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ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: Viking Rich

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

Vikings punish Stefon Diggs, he practices, but playing status is undetermined

Stefon Diggs has been punished for his absence on Wednesday and is good to go, but Vikings coach Mike Zimmer wouldn’t commit publicly to playing him against the Giants in New Jersey on Sunday.

“I don’t know,” Zimmer said Friday when asked if Diggs will play. “We’ll see.”

Asked if Diggs looked like his old self in practice Thursday and Friday, Zimmer said, “I have to watch the tape.”

Asked what he’ll base his decision on when it comes to playing Diggs on Sunday, Zimmer said, “Got to watch the tape.”

Then, when asked to confirm that it will be based on how Diggs practiced and not based on punishment, Zimmer said, “He’s already been punished.”

http://www.startribune.com/vikings-punish-stefon-diggs-he-practices-but-playing-status-is-undetermined/562192832/

Zimmer is the cancer on this team.

He's dug in, and is convinced his 70s style ground and pound, with Ham leading the way, is the best way to win.

If he's already punished Diggs, and the man is practicing, is more punishment required?

No wonder this roster is under-performing. Too much drama led by a spiteful head coach who keeps shit going.

Maybe I'm reading impaired, but didn't Zimmer say Diggs has already been punished? I could be wrong.

He says hes already punished but then says he's not sure if he's going to play this weekend. So yeah I agree it's weird the way Zimmer talks out of both sides of his mouth.

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: Viking Rich

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

Vikings punish Stefon Diggs, he practices, but playing status is undetermined

Stefon Diggs has been punished for his absence on Wednesday and is good to go, but Vikings coach Mike Zimmer wouldn’t commit publicly to playing him against the Giants in New Jersey on Sunday.

“I don’t know,” Zimmer said Friday when asked if Diggs will play. “We’ll see.”

Asked if Diggs looked like his old self in practice Thursday and Friday, Zimmer said, “I have to watch the tape.”

Asked what he’ll base his decision on when it comes to playing Diggs on Sunday, Zimmer said, “Got to watch the tape.”

Then, when asked to confirm that it will be based on how Diggs practiced and not based on punishment, Zimmer said, “He’s already been punished.”

http://www.startribune.com/vikings-punish-stefon-diggs-he-practices-but-playing-status-is-undetermined/562192832/

Zimmer is the cancer on this team.

He's dug in, and is convinced his 70s style ground and pound, with Ham leading the way, is the best way to win.

If he's already punished Diggs, and the man is practicing, is more punishment required?

No wonder this roster is under-performing. Too much drama led by a spiteful head coach who keeps shit going.

Maybe I'm reading impaired, but didn't Zimmer say Diggs has already been punished? I could be wrong.

He says hes already punished but then says he's not sure if he's going to play this weekend. So yeah I agree it's weird the way Zimmer talks out of both sides of his mouth.

It always amazes me how easy it is to whip the masses into a frenzy.

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ORIGINAL: Ragnarök

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/10/04/cfl-quarterback-claims-he-rejected-vikings-offer-because-they-dont-want-a-controversy/


The above guy may have been a nobody, but it is exactly the same reason they cut Sloter... Neither may ever be NFL level QB talent but it screams just how much they want to insulate Kirky...

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

The Bears were favored to win all 4 of their games, 2 home, 2 on the road against bottom feeders. They only won 3 of those games.

The Packers were favored to win 3 of their 4 games, and have won 3.

The Vikes were favored to win 2 games, dogs in 2. Won the 2 they were supposed to win, lost the 2 they were supposed to win.

It's hardly time for the mass bridge jumping we are seeing.

Most people understood that with a new blocking scheme and 3 positions with new starters, the OL would be something of a work in progress until around midseason. It's been good enough against weaker opponents early on. The Vikings should be favored to win the next 4 games. Do that, and we are talking 6-2 after 8 games. And potentially the OL could be rounding into form by then, by the time we roll into KC with a 10 day break people could well be singing a different tune. Who knows, maybe Samia and/or Udoh are contributing by then.

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ORIGINAL: Ragnarök

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/10/04/cfl-quarterback-claims-he-rejected-vikings-offer-because-they-dont-want-a-controversy/


The above guy may have been a nobody, but it is exactly the same reason they cut Sloter... Neither may ever be NFL level QB talent but it screams just how much they want to insulate Kirky...

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

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ORIGINAL: Ragnarök

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/10/04/cfl-quarterback-claims-he-rejected-vikings-offer-because-they-dont-want-a-controversy/


The above guy may have been a nobody, but it is exactly the same reason they cut Sloter... Neither may ever be NFL level QB talent but it screams just how much they want to insulate Kirky...

I missed the part where homeboy made any NFL roster. It may be possible that they didn't sign him because he's not good enough and/or he's delusional.

It is not fact that they cut Sloter to avoid a controversy. While possible, it seems more likely they became disenchanted with his prospects to be a viable starter/back-up; he currently is on the practice squad of one of the NFL's worst franchises, so......But I have to admit I was intrigued by what I saw from a distance of Sloter; it wouldn't be the first time the Vikings were wrong about a prospect.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

Cutting Sloter was short sighted imo.

