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RE: Wild 2021/2022 Season - 3/21/2022 12:08:00 PM   
Jeff Jesser


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My God, apparently Billy G was locked in on the Panther's broadcast this weekend and didn't pay attention to Kevin Weeks when he said that Fluery had to be talked out of retirement to join the Hawks because he was tired of moving his family. Guy is done and we may have to burn a first rounder. Unreal.


If he's part of the reason we make it to the WCF, is it still burning a 1st rounder?



He wouldn't be the reason if we made it that far. Don't let his past "success" fool you.
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RE: Wild 2021/2022 Season - 3/21/2022 12:08:52 PM   
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My God, apparently Billy G was locked in on the Panther's broadcast this weekend and didn't pay attention to Kevin Weeks when he said that Fluery had to be talked out of retirement to join the Hawks because he was tired of moving his family. Guy is done and we may have to burn a first rounder. Unreal.


Russo says we may have 3 2nds this coming year. One is compensation for not signing the first round pick in 2018.

I think he has to do it as Talbot and Kappo just weren't getting it done.



the whole team wasn't getting it done. Talbot has been good again recently.
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RE: Wild 2021/2022 Season - 3/21/2022 12:10:43 PM   
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Fleury WAS one of the greatest playoff goalies ever.



Exactly! And, I'm not sure I even agree with that. I've posted my thoughts on him over the years. First ballot HOF'er that gets chased every time we play him. Was in Pittsburgh, winning trophies, on one of the best dynasties of all time. Was it him???????????
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RE: Wild 2021/2022 Season - 3/21/2022 12:12:02 PM   
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My God, apparently Billy G was locked in on the Panther's broadcast this weekend and didn't pay attention to Kevin Weeks when he said that Fluery had to be talked out of retirement to join the Hawks because he was tired of moving his family. Guy is done and we may have to burn a first rounder. Unreal.


If he's part of the reason we make it to the WCF, is it still burning a 1st rounder?



He wouldn't be the reason if we made it that far. Don't let his past "success" fool you.


You're missing the context.

The only way he costs us a 1st round pick is if we make the WCF and he has 4 wins on the way there.
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RE: Wild 2021/2022 Season - 3/21/2022 12:12:28 PM   
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RE: Wild 2021/2022 Season - 3/21/2022 12:14:55 PM   
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My God, apparently Billy G was locked in on the Panther's broadcast this weekend and didn't pay attention to Kevin Weeks when he said that Fluery had to be talked out of retirement to join the Hawks because he was tired of moving his family. Guy is done and we may have to burn a first rounder. Unreal.


If he's part of the reason we make it to the WCF, is it still burning a 1st rounder?



He wouldn't be the reason if we made it that far. Don't let his past "success" fool you.


You're missing the context.

The only way he costs us a 1st round pick is if we make the WCF and he has 4 wins on the way there.



I actually didn't but didn't articulate well. It's not the compensation that I'm worried about, per say. It's that we don't need him. He and Talbot are the same guy at this point. If we go deep in the playoffs it's not because we added him. It's because the team is playing well despite him. Waste of a trade. Hope I'm wrong and you all laugh your asses off at me. Would love nothing more.
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RE: Wild 2021/2022 Season - 3/21/2022 12:48:01 PM   
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Status: offline 		Kappo also traded. There is more to this than surface value. That kid shoulda been our guy for 10+ years barring injury.
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RE: Wild 2021/2022 Season - 3/21/2022 1:09:31 PM   
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Kappo also traded. There is more to this than surface value. That kid shoulda been our guy for 10+ years barring injury.


I thought Wallstedt was supposed to be our guy for 10+ years?
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RE: Wild 2021/2022 Season - 3/21/2022 1:30:58 PM   
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Not sure what to think about the Fleury deal. Clearly we're just renting him for the second half of this season (so he probably won't bother to move his family), but does he really help? As others have pointed out - we've beat him up pretty badly for a while now, but I'm quietly trusting Billy G. to know what he's doing.

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RE: Wild 2021/2022 Season - 3/21/2022 1:40:01 PM   
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Kappo also traded. There is more to this than surface value. That kid shoulda been our guy for 10+ years barring injury.


