RE: General Vikes Talk

Talk Vikes and Other MN Sports

Forums Register Login My Profile Inbox Address Book My Subscription My Forums

Photo Gallery Member List Search Calendars FAQ Ticket List Log Out

RE: General Vikes Talk

Logged in as: Guest

Users viewing this topic: none

Printable Version

All Forums >> [The Minnesota Vikings] >> Vikes Talk >> RE: General Vikes Talk

Page: << < prev 218 219 [220] 221 222 next > >>

Message

<< Older Topic Newer Topic >>

RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/19/2025 9:38:59 PM

TJSweens

Posts: 45173
Joined: 7/16/2007
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

quote:

ORIGINAL: TJSweens

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

quote:

ORIGINAL: beo

Jayden Daniels is unbelievable for a rookie.

Yep. And all the 4th down plays they called throughout the season and yesterday. Those plays alone rachet up the pressure. And they did great at converting.

So KAM and company probably got it wrong again. We were trying to move up to #2 for Maye.

Still early and Maye could be just as good or better but it sure looks like Daniels is best QB in that draft.

Until JJM starts playing

We were trying to move up to the Pats pick at 3.

Yeah. That's right. No shot at Daniels.

I can still complain about Verse or Jalen Carter instead of Dallas Turner though.

At the time, I loved the DT move. Thought it was brilliant. Heard of Verse through various draft sites but really didn't know much about him. I assumed, like DT, that he was some 'tweener' that needed time. Damn, that looks like a massive miss.

There are some mitigating factors to the end results. Turner came in and had to play behind two pro-bowlers in Greenard and Van Ginkle. As a result Verse had at least 3 times as many plays as Turner. Despite that Verse only had 1.5 more sacks than Turner. Verse is also 3 years older than Turner. Time will tell if it was a miss or not.

_____________________________

"The eternal fate of the noble and enlightened: to be brutally crushed by the armed and dumb."

Post #: 5476

RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/19/2025 10:02:57 PM

Jeff Jesser

Posts: 19595
Joined: 7/16/2007
From: Southern Cal
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: TJSweens

quote:

ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

quote:

ORIGINAL: TJSweens

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

quote:

ORIGINAL: beo

Jayden Daniels is unbelievable for a rookie.

Yep. And all the 4th down plays they called throughout the season and yesterday. Those plays alone rachet up the pressure. And they did great at converting.

So KAM and company probably got it wrong again. We were trying to move up to #2 for Maye.

Still early and Maye could be just as good or better but it sure looks like Daniels is best QB in that draft.

Until JJM starts playing

We were trying to move up to the Pats pick at 3.

Yeah. That's right. No shot at Daniels.

I can still complain about Verse or Jalen Carter instead of Dallas Turner though.

At the time, I loved the DT move. Thought it was brilliant. Heard of Verse through various draft sites but really didn't know much about him. I assumed, like DT, that he was some 'tweener' that needed time. Damn, that looks like a massive miss.

There are some mitigating factors to the end results. Turner came in and had to play behind two pro-bowlers in Greenard and Van Ginkle. As a result Verse had at least 3 times as many plays as Turner. Despite that Verse only had 1.5 more sacks than Turner. Verse is also 3 years older than Turner. Time will tell if it was a miss or not.

Probably a great point. I don't watch the Rams unless it's against us or today when there is nothing else. That said, every time I've seem him he's an ass kicker.

Post #: 5477

RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/19/2025 10:40:34 PM

Bill Johanesen

Posts: 29384
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

quote:

ORIGINAL: marty

Ravens TE Darrin Nelson-ed the 2 point conversion. Josh Oliver would have brought that in and secured it.

Nelson's attempt was much harder. That was a layup.

Famous TE drop

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezJ5zWBqhSk

Post #: 5478

RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/20/2025 12:07:04 PM

marty

Posts: 13242
Joined: 12/28/2007
Status: offline

Excellent drop 👏 😂

_____________________________

SKOL to the BOWL !!!

Post #: 5479

RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/20/2025 4:24:38 PM

Pager

Posts: 10552
Joined: 7/19/2007
Status: offline

Ben Johnson to the Bears (Windy City website going nuts). Thought he was going to the Jags.

https://x.com/AdamSchefter/status/1881440006486761761

Still do not think Flores goes to the Jets, but maybe the Jags?

_____________________________

Left picking up the pieces.

Post #: 5480

RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/20/2025 11:13:17 PM

marty

Posts: 13242
Joined: 12/28/2007
Status: offline

I think Flores is staying in Minnesota.

Bears probably made the best hire they could have made, could make it a 4 way race next season.

< Message edited by marty -- 1/21/2025 3:34:35 AM >

_____________________________

SKOL to the BOWL !!!

