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RE: General Vikes Talk - 4/2/2025 10:24:48 AM   
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One compelling reason to be excited about Rodgers? Vikings defensive coordinator Brian Flores had major conviction that he was a guy they should bring into their building, Kevin O'Connell said on Tuesday at the annual league meeting in Florida. And Flores is usually pretty accurate when he gets that way about a player, O'Connell added.

"Isaiah was a guy that Flo really identified pretty early," he said. "And historically, I haven't been doing this long with Flo, but when Flo kinda has that tone in his voice about guys — I'm not gonna mention the other ones that he has had that in his voice about — but he's been pretty darn accurate. And that guy, whether playing for us or somebody else, has immediately shown up. So no pressure on Isaiah, but he definitely got that evaluation from Flo."

KOC: "I think he's got the ability to make plays on the football, he's got some ability to do something with it when he does catch it. Whether he ends up being a part of the return game or not is really just going to come down to how the rest of our roster shapes out. Because I see Isaiah being an every-down impact guy."

https://www.si.com/nfl/vikings/news/koc-brian-flores-had-major-conviction-vikings-first-free-agent-pickup

Date check ya fools!


Yeah, Sports Illustrated and ESPN ran nationally with an April Fools story about Isaiah Rodgers...
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 4/2/2025 10:34:24 AM   
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All I am saying is this; it is very arrogant not to have a legitimate backup plan. Last year they had a legitimate backup plan. They won 14 games.

With a better interior o-line, my expectation is 15+ wins. If not, it will be a disappointing season.

What was the backup plan last year? Mullens? Rypien? Darnold being the starter was always the plan, even before McCarthy got hurt. We won 14 games because we didn't need the backup plan.

When we broke camp, Sam Darnold was the backup plan. He may have been tabbed the opening day starter, but there was no doubt that McCarthy was going to be the starter at some point in the very near future.

Thank goodness we had a backup plan.

Sam Darnold was not the backup plan. Do you really think he would have been yanked for McCarthy, given the year he was having?

Sam Darnold was never a long-term plan when they were at camp. McCarthy was the plan, which is why they drafted him.

What happened afterwards was irrelevant because McCarthy got hurt. Nobody thought Darnold was as capable as he ended up being, and I mean NOBODY! Nobody in here. Nobody in there. Nobody anywhere.

Turns out, he was. I was the only one in here claiming we need to give him a chance and that it was easily going to be the most talent he has ever had around him since being drafted. Admittedly, I never thought he would win 14 games.

When you win 14 games with that miserable-ass offensive line, you have some talent. It didn't end well. Nobody denies that.

< Message edited by Brad H -- 4/2/2025 10:37:55 AM >


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RE: General Vikes Talk - 4/2/2025 10:34:45 AM   
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Go y’all are so easy

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 4/2/2025 10:37:59 AM   
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All I am saying is this; it is very arrogant not to have a legitimate backup plan. Last year they had a legitimate backup plan. They won 14 games.

With a better interior o-line, my expectation is 15+ wins. If not, it will be a disappointing season.

What was the backup plan last year? Mullens? Rypien? Darnold being the starter was always the plan, even before McCarthy got hurt. We won 14 games because we didn't need the backup plan.

When we broke camp, Sam Darnold was the backup plan. He may have been tabbed the opening day starter, but there was no doubt that McCarthy was going to be the starter at some point in the very near future.

Thank goodness we had a backup plan.

Sam Darnold was not the backup plan. Do you really think he would have been yanked for McCarthy, given the year he was having?

Sam Darnold was never a long-term plan when they were at camp. McCarthy was the plan, which is why they drafted him.

What happened afterwards was irrelevant because McCarthy got hurt. Nobody thought Darnold was as capable as he was, and I mean NOBODY! Nobody in here. Nobody in there. Nobody anywhere.


And nobody but a JUCO hack thinks JJM is a bust out of the draft, just because he hadn’t thrown a single pass in an NFL regular season game..

Can you be any more of a hypocrite?
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 4/2/2025 10:40:20 AM   
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Go y’all are so easy



Look who's biting now?

