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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 2/10/2026 7:28:57 AM   
Brad H


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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: marty

Racists should always have their own halftime show

We already knew America has lots of them, but they will be the minority in 10-20 years, even after a misguided mass deportation.


You think it is racist to not watch the NFL Halftime Show because it is produced by a Satanic Pedophile and best buddy of Sean Combs?
Let's talk racist.....Who was the last White person to headline for ROC Nation at the Super Bowl? Exact reasons why TPUSA had a Halftime show.....the racist is also Jay Z. He has only had Eminem on since he took over in the last 7 years.....

How hard is it to be a star these days?

Just say controversial stuff and find a good sound man who can run the Autotuner.

Yep, that's it.

That is arguably the dumbest statement on the board this month.

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 2/10/2026 8:21:13 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

quote:

ORIGINAL: marty

Racists should always have their own halftime show

We already knew America has lots of them, but they will be the minority in 10-20 years, even after a misguided mass deportation.


You think it is racist to not watch the NFL Halftime Show because it is produced by a Satanic Pedophile and best buddy of Sean Combs?
Let's talk racist.....Who was the last White person to headline for ROC Nation at the Super Bowl? Exact reasons why TPUSA had a Halftime show.....the racist is also Jay Z. He has only had Eminem on since he took over in the last 7 years.....

How hard is it to be a star these days?

Just say controversial stuff and find a good sound man who can run the Autotuner.

Yep, that's it.

That is arguably the dumbest statement on the board this month.


You haven't seen some of the idiotic Social Media superstars have you? Mark is not wrong. Hawk Tuah girl is a prime example.

< Message edited by Phil Riewer -- 2/10/2026 8:25:35 AM >


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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 2/10/2026 9:19:04 AM   
Brad H


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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: marty

Racists should always have their own halftime show

We already knew America has lots of them, but they will be the minority in 10-20 years, even after a misguided mass deportation.


You think it is racist to not watch the NFL Halftime Show because it is produced by a Satanic Pedophile and best buddy of Sean Combs?
Let's talk racist.....Who was the last White person to headline for ROC Nation at the Super Bowl? Exact reasons why TPUSA had a Halftime show.....the racist is also Jay Z. He has only had Eminem on since he took over in the last 7 years.....

How hard is it to be a star these days?

Just say controversial stuff and find a good sound man who can run the Autotuner.

Yep, that's it.

That is arguably the dumbest statement on the board this month.


You haven't seen some of the idiotic Social Media superstars have you? Mark is not wrong. Hawk Tuah girl is a prime example.

Phil:

I live in an area that is very rich in culture. I interact every day with people in the entertainment industry.

Please, just stop. You sound like a small-town fool. Your likelihood of ever interacting (outside of social media) with someone trying to make it in the industry is basically ZERO.

Stay in your lane with sugar beets and racism.

< Message edited by Brad H -- 2/10/2026 9:21:46 AM >


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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 2/10/2026 9:19:48 AM   
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So hoping for racism to derail someone's career is better. Got it.


No, Richard, I don't consider being stranded as a DC in Minnesota equivalent to an entire career being derailed. I think Minnesota is a good spot for him, and after he wins a Super Bowl with the Vikings, he can get back to being a head coach.

I also believe racism is just one element, but am hoping there is still just enough of it present, along with just the right amounts of other things to keep Bflo in Minnesota as a DC until the Vikings win a SB.

Do I wish that racism played a really strong role, and a role that was so strong that he couldn't coach at a pro or college level, had his career derailed, no, I do not hope for that.

< Message edited by marty -- 2/10/2026 9:21:06 AM >


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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 2/10/2026 9:32:21 AM   
Mark Anderson

 

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: marty

Racists should always have their own halftime show

We already knew America has lots of them, but they will be the minority in 10-20 years, even after a misguided mass deportation.


You think it is racist to not watch the NFL Halftime Show because it is produced by a Satanic Pedophile and best buddy of Sean Combs?
Let's talk racist.....Who was the last White person to headline for ROC Nation at the Super Bowl? Exact reasons why TPUSA had a Halftime show.....the racist is also Jay Z. He has only had Eminem on since he took over in the last 7 years.....

How hard is it to be a star these days?