I thought Wallstedt was supposed to be our guy for 10+ years?



Kappo has done it at the highest level. The kid is a hope at this point. Much like Boldy versus Rossi.

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RE: Wild 2021/2022 Season - 3/21/2022 2:04:38 PM   
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RE: Wild 2021/2022 Season - 3/21/2022 4:51:05 PM   
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Status: offline 		This (I believe) tells me that both of our goalies have seriously let down our defense:

- Wild are currently 2nd in expected goals against - which is based off shot quantity and quality given up (behind Boston)
- Wild are currently 15th in actual GAA (so dead in the middle)
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RE: Wild 2021/2022 Season - 3/21/2022 5:06:10 PM   
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Status: offline 		If we do make it to the WC Finals, I hope it's because Cam got on a hot streak and Fluery only has 3 wins.
I think Billy G is thinking this year will be the year to make a run until after the buyout payments are done in a few years.
We have KK and Fiala now, and most likely will be the last year of that, so make a run for it now while we have a little cap to work with.
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RE: Wild 2021/2022 Season - 3/21/2022 6:25:40 PM   
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Status: offline 		NHL guys think it’ll be Fleury’s team Cam taking a few games down the stretch for rest. Could get interesting.
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RE: Wild 2021/2022 Season - 3/21/2022 7:07:36 PM   
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This (I believe) tells me that both of our goalies have seriously let down our defense:

- Wild are currently 2nd in expected goals against - which is based off shot quantity and quality given up (behind Boston)
- Wild are currently 15th in actual GAA (so dead in the middle)

That seems about right. The Wild's biggest winning streaks have been due to big offense. Talbot has never really been in a real groove at any time. There an awful lot of wins that featured the Wild winning despite Talbot letting in a lot of bad goals.

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RE: Wild 2021/2022 Season - 3/21/2022 7:09:36 PM   
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NHL guys think it’ll be Fleury’s team Cam taking a few games down the stretch for rest. Could get interesting.

Seems about right. Not a fan of spending a second (possibly first) round pick to rent Fleury, but like Dubnyk, Talbot is not the guy.

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RE: Wild 2021/2022 Season - 3/21/2022 7:30:49 PM   
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RE: Wild 2021/2022 Season - 3/21/2022 8:13:54 PM   
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NHL guys think it’ll be Fleury’s team Cam taking a few games down the stretch for rest. Could get interesting.

Seems about right. Not a fan of spending a second (possibly first) round pick to rent Fleury, but like Dubnyk, Talbot is not the guy.

Cam is not the guy, but I bet with Fluery there he will pick up his game.
So far he is looking pretty good tonight.
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RE: Wild 2021/2022 Season - 3/21/2022 8:21:50 PM   
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NHL guys think it’ll be Fleury’s team Cam taking a few games down the stretch for rest. Could get interesting.

Seems about right. Not a fan of spending a second (possibly first) round pick to rent Fleury, but like Dubnyk, Talbot is not the guy.

Cam is not the guy, but I bet with Fluery there he will pick up his game.
So far he is looking pretty good tonight.


Yep. Pitching a shutout so far. I’m sure he’s super motivated.
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RE: Wild 2021/2022 Season - 3/21/2022 8:29:32 PM   
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RE: Wild 2021/2022 Season - 3/21/2022 9:33:05 PM   
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RE: Wild 2021/2022 Season - 3/21/2022 9:34:48 PM   
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Status: offline 		Nice win. Other than the start of the second period, the Wild controlled the game. Talbot, surprise surprise, played his best game of the year. Nic Deslauriers made a great first impression with a goal and about half a dozen bone jarring hits.

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RE: Wild 2021/2022 Season - 3/21/2022 9:34:52 PM   
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Status: offline 		Talbot gets the shutout and played one of his better games and some time.
Deslauriers gets the first goal and some crushing hits to start his run as a Wild.
A tough 2nd period with lots of miss handled pucks and turnovers, but overall a fun game.
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RE: Wild 2021/2022 Season - 3/21/2022 9:36:46 PM   
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RE: Wild 2021/2022 Season - 3/21/2022 9:39:20 PM   
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Beat stfrank by 4 seconds.

Yup, same thoughts, just different formatting.
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