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ORIGINAL: Don T in CO

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ORIGINAL: Don T in CO

I'd call WAS when our pick is approaching and say, "Hey, we've got a couple of OTs targeted with our upcoming pick. Last chance to make a deal with us. You can take Reiff and a 6th round pick, Ant Harris straight up, or you can take our pick #132 (late 4th). And, you say what?"

After the 2nd round nobody believes we are going to draft an OT and start him day 1.

I like it!
Use the leverage while you've got it man!!

If we try to stick it to them too much they will just say F U. This should be a simple deal to get done without trying to humiliate them to save a round on the draft pick. Make the trade and it's win/win. Don't make it and it's lose/lose.

We don't owe WAS anything. From all accounts I've ready, Trent Williams would rather sit out the rest of his contract than play for WAS again and the market has pretty much dried-up for teams looking for a LT - especially one with a large contract, in his 30s, and who has had several injuries in the past. We'd be doing WAS a favor to take him off their hands. And, we COULD take a LT in the 2nd round and we do have Reiff to fall back on. We have all the leverage - except for TWill's (oh no, another TWill!) large cap number which would require that we include Reiff or Ant Harris in the trade (or have to let one of them go/find a trade partner if WAS isn't interested in them). Let WAS come begging to us - we don't have to give up a 3rd and Rick knows it.

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

#Vikings GM Rick Spielman to me on the phone: 'We're trying to be as aggressive as we can tonight because of the amount of capital we have..If there are players still there..in the upper echelon of the 2nd/3rd round..once we finalize our game plan that's a definite possibility."

(Josina Anderson on Twitter)

And another tweet from the same source:

W/ Trent Williams still not traded after 1st round, I asked the #Vikings GM, if that's led him to re-engage on talks w/ Wash. He said, "this morning I've spent most of my time assessing what's left on the Draft board." On if that means he won't he said, "I would never say never."

And one more:

#Skins VP of Player Personnel Kyle Smith on the latest w/ Trent Williams:: "We're just working through it...something could happen in 5 min, it could happen tomorrow, it might not happen in the next few days. It's just something we're trying to work through & cont making calls."

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If this trade doesn't get made both teams are losers. It makes too much sense to not get made. Only reason this trade won't get made is if there are fools negotiating it on one or both sides.

That sounds like the logical equivalent of: if you do not agree with my opinion, you are a fool.

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ORIGINAL: Don T in CO

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: kevinemmer

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ORIGINAL: Don T in CO

I'd call WAS when our pick is approaching and say, "Hey, we've got a couple of OTs targeted with our upcoming pick. Last chance to make a deal with us. You can take Reiff and a 6th round pick, Ant Harris straight up, or you can take our pick #132 (late 4th). And, you say what?"

After the 2nd round nobody believes we are going to draft an OT and start him day 1.

I like it!
Use the leverage while you've got it man!!

If we try to stick it to them too much they will just say F U. This should be a simple deal to get done without trying to humiliate them to save a round on the draft pick. Make the trade and it's win/win. Don't make it and it's lose/lose.

We don't owe WAS anything. From all accounts I've ready, Trent Williams would rather sit out the rest of his contract than play for WAS again and the market has pretty much dried-up for teams looking for a LT - especially one with a large contract, in his 30s, and who has had several injuries in the past. We'd be doing WAS a favor to take him off their hands. And, we COULD take a LT in the 2nd round and we do have Reiff to fall back on. We have all the leverage - except for TWill's (oh no, another TWill!) large cap number which would require that we include Reiff or Ant Harris in the trade (or have to let one of them go/find a trade partner if WAS isn't interested in them). Let WAS come begging to us - we don't have to give up a 3rd and Rick knows it.

I do agree ... Spielman is fairly shrewd making deals on the fly. He's like that weak armed QB that won't make a lot of great plays but at least won't lose the game for you.

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

Some league scuttlebutt that if the #Vikings or others want OL Ezra Cleveland, someone MN has done a lot of work on, they need to jump Jacksonville. The Jags pick 42 tonight.

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ORIGINAL: Don T in CO

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ORIGINAL: Don T in CO

I'd call WAS when our pick is approaching and say, "Hey, we've got a couple of OTs targeted with our upcoming pick. Last chance to make a deal with us. You can take Reiff and a 6th round pick, Ant Harris straight up, or you can take our pick #132 (late 4th). And, you say what?"