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 4/2/2025 11:01:41 AM   
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 4/2/2025 11:05:30 AM   
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One compelling reason to be excited about Rodgers? Vikings defensive coordinator Brian Flores had major conviction that he was a guy they should bring into their building, Kevin O'Connell said on Tuesday at the annual league meeting in Florida. And Flores is usually pretty accurate when he gets that way about a player, O'Connell added.

"Isaiah was a guy that Flo really identified pretty early," he said. "And historically, I haven't been doing this long with Flo, but when Flo kinda has that tone in his voice about guys — I'm not gonna mention the other ones that he has had that in his voice about — but he's been pretty darn accurate. And that guy, whether playing for us or somebody else, has immediately shown up. So no pressure on Isaiah, but he definitely got that evaluation from Flo."

KOC: "I think he's got the ability to make plays on the football, he's got some ability to do something with it when he does catch it. Whether he ends up being a part of the return game or not is really just going to come down to how the rest of our roster shapes out. Because I see Isaiah being an every-down impact guy."

https://www.si.com/nfl/vikings/news/koc-brian-flores-had-major-conviction-vikings-first-free-agent-pickup

Date check ya fools!


Yeah, Sports Illustrated and ESPN ran nationally with an April Fools story about Isaiah Rodgers...

SI - which I had already read and thought you were referring to - clearly was writing about CB Isaiah.

https://www.si.com/nfl/vikings/news/koc-brian-flores-had-major-conviction-vikings-first-free-agent-pickup
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 4/2/2025 11:45:25 AM   
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One compelling reason to be excited about Rodgers? Vikings defensive coordinator Brian Flores had major conviction that he was a guy they should bring into their building, Kevin O'Connell said on Tuesday at the annual league meeting in Florida. And Flores is usually pretty accurate when he gets that way about a player, O'Connell added.

"Isaiah was a guy that Flo really identified pretty early," he said. "And historically, I haven't been doing this long with Flo, but when Flo kinda has that tone in his voice about guys — I'm not gonna mention the other ones that he has had that in his voice about — but he's been pretty darn accurate. And that guy, whether playing for us or somebody else, has immediately shown up. So no pressure on Isaiah, but he definitely got that evaluation from Flo."

KOC: "I think he's got the ability to make plays on the football, he's got some ability to do something with it when he does catch it. Whether he ends up being a part of the return game or not is really just going to come down to how the rest of our roster shapes out. Because I see Isaiah being an every-down impact guy."

https://www.si.com/nfl/vikings/news/koc-brian-flores-had-major-conviction-vikings-first-free-agent-pickup

Date check ya fools!


Yeah, Sports Illustrated and ESPN ran nationally with an April Fools story about Isaiah Rodgers...

SI - which I had already read and thought you were referring to - clearly was writing about CB Isaiah.

https://www.si.com/nfl/vikings/news/koc-brian-flores-had-major-conviction-vikings-first-free-agent-pickup


You think?
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 4/2/2025 1:00:40 PM  3 votes
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One compelling reason to be excited about Rodgers? Vikings defensive coordinator Brian Flores had major conviction that he was a guy they should bring into their building, Kevin O'Connell said on Tuesday at the annual league meeting in Florida. And Flores is usually pretty accurate when he gets that way about a player, O'Connell added.

"Isaiah was a guy that Flo really identified pretty early," he said. "And historically, I haven't been doing this long with Flo, but when Flo kinda has that tone in his voice about guys — I'm not gonna mention the other ones that he has had that in his voice about — but he's been pretty darn accurate. And that guy, whether playing for us or somebody else, has immediately shown up. So no pressure on Isaiah, but he definitely got that evaluation from Flo."

KOC: "I think he's got the ability to make plays on the football, he's got some ability to do something with it when he does catch it. Whether he ends up being a part of the return game or not is really just going to come down to how the rest of our roster shapes out. Because I see Isaiah being an every-down impact guy."

https://www.si.com/nfl/vikings/news/koc-brian-flores-had-major-conviction-vikings-first-free-agent-pickup

Date check ya fools!


Yeah, Sports Illustrated and ESPN ran nationally with an April Fools story about Isaiah Rodgers...

