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RE: Twins 2023 Season and Game Day Thread - 6/25/2023 7:29:28 AM   
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Good pitching.
Terrible hitting.
Popkins must go.

13 k's last night. At some point you have to have hitters that can get a bat on the ball. It's the worst approach I've ever seen at the plate.

Joey Gallo is potentially the least capable hitter I've ever seen.

By the way, Larry Casian is now 3-5 with a 4.41 for the year. Or whatever we are calling him these days.

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RE: Twins 2023 Season and Game Day Thread - 6/25/2023 7:39:20 AM   
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Luis Arraez batting .402 after last night. He's 18-for-30 in his last seven games and the Marlins are nine games above .500. An on-base % of .452.

Yet continue to be 26th out of 30 teams in runs scored.

It's not always about how many runs you score, but when you score them. The Marlins are 10 games above .500 because they have timely hits and some quality at-bats. Not bad for a team 26th in runs-scored. Last night Miami won 4-3. Scored in the bottom of the 10th to tie it. Scored in the bottom of the 11th to win it.

TIMELY HITTING!

Miami strikes out 8.09 times-per-game. 10th best in the league. The Twins strike out 10.24 times-per-game. On pace to be the worst in the history of baseball. Miami is batting .260 as a team. The Twins, .231.

All of you math guys need to quit looking at the numbers. They are lying to you. I'll take 44-34 over 39-39 any day of the week.

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RE: Twins 2023 Season and Game Day Thread - 6/25/2023 8:01:55 AM   
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Luis Arraez batting .402 after last night. He's 18-for-30 in his last seven games and the Marlins are nine games above .500. An on-base % of .452.

Yet continue to be 26th out of 30 teams in runs scored.

It's not always about how many runs you score, but when you score them. The Marlins are 10 games above .500 because they have timely hits and some quality at-bats. Not bad for a team 26th in runs-scored. Last night Miami won 4-3. Scored in the bottom of the 10th to tie it. Scored in the bottom of the 11th to win it.

TIMELY HITTING!

Miami strikes out 8.09 times-per-game. 10th best in the league. The Twins strike out 10.24 times-per-game. On pace to be the worst in the history of baseball. Miami is batting .260 as a team. The Twins, .231.

All of you math guys need to quit looking at the numbers. They are lying to you.

Oh Bullshit. Offense is about scoring as many as possible. I'm sure hitting coaches all over the league are saying...hey guys, don't worry about a lot of runs. Just be sure to score the ones we get the right time.

It's also funny that you throw out a bunch of numbers and then tell us to quit looking at the numbers because they are lying to us.

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RE: Twins 2023 Season and Game Day Thread - 6/25/2023 8:04:48 AM   
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Luis Arraez batting .402 after last night. He's 18-for-30 in his last seven games and the Marlins are nine games above .500. An on-base % of .452.

Yet continue to be 26th out of 30 teams in runs scored.

It's not always about how many runs you score, but when you score them. The Marlins are 10 games above .500 because they have timely hits and some quality at-bats. Not bad for a team 26th in runs-scored. Last night Miami won 4-3. Scored in the bottom of the 10th to tie it. Scored in the bottom of the 11th to win it.

TIMELY HITTING!

Miami strikes out 8.09 times-per-game. 10th best in the league. The Twins strike out 10.24 times-per-game. On pace to be the worst in the history of baseball. Miami is batting .260 as a team. The Twins, .231.

All of you math guys need to quit looking at the numbers. They are lying to you.

Oh Bullshit. Offense is about scoring as many as possible. I'm sure hitting coaches all over the league are saying...hey guys, don't worry about a lot of runs. Just be sure to score the ones we get the right time.

It's also funny that you throw out a bunch of numbers and then tell us to quit looking at the numbers because they are lying to us.

Again, you math guys are easily fooled by the numbers. Winning and losing is the only thing that matters. Over time, teams have taken a lot of different approaches to winning. Nowadays, you guys want to wrap it up quickly with one or two stats and put a bow on it. Baseball is a far more complex game than that. The new approach to baseball has dumbed it down for the fans....and the math guys.

OPS. Exit velocity. Slugging %. You can have all of that nonsense. Just score when you have to. That involves skill.

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RE: Twins 2023 Season and Game Day Thread - 6/25/2023 2:45:09 PM   
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Status: offline 		Another solid outing from Ober. The bullpen toss 4 shutout innings and the Twins beat the Tigers in 10.

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RE: Twins 2023 Season and Game Day Thread - 6/25/2023 6:21:20 PM   
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What the heck are the trying to coach?

Postgame:

Royce Lewis:

"I looked at where some of our plans were going and how the pitchers were pitching us, and they weren't attacking us with our plan of getting a mistake. I was like, 'Why don't I just start being aggressive, putting the ball in play?'"