Just say controversial stuff and find a good sound man who can run the Autotuner.

Yep, that's it.

That is arguably the dumbest statement on the board this month.

Go on youtube. Listen to the guy without autotune. He really shouldn't be singled out though. That's the way it is these days with all the pop stars.
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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 2/10/2026 9:35:10 AM   
Brad H


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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

quote:

ORIGINAL: Brad H

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

quote:

ORIGINAL: marty

Racists should always have their own halftime show

We already knew America has lots of them, but they will be the minority in 10-20 years, even after a misguided mass deportation.


You think it is racist to not watch the NFL Halftime Show because it is produced by a Satanic Pedophile and best buddy of Sean Combs?
Let's talk racist.....Who was the last White person to headline for ROC Nation at the Super Bowl? Exact reasons why TPUSA had a Halftime show.....the racist is also Jay Z. He has only had Eminem on since he took over in the last 7 years.....

How hard is it to be a star these days?

Just say controversial stuff and find a good sound man who can run the Autotuner.

Yep, that's it.

That is arguably the dumbest statement on the board this month.

Go on youtube. Listen to the guy without autotune. He really shouldn't be singled out though. That's the way it is these days with all the pop stars.

Again, that's not the way it is with all pop stars. That's an extremely uninformed statement.

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 2/10/2026 9:35:16 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

quote:

ORIGINAL: marty

Racists should always have their own halftime show

We already knew America has lots of them, but they will be the minority in 10-20 years, even after a misguided mass deportation.


You think it is racist to not watch the NFL Halftime Show because it is produced by a Satanic Pedophile and best buddy of Sean Combs?
Let's talk racist.....Who was the last White person to headline for ROC Nation at the Super Bowl? Exact reasons why TPUSA had a Halftime show.....the racist is also Jay Z. He has only had Eminem on since he took over in the last 7 years.....

How hard is it to be a star these days?

Just say controversial stuff and find a good sound man who can run the Autotuner.

Yep, that's it.

That is arguably the dumbest statement on the board this month.


You haven't seen some of the idiotic Social Media superstars have you? Mark is not wrong. Hawk Tuah girl is a prime example.

Phil:

I live in an area that is very rich in culture. I interact every day with people in the entertainment industry.

Please, just stop. You sound like a small-town fool. Your likelihood of ever interacting (outside of social media) with someone trying to make it in the industry is basically ZERO.

Stay in your lane with sugar beets and racism.

Give me the small town fool over the fake entertainment shyt any day of the week. You fit right in I'm sure.
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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 2/10/2026 9:36:27 AM   
Mark Anderson

 

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

quote:

ORIGINAL: marty

Racists should always have their own halftime show

We already knew America has lots of them, but they will be the minority in 10-20 years, even after a misguided mass deportation.


You think it is racist to not watch the NFL Halftime Show because it is produced by a Satanic Pedophile and best buddy of Sean Combs?
Let's talk racist.....Who was the last White person to headline for ROC Nation at the Super Bowl? Exact reasons why TPUSA had a Halftime show.....the racist is also Jay Z. He has only had Eminem on since he took over in the last 7 years.....

How hard is it to be a star these days?

Just say controversial stuff and find a good sound man who can run the Autotuner.

Yep, that's it.

That is arguably the dumbest statement on the board this month.

Go on youtube. Listen to the guy without autotune. He really shouldn't be singled out though. That's the way it is these days with all the pop stars.

Again, that's not the way it is with all pop stars. That's an extremely uninformed statement.

Unless Bad Bunny's youtube is doctored, I know he is helped by autotune.

Probably not all pop stars but a good number.

< Message edited by Mark Anderson -- 2/10/2026 9:46:15 AM >
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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 2/10/2026 9:40:09 AM   
Brad H


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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Brad H

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

quote:

ORIGINAL: marty

Racists should always have their own halftime show

We already knew America has lots of them, but they will be the minority in 10-20 years, even after a misguided mass deportation.


You think it is racist to not watch the NFL Halftime Show because it is produced by a Satanic Pedophile and best buddy of Sean Combs?
Let's talk racist.....Who was the last White person to headline for ROC Nation at the Super Bowl? Exact reasons why TPUSA had a Halftime show.....the racist is also Jay Z. He has only had Eminem on since he took over in the last 7 years.....