SI - which I had already read and thought you were referring to - clearly was writing about CB Isaiah.

https://www.si.com/nfl/vikings/news/koc-brian-flores-had-major-conviction-vikings-first-free-agent-pickup


You think?

April Fools no.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 4/2/2025 2:25:23 PM   
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All I am saying is this; it is very arrogant not to have a legitimate backup plan. Last year they had a legitimate backup plan. They won 14 games.

With a better interior o-line, my expectation is 15+ wins. If not, it will be a disappointing season.

What was the backup plan last year? Mullens? Rypien? Darnold being the starter was always the plan, even before McCarthy got hurt. We won 14 games because we didn't need the backup plan.

When we broke camp, Sam Darnold was the backup plan. He may have been tabbed the opening day starter, but there was no doubt that McCarthy was going to be the starter at some point in the very near future.

Thank goodness we had a backup plan.

Sam Darnold was not the backup plan. Do you really think he would have been yanked for McCarthy, given the year he was having?

Sam Darnold was never a long-term plan when they were at camp. McCarthy was the plan, which is why they drafted him.

What happened afterwards was irrelevant because McCarthy got hurt. Nobody thought Darnold was as capable as he ended up being, and I mean NOBODY! Nobody in here. Nobody in there. Nobody anywhere.

Turns out, he was. I was the only one in here claiming we need to give him a chance and that it was easily going to be the most talent he has ever had around him since being drafted. Admittedly, I never thought he would win 14 games.

When you win 14 games with that miserable-ass offensive line, you have some talent. It didn't end well. Nobody denies that.

Bullshit. There were a few of who said the same thing. I said very few QB had been set up to fail the way Darnold had through his career and he could have a breakout year. Others said the same thing.

McCarthy was the long term plan. Darnold was the plan for 2024.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 4/2/2025 7:50:10 PM   
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I believe this is from today (4-2):

Under what scenario would Rodgers become an option for the Vikings? [Besides JJ throwing 3 picks in the first game.]

McCarthy would have to demonstrate overwhelming evidence this spring that he will not be ready to play this season, either because of an injury or a complete reversal of the skills and aptitude he demonstrated during his short time in training camp last summer. Consider Rodgers a break-the-glass option in case of an emergency. Otherwise, the Vikings are committed to their plan of getting McCarthy onto the field for the 2025 season. -- Seifert
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 4/2/2025 10:58:04 PM   
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Even with a bad draft, with what the Vikings did in FA (and trades), if McCarthy is mediocre, the Vikings are a Super Bowl contender this season.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 4/3/2025 7:10:01 AM   
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All I am saying is this; it is very arrogant not to have a legitimate backup plan. Last year they had a legitimate backup plan. They won 14 games.

With a better interior o-line, my expectation is 15+ wins. If not, it will be a disappointing season.

What was the backup plan last year? Mullens? Rypien? Darnold being the starter was always the plan, even before McCarthy got hurt. We won 14 games because we didn't need the backup plan.

When we broke camp, Sam Darnold was the backup plan. He may have been tabbed the opening day starter, but there was no doubt that McCarthy was going to be the starter at some point in the very near future.

Thank goodness we had a backup plan.

Sam Darnold was not the backup plan. Do you really think he would have been yanked for McCarthy, given the year he was having?

Sam Darnold was never a long-term plan when they were at camp. McCarthy was the plan, which is why they drafted him.

What happened afterwards was irrelevant because McCarthy got hurt. Nobody thought Darnold was as capable as he ended up being, and I mean NOBODY! Nobody in here. Nobody in there. Nobody anywhere.

Turns out, he was. I was the only one in here claiming we need to give him a chance and that it was easily going to be the most talent he has ever had around him since being drafted. Admittedly, I never thought he would win 14 games.

When you win 14 games with that miserable-ass offensive line, you have some talent. It didn't end well. Nobody denies that.

Bullshit. There were a few of who said the same thing. I said very few QB had been set up to fail the way Darnold had through his career and he could have a breakout year. Others said the same thing.

McCarthy was the long term plan. Darnold was the plan for 2024.