What is that for a hitting plan
wait for a mistake?


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RE: Twins 2023 Season and Game Day Thread - 6/25/2023 6:22:09 PM   
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Joey Gallo said he hadn't been happy w/ his performance the past few games. Asked him to elaborate: "Striking out a ****ing lot. It's usually not fun doing that. ... It's never easy or fun doing that. It's one of those where you've got to get through it."

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RE: Twins 2023 Season and Game Day Thread - 6/25/2023 8:24:56 PM   
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This is something
What the heck are the trying to coach?

Postgame:

Royce Lewis:

"I looked at where some of our plans were going and how the pitchers were pitching us, and they weren't attacking us with our plan of getting a mistake. I was like, 'Why don't I just start being aggressive, putting the ball in play?'"

What is that for a hitting plan
wait for a mistake?


Remember when Rowson was the batting coach? The approach was very simple. Be aggressive in the strike zone. If you see a strike...attack. Don't think. Don't lay off and hope for an even better pitch. Attack. The Twins led the league in 2019 at swinging at strikes and in barrels with that simple approach. Sounds like Lewis figured that out on his own.

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RE: Twins 2023 Season and Game Day Thread - 6/25/2023 9:45:52 PM   
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Some positives today!!! The Twins are currently riding a steak of 26 steals without being thrown out!!

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RE: Twins 2023 Season and Game Day Thread - 6/26/2023 8:49:00 AM   
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Status: offline 		Out of the lineup for a third consecutive game, Josh Donaldson spun from his locker in the Yankees’ clubhouse, cap backwards and a bat in his hand. He ambled toward manager Aaron Boone’s office, sparking a lengthy conversation that spilled a half-hour longer than expected.

The result: Boone said that he and Donaldson are now “on the same page,” and that Donaldson will be “playing a lot” as the Bombers’ third baseman.

“I know the batting average since he’s come back has not been great, but scratch the surface to the underlying [numbers] and he’s hitting the ball hard,” Boone said. “I feel like there’s a ton in there for him offensively. He’s tremendous defensively at third; I don’t think anyone would argue with that. I just want to get him going, because I know he can be a key figure for us.”

Donaldson said after the Yankees’ 5-3 win over the Rangers that the chat with Boone was “just a lot of ball talk” and not about playing time.

“Obviously, I want to play, but that’s not why we were talking,” Donaldson said. “At the end of the day, I’m happy our team won. However I can help this team win ballgames or contribute in any way possible, that’s what I’m here for.”

Donaldson, 37, is slashing .125/.197/.406 with six homers and eight RBIs in 21 games this season. He is 6-for-48 (.125) since returning from a right hamstring strain on June 2 and has been booed at Yankee Stadium, including after striking out as a pinch-hitter in the 10th inning of Friday night’s 4-2 loss to Texas.

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RE: Twins 2023 Season and Game Day Thread - 6/26/2023 9:26:12 AM   
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RE: Twins 2023 Season and Game Day Thread - 6/26/2023 9:59:43 AM   
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Maeda and Kepler. Not exactly who I expected to be the keys to victory tonight.

I'm wondering if Kepler played with a corked bat. Saw a replay of his HR and it looked like a harmless flyball off the bat. It did just sneak over the yellow line.

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RE: Twins 2023 Season and Game Day Thread - 6/26/2023 10:19:42 AM   
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Good pitching.
Terrible hitting.
Popkins must go.

13 k's last night. At some point you have to have hitters that can get a bat on the ball. It's the worst approach I've ever seen at the plate.

Joey Gallo is potentially the least capable hitter I've ever seen.

By the way, Larry Casian is now 3-5 with a 4.41 for the year. Or whatever we are calling him these days.


Quality start and 10 strikeouts. But I guess it's his fault the Twins didn't score runs.
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RE: Twins 2023 Season and Game Day Thread - 6/26/2023 8:19:14 PM   
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until Rocco's key bullpen guy gives up a 2 run homer. Another awesome Pagan night.

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RE: Twins 2023 Season and Game Day Thread - 6/26/2023 8:27:19 PM  2 votes
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Close game

until Rocco's key bullpen guy gives up a 2 run homer. Another awesome Pagan night.

Pagan
He's our man to blowthe game.
If he can't do it, no one can.

Pagan is garbage and Rocco is an idiot.

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RE: Twins 2023 Season and Game Day Thread - 6/26/2023 8:32:51 PM   
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RE: Twins 2023 Season and Game Day Thread - 6/26/2023 9:39:25 PM   
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Good pitching.
Terrible hitting.
Popkins must go.

