going to allow Kaep's people to film the workout. This would have put the NFL in the position where they could pick out the three or four worst throws of the workout and only show those.

kaepernick has made over $43m during his career...why did he need the nfl to help him put together a workout?...he could have hired an event organizer and designed everything just the way he wanted it - including location obviously...if he is really serious then he's a fool for allowing another entity to have any control in it...especially since it seems he has zero trust in the nfl anyway....

i support his right to play, but he and his team handled the whole thing like amateurs....

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/20/2019 3:03:38 PM

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ORIGINAL: bongbong

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: jbusse

I heard that the Vikings were planning to attend Kaepernick's workout. He changed the location, and a bunch of teams, including the Vikings (via KFAN), decided not to go. ATL is spread out, so the change in location was significant given the late timing. Not sure what his advisers were thinking.

The NFL wasn't going to allow Kaep's people to film the workout. This would have put the NFL in the position where they could pick out the three or four worst throws of the workout and only show those.

Or there's the Jason Whitlock position on this: Kap isn't really interested in playing football. (Among other passionately held opinions on the matter.)

The question is:

1) Will he take a backup salary with incentives if he starts?

2) Will he want Kinte on the back of his jesey?

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/20/2019 3:05:35 PM

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: jbusse

I heard that the Vikings were planning to attend Kaepernick's workout. He changed the location, and a bunch of teams, including the Vikings (via KFAN), decided not to go. ATL is spread out, so the change in location was significant given the late timing. Not sure what his advisers were thinking.

The NFL wasn't going to allow Kaep's people to film the workout. This would have put the NFL in the position where they could pick out the three or four worst throws of the workout and only show those.

kaepernick has made over $43m during his career...why did he need the nfl to help him put together a workout?...he could have hired an event organizer and designed everything just the way he wanted it - including location obviously...if he is really serious then he's a fool for allowing another entity to have any control in it...especially since it seems he has zero trust in the nfl anyway....

i support his right to play, but he and his team handled the whole thing like amateurs....

Sharpton ain't getting any younger. Someone needs to take over the mantle at some point.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/20/2019 3:26:00 PM

Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: jbusse

I heard that the Vikings were planning to attend Kaepernick's workout. He changed the location, and a bunch of teams, including the Vikings (via KFAN), decided not to go. ATL is spread out, so the change in location was significant given the late timing. Not sure what his advisers were thinking.

The NFL wasn't going to allow Kaep's people to film the workout. This would have put the NFL in the position where they could pick out the three or four worst throws of the workout and only show those.

kaepernick has made over $43m during his career...why did he need the nfl to help him put together a workout?...he could have hired an event organizer and designed everything just the way he wanted it - including location obviously...if he is really serious then he's a fool for allowing another entity to have any control in it...especially since it seems he has zero trust in the nfl anyway....

i support his right to play, but he and his team handled the whole thing like amateurs....

He also received a settlement from the NFL...

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/20/2019 4:12:01 PM

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: jbusse

I heard that the Vikings were planning to attend Kaepernick's workout. He changed the location, and a bunch of teams, including the Vikings (via KFAN), decided not to go. ATL is spread out, so the change in location was significant given the late timing. Not sure what his advisers were thinking.

The NFL wasn't going to allow Kaep's people to film the workout. This would have put the NFL in the position where they could pick out the three or four worst throws of the workout and only show those.

kaepernick has made over $43m during his career...why did he need the nfl to help him put together a workout?...he could have hired an event organizer and designed everything just the way he wanted it - including location obviously...if he is really serious then he's a fool for allowing another entity to have any control in it...especially since it seems he has zero trust in the nfl anyway....

i support his right to play, but he and his team handled the whole thing like amateurs....

He also received a settlement from the NFL...

And a pile of cash from Nike. I'm having trouble finding out how much, but it's in the millions.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/20/2019 4:24:53 PM

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: bongbong

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: jbusse

I heard that the Vikings were planning to attend Kaepernick's workout. He changed the location, and a bunch of teams, including the Vikings (via KFAN), decided not to go. ATL is spread out, so the change in location was significant given the late timing. Not sure what his advisers were thinking.

The NFL wasn't going to allow Kaep's people to film the workout. This would have put the NFL in the position where they could pick out the three or four worst throws of the workout and only show those.

Or there's the Jason Whitlock position on this: Kap isn't really interested in playing football. (Among other passionately held opinions on the matter.)

The question is:

1) Will he take a backup salary with incentives if he starts?

2) Will he want Kinte on the back of his jesey?

1. He better be okay with a few paltry milion as a back-up, cause he was a marginal starter and probably didn't get better over a 3-year absence.
2. Yeah, what a dope. If he wants his cause to be taken seriously, that kind of bull ain't helping. (Although he sounds like Nom Chansky(?) compared to guys like Michael Bennett.)

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/20/2019 4:57:34 PM

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Cool footage of last week's game:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2HyQhteg_Q

And the Cowboy game:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWwZD1G77fU&list=PLfMaQna9uEI9jWaPwxwMLnr0dNeWxK4Jk

At about the 3:03 mark of the first one, it shows the Vikes sideline as the Rudolph TD is happening, listen to the crowd, it sounds like a jet taking off.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/20/2019 7:28:03 PM

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Somebody tell me again why Ameer Abdullah is still on the team?

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/20/2019 8:06:11 PM

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And tell me why Sherels is not

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/20/2019 8:12:22 PM

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Somebody tell me again why Ameer Abdullah is still on the team?