We'll have to agree to disagree on that. I don't think anyone saw Sam Darnold starting all 17 games in 2024. I know I didn't. As for management, I can't imagine them thinking McCarthy was not going to be playing at some point. Nothing on Darnold's resume said 17-game starter.

Anybody else out there think that McCarthy was going to be the starter at some point in 2024 before he got hurt?

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 4/3/2025 7:13:11 AM   
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Even with a bad draft, with what the Vikings did in FA (and trades), if McCarthy is mediocre, the Vikings are a Super Bowl contender this season.

Better be. The previous guy won 14 games with a horrid offensive line and had them four quarters away from the top seed in the NFC.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 4/3/2025 7:15:49 AM   
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All I am saying is this; it is very arrogant not to have a legitimate backup plan. Last year they had a legitimate backup plan. They won 14 games.

With a better interior o-line, my expectation is 15+ wins. If not, it will be a disappointing season.

What was the backup plan last year? Mullens? Rypien? Darnold being the starter was always the plan, even before McCarthy got hurt. We won 14 games because we didn't need the backup plan.

When we broke camp, Sam Darnold was the backup plan. He may have been tabbed the opening day starter, but there was no doubt that McCarthy was going to be the starter at some point in the very near future.

Thank goodness we had a backup plan.

Sam Darnold was not the backup plan. Do you really think he would have been yanked for McCarthy, given the year he was having?

Sam Darnold was never a long-term plan when they were at camp. McCarthy was the plan, which is why they drafted him.

What happened afterwards was irrelevant because McCarthy got hurt. Nobody thought Darnold was as capable as he ended up being, and I mean NOBODY! Nobody in here. Nobody in there. Nobody anywhere.

Turns out, he was. I was the only one in here claiming we need to give him a chance and that it was easily going to be the most talent he has ever had around him since being drafted. Admittedly, I never thought he would win 14 games.

When you win 14 games with that miserable-ass offensive line, you have some talent. It didn't end well. Nobody denies that.

Bullshit. There were a few of who said the same thing. I said very few QB had been set up to fail the way Darnold had through his career and he could have a breakout year. Others said the same thing.

McCarthy was the long term plan. Darnold was the plan for 2024.

We'll have to agree to disagree on that. I don't think anyone saw Sam Darnold starting all 17 games in 2024. I know I didn't.



I always assumed it would be based on how well Darnold played. Then JJ had the tear in his meniscus and I assumed it would be Darnold for the year because they weren't going to go with Mullens or Rypien...

And Darnold surprised a lot of people by playing well. Though I did have a positive vibes about him because he'd never played for a good team with halfway decent receivers. He was given a gift of an opportunity and he didn't miss it.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 4/3/2025 7:25:49 AM   
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You have to go back to 2017 to find any good quarterback drafted high that didn't start a game in his first year (Mahomes & Brissett). And Brissett was a third rounder. Even Malik Willis and Jordan Love started games, and Love had Rodgers in front of him and was never in the plans to start.

Hendon Hooker was drafted by the Lions in 2023 in the third round and he was coming off an ACL injury and placed on the active/Non-Football Injury list before the season. He didn't play. Hopefully the hopes for McCarthy were higher than him, otherwise, some of you guys are full of shit.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 4/3/2025 7:50:50 AM   
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It's not foolish love. Packer players love playing in MN, what's the prob with that?

The "too many men on the field" followed by the interception, how can you blame anyone for thinking it'll never happen? But we carry on - especially that all those people are gone, not to be heard from again ...


I don't know if you remember Tavaris or not....but we moved up and down the field and kicked 6 FGs against Indy and the defense shutdown Indy for 3 quarters and still lost. That day was when a change was coming.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 4/3/2025 7:55:48 AM   
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All I am saying is this; it is very arrogant not to have a legitimate backup plan. Last year they had a legitimate backup plan. They won 14 games.

With a better interior o-line, my expectation is 15+ wins. If not, it will be a disappointing season.

What was the backup plan last year? Mullens? Rypien? Darnold being the starter was always the plan, even before McCarthy got hurt. We won 14 games because we didn't need the backup plan.

When we broke camp, Sam Darnold was the backup plan. He may have been tabbed the opening day starter, but there was no doubt that McCarthy was going to be the starter at some point in the very near future.

