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RE: Idle Talk - 5th Chapter - 1/13/2023 1:33:20 PM   
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Denny Hocking's daughter was the 7th overall pick of the NWSL in their draft today.

What's that?

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RE: Idle Talk - 5th Chapter - 1/13/2023 3:13:54 PM   
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Denny Hocking's daughter was the 7th overall pick of the NWSL in their draft today.

What's that?



Soccer

Penelope Hocking

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RE: Idle Talk - 5th Chapter - 1/27/2023 9:02:33 AM   
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A sad day in the world of college basketball. Legendary broadcaster Billy Packer has passed away at the age of 82.

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RE: Idle Talk - 5th Chapter - 2/7/2023 5:10:12 PM   
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Happy birthday, Ed!

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RE: Idle Talk - 5th Chapter - 2/7/2023 5:21:17 PM   
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RE: Idle Talk - 5th Chapter - 2/7/2023 6:02:28 PM   
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Happy Birthday Ed. 🎂 I hate that the birthdays are stuck at the bottom of the forum. I never notice them.

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RE: Idle Talk - 5th Chapter - 2/8/2023 10:26:35 AM   
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Watch these.

https://bringmethenews.com/minnesota-sports/watch-2-epic-buzzer-beaters-in-minnesota-high-school-basketball-tuesday-night



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RE: Idle Talk - 5th Chapter - 2/9/2023 10:50:33 AM   
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Watch this.

https://www.thebiglead.com/posts/njcu-rowan-video-finish-two-3-pointers-five-seconds-01grt73v9pww#:~:text=Just%20when%20we%20thought%20we%27d%20seen%20every%20possible,was%20leading%20NJCU%2071-67%20with%205.2%20to%20go.



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RE: Idle Talk - 5th Chapter - 2/9/2023 2:30:40 PM   
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Watch this.

https://www.thebiglead.com/posts/njcu-rowan-video-finish-two-3-pointers-five-seconds-01grt73v9pww#:~:text=Just%20when%20we%20thought%20we%27d%20seen%20every%20possible,was%20leading%20NJCU%2071-67%20with%205.2%20to%20go.





Announcer went back to puberty, lol

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RE: Idle Talk - 5th Chapter - 2/16/2023 9:49:19 AM   
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It was a fun Power Trip Morning Show today on KFAN. Cory is in an especially good mood. I think this week has proven that Hawkey is the one that's dragging this show down. I'm not saying Zach is "the answer," because he's not contributing much. But the combination of Leber and Rosen more than fill Hawkey's spot with Cory and Sauce. Not sure Rosen can bring it every day, and obviously he's never going to show up before 7:00...but the producer doesn't necessarily need to be talking all the time like Hawkey does. Zach is pretty good at pushing buttons, and that works just fine. Just seems like the guys are coming out of their shells more this week with Hawkey gone. I think he is an intimidator. I could see Maxx stepping up as the 3rd wheel, with Zach pushing buttons. Hawkey is at that age where the budget people may think he's too expensive, although I doubt he gets paid anywhere near what Cory brings in. We saw it with Mr. Phunn and Hartman...when they want to cut costs, it's often the most experienced ones that get the pink slip. I'd rather Hawkey went out on his own terms. He has brought a lot to the station...I'd say overall he was the glue that carried the show to the high ratings and popularity they have. But his attitude has noticeably changed the last 3-4 years. It's probably not pandemic-related. It seems like it might be an age thing. He's realizing his music career is not going to be in the first paragraph of his obituary. He is forever going to be known, if he's known at all, as a radio lifer. That's disappointing to a guy like Hawkey that had big dreams of being a rock or country music star. Hence, with his unhappiness, he has reunited with Rocket Club, because that was as close as he came to making an impact on the national music scene. It's one last chance for him to live the life he wanted to live. Nothing makes him happier than music and being on stage, and the grind of waking up every morning to do a "stupid" radio show is at this point an admission of failure in his eyes, so he takes his frustrations out on his coworkers, in particular the younger guys that seem to be content with being a single spoke in the wheel of a "stupid" radio show.

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RE: Idle Talk - 5th Chapter - 3/11/2023 11:27:58 AM   
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RIP Bud Grant

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RE: Idle Talk - 5th Chapter - 3/13/2023 10:51:48 AM   
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Bud Grant was also good in Baseball; RIP Bud:



Bernice Grant found her son, Bud, upstairs in their Superior, Wisconsin, home. Three gentlemen had knocked on the front door looking for him. Bernice wondered what her son had done the day before.

The time was 7 a.m. and the three men were dressed in overalls. Cow farmers.