Thought I saw Abdullah was a lock for special teams in the pro bowl.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/20/2019 8:17:34 PM

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Somebody tell me again why Ameer Abdullah is still on the team?

Thought I saw Abdullah was a lock for special teams in the pro bowl.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/20/2019 8:28:12 PM

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Somebody tell me again why Ameer Abdullah is still on the team?

Thought I saw Abdullah was a lock for special teams in the pro bowl.

When Cook needs a break, it seems we trust Abdullah more on 3rd downs than Mattison. He catches better and picks up blitz better.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/20/2019 8:50:47 PM

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Somebody tell me again why Ameer Abdullah is still on the team?

Thought I saw Abdullah was a lock for special teams in the pro bowl.

Maybe. Although it appears he has 0 ST tackles. And his KRs have resulted in worse than just taking it at the 25. 41 yards rushing, 41 yards receiving, 1 TD on a play I could have scored on. And his penchant for fumbling always front and center.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/20/2019 8:53:23 PM

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Somebody tell me again why Ameer Abdullah is still on the team?

Thought I saw Abdullah was a lock for special teams in the pro bowl.

When Cook needs a break, it seems we trust Abdullah more on 3rd downs than Mattison. He catches better and picks up blitz better.

I disagree that Abdullah catches better than Mattison is an excellent receiver.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/20/2019 9:46:45 PM

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I'd rather see Boone than Abdullah. And kept blasingale.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/20/2019 9:46:48 PM

Bruce Johnson

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Somebody tell me again why Ameer Abdullah is still on the team?

As a backup running back he is averaging 5.1 yards per carry and he has caught 5 passes on 7 targets for 8.2 yards per reception. Coincidentally, that translates to just 41 yards of each, but I think he has done ok as a third running back.

The problem is his propensity to drop the ball. I watched carefully his fumble on the kickoff. It looks like he was making effort to secure the ball, but just got crushed. That was his one fumble of the season and I suppose that's going to happen now and then to anyone who has that job.

I am more wondering why Hughes is the punt returner. He doesn't seem natural catching the ball. He has had three fumbles for the season including two last Sunday.

edit: sorry because I am repeating other comments already made

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/20/2019 10:02:50 PM

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Cousins explanation for the checkdown on offsides (second hand):

KC explained Von Miller was coming free, he didnt see a flag, and Diggs was covered by the safety.

Safety was definitely over the top when I watched All Pro the other night. I'm going back to watch to see if Von Miller had a free run.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/20/2019 10:03:53 PM

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I heard that the Vikings were planning to attend Kaepernick's workout. He changed the location, and a bunch of teams, including the Vikings (via KFAN), decided not to go. ATL is spread out, so the change in location was significant given the late timing. Not sure what his advisers were thinking.

The NFL wasn't going to allow Kaep's people to film the workout. This would have put the NFL in the position where they could pick out the three or four worst throws of the workout and only show those.

If Kaep was so eager to work out in front of 25 teams, then why move the workout a full hour away from the location 45 minutes before his supposed workout was scheduled at the Falcons facility?

Plenty of other fields he could’ve switched it to at the last minute that were much closer, especially with all the planned activist all dressed up for the occasion.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/20/2019 10:26:17 PM

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Cousins explanation for the checkdown on offsides (second hand):

KC explained Von Miller was coming free, he didnt see a flag, and Diggs was covered by the safety.

Safety was definitely over the top when I watched All Pro the other night. I'm going back to watch to see if Von Miller had a free run.

I'm calling B.S. on some of Cousins explanation. Von did not have a free run IMO. ONEill did a great job and Ham was helping before slipping out into the flat.

Cousins did look left just before the snap so I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt on the "not seeing the flag".

I hope its something Cousins is more cognizant about moving forward.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/20/2019 10:52:56 PM

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https://www.dailynorseman.com/2019/11/20/20971092/kirk-cousins-quietly-having-his-best-season-and-perhaps-nfl-best-this-year-too

Interesting article. I like reading wulford but I do have one huge exception (and not only with him but this "myth"/narrative): While in Washington, it was said that Cousins didn’t shoulder the blame well, instead pointing the finger at other players, and that created some friction between him and his teammates, while also making his leadership role more difficult.

I have never seen a teammate or coach go on record. In fact - all the info I could find back when we were debating signing Cousins, I couldn't find anything. What I do know for a fact: both Shanahans (Kyle/Mike) and McVay LOVE him as a player. Which would NEVER happen if he was a bad teammate or poor leader. Never.

The rest of the article is interesting. I didn't realize Cousins is a .600 wining QB since joining Vikings. 16-10-1. Obviously can change quickly.

The other thing someone pointed out that doesn't talked about - his Cousins durability. We went from Teddy, to Bradford, all with injuries (and that's just recent history). Cousins would be the first QB to start 16 games back to back in the history of our team! Mind blowing.

Would you resign him right now at a reasonable rate? I would. I don't think his play is a fluke. I would also draft a QB to develop. But our offense is very good and could be for awhile. Only 2 holes right now imo: A stud LG and stud 3rd WR (I project ONeil to LT and either Collins or Udoh at RT, our TEs esp Smith to continue to improve, Bradbury to be a top 5 center, and Samia to take over at RG in two years - A LOT OF ASSUMPTIONS I know).

Complete aside: Bradbury (I read) is the 9th rated center since game 4