Post #: 5481

RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/21/2025 7:09:36 AM

Phil Riewer

Posts: 28152
Joined: 8/24/2007
From: MN
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: Pager

Ben Johnson to the Bears (Windy City website going nuts). Thought he was going to the Jags.

https://x.com/AdamSchefter/status/1881440006486761761

Still do not think Flores goes to the Jets, but maybe the Jags?

Good luck w/o that Oline Ben.

_____________________________

SSG Riewer, Greg A Co 2/136 CAB
KIA 23 March 2007 Habbaniyah Iraq

Post #: 5482

RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/21/2025 9:58:29 AM

Mark Anderson

Posts: 12278
Joined: 9/1/2007
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Pager

Ben Johnson to the Bears (Windy City website going nuts). Thought he was going to the Jags.

https://x.com/AdamSchefter/status/1881440006486761761

Still do not think Flores goes to the Jets, but maybe the Jags?

Good luck w/o that Oline Ben.

They could have won that game if they would have just went heavy with Gibbs and scrapped the trick plays.

Post #: 5483

RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/21/2025 10:05:02 AM

Mark Anderson

Posts: 12278
Joined: 9/1/2007
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: marty

I think Flores is staying in Minnesota.

Bears probably made the best hire they could have made, could make it a 4 way race next season.

I hope so. Get him some CBs and DLinemen and we could have a dominant defense.

Post #: 5484

RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/21/2025 10:08:43 AM

Phil Riewer

Posts: 28152
Joined: 8/24/2007
From: MN
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

quote:

ORIGINAL: marty

I think Flores is staying in Minnesota.

Bears probably made the best hire they could have made, could make it a 4 way race next season.

I hope so. Get him some CBs and DLinemen and we could have a dominant defense.

Our last 3 NFC Championship teams.....11998 had a great oline (Zimmerman, McDaniel, Christy, Dixon, Stringer) the other two not so much outside of Hutchinson.

< Message edited by Phil Riewer -- 1/21/2025 10:09:58 AM >

_____________________________

SSG Riewer, Greg A Co 2/136 CAB
KIA 23 March 2007 Habbaniyah Iraq

Post #: 5485

RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/21/2025 10:25:58 AM

Bill Johanesen

Posts: 29384
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

quote:

ORIGINAL: marty

I think Flores is staying in Minnesota.

Bears probably made the best hire they could have made, could make it a 4 way race next season.

I hope so. Get him some CBs and DLinemen and we could have a dominant defense.

Our last 3 NFC Championship teams.....11998 had a great oline (Zimmerman, McDaniel, Christy, Dixon, Stringer) the other two not so much outside of Hutchinson.

Zimmerman lol.

Post #: 5486

RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/21/2025 10:29:28 AM

Phil Riewer

Posts: 28152
Joined: 8/24/2007
From: MN
Status: offline

Sorry way off on that one...but that was a dominant Oline....LT that got slapped by Christie....lol

< Message edited by Phil Riewer -- 1/21/2025 10:33:46 AM >

_____________________________

SSG Riewer, Greg A Co 2/136 CAB
KIA 23 March 2007 Habbaniyah Iraq

Post #: 5487

RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/21/2025 10:47:48 AM

marty

Posts: 13242
Joined: 12/28/2007
Status: offline

The Achilles heel of the Vikings offensive could be offensive line coach Chris Kuper.

He should have been put on notice that his job is on the line.

_____________________________

SKOL to the BOWL !!!

Post #: 5488

RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/21/2025 3:39:31 PM

marty

Posts: 13242
Joined: 12/28/2007
Status: offline

Flores not on the Jags radar:

https://share.newsbreak.com/b0wwi4zf

The last paragraph:

As things stand, Flores will likely be returning to the Vikings and that's a huge win for head coach Kevin O'Connell.

_____________________________

SKOL to the BOWL !!!

Post #: 5489

RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/21/2025 3:52:55 PM

Tom Sykes

Posts: 5942
Joined: 7/27/2007
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

quote:

ORIGINAL: marty

I think Flores is staying in Minnesota.

Bears probably made the best hire they could have made, could make it a 4 way race next season.

I hope so. Get him some CBs and DLinemen and we could have a dominant defense.

Whatever it takes to not get pushed around come playoffs.

The gambling with pressure is fun for awhile but two seasons in a row of diminishing effectiveness will take improvement by Flores also. Not just additional talent.

Post #: 5490

RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/21/2025 3:59:42 PM

Phil Riewer

Posts: 28152
Joined: 8/24/2007
From: MN
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: marty
The Achilles heel of the Vikings offensive could be offensive line coach Chris Kuper.
He should have been put on notice that his job is on the line.

Hard to tell with what he has to work with when you consider Cam is a 2nd String LT and the 2nd best lineman most of the year. A guy the Jags basically gave away.