How hard is it to be a star these days?

Just say controversial stuff and find a good sound man who can run the Autotuner.

Yep, that's it.

That is arguably the dumbest statement on the board this month.


You haven't seen some of the idiotic Social Media superstars have you? Mark is not wrong. Hawk Tuah girl is a prime example.

Phil:

I live in an area that is very rich in culture. I interact every day with people in the entertainment industry.

Please, just stop. You sound like a small-town fool. Your likelihood of ever interacting (outside of social media) with someone trying to make it in the industry is basically ZERO.

Stay in your lane with sugar beets and racism.

Give me the small town fool over the fake entertainment shyt any day of the week. You fit right in I'm sure.

That's fine. You can like what you like. Nobody is stopping you. But you can't make up your own facts or talk with confidence about something you know practically nothing about. It makes you sound petty and small.

Like I said yesterday. It was not my favorite halftime show. I gave it a 7.5 out of 10. Colorful. Good message. Lots of dancing and flare.

Past that, I understand that the NFL is trying to globalize the game and that Bad Bunny is a global sensation. It's all about ratings.

Your real beef shouldn't be with the people that watched it, but rather the people that sponsored and promoted it (the NFL).

To me, it's the 20 minutes between halves. I show up to watch football. I could care less who performs at the half.

< Message edited by Brad H -- 2/10/2026 9:43:46 AM >


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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 2/10/2026 9:48:49 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Brad H

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

quote:

ORIGINAL: marty

Racists should always have their own halftime show

We already knew America has lots of them, but they will be the minority in 10-20 years, even after a misguided mass deportation.


You think it is racist to not watch the NFL Halftime Show because it is produced by a Satanic Pedophile and best buddy of Sean Combs?
Let's talk racist.....Who was the last White person to headline for ROC Nation at the Super Bowl? Exact reasons why TPUSA had a Halftime show.....the racist is also Jay Z. He has only had Eminem on since he took over in the last 7 years.....

How hard is it to be a star these days?

Just say controversial stuff and find a good sound man who can run the Autotuner.

Yep, that's it.

That is arguably the dumbest statement on the board this month.


You haven't seen some of the idiotic Social Media superstars have you? Mark is not wrong. Hawk Tuah girl is a prime example.

Phil:

I live in an area that is very rich in culture. I interact every day with people in the entertainment industry.

Please, just stop. You sound like a small-town fool. Your likelihood of ever interacting (outside of social media) with someone trying to make it in the industry is basically ZERO.

Stay in your lane with sugar beets and racism.

Give me the small town fool over the fake entertainment shyt any day of the week. You fit right in I'm sure.

That's fine. You can like what you like. Nobody is stopping you. But you can't make up your own facts or talk with confidence about something you know practically nothing about. It makes you sound petty and small.

Like I said yesterday. It was not my favorite halftime show. I gave it a 7.5 out of 10. Colorful. Good message. Lots of dancing and flare.

Past that, I understand that the NFL is trying to globalize the game and that Bad Bunny is a global sensation. It's all about ratings.

Your real beef shouldn't be with the people that watched it, but rather the people that sponsored and promoted it (the NFL).

To me, it's the 20 minutes between halves. I show up to watch football. I could care less who performs at the half.

Good post Brad. Very sensible.
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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 2/10/2026 9:54:15 AM   
Mark Anderson

 

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Brad H

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

quote:

ORIGINAL: marty

Racists should always have their own halftime show

We already knew America has lots of them, but they will be the minority in 10-20 years, even after a misguided mass deportation.


You think it is racist to not watch the NFL Halftime Show because it is produced by a Satanic Pedophile and best buddy of Sean Combs?
Let's talk racist.....Who was the last White person to headline for ROC Nation at the Super Bowl? Exact reasons why TPUSA had a Halftime show.....the racist is also Jay Z. He has only had Eminem on since he took over in the last 7 years.....

How hard is it to be a star these days?

Just say controversial stuff and find a good sound man who can run the Autotuner.

Yep, that's it.

That is arguably the dumbest statement on the board this month.


You haven't seen some of the idiotic Social Media superstars have you? Mark is not wrong. Hawk Tuah girl is a prime example.