Thank goodness we had a backup plan.

Sam Darnold was not the backup plan. Do you really think he would have been yanked for McCarthy, given the year he was having?

Sam Darnold was never a long-term plan when they were at camp. McCarthy was the plan, which is why they drafted him.

What happened afterwards was irrelevant because McCarthy got hurt. Nobody thought Darnold was as capable as he ended up being, and I mean NOBODY! Nobody in here. Nobody in there. Nobody anywhere.

Turns out, he was. I was the only one in here claiming we need to give him a chance and that it was easily going to be the most talent he has ever had around him since being drafted. Admittedly, I never thought he would win 14 games.

When you win 14 games with that miserable-ass offensive line, you have some talent. It didn't end well. Nobody denies that.


Why? You wait 2 weeks after we are building an amazing team with that money saved and you double down on the past. Each year is a new year Brad.

Who cares about the season of 2024 after the early FA we just had....I am very happy Sam Darnold is gone and the way we have used that money so far. It is the same as you should have been after Kirk was cut and we signed all those FA including Sam.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 4/3/2025 7:57:08 AM   
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All I am saying is this; it is very arrogant not to have a legitimate backup plan. Last year they had a legitimate backup plan. They won 14 games.

With a better interior o-line, my expectation is 15+ wins. If not, it will be a disappointing season.

What was the backup plan last year? Mullens? Rypien? Darnold being the starter was always the plan, even before McCarthy got hurt. We won 14 games because we didn't need the backup plan.

When we broke camp, Sam Darnold was the backup plan. He may have been tabbed the opening day starter, but there was no doubt that McCarthy was going to be the starter at some point in the very near future.

Thank goodness we had a backup plan.

Sam Darnold was not the backup plan. Do you really think he would have been yanked for McCarthy, given the year he was having?

Sam Darnold was never a long-term plan when they were at camp. McCarthy was the plan, which is why they drafted him.

What happened afterwards was irrelevant because McCarthy got hurt. Nobody thought Darnold was as capable as he ended up being, and I mean NOBODY! Nobody in here. Nobody in there. Nobody anywhere.

Turns out, he was. I was the only one in here claiming we need to give him a chance and that it was easily going to be the most talent he has ever had around him since being drafted. Admittedly, I never thought he would win 14 games.

When you win 14 games with that miserable-ass offensive line, you have some talent. It didn't end well. Nobody denies that.


Why? You wait 2 weeks after we are building an amazing team with that money saved and you double down on the past. Each year is a new year Brad.

I asked what the backup plan was at quarterback. Got no answers, only criticisms.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 4/3/2025 8:01:51 AM   
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All I am saying is this; it is very arrogant not to have a legitimate backup plan. Last year they had a legitimate backup plan. They won 14 games.

With a better interior o-line, my expectation is 15+ wins. If not, it will be a disappointing season.

What was the backup plan last year? Mullens? Rypien? Darnold being the starter was always the plan, even before McCarthy got hurt. We won 14 games because we didn't need the backup plan.

When we broke camp, Sam Darnold was the backup plan. He may have been tabbed the opening day starter, but there was no doubt that McCarthy was going to be the starter at some point in the very near future.

Thank goodness we had a backup plan.

Sam Darnold was not the backup plan. Do you really think he would have been yanked for McCarthy, given the year he was having?

Sam Darnold was never a long-term plan when they were at camp. McCarthy was the plan, which is why they drafted him.

What happened afterwards was irrelevant because McCarthy got hurt. Nobody thought Darnold was as capable as he ended up being, and I mean NOBODY! Nobody in here. Nobody in there. Nobody anywhere.

Turns out, he was. I was the only one in here claiming we need to give him a chance and that it was easily going to be the most talent he has ever had around him since being drafted. Admittedly, I never thought he would win 14 games.

When you win 14 games with that miserable-ass offensive line, you have some talent. It didn't end well. Nobody denies that.


Why? You wait 2 weeks after we are building an amazing team with that money saved and you double down on the past. Each year is a new year Brad.

I asked what the backup plan was at quarterback. Got no answers, only criticisms.