_____________________________

SSG Riewer, Greg A Co 2/136 CAB
KIA 23 March 2007 Habbaniyah Iraq

Post #: 5491

RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/21/2025 4:06:20 PM

Phil Riewer

Posts: 28152
Joined: 8/24/2007
From: MN
Status: offline

KOC sticking around for a whille.

https://www.startribune.com/minnesota-vikings-coach-kevin-oconnell-contract-extension/601208917?taid=6790192cf3e78c0001c2dd82&utm_campaign=trueanthem&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter

< Message edited by Phil Riewer -- 1/21/2025 4:07:26 PM >

_____________________________

SSG Riewer, Greg A Co 2/136 CAB
KIA 23 March 2007 Habbaniyah Iraq

Post #: 5492

RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/21/2025 4:13:42 PM

Jeff Jesser

Posts: 19595
Joined: 7/16/2007
From: Southern Cal
Status: offline

I wonder what the terms are. Some were saying "blank check". I am like "whoa, slow down there. He's still has a lot to prove for that kinda talk".

Post #: 5493

RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/21/2025 5:34:53 PM

Todd M

Posts: 41257
Joined: 7/14/2007
Status: offline

Here’s your blank check.

Ten years, 500 million….

Signed Kevin William O’Connell.

_____________________________

They’re all bums

Post #: 5494

RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/21/2025 7:21:46 PM 1 votes

Steve Lentz

Posts: 36232
Joined: 7/19/2007
From: Omaha
Status: offline

I like our Head Coach.
I like our Defensive Coordinator.
I don't like our Offensive Line.

_____________________________

" I believe empathy is the most essential quality of civilization"

Post #: 5495

RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/21/2025 7:48:27 PM

marty

Posts: 13242
Joined: 12/28/2007
Status: offline

Who has this offensive line coach improved?

Has he turned Bradbury into a stud ? Has he solidified the guard spots ? Did he improve Ingram's pass blocking ? Did he improve Risner's run blocking ?

Is the OL unit on track to become a top 10 OL because of stellar coaching ?

Is Darrisaw successful because of raw talent and size, or has Kuper gave him so many great techniques, and is Kuper coming up with ways to keep Darrisaw healthy ?

How about O'Neill? He used to be arguably the best RT in the league. It seems like he is getting pushed around more the last few years, and is getting hurt more often.

_____________________________

SKOL to the BOWL !!!

Post #: 5496

RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/21/2025 7:48:53 PM

stfrank

Posts: 11982
Joined: 7/22/2007
From: Twin Cities
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: Steve Lentz

I like our Head Coach.
I like our Defensive Coordinator.
I don't like our Offensive Line.

Post #: 5497

RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/21/2025 8:07:29 PM

marty

Posts: 13242
Joined: 12/28/2007
Status: offline

Jeremiah Sirles and Alex Boone (who I wish was the Vikings OL coach) broke down the 9 sacks of Darnold against the Rams, and they had 4 or 5 of them on break downs from the OL, about 4 on Darnold (though a few more could also have been his fault, it's debatable).

Even if the Vikings improve a few of the players on the OL, if they're lacking in technique, or continuously making mental errors in big games, the line might be improved by an OL coach that has the unit playing very well in big games, instead of unit that tends to be nervous and is making errors.

_____________________________

SKOL to the BOWL !!!

Post #: 5498

RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/21/2025 8:07:55 PM

marty

Posts: 13242
Joined: 12/28/2007
Status: offline

_____________________________

SKOL to the BOWL !!!

Post #: 5499

RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/22/2025 7:51:35 AM

Phil Riewer

Posts: 28152
Joined: 8/24/2007
From: MN
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: marty

Jeremiah Sirles and Alex Boone (who I wish was the Vikings OL coach) broke down the 9 sacks of Darnold against the Rams, and they had 4 or 5 of them on break downs from the OL, about 4 on Darnold (though a few more could also have been his fault, it's debatable).

Even if the Vikings improve a few of the players on the OL, if they're lacking in technique, or continuously making mental errors in big games, the line might be improved by an OL coach that has the unit playing very well in big games, instead of unit that tends to be nervous and is making errors.

VikeFans
@VikeFans
·
2m
Fix IT! How bad has the MIN Offensive Line been? Brian O'Neill was a replacement Pro Bowler in 2021 & No other Viking linemen has been named to a Pro Bowl since 2012 (Matt Kalil). Last Guard to be a Pro Bowler? Steve Hutchison in 2009 (15 yrs). Last Center? Matt Birk (2007)

_____________________________

SSG Riewer, Greg A Co 2/136 CAB
KIA 23 March 2007 Habbaniyah Iraq

Post #: 5500