“I thought I was going to get arrested for something. But it was three guys in bib overalls. They had driven up from a small dairy town, Ridgeland. You can’t get there from here. It’s that small. It’s in central Wisconsin. They had a good baseball team. Good tradition of baseball. They had seen me pitch and they came all the way to ask if I would pitch for them,” Grant remembered.

Grant, a hired gun on the mound, pitched 10 times over four years for Ridgeland. He won nine times. Offered $50 a game, Grant doubled that, offering to take nothing if the team lost.

“No one was getting $100 a game. And here I made $900 in 10 games,” Grant said.

Grant is most known as the former Minnesota Vikings head coach for 18 seasons, leading the team to four Super Bowl appearances, 11 division titles, one league championship, and three NFC conference championships.

He finished with 283 career wins between 10 seasons as head coach of the Winnipeg Blue Bombers of the Canadian Football League and the NFL; third-most ever behind Don Shula and George Halas.

Grant also had a two-year stint as a professional basketball player with the Minneapolis Lakers and was a three-sport athlete at the University of Minnesota.

“I had summers off, so I played baseball. Those were the times of no TV. Sunday afternoon was picnic time. Grandstands were full in every town. I made more money playing baseball than I did playing with the World Champion Minneapolis Lakers for a year,” Grant said.

Grant’s final game with Ridgeland was a night game at Rice Lake. At this time, many ball fields were adding lights to be able to host night games to complement Sunday afternoon contests. Grant lost count how many times he was asked to pitch in these lighting ceremonial games.

On this night in Rice Lake, the town had two other special guests, Halsey Hall and Cedric Adams from WCCO Radio. Grant said the game was halted at one point in the sixth or seventh inning to allow for the two gentlemen to broadcast the news.

Here was the catch. Grant had already pitched nine innings in a playoff game for Gordon, Wisconsin, that afternoon.

“I get done pitching, take a shower, and then I drove to Rice Lake for the night game. I pitched two games in one day. I remember Halsey saying something like ‘I’ve never seen a guy throw so many change-ups and get the win,’” Grant said. “I never came out of a game. All those rocks I threw as a kid. I could throw all day. It wasn’t as fast as the innings went on, but luckily I had good accuracy and could always throw strikes.”

MAKING HIS NAME
Baseball was something everyone played in the 1940s. All it took was a bat and a ball. Grant, like many boys at the time, gravitated through the sport at a young age.

Grant fondly remembers all the games of catch. He just needed two other guys for a game of pepper.

“Whatever you could do with a baseball, we did it. We’d organize ourselves. I’d call a buddy across town and we’d pick a day or night and each of us would come up with nine guys to make a team,” Grant said.

American Legion was the organization anyone under 18 years of age played in. Grant was on the Superior squad, with frequent trips across the state border to Duluth and Two Harbors.

Grant was selected to play in a Legion Baseball All-Star Game in Chicago when he was 16 years old. An East versus West match-up with the Mississippi River the dividing line.

“I had barely been out of town, probably no more than 30 miles, and all of sudden I’ve been selected to go to Chicago. My folks had barely been out of town, too. I slept in a berth (a bunk on a train car) with my mom to get there. My dad stayed up all night. I got to play at Comiskey Park,” Grant said.

A pitcher, Grant said players went through three days of tryouts to see who would start in the game. He eventually won the job, but after firing around 30 innings in the tryouts, he was limited to three innings in the All-Star Game.

“From that point on I wanted to be a hitter, where I would get to play nine innings. When I wasn’t pitching, I could still play center field and hit,” Grant said.

The highlight of the trip?

“I got to stay in a hotel for the first time. I’m taking a shower in a tub for the first time. I didn’t know to put the curtain in the tub. All of a sudden there’s a knock on the door; water was running out,” laughed Grant. “Baseball was bigger then than it has been ever since. And here I was in Chicago. Do you know how big Chicago felt to a kid like me? Pretty big.”

Grant recalled hitting a ball over the fence at Comiskey in batting practice.

When Legion baseball was done, players then transitioned onto town teams.

“Baseball was the No. 1 sport in the country. It was No. 1 for many, many years. I have 4- or 5-year-old great-grandkids that understand baseball. You hit the ball, you run to the base, you run all the way around,” Grant said. “Every town had a baseball team.

After being in service for one year in the Navy — much of that spent at Great Lakes Naval Academy in Illinois, playing sports — Grant moved on to the University of Minnesota, where he played football, basketball and baseball.

But it was that one year in the service where Grant learned more than any other time in his life.


“I learned my status, I learned my place, how to get along with people. You know, living with 160 guys in barracks, you have to figure how to get along. I went into the service the day after I turned 18 and I came out 24,” Grant said.