Phil:

I live in an area that is very rich in culture. I interact every day with people in the entertainment industry.

Please, just stop. You sound like a small-town fool. Your likelihood of ever interacting (outside of social media) with someone trying to make it in the industry is basically ZERO.

Stay in your lane with sugar beets and racism.

Give me the small town fool over the fake entertainment shyt any day of the week. You fit right in I'm sure.

That's fine. You can like what you like. Nobody is stopping you. But you can't make up your own facts or talk with confidence about something you know practically nothing about. It makes you sound petty and small.

Like I said yesterday. It was not my favorite halftime show. I gave it a 7.5 out of 10. Colorful. Good message. Lots of dancing and flare.

Past that, I understand that the NFL is trying to globalize the game and that Bad Bunny is a global sensation. It's all about ratings.

Your real beef shouldn't be with the people that watched it, but rather the people that sponsored and promoted it (the NFL).

To me, it's the 20 minutes between halves. I show up to watch football. I could care less who performs at the half.

I agree. Watch if you want to watch.

I'm just pointing out that AI can turn a person into a superstar. Kind of like Milli Vanilli back in the day. But, instead of real people you use a computer to help out the 'chosen' performer or performers.
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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 2/10/2026 9:55:32 AM   
Phil Riewer


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Brad H

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

quote:

ORIGINAL: marty

Racists should always have their own halftime show

We already knew America has lots of them, but they will be the minority in 10-20 years, even after a misguided mass deportation.


You think it is racist to not watch the NFL Halftime Show because it is produced by a Satanic Pedophile and best buddy of Sean Combs?
Let's talk racist.....Who was the last White person to headline for ROC Nation at the Super Bowl? Exact reasons why TPUSA had a Halftime show.....the racist is also Jay Z. He has only had Eminem on since he took over in the last 7 years.....

How hard is it to be a star these days?

Just say controversial stuff and find a good sound man who can run the Autotuner.

Yep, that's it.

That is arguably the dumbest statement on the board this month.


You haven't seen some of the idiotic Social Media superstars have you? Mark is not wrong. Hawk Tuah girl is a prime example.

Phil:

I live in an area that is very rich in culture. I interact every day with people in the entertainment industry.

Please, just stop. You sound like a small-town fool. Your likelihood of ever interacting (outside of social media) with someone trying to make it in the industry is basically ZERO.

Stay in your lane with sugar beets and racism.


Weird....Mr. Bully and Bigot has finally said what he truly feels and shows his colors. Ill let you in on one thing.....they (entertainers) are just normal people. Brad thinks he isn't just a normal, average, person. Sorry you are.

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 2/10/2026 10:02:03 AM   
Brad H


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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

quote:

ORIGINAL: marty

Racists should always have their own halftime show

We already knew America has lots of them, but they will be the minority in 10-20 years, even after a misguided mass deportation.


You think it is racist to not watch the NFL Halftime Show because it is produced by a Satanic Pedophile and best buddy of Sean Combs?
Let's talk racist.....Who was the last White person to headline for ROC Nation at the Super Bowl? Exact reasons why TPUSA had a Halftime show.....the racist is also Jay Z. He has only had Eminem on since he took over in the last 7 years.....

How hard is it to be a star these days?

Just say controversial stuff and find a good sound man who can run the Autotuner.

Yep, that's it.

That is arguably the dumbest statement on the board this month.


You haven't seen some of the idiotic Social Media superstars have you? Mark is not wrong. Hawk Tuah girl is a prime example.

Phil:

I live in an area that is very rich in culture. I interact every day with people in the entertainment industry.

Please, just stop. You sound like a small-town fool. Your likelihood of ever interacting (outside of social media) with someone trying to make it in the industry is basically ZERO.

Stay in your lane with sugar beets and racism.

Give me the small town fool over the fake entertainment shyt any day of the week. You fit right in I'm sure.

That's fine. You can like what you like. Nobody is stopping you. But you can't make up your own facts or talk with confidence about something you know practically nothing about. It makes you sound petty and small.

Like I said yesterday. It was not my favorite halftime show. I gave it a 7.5 out of 10. Colorful. Good message. Lots of dancing and flare.