You are jumping the gun...we haven't even hit the draft yet. That is 3 weeks to go. We aren't even finished with phase 1 of a 3 or 4 phase offseason. You still are acting butt hurt.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 4/3/2025 8:02:12 AM   
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It's not foolish love. Packer players love playing in MN, what's the prob with that?

The "too many men on the field" followed by the interception, how can you blame anyone for thinking it'll never happen? But we carry on - especially that all those people are gone, not to be heard from again ...


I don't know if you remember Tavaris or not....but we moved up and down the field and kicked 6 FGs against Indy and the defense shutdown Indy for 3 quarters and still lost. That day was when a change was coming.


No idea what your point is but we kicked 5 FG’s…missed another and only kept Indy in check the 1st half.

So good job making no point with faulty information.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 4/3/2025 8:06:24 AM   
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It's not foolish love. Packer players love playing in MN, what's the prob with that?

The "too many men on the field" followed by the interception, how can you blame anyone for thinking it'll never happen? But we carry on - especially that all those people are gone, not to be heard from again ...


I don't know if you remember Tavaris or not....but we moved up and down the field and kicked 6 FGs against Indy and the defense shutdown Indy for 3 quarters and still lost. That day was when a change was coming.


No idea what your point is but we kicked 5 FG’s…missed another and only kept Indy in check the 1st half.

So good job making no point with faulty information.


Why was Indy in the game? QB play. If I remember right AP was a force.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 4/3/2025 8:10:12 AM   
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All I am saying is this; it is very arrogant not to have a legitimate backup plan. Last year they had a legitimate backup plan. They won 14 games.

With a better interior o-line, my expectation is 15+ wins. If not, it will be a disappointing season.

What was the backup plan last year? Mullens? Rypien? Darnold being the starter was always the plan, even before McCarthy got hurt. We won 14 games because we didn't need the backup plan.

When we broke camp, Sam Darnold was the backup plan. He may have been tabbed the opening day starter, but there was no doubt that McCarthy was going to be the starter at some point in the very near future.

Thank goodness we had a backup plan.

Sam Darnold was not the backup plan. Do you really think he would have been yanked for McCarthy, given the year he was having?

Sam Darnold was never a long-term plan when they were at camp. McCarthy was the plan, which is why they drafted him.

What happened afterwards was irrelevant because McCarthy got hurt. Nobody thought Darnold was as capable as he ended up being, and I mean NOBODY! Nobody in here. Nobody in there. Nobody anywhere.

Turns out, he was. I was the only one in here claiming we need to give him a chance and that it was easily going to be the most talent he has ever had around him since being drafted. Admittedly, I never thought he would win 14 games.

When you win 14 games with that miserable-ass offensive line, you have some talent. It didn't end well. Nobody denies that.


Why? You wait 2 weeks after we are building an amazing team with that money saved and you double down on the past. Each year is a new year Brad.

I asked what the backup plan was at quarterback. Got no answers, only criticisms.


You are jumping the gun...we haven't even hit the draft yet. That is 3 weeks to go. We aren't even finished with phase 1 of a 3 or 4 phase offseason. You still are acting butt hurt.

Is that right? A 3-or-4 phase plan huh? You care to elaborate on those 3-4 phases, because nobody from Vikings management has ever mentioned them?

We saw what happened to Miami last season when they didn't have a backup plan. The offense was an absolute disaster after Tua got hurt.

But it's good they have this 3-or-4 phase plan that nobody seems to be aware of. I feel better now.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 4/3/2025 8:11:31 AM   
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All I am saying is this; it is very arrogant not to have a legitimate backup plan. Last year they had a legitimate backup plan. They won 14 games.

With a better interior o-line, my expectation is 15+ wins. If not, it will be a disappointing season.

What was the backup plan last year? Mullens? Rypien? Darnold being the starter was always the plan, even before McCarthy got hurt. We won 14 games because we didn't need the backup plan.

When we broke camp, Sam Darnold was the backup plan. He may have been tabbed the opening day starter, but there was no doubt that McCarthy was going to be the starter at some point in the very near future.

Thank goodness we had a backup plan.

Sam Darnold was not the backup plan. Do you really think he would have been yanked for McCarthy, given the year he was having?