HIRED ARM
It was during his time at the University when Grant began pitching for teams — yes, teams.

With summers off from Gopher teams, Grant took the opportunity to make some money by pitching for teams.

He remembers signing an actual contract with Osceola in western Wisconsin. One time he was brought on to pitch in Maple Lake. With no transportation, Grant’s services required a car escort to and from ballparks.

“My girlfriend (Pat) and I (they would later marry), they picked us up and drove us to the game in Maple Lake. Well, after the game, I go to look for the ride back and the driver wasn’t around. There was some sort of family emergency. No one else could drive us home, so they bused us to St. Cloud and then to downtown Minneapolis where we could take a streetcar home. I didn’t drop Pat off until after 2 a.m. I bet. Her mom was not too happy. It almost ended our relationship. Her mom didn’t think it was a very likely story. Safe to say, I never went back to Maple Lake,” Grant said.

Grant played for many teams throughout Minnesota and Wisconsin. Scorebook records found in a museum a few years back in the town of Gordon show Grant had a record of 60-2 over four years.

Grant remembered his second loss with Gordon vividly. It came in International Falls; a team full of contract players working in the pulp mill. After a Saturday evening game, the Gordon players and fans — a burger or gas fill-up were not available back in town because everyone made the trip to follow the team — indulged just a bit too much.

“We lost 2-1 or 1-0. The shortstop made an error that cost us the game. They partied all night. I was playing with a bunch of Wisconsin guys. What could you expect?” Grant said.

Another time with Ridgeland, neighboring Prairie Farm brought in their own hired arm, a pitcher from the Minneapolis Millers, a minor league professional team in the American Association.

“We were up 6-0 in the fourth or fifth inning. They couldn’t hit. Or at least I was better than them. And they fired their pitcher. The crowd was a hooting and a hollering. They were yelling to get rid of him. Don’t pay him. They were crazy, Grant said.

“But that’s what town ball meant to these communities. Town ball was your identity,” he added.

That’s why when Grant played in Chaska one time, a league game with Hastings, he remembers coming away impressed.

“Chaska was the shrine. They had a nice ball park. Fenced in field, nice grandstand. I played there. I remember being impressed. How it was kept up. It was really a showplace for a town ball game. Still is today. I’ve been back a couple of times for my own kids. It’s the best town ball stadium in the state. And I’ve been in every town in this state,” Grant said.

LIFE’S DECISIONS
A first-round draft pick of the Philadelphia Eagles of the National Football League, and fourth-round pick of the Minneapolis Lakers in professional basketball, baseball became third fiddle for Grant.

He remained in the game, but never considered anything more than being a hired arm on summer nights.

After college, Grant played two seasons of professional basketball with the Minneapolis Lakers, signed by close personal friend, Sid Hartman. He was a part of the 1950 world champion team with George Mikan and Vern Mikkelsen.

He left basketball, signing with Philadelphia in 1951. A defensive end one season, leading the league in sacks, Grant switched to receiver in his second year, and was second in the league in yards with 997 and seven touchdowns.

A contract dispute sent Grant packing for the Winnipeg Blue Bombers of the Canadian Football League where he continued his success as an offensive end, leading the league in pass receptions in three of four years. He also recorded five interceptions in a playoff game in 1953.

At the age of 30, Grant shifted from player to coach. He would lead Winnipeg to four Grey Cup championships in a decade before moving back to Minnesota where he led the Vikings from 1967 to 1983, and again in 1985. At the time of his retirement, he had the eighth-most career NFL coaching wins with 166.

Grant was inducted into the NFL Hall of Fame in 2004.

ONE MORE TIME
Before taking the job in Winnipeg, Grant said he was able to pitch one more time. With the car packed up, a boat used as storage, four kids, his wife and two dogs in tow, Grant took the mound for league champion Hastings on a Sunday.

“I told Bob McNamara and his brother Pinky (Gopher football greats), who were running the team, I could stick around. They offered me $50. I said, well, I could stay around maybe for a $100. They laughed. They came up with something for me to get me to stay and pitch against this all-star team,” Grant said.

Grant and Hastings won the game. Grant, though not his best on the mound, came through a with a home run in the seventh inning, saving more heroics for the ninth. With two outs, down a run, Grant found an outside pitch to his liking, hitting the ball over the short right-field fence for a walk-off winner.

His last at-bat. His last game.

And by Monday morning he was in Winnipeg, the start of 28 seasons as a head football coach.

“Of all of the sports I belonged in, pro football to pro basketball, town ball was the most fun sporting activity I think I’ve ever done,” Grant said.

