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ORIGINAL: marty

Should have signed Jones for 2 years, or extend him mid season this coming season.

It's good to take a bite out of the Packers. Now injuries to Kenny Clarkband Gary, and the Packers won't make the playoffs.

It's too bad the Vikings can't find a Kenny Clark like player at DT.

Which of CB IDL and IOL is strongest in the draft?

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ORIGINAL: stfrank

Finally we look to be clearing huge contracts and dead money that have been holding back this team for years. We may suck for a season or 2 but at least most of our cap space won't be wasted on guys no longer with the team. I'm not sold on our drafting ability, but at least we now have a chance to build a good team without having 50% of our money going to a few players.

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ORIGINAL: stfrank

Finally we look to be clearing huge contracts and dead money that have been holding back this team for years. We may suck for a season or 2 but at least most of our cap space won't be wasted on guys no longer with the team. I'm not sold on our drafting ability, but at least we now have a chance to build a good team without having 50% of our money going to a few players.

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ORIGINAL: bstinger

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ORIGINAL: stfrank

Finally we look to be clearing huge contracts and dead money that have been holding back this team for years. We may suck for a season or 2 but at least most of our cap space won't be wasted on guys no longer with the team. I'm not sold on our drafting ability, but at least we now have a chance to build a good team without having 50% of our money going to a few players.

Good to be clearing the books, about time. I hope we don't go overboard on JJ, if he's being unreasonable, trade him. I'm OK with a suck season in 2024 to get close to the top pick in 2025, drafting 10-25 most of the time sucks. I have my doubts on the draft as well. Nailing a couple of drafts with good capital can turn around a team in a hurry.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: bstinger

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ORIGINAL: stfrank

Finally we look to be clearing huge contracts and dead money that have been holding back this team for years. We may suck for a season or 2 but at least most of our cap space won't be wasted on guys no longer with the team. I'm not sold on our drafting ability, but at least we now have a chance to build a good team without having 50% of our money going to a few players.

Good to be clearing the books, about time. I hope we don't go overboard on JJ, if he's being unreasonable, trade him. I'm OK with a suck season in 2024 to get close to the top pick in 2025, drafting 10-25 most of the time sucks. I have my doubts on the draft as well. Nailing a couple of drafts with good capital can turn around a team in a hurry.

What's unreasonable? IMO he will have a no-trade clause, 80% of his contract guaranteed, and an AAV of at least (?) $32 million over 5 years.

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ORIGINAL: joejitsu

We still need two d tackles, a starter quality center, a guard, and at least one good cb. Not to mention a qb. I don’t know how we can address all those needs right now, though.

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ORIGINAL: joejitsu

We still need two d tackles, a starter quality center, a guard, and at least one good cb. Not to mention a qb. I don’t know how we can address all those needs right now, though.

No team has it all. Neither will we.

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ORIGINAL: joejitsu

We still need two d tackles, a starter quality center, a guard, and at least one good cb. Not to mention a qb. I don’t know how we can address all those needs right now, though.

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ORIGINAL: Daniel Lee Young

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ORIGINAL: joejitsu

We still need two d tackles, a starter quality center, a guard, and at least one good cb. Not to mention a qb. I don’t know how we can address all those needs right now, though.

Honestly, you can’t..

You have to give up the “ be competitive now, make the playoffs with a prayer” mentality that has been this franchise MO for at least a decade..

Free up more cap.

Kick those ancient bloated contract, fan favorites to the curb..

Shoot for a better future and quit looking in tha past.

Bite those bullets and put the onus on KAM, and KOC, to do their FN jobs, and build a real team.

The draft is not a toy to play “ I’m a trader and I am smarter than 31 other teams.”

We have easily identified needs and coaches in place who are supposed to know how they want to build their specialties..

The draft room is supposed to be a team oriented effort to get the best players available for obvious needs..

OL is a serious need.

iDL is an obvious need..

QB is by any measure, the top need..

CB is a need..

What we don’t need is the standard.. let’s pick ANOTHER WR, because.. you know.. DeRp..

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ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

I think you patch what you can with the stuff coming but don't be stupid. Next year is going to be the year to start to go for it. In fact, long term, it would be better if we stunk this year but we're too talented for that to happen. We're going to have a huge cap kitty next year to use.