Sam Darnold was never a long-term plan when they were at camp. McCarthy was the plan, which is why they drafted him.

What happened afterwards was irrelevant because McCarthy got hurt. Nobody thought Darnold was as capable as he ended up being, and I mean NOBODY! Nobody in here. Nobody in there. Nobody anywhere.

Turns out, he was. I was the only one in here claiming we need to give him a chance and that it was easily going to be the most talent he has ever had around him since being drafted. Admittedly, I never thought he would win 14 games.

When you win 14 games with that miserable-ass offensive line, you have some talent. It didn't end well. Nobody denies that.


Why? You wait 2 weeks after we are building an amazing team with that money saved and you double down on the past. Each year is a new year Brad.

I asked what the backup plan was at quarterback. Got no answers, only criticisms.


You are jumping the gun...we haven't even hit the draft yet. That is 3 weeks to go. We aren't even finished with phase 1 of a 3 or 4 phase offseason. You still are acting butt hurt.

Is that right? A 3-or-4 phase plan huh? You care to elaborate on those 3-4 phases, because nobody from Vikings management has ever mentioned them?

We saw what happened to Miami last season when they didn't have a backup plan. The offense was an absolute disaster after Tua got hurt.

But it's good they have this 3-or-4 phase plan that nobody seems to be aware of. I feel better now.


Every offseason is 3 or 4 phases. FA, Draft, Post Draft FA, Pre TC Cuts. You know it and everyone just sees you are butt hurt.

Oh and there was priority for Sam. He was signed in the 1st Phase last year. He signed March 12th last year. Sam was actually a priority for multiple teams.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 4/3/2025 8:17:49 AM   
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All I am saying is this; it is very arrogant not to have a legitimate backup plan. Last year they had a legitimate backup plan. They won 14 games.

With a better interior o-line, my expectation is 15+ wins. If not, it will be a disappointing season.

What was the backup plan last year? Mullens? Rypien? Darnold being the starter was always the plan, even before McCarthy got hurt. We won 14 games because we didn't need the backup plan.

When we broke camp, Sam Darnold was the backup plan. He may have been tabbed the opening day starter, but there was no doubt that McCarthy was going to be the starter at some point in the very near future.

Thank goodness we had a backup plan.

Sam Darnold was not the backup plan. Do you really think he would have been yanked for McCarthy, given the year he was having?

Sam Darnold was never a long-term plan when they were at camp. McCarthy was the plan, which is why they drafted him.

What happened afterwards was irrelevant because McCarthy got hurt. Nobody thought Darnold was as capable as he ended up being, and I mean NOBODY! Nobody in here. Nobody in there. Nobody anywhere.

Turns out, he was. I was the only one in here claiming we need to give him a chance and that it was easily going to be the most talent he has ever had around him since being drafted. Admittedly, I never thought he would win 14 games.

When you win 14 games with that miserable-ass offensive line, you have some talent. It didn't end well. Nobody denies that.


Why? You wait 2 weeks after we are building an amazing team with that money saved and you double down on the past. Each year is a new year Brad.

I asked what the backup plan was at quarterback. Got no answers, only criticisms.


You are jumping the gun...we haven't even hit the draft yet. That is 3 weeks to go. We aren't even finished with phase 1 of a 3 or 4 phase offseason. You still are acting butt hurt.

Is that right? A 3-or-4 phase plan huh? You care to elaborate on those 3-4 phases, because nobody from Vikings management has ever mentioned them?

We saw what happened to Miami last season when they didn't have a backup plan. The offense was an absolute disaster after Tua got hurt.

But it's good they have this 3-or-4 phase plan that nobody seems to be aware of. I feel better now.


Every offseason is 3 or 4 phases. FA, Draft, Post Draft FA, Pre TC Cuts. You know it and everyone just sees you are butt hurt.

Oh and there was priority for Sam. He was signed in the 1st Phase last year.

I don't get butt-hurt over much. Not sure why you keep saying that.

I'm looking for a backup plan at quarterback. The current starter has zero lifetime completions. I don't think it is too much to ask for. For that, yes, I am butt hurt or perhaps perplexed.

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