13 k's last night. At some point you have to have hitters that can get a bat on the ball. It's the worst approach I've ever seen at the plate.

Joey Gallo is potentially the least capable hitter I've ever seen.

By the way, Larry Casian is now 3-5 with a 4.41 for the year. Or whatever we are calling him these days.


Quality start and 10 strikeouts. But I guess it's his fault the Twins didn't score runs.

13 k's still leaves a lot of room for "timely hitting", eh?
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RE: Twins 2023 Season and Game Day Thread - 6/27/2023 6:14:58 AM   
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Close game

until Rocco's key bullpen guy gives up a 2 run homer. Another awesome Pagan night.

Pagan
He's our man to blowthe game.
If he can't do it, no one can.

Pagan is garbage and Rocco is an idiot.


I imagine the other dugout when Pagan comes in

Like the Lite Beer softball game commercial when they go to the bullpen

IT'S RODNEY!!! followed by laughter

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RE: Twins 2023 Season and Game Day Thread - 6/27/2023 8:05:39 AM   
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Close game

until Rocco's key bullpen guy gives up a 2 run homer. Another awesome Pagan night.

Pagan
He's our man to blowthe game.
If he can't do it, no one can.

Pagan is garbage and Rocco is an idiot.


I imagine the other dugout when Pagan comes in

Like the Lite Beer softball game commercial when they go to the bullpen

IT'S RODNEY!!! followed by laughter

And since Gray got charged with two runs in the 7th, we can expect Rocco to double down on pulling his starters after 5 IP.

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RE: Twins 2023 Season and Game Day Thread - 6/27/2023 8:17:17 AM   
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Status: offline 		In injury news, Jose DeLeon is going in for his second TJ surgery. Not a surprise for anyone who saw him throw a warm up pitch, grab his elbow and walk off the field on Saturday.

Polanco is beginning a running program for his hamstring pull. The Twins new soft tissue guru is taking the blame for Polanco being hurt in the first place.

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RE: Twins 2023 Season and Game Day Thread - 6/27/2023 8:23:47 AM   
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Good pitching.
Terrible hitting.
Popkins must go.

13 k's last night. At some point you have to have hitters that can get a bat on the ball. It's the worst approach I've ever seen at the plate.

Joey Gallo is potentially the least capable hitter I've ever seen.

By the way, Larry Casian is now 3-5 with a 4.41 for the year. Or whatever we are calling him these days.


Ok I will ask once again; Brad how many Marlins games or Twins games have you watched this year?

Brad says stats are baloney but that is all he has as he hasn't even watched a Twins Recap on YouTube or the same for the Marlins (let alone a live game).

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RE: Twins 2023 Season and Game Day Thread - 6/27/2023 9:41:40 AM   
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Close game

until Rocco's key bullpen guy gives up a 2 run homer. Another awesome Pagan night.

Pagan
He's our man to blowthe game.
If he can't do it, no one can.

Pagan is garbage and Rocco is an idiot.


I imagine the other dugout when Pagan comes in

Like the Lite Beer softball game commercial when they go to the bullpen

IT'S RODNEY!!! followed by laughter

And since Gray got charged with two runs in the 7th, we can expect Rocco to double down on pulling his starters after 5 IP.

ONE of those runs scored when Pagan gave up the dinger.

I have to. I must once again ask the question. When will Emilio be Pa-Gone?

One must take the scissors away from the running child if they will not learn their lesson.

Rocco can not be trusted to NOT put Pagan in situations like this. He keeps doing it. I keep thinking of the definition of insanity...

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RE: Twins 2023 Season and Game Day Thread - 6/27/2023 9:45:01 AM   
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Rocco illustrates Einstein's definition of insanity time and time again with Pagan




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RE: Twins 2023 Season and Game Day Thread - 6/27/2023 9:56:51 AM   
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Is the Pagan thing a Rocco deal or Tingler? I live in SoCal and listen to the local sports radio a lot and Padre fans bitched quite a bit about this same situation when Tingler was in charge down here. They laughed when the Twins picked him up. It was a "good riddance" situation.
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RE: Twins 2023 Season and Game Day Thread - 6/27/2023 10:17:53 AM   
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I'm not a baseball guy and don't watch the Twins so don't kill me but...


Is the Pagan thing a Rocco deal or Tingler? I live in SoCal and listen to the local sports radio a lot and Padre fans bitched quite a bit about this same situation when Tingler was in charge down here. They laughed when the Twins picked him up. It was a "good riddance" situation.


It's a Rocco thing. Rocco is the manager. Rocco decides which pitcher to put in and when. NOT the bench coach.

And it will be a "good riddance" situation here when this organization finally learns that Pagan is worthless.

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