After the 2nd round nobody believes we are going to draft an OT and start him day 1.

I like it!
Use the leverage while you've got it man!!

If we try to stick it to them too much they will just say F U. This should be a simple deal to get done without trying to humiliate them to save a round on the draft pick. Make the trade and it's win/win. Don't make it and it's lose/lose.

We don't owe WAS anything. From all accounts I've ready, Trent Williams would rather sit out the rest of his contract than play for WAS again and the market has pretty much dried-up for teams looking for a LT - especially one with a large contract, in his 30s, and who has had several injuries in the past. We'd be doing WAS a favor to take him off their hands. And, we COULD take a LT in the 2nd round and we do have Reiff to fall back on. We have all the leverage - except for TWill's (oh no, another TWill!) large cap number which would require that we include Reiff or Ant Harris in the trade (or have to let one of them go/find a trade partner if WAS isn't interested in them). Let WAS come begging to us - we don't have to give up a 3rd and Rick knows it.

I do agree ... Spielman is fairly shrewd making deals on the fly. He's like that weak armed QB that won't make a lot of great plays but at least won't lose the game for you.

We should want a good deal, but if we hold out for too good of a deal I am pretty sure it will blow up.

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GZUZ we have a FILTHY ton of picks. Until I laid it out for myself, it hadn't sunk in.

There's no way we are not getting a Williams deal unless they are refusing Reiff [shocker] and we won't do it without including him.

There's no way we are not moving up in the second and third rds ... I am desperately hoping we can trade up for ANOTHER second rd pick.

SECOND
#58

THIRD
#89
#105

FOURTH
#117
#132

FIFTH
#155
#176 (unless your last name rhymes with Johanesen, then this is a premature 6th rounder)

SIXTH
#201
#205

SEVENTH
#219
#249
#253

LOL! I was just wondering if the correct strategy would be to load up on players with rookie contracts one year before the salary cap goes down due to the virus. I'm not saying I would do it, but I wonder if that would be the shrewdest.

Well as Hats4Bats has pointed out ( I would never concede LOL directly to him DURING an argument but as a sidebar I do agree) we have a lot of young untested guys we have been developing ... how many more can we stir into that developmental stew?

I would rather expend all the late picks for two 2s, two 3s and a 4 – much better than 12 picks strewn about day 2-3.

Target and pay UDFAs as your late rd picks IF YOU MUST HAVE SOME ... we have as much luck with them as 6-7 rounders anyway.

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

Some league scuttlebutt that if the #Vikings or others want OL Ezra Cleveland, someone MN has done a lot of work on, they need to jump Jacksonville. The Jags pick 42 tonight.

Cinci might take Jones or Cleveland at 33.

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

GZUZ we have a FILTHY ton of picks. Until I laid it out for myself, it hadn't sunk in.

There's no way we are not getting a Williams deal unless they are refusing Reiff [shocker] and we won't do it without including him.

There's no way we are not moving up in the second and third rds ... I am desperately hoping we can trade up for ANOTHER second rd pick.

LOL! I was just wondering if the correct strategy would be to load up on players with rookie contracts one year before the salary cap goes down due to the virus. I'm not saying I would do it, but I wonder if that would be the shrewdest.

Well as Hats4Bats has pointed out ( I would never concede LOL directly to him DURING an argument but as a sidebar I do agree) we have a lot of young untested guys we have been developing ... how many more can we stir into that developmental stew?

I would rather expend all the late picks for two 2s, two 3s and a 4 – much better than 12 picks strewn about day 2-3.

Target and pay UDFAs as your late rd picks IF YOU MUST HAVE SOME ... we have as much luck with them as 6-7 rounders anyway.

Tom..Agree to AGREE

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Tunsil just got 22M per year.

Is our plan to pay Williams 16 pls and probably ONeil in the same range when they extend him? We'd be looking at Cousins at 33M, 32M on Tackles, Thielan at 15M. 80 million for 4 players?

I don't think Williams is worth it and hope it doesn't happen.

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ORIGINAL: Pager

Tunsil just got 22M per year.

Is our plan to pay Williams 16 pls and probably ONeil in the same range when they extend him? We'd be looking at Cousins at 33M, 32M on Tackles, Thielan at 15M. 80 million for 4 players?

I don't think Williams is worth it and hope it doesn't happen.