RS and Zim are only thinking short term. If both are fired at seasons end and the new GM begins his qb search having Sloter on the roster as a candidate would have value.

I know Sloter is only on a PS and could still be signed. But when they cut him there was no guarantee he could still be brought back.

Cousins psyche must be pretty fragile

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Cutting Sloter was short sighted imo.

RS and Zim are only thinking short term. If both are fired at seasons end and the new GM begins his qb search having Sloter on the roster as a candidate would have value.

I know Sloter is only on a PS and could still be signed. But when they cut him there was no guarantee he could still be brought back.

Cousins psyche must be pretty fragile

Sloter earned a shot at playing with the 2nd stringers. Why he was never given a chance is beyond me?

But, why didn't he get picked up to be on a 53? You would think there would be better opportunities than PS for a team(AZ) that already has their QB for the next 12-15 years.

Something about him that doesn't appeal to teams.

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

Cutting Sloter was short sighted imo.

RS and Zim are only thinking short term. If both are fired at seasons end and the new GM begins his qb search having Sloter on the roster as a candidate would have value.

I know Sloter is only on a PS and could still be signed. But when they cut him there was no guarantee he could still be brought back.

Cousins psyche must be pretty fragile

Sloter earned a shot at playing with the 2nd stringers. Why he was never given a chance is beyond me?

But, why didn't he get picked up to be on a 53? You would think there would be better opportunities than PS for a team(AZ) that already has their QB for the next 12-15 years.

Something about him that doesn't appeal to teams.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

Cutting Sloter was short sighted imo.

RS and Zim are only thinking short term. If both are fired at seasons end and the new GM begins his qb search having Sloter on the roster as a candidate would have value.

I know Sloter is only on a PS and could still be signed. But when they cut him there was no guarantee he could still be brought back.

Cousins psyche must be pretty fragile

Sloter earned a shot at playing with the 2nd stringers. Why he was never given a chance is beyond me?

But, why didn't he get picked up to be on a 53? You would think there would be better opportunities than PS for a team(AZ) that already has their QB for the next 12-15 years.

Something about him that doesn't appeal to teams.

Teams were fighting over him when he got released from Denv couple seasons back.

Zim didn't do him any favors critisising him at a presser.

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

Cutting Sloter was short sighted imo.

RS and Zim are only thinking short term. If both are fired at seasons end and the new GM begins his qb search having Sloter on the roster as a candidate would have value.

I know Sloter is only on a PS and could still be signed. But when they cut him there was no guarantee he could still be brought back.

Cousins psyche must be pretty fragile

Sloter earned a shot at playing with the 2nd stringers. Why he was never given a chance is beyond me?

But, why didn't he get picked up to be on a 53? You would think there would be better opportunities than PS for a team(AZ) that already has their QB for the next 12-15 years.

Something about him that doesn't appeal to teams.

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

Cutting Sloter was short sighted imo.

RS and Zim are only thinking short term. If both are fired at seasons end and the new GM begins his qb search having Sloter on the roster as a candidate would have value.

I know Sloter is only on a PS and could still be signed. But when they cut him there was no guarantee he could still be brought back.

Cousins psyche must be pretty fragile

Sloter earned a shot at playing with the 2nd stringers. Why he was never given a chance is beyond me?

But, why didn't he get picked up to be on a 53? You would think there would be better opportunities than PS for a team(AZ) that already has their QB for the next 12-15 years.

Something about him that doesn't appeal to teams.

Too smart? Sloter got 38 on the Wonderlic test, very high. We'll probably never know what the issue is, unless you believe it's truly because he doesn't practice well, watch the time clock, or know how to line players up, like Zimmer indicated.

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

Cutting Sloter was short sighted imo.

RS and Zim are only thinking short term. If both are fired at seasons end and the new GM begins his qb search having Sloter on the roster as a candidate would have value.

I know Sloter is only on a PS and could still be signed. But when they cut him there was no guarantee he could still be brought back.

Cousins psyche must be pretty fragile

Sloter earned a shot at playing with the 2nd stringers. Why he was never given a chance is beyond me?

But, why didn't he get picked up to be on a 53? You would think there would be better opportunities than PS for a team(AZ) that already has their QB for the next 12-15 years.

Something about him that doesn't appeal to teams.

It's not very often that an unproven QB gets picked up as a teams backup QB and put on a teams 53 man roster, as the new team already is likely set with their starter and backup, rarely to teams carry 3 QBs on their 53 man roster, and the new QB has no familiarity and time with the new teams roster/system, and can not serve as the teams backup at that point in time.

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The Bears were favored to win all 4 of their games, 2 home, 2 on the road against bottom feeders. They only won 3 of those games.

The Packers were favored to win 3 of their 4 games, and have won 3.

The Vikes were favored to win 2 games, dogs in 2. Won the 2 they were supposed to win, lost the 2 they were supposed to win.