Past that, I understand that the NFL is trying to globalize the game and that Bad Bunny is a global sensation. It's all about ratings.

Your real beef shouldn't be with the people that watched it, but rather the people that sponsored and promoted it (the NFL).

To me, it's the 20 minutes between halves. I show up to watch football. I could care less who performs at the half.

I agree. Watch if you want to watch.

I'm just pointing out that AI can turn a person into a superstar. Kind of like Milli Vanilli back in the day. But, instead of real people you use a computer to help out the 'chosen' performer or performers.

You will never hear me promoting AI. It has its uses. In the wrong hands it can be very dangerous.

People should be very concerned about our current leadership and the use of AI. They have a loooooooooooooooong history of lying and making shit up. Anybody thinking they are above the fray when it comes to making shit up aren't looking at it through clear lenses. If they get the opportunity to steal an election or twist the facts, they will be the first ones taking advantage. They even coined the term Alternative Facts. They don't even hide from it.

Donald Trump has 50+ years of experience in ripping people off. It's nearly his entire adult history, and well documented. Why he is suddenly put on some sort of pedestal is beyond my comprehension. As a country, we get what we deserve by electing him.

I could make a case that he's our first AI president. People voting him have been sucked in by some sort of fake narrative. He's a fraud. He's a fake. He's a crook. He's a liar. He's a cheat. Been that way for 50+ years.

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 2/10/2026 10:03:12 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: marty

Racists should always have their own halftime show

We already knew America has lots of them, but they will be the minority in 10-20 years, even after a misguided mass deportation.


You think it is racist to not watch the NFL Halftime Show because it is produced by a Satanic Pedophile and best buddy of Sean Combs?
Let's talk racist.....Who was the last White person to headline for ROC Nation at the Super Bowl? Exact reasons why TPUSA had a Halftime show.....the racist is also Jay Z. He has only had Eminem on since he took over in the last 7 years.....

How hard is it to be a star these days?

Just say controversial stuff and find a good sound man who can run the Autotuner.

Yep, that's it.

That is arguably the dumbest statement on the board this month.


You haven't seen some of the idiotic Social Media superstars have you? Mark is not wrong. Hawk Tuah girl is a prime example.

Phil:

I live in an area that is very rich in culture. I interact every day with people in the entertainment industry.

Please, just stop. You sound like a small-town fool. Your likelihood of ever interacting (outside of social media) with someone trying to make it in the industry is basically ZERO.

Stay in your lane with sugar beets and racism.

Give me the small town fool over the fake entertainment shyt any day of the week. You fit right in I'm sure.

That's fine. You can like what you like. Nobody is stopping you. But you can't make up your own facts or talk with confidence about something you know practically nothing about. It makes you sound petty and small.

Like I said yesterday. It was not my favorite halftime show. I gave it a 7.5 out of 10. Colorful. Good message. Lots of dancing and flare.

Past that, I understand that the NFL is trying to globalize the game and that Bad Bunny is a global sensation. It's all about ratings.

Your real beef shouldn't be with the people that watched it, but rather the people that sponsored and promoted it (the NFL).

To me, it's the 20 minutes between halves. I show up to watch football. I could care less who performs at the half.

I agree. Watch if you want to watch.

I'm just pointing out that AI can turn a person into a superstar. Kind of like Milli Vanilli back in the day. But, instead of real people you use a computer to help out the 'chosen' performer or performers.

You will never hear me promoting AI.

Agree
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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 2/10/2026 10:32:02 AM   
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When looking at the Seahawks and their roster construction. Yes drafting well but the Wilson trade should be right up there with the Herschel Walker trade. Dumping Wilson's salary, changing the culture and moving on at the perfect time from a declining player is one thing. Then the haul, and then the draft. And Wilson was so bad, the Broncos yielded the 5th overall pick in 2023. This is what the Seahawks got in return.

