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Hrrmmm.... Ringo, Phillips, Rush, Smith & Hodges Tomlinson all rated higher.
Blackmon did have a really good year last year... we'll see how much Kwesi knows his business.

From CBS:
Mekhi Blackmon CB, USC
Height: 5-11, Weight: 178
Chippy, sticky outside CB with a tiny, spindly frame. Always around the football. Was a big-time sleeper. Can play inside or on the perimeter. Great pick. (Chris Trapasso) A-

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: bstinger

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

Every year this comes up.

There could be 20 compensatory picks in a round and we trade into the last one. Come hell or highwater, by god we stayed in the round even though value wise we ended up with the 20th pick in the NEXT round.

What matters is how many slots you move, the round is pretty much irrelevant when the comp picks start. However, the NFL calls it the 3rd, so it's the 3rd.

It matters when teams are using value charts, which they do. Unlike you, they likely factor in adjusting them especially as the pool of comp picks become an ever larger factor as the rounds go on. It's stuff over your head.

KMA

Yep, you have nothing. Just don't trying assigning value to any trade from the 3rd round on and you'll be ok.

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

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ORIGINAL: beo

Hrrmmm.... Ringo, Phillips, Rush, Smith & Hodges Tomlinson all rated higher.
Blackmon did have a really good year last year... we'll see how much Kwesi knows his business.

From CBS:
Mekhi Blackmon CB, USC
Height: 5-11, Weight: 178
Chippy, sticky outside CB with a tiny, spindly frame. Always around the football. Was a big-time sleeper. Can play inside or on the perimeter. Great pick. (Chris Trapasso) A-

Maybe he'll be the Wayne Gretzky of the NFL.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: bstinger

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: bstinger

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

Every year this comes up.

There could be 20 compensatory picks in a round and we trade into the last one. Come hell or highwater, by god we stayed in the round even though value wise we ended up with the 20th pick in the NEXT round.

What matters is how many slots you move, the round is pretty much irrelevant when the comp picks start. However, the NFL calls it the 3rd, so it's the 3rd.

It matters when teams are using value charts, which they do. Unlike you, they likely factor in adjusting them especially as the pool of comp picks become an ever larger factor as the rounds go on. It's stuff over your head.

KMA

Yep, you have nothing. Just don't trying assigning value to any trade from the 3rd round on and you'll be ok.

Not sure what you're getting at. Every pick has a value, the round is irrelevant. That being said, it doesn't appear that Queasy got good value here.

He gave up a pick worth 155 and received 92+24.6+1.1= 117.7

https://www.drafttek.com/NFL-Trade-Value-Chart.asp

Right, I don't get trade chart value, right... Like I said before the round doesn't matter as much as the # of spots you move, but it's still the 3rd round.

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PFF review

DB – MEKHI BLACKMON, USC
One cornerback in this draft class was in the top five of PFF coverage grade both for man coverage and zone coverage, Blackmon. At 5-foot-11 and 178 pounds, Blackmon is undersized, but he has the tenacity to offset that. He allowed a 46.1 passer rating into his coverage last season and just 47.6% of passes thrown his way to be caught. Blackmon’s game is exceptionally entertaining, and he plays much bigger than he actually is. He could be an absolute steal during the draft.

But feel free to doom and gloom...

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ORIGINAL: beo

PFF review

DB – MEKHI BLACKMON, USC
One cornerback in this draft class was in the top five of PFF coverage grade both for man coverage and zone coverage, Blackmon. At 5-foot-11 and 178 pounds, Blackmon is undersized, but he has the tenacity to offset that. He allowed a 46.1 passer rating into his coverage last season and just 47.6% of passes thrown his way to be caught. Blackmon’s game is exceptionally entertaining, and he plays much bigger than he actually is. He could be an absolute steal during the draft.

But feel free to doom and gloom...

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ORIGINAL: lyle chabot

well 2 years in a row I have been disappointed in the Vikes draft. Not sure what they are thinking but they are more knowledgeable than I am. I was getting tired of seeing the Pukers Bears and Lions picking all over the place and we picked TWICE. I wanted Hooker and of course he goes to a division rival........

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: bstinger

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: bstinger

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

Every year this comes up.

There could be 20 compensatory picks in a round and we trade into the last one. Come hell or highwater, by god we stayed in the round even though value wise we ended up with the 20th pick in the NEXT round.