It's hardly time for the mass bridge jumping we are seeing.

Most people understood that with a new blocking scheme and 3 positions with new starters, the OL would be something of a work in progress until around midseason. It's been good enough against weaker opponents early on. The Vikings should be favored to win the next 4 games. Do that, and we are talking 6-2 after 8 games. And potentially the OL could be rounding into form by then, by the time we roll into KC with a 10 day break people could well be singing a different tune. Who knows, maybe Samia and/or Udoh are contributing by then.

If we continue to just meet Vegas expectations, we will be mediocre. You get that, right?

Personally, I don't think we are as good as we looked vs. Atlanta, and I don't think we are as bad as we looked at Chicago.

Just based on personnel, we are good enough to destroy bad teams. Our football philosophy will always hold us back against good teams.

Rudolph should not even be on a NFL roster. Who is our #3 WR? Are you kidding me? You need more than two.

Josh Reynolds replaces the injured Kupp last season. How did he look? And since I'm speaking of the Rams, how much better are Everett and Higbee than Rudolph? And, prior to last night, the Rams don't throw much to the TE's.

If you don't have a multitude of players that can tax a secondary, you're behind the curve.
As much as you wish it to be, we are not going to run and stop the run to the Super Bowl.

It's also really embarrassing that we called a timeout when the Bears were trying to take a penalty and punt. I expect a NFL HC should be more aware of the situation and rules.

Zimmer is not what you think he is. He reminds me so much of Leslie Frazier, except Zimmer is a "tough guy" and Frazier was a "nice guy".

We will destroy the Giants. They are NOT good. It took them five years too long to find out Manning sucks. Who wants to bench a Manning?

We can get shit right Sunday, if Zimmer lets us. Beat 'em. Run on them, pass on them, blow them out. Don't sit on your stupid one score lead. Let the players shine. They need it. Let 'em have some fun and just beat the shit outta' somebody.

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ORIGINAL: jbusse

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

Cutting Sloter was short sighted imo.

RS and Zim are only thinking short term. If both are fired at seasons end and the new GM begins his qb search having Sloter on the roster as a candidate would have value.

I know Sloter is only on a PS and could still be signed. But when they cut him there was no guarantee he could still be brought back.

Cousins psyche must be pretty fragile

Sloter earned a shot at playing with the 2nd stringers. Why he was never given a chance is beyond me?

But, why didn't he get picked up to be on a 53? You would think there would be better opportunities than PS for a team(AZ) that already has their QB for the next 12-15 years.

Something about him that doesn't appeal to teams.

Too smart? Sloter got 38 on the Wonderlic test, very high. We'll probably never know what the issue is, unless you believe it's truly because he doesn't practice well, watch the time clock, or know how to line players up, like Zimmer indicated.

There are some awful 2nd stringers in the league. They must have the art of brown nosing down.

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ORIGINAL: Ragnarök

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/10/04/cfl-quarterback-claims-he-rejected-vikings-offer-because-they-dont-want-a-controversy/


The above guy may have been a nobody, but it is exactly the same reason they cut Sloter... Neither may ever be NFL level QB talent but it screams just how much they want to insulate Kirky...

I was just reading this story as you posted it.

I was thinking about Sloter too.

Mannion obviously knows how to play the game...

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ORIGINAL: Dave Odle

So here's my main question. How do you replace Zimmer and not go backwards on defense? If we we fire him, we are truly stepping into the unknown. I agree that he is a very one-dimensional coach; basically a promoted defensive coordinator that never grew into a good head coach. Still, the devil you know.

Then again, we could probably poach a proven defensive mind at the end of a contract (Wade Phillips comes to mind) and then shoot for a younger, more open mind as head coach.

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If new coach brings in his own DC he may want to bring in new pieces to implement what he emphasizes.

ie.. Wade Phillips runs a 3-4

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I would really like to know who HAD to keep Kyle Rudolph on the team this year?

Is Rudy a Zimmer guy? Was it Zimmer or Spiels who didnt want to let him walk and pulled the trigger to keep him here?

Kyle Rudolph, who for around $9M this year has five receptions for 32 yards?

Seems Rudy and Cousins do not have a great off field relationship so one has to wonder why he was such a target to return when we had just drafted his successor as well. Plus the regime and coaching had to have been brewing plans for their run heavy 70s style offense that has diminished all the receivers 2019 returns.

As well there was all that smoke after camp that Kirk was so on page and now ready to "trust" Rudolph this year compared to last...

Vikings quarterback Kirk Cousins says he's gaining more confidence in his offense and Rudolph as he has progressed since last season in building a rapport with him.
“The more you do it, the more you see it, and the more you realize that’s a strength of his. I guess I look back and regret a little bit not doing that more with him last year, and then, hopefully looking forward to giving him more opportunities to make you right, when everything within you is telling you, ‘He’s really not open, but let’s give him a shot.’ ”


In hindsight just another head scratcher why we didnt move on and use the cap space in more appropriate team needs..