My biggest fear is basically what happened to KAM in his first draft. I've heard several reports that he made those D picks based on what Donatell was advising him for his style. A total flop for sure but now he's doing the same with Flores' input. Which, btw, is smart because he actually knows what they hell he's doing. The fear comes in "what if Flores leaves?".

KAM better have learned a lesson and they have a succession plan in place if Flores gets a HC so that all these FA's and picks make sense in the new guys system.

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ORIGINAL: DavidAOlson

I probably missed the discussion about Cousins admitting he had contact with the Atlanta trainer, during the period when that was verboten. Tampering...

I'm looking forward to picking up a third round pick from Atlanta (historical penalty). But since it was such a big signing, maybe a second or even a first.


https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/kirk-cousins-admits-to-direct-communications-with-falcons-during-negotiating-period

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ORIGINAL: DavidAOlson

I probably missed the discussion about Cousins admitting he had contact with the Atlanta trainer, during the period when that was verboten. Tampering...

I'm looking forward to picking up a third round pick from Atlanta (historical penalty). But since it was such a big signing, maybe a second or even a first.


https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/kirk-cousins-admits-to-direct-communications-with-falcons-during-negotiating-period

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: stfrank

Finally we look to be clearing huge contracts and dead money that have been holding back this team for years. We may suck for a season or 2 but at least most of our cap space won't be wasted on guys no longer with the team. I'm not sold on our drafting ability, but at least we now have a chance to build a good team without having 50% of our money going to a few players.

Yep. Sort of step 1 of the rebuild. A year late but better than never happening.

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: DavidAOlson

I probably missed the discussion about Cousins admitting he had contact with the Atlanta trainer, during the period when that was verboten. Tampering...

I'm looking forward to picking up a third round pick from Atlanta (historical penalty). But since it was such a big signing, maybe a second or even a first.


https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/kirk-cousins-admits-to-direct-communications-with-falcons-during-negotiating-period

The pick was forfeited as a penalty. It wasn't transferred to the player's old team..

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: stfrank

Finally we look to be clearing huge contracts and dead money that have been holding back this team for years. We may suck for a season or 2 but at least most of our cap space won't be wasted on guys no longer with the team. I'm not sold on our drafting ability, but at least we now have a chance to build a good team without having 50% of our money going to a few players.

Yep. Sort of step 1 of the rebuild. A year late but better than never happening.

Step 1 happened last year with Thielen and Kendricks.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: stfrank

Finally we look to be clearing huge contracts and dead money that have been holding back this team for years. We may suck for a season or 2 but at least most of our cap space won't be wasted on guys no longer with the team. I'm not sold on our drafting ability, but at least we now have a chance to build a good team without having 50% of our money going to a few players.

Yep. Sort of step 1 of the rebuild. A year late but better than never happening.

Step 1 happened last year with Thielen and Kendricks.

I meant that multi-year phase is basically concluded.

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: stfrank

Finally we look to be clearing huge contracts and dead money that have been holding back this team for years. We may suck for a season or 2 but at least most of our cap space won't be wasted on guys no longer with the team. I'm not sold on our drafting ability, but at least we now have a chance to build a good team without having 50% of our money going to a few players.

Yep. Sort of step 1 of the rebuild. A year late but better than never happening.

Step 1 happened last year with Thielen and Kendricks.

I meant that multi-year phase is basically concluded.

Teams can rebuild a team in a year if done correctly and tanking isn't ever the solution. This became a 3 year purge of bad contracts because of the stupidity of Rick.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: stfrank

Finally we look to be clearing huge contracts and dead money that have been holding back this team for years. We may suck for a season or 2 but at least most of our cap space won't be wasted on guys no longer with the team. I'm not sold on our drafting ability, but at least we now have a chance to build a good team without having 50% of our money going to a few players.

Yep. Sort of step 1 of the rebuild. A year late but better than never happening.

Step 1 happened last year with Thielen and Kendricks.

I meant that multi-year phase is basically concluded.

Teams can rebuild a team in a year if done correctly and tanking isn't ever the solution. This became a 3 year purge of bad contracts because of the stupidity of Rick.

What's your point? What team has rebuilt in a year? KC with their OL and having Mahomes? And you don't know whether tanking isn't ever the solution. We'll see how the Bears do.

But who cares with that speculation. THIS rebuild is a multi-year effort. It's already in year three and barring a miracle it will be a couple more years before the gaps can be adequately addressed. Not just addressed... adequately addressed.