What matters is how many slots you move, the round is pretty much irrelevant when the comp picks start. However, the NFL calls it the 3rd, so it's the 3rd.

It matters when teams are using value charts, which they do. Unlike you, they likely factor in adjusting them especially as the pool of comp picks become an ever larger factor as the rounds go on. It's stuff over your head.

KMA

Yep, you have nothing. Just don't trying assigning value to any trade from the 3rd round on and you'll be ok.

Not sure what you're getting at. Every pick has a value, the round is irrelevant. That being said, it doesn't appear that Queasy got good value here.

He gave up a pick worth 155 and received 92+24.6+1.1= 117.7

https://www.drafttek.com/NFL-Trade-Value-Chart.asp

Right, I don't get trade chart value, right... Like I said before the round doesn't matter as much as the # of spots you move, but it's still the 3rd round.

Don't know how simple I can make it: value wise, like when you access a value chart w/o comp picks to see the points on a trade, you'd have to look at the 7th spot in the 4th to see how much it's worth.

By not doing that, every pick does NOT have a value. The comp picks have to be factored in. Everything slips backwards.

The chart you reference, which I use and have posted here twice the last couple of days, does factor the comp picks in. Many don't. If they don't it's a 4th, point wise.

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ORIGINAL: bstinger

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: bstinger

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: bstinger

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: bstinger

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

Every year this comes up.

There could be 20 compensatory picks in a round and we trade into the last one. Come hell or highwater, by god we stayed in the round even though value wise we ended up with the 20th pick in the NEXT round.

What matters is how many slots you move, the round is pretty much irrelevant when the comp picks start. However, the NFL calls it the 3rd, so it's the 3rd.

It matters when teams are using value charts, which they do. Unlike you, they likely factor in adjusting them especially as the pool of comp picks become an ever larger factor as the rounds go on. It's stuff over your head.

KMA

Yep, you have nothing. Just don't trying assigning value to any trade from the 3rd round on and you'll be ok.

Not sure what you're getting at. Every pick has a value, the round is irrelevant. That being said, it doesn't appear that Queasy got good value here.

He gave up a pick worth 155 and received 92+24.6+1.1= 117.7

https://www.drafttek.com/NFL-Trade-Value-Chart.asp

Right, I don't get trade chart value, right... Like I said before the round doesn't matter as much as the # of spots you move, but it's still the 3rd round.

Don't know how simple I can make it: value wise, like when you access a value chart w/o comp picks to see the points on a trade, you'd have to look at the 7th spot in the 4th to see how much it's worth.

By not doing that, every pick does NOT have a value. The comp picks have to be factored in. Everything slips backwards.

The chart you reference, which I use and have posted here twice the last couple of days, does factor the comp picks in. Many don't. If they don't it's a 4th, point wise.

I don't know how simple I can make it. The round doesn't matter in the value it's the # of slots between picks. However when talking about which round a pick is in, I will defer to the terminology used by the GD league that runs the draft, not your interpretation of what you think it should be.

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ORIGINAL: bstinger

Why do you have to say it's the 7th pick of the 4th when the 7th pick of the 4th belongs to Las Vegas and is worth 76 pts. Our pick at the end of the 3rd was worth 92.

It would be more accurate to just say its the 87th pick vs the 102nd pick vs the 109th pick when the round is irrelevant, but when someone says we traded out of the 3rd round that is factually incorrect. 102 is the last pick of the 3rd round. Sorry Bill.

I get where you might want to talk like you are if someone isn't using the correct board, but you'd be smarter to just direct them to the correct board and quit all the mental gymnastics, you aren't as good at it as you think.

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ORIGINAL: Nate

He looks a little Duke Shelley’ish. Maybe we should’ve kept Duke and drafted DL.

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ORIGINAL: Chris Olson

I'm good with this draft so far...

all the grown men crying over the GM not conforming to their hopes is just weird

We got maybe the best WR in the draft...and it was definitely a need spot, despite probably having more pressing need on D

We got Hock for the 2nd rounder

And we got a sneaky good, under the radar cb , plus a couple extra picks

characterize it how you will, but, imo, so far so good, based on where we were picking and the number of picks we had

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

So far this draft has allowed us to acquire:

Addison
Hockenson
Blackmon