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RE: Idle Talk - 5th Chapter - 3/13/2023 12:02:52 PM   
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Nice article about Bud Grant. I had the opportunity to meet him several times, and Grant was always gracious and totally down to earth. The entire time he was coaching the Vikings (and for the rest of his life) his family lived in a modest rambler about a mile from my own house in Bloomington. Their kids went to public school, and it was because of that that I saw a lot of Bud Grant during his heyday as the Viking's head coach. Grant's kids went to my high school and played in several sports (of course). Famous as he was, Bud was at all of our football and basketball games, because he was just another dad cheering for his kids from the stands.

It was kind of cool when fans from the visiting teams would look in the stands and ask - "Is that Bud Grant?"

"Yep. And he cheering for our team."

People didn't pester him for autographs in those circumstances. We were used to seeing him all the time. He was just another parent, and his kids were usually some of the better players.

I also went to one of his infamous garage sales at his house, and he would just sit in a chair and chat up everyone who came to the sale.

Such a cool guy, and a Minnesota icon. He'll be greatly missed.

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RE: Idle Talk - 5th Chapter - 3/31/2023 7:30:40 AM   
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We just came back from a 12 day trip to Egypt. I rarely had wi-fi, but I did manage to post here a couple of times from the leisure of our cruise boat on the Nile.




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RE: Idle Talk - 5th Chapter - 3/31/2023 7:31:55 AM   
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For some reason it would only let me post one picture at a time. Let me try another one.



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RE: Idle Talk - 5th Chapter - 3/31/2023 7:33:16 AM   
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Definitely a trip of a lifetime, and one I had been dreaming about since I was a kid.




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RE: Idle Talk - 5th Chapter - 3/31/2023 8:05:17 AM   
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I am also fascinated by the pyramids....I was amazed by the pyramids just 60 miles south of Mexico City that I was able to see. The pyramids of the Sun and Moon (built in 200 AD).

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RE: Idle Talk - 5th Chapter - 3/31/2023 11:26:44 AM   
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The engineering required is astounding, and when you think about the kinds of tools and environment they had to work in, huge respect.

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RE: Idle Talk - 5th Chapter - 3/31/2023 12:11:33 PM   
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Cool Lynn, thanks for sharing.

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RE: Idle Talk - 5th Chapter - 3/31/2023 12:15:46 PM   
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Nice! We want to go to Egypt too, but it doesn't seem safe. If you think the political unrest here is bad.......

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RE: Idle Talk - 5th Chapter - 5/11/2023 5:29:06 PM   
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Spent a number of posts talking about my daughter in the past

2 years have come and gone

Graduation at Iowa Lakes CC Friday

On to Augsburg to play softball and study Social work

Wound up 2nd team all region this year. Was in a slump, dug herself out and wound up propelling them to the region finals. Came up short and just missed hitting 400 for the year.

also 4.0 (likely, or just missed), graduating with honors and probably Academic All American

Most important, she grew up a ton and figured out who she is and what she wants to do.

Super impressed by her maturity. Has carried onto the field and made an impact.

Congrats Olivia (Liv) !! Dad's proud of you!



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RE: Idle Talk - 5th Chapter - 5/11/2023 5:59:09 PM   
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That's awesome Ed!

I had forgotten how much I missed your updates.
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RE: Idle Talk - 5th Chapter - 5/11/2023 6:41:10 PM   
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That's awesome Ed!

I had forgotten how much I missed your updates.


didn't play much last year, behind a d2 (this year) firstbaseman/hitter/pitcher

topped out at 426

Finished 396

Worked a lot to get there. Has a great work ethic and desire to keep playing. Six of the 9 sophomore are playing next year as well at 4 year schools

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RE: Idle Talk - 5th Chapter - 5/11/2023 10:46:07 PM   
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Spent a number of posts talking about my daughter in the past

2 years have come and gone

Graduation at Iowa Lakes CC Friday

On to Augsburg to play softball and study Social work

Wound up 2nd team all region this year. Was in a slump, dug herself out and wound up propelling them to the region finals. Came up short and just missed hitting 400 for the year.

also 4.0 (likely, or just missed), graduating with honors and probably Academic All American

Most important, she grew up a ton and figured out who she is and what she wants to do.

Super impressed by her maturity. Has carried onto the field and made an impact.

Congrats Olivia (Liv) !! Dad's proud of you!



Wonderful news! Thanks for the update!!

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RE: Idle Talk - 5th Chapter - 5/12/2023 5:52:30 AM   
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That's great news Ed. I think you should buy her a dog.

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