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ORIGINAL: Don T in CO

I'd call WAS when our pick is approaching and say, "Hey, we've got a couple of OTs targeted with our upcoming pick. Last chance to make a deal with us. You can take Reiff and a 6th round pick, Ant Harris straight up, or you can take our pick #132 (late 4th). And, you say what?"

After the 2nd round nobody believes we are going to draft an OT and start him day 1.

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If we trade for Williams we could restructure Reiff and move him to G. If not, grab a couple in later rounds. We NEED more CB’s. Hughes has not made it through a full season injury-wise and Hill is one toke away from a season long suspension. We could also use another WR as we were still missing that 3rd guy last year before we traded Diggs so, while he has been replaced, we are still thin at that position IMO.

Hill is not one toke away from a season long suspension. New CBA took care of that. Sign Kirkpatrick to a cheap deal after the draft. Pick a developmental guy later in the draft and I think we are good with Gladney/Hill/Hughes/Boyd/Kirkpatrick/Developmental guy. Kirkpatrick also a connection to the Vikes DB coach.

I like the idea of OLine/DT and the best of Shinn (S), burner WR in the second and third rounds.

Go get em!

EDIT: Not only good but a big upgrade over last year's CB group.

Actually, his second suspension was for PED’s if I remember correctly (I’m getting old so could be wrong). I still believe he is out for a season for another violation not marijuana related. He was also suspended numerous times in college. He is hardly a sure thing to stay on the straight and narrow. I’d spend another high pick on a CB if I was making the call.

He has now stayed clean for a full year. The CBA has much longer intervals for testing now . IMO the risk has gone way down and fitzpatrick would be the insurance policy. To me Hughe's health is the bigger ? mark.

I'm glad you're not drafting - I'd rather see other holes be filled than another high pick on a CB

You’ve lost 3 starting CB’s (Rhodes, Waynes and Alexander). You have replaced them with 1 so far (2 if they sign Fitzpatrick....if). Hughes has been injury prone, Hill has been clean a year as you say but is veeeery unproven and Gladney (I love the pick) is still a rookie. CB depth is still a huge hole.

I’m not against filling the other holes we have, I’m just saying that this is our weakest position based on our projected starters. You can make an argument for oline but we are returning 4 of our 5 starters at this point. We are returning 0 of 3 at CB. What do you do if one of the projected 3 starters gets hurt? We don’t even know who our 4th CB (who would play a lot) is at this point. I don’t think it’s crazy to grab another CB at some point tonight. Especially if we trade Trent Williams which is what my original post took into consideration.

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It was fun to see the basement of a person who makes $40 million a year (Goodell). Belichick's war room was hard to beat:

https://kubrick.htvapps.com/htv-prod-media.s3.amazonaws.com/images/patriots-head-coach-bill-belichick-nfl-draft-war-room-nantucket-1587699182.jpg?resize=660:*

I was surprised how dated most of the coaches and GM's homes were.

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Gladney is the third ranked corner at NFL.com

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/jeff-gladney?id=3219474c-4123-3268-ddee-2301ab56da44

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The 2020 NFL Draft wasn't just the first virtual draft in league history, it was also the most-viewed first round ever.

The league announced Friday that Thursday's opening round -- which featured NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell announcing picks from his home in Westchester County, N.Y. -- shattered the all-time draft viewership record. More than 15.6 million viewers on average tuned in across NFL Network, ABC, ESPN, ESPN Deportes and various digital channels to surpass the previous record of 12.4 million from the 2014 NFL Draft.

The average audience represented a 37 percent increase from last year's draft (11.4 million) and peaked with 19.6 million viewers from 8:45 p.m. to 9 p.m. ET.

The 2020 NFL "Draft-A-Thon" also topped 7 million across various digital and social channels.

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The 2020 NFL Draft wasn't just the first virtual draft in league history, it was also the most-viewed first round ever.

The league announced Friday that Thursday's opening round -- which featured NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell announcing picks from his home in Westchester County, N.Y. -- shattered the all-time draft viewership record. More than 15.6 million viewers on average tuned in across NFL Network, ABC, ESPN, ESPN Deportes and various digital channels to surpass the previous record of 12.4 million from the 2014 NFL Draft.

The average audience represented a 37 percent increase from last year's draft (11.4 million) and peaked with 19.6 million viewers from 8:45 p.m. to 9 p.m. ET.

The 2020 NFL "Draft-A-Thon" also topped 7 million across various digital and social channels.

Imagine if it was like...good.