- LT Charles Cross
- CB Devon Witherspoon
- DE Boye Mafe
- OLB Derrick Hall
- Some depth/special teams guys
- They also got TE Noah Fant, DE Shelby Harris and Drew Lock. Fant was mild disappointment, Harris was ok and Lock is still holding the clipboard.
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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 2/10/2026 11:09:48 AM   
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I never realized the Vikes got Jake Reed out of the Walker trade. Probably the best player in the deal aside from Emmitt and Woodson.
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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 2/10/2026 11:37:49 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Rob Viking

When looking at the Seahawks and their roster construction. Yes drafting well but the Wilson trade should be right up there with the Herschel Walker trade. Dumping Wilson's salary, changing the culture and moving on at the perfect time from a declining player is one thing. Then the haul, and then the draft. And Wilson was so bad, the Broncos yielded the 5th overall pick in 2023. This is what the Seahawks got in return.

- LT Charles Cross
- CB Devon Witherspoon
- DE Boye Mafe
- OLB Derrick Hall
- Some depth/special teams guys
- They also got TE Noah Fant, DE Shelby Harris and Drew Lock. Fant was mild disappointment, Harris was ok and Lock is still holding the clipboard.



This is a great post that I'm going turn upside down to prove how incompetant KAM was. He dumped KC's and his bloated salary. Job well done, much like the Wilson dump. Everything else that they did, he did the opposite. The similarities end there. Whiffed massively at the drafts and signed high price FA's to cover those whiffs and they, largely, also whiffed.

Now we have:

No cap room
Very few young guys working out
Old vets who didn't really work
A QB problem (started and backup)
Same OLine issues we've had for years
shit....i'm just going to stop. It's too depressing
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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 2/10/2026 2:40:22 PM   
Phil Riewer


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ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

quote:

ORIGINAL: Rob Viking

When looking at the Seahawks and their roster construction. Yes drafting well but the Wilson trade should be right up there with the Herschel Walker trade. Dumping Wilson's salary, changing the culture and moving on at the perfect time from a declining player is one thing. Then the haul, and then the draft. And Wilson was so bad, the Broncos yielded the 5th overall pick in 2023. This is what the Seahawks got in return.

- LT Charles Cross
- CB Devon Witherspoon
- DE Boye Mafe
- OLB Derrick Hall
- Some depth/special teams guys
- They also got TE Noah Fant, DE Shelby Harris and Drew Lock. Fant was mild disappointment, Harris was ok and Lock is still holding the clipboard.



This is a great post that I'm going turn upside down to prove how incompetant KAM was. He dumped KC's and his bloated salary. Job well done, much like the Wilson dump. Everything else that they did, he did the opposite. The similarities end there. Whiffed massively at the drafts and signed high price FA's to cover those whiffs and they, largely, also whiffed.

Now we have:

No cap room
Very few young guys working out
Old vets who didn't really work
A QB problem (started and backup)
Same OLine issues we've had for years
shit....i'm just going to stop. It's too depressing


If they amazing hadn't picked up UDFAs and hit on a 50% of FA at a pretty good clip there wouldn't be much hope.....but there still is plenty of talent on this team......somehow. I think KOC and Flores can spot talent and coach.

Can we just have one really nice draft?

< Message edited by Phil Riewer -- 2/10/2026 2:43:34 PM >


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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 2/10/2026 5:11:13 PM   
Rob Viking

 

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5 Kwesi drafts have yielded:

- Nailor
- Addison
- JJM
- Turner
- Reichard
- Drake-Rod
- Donovan Jackson

6 starters. One blue chipper in Reichard. Maybe a special player in Turner, and honestly anyone on this board could have drafted Addison or Donovan Jackson to fill needs.

To quote Kwesi: "I tried to find the intuition behind it. I ask 'why' a lot. You will find that out about me. I wanted to know even the most simple question. You might think it is simple, but I am building the complex bridge that will get me somewhere complex."
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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 2/10/2026 6:15:38 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Rob Viking


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but I am building the complex bridge that will get me somewhere complex."


It's freaking football, it's not that complex!
Getting rid of that clown is a beginning.........we can't get much lower.
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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 2/10/2026 6:35:16 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Rob Viking

5 Kwesi drafts have yielded:

- Nailor
- Addison
- JJM
- Turner
- Reichard
- Drake-Rod
- Donovan Jackson

6 starters. One blue chipper in Reichard. Maybe a special player in Turner, and honestly anyone on this board could have drafted Addison or Donovan Jackson to fill needs.

To quote Kwesi: "I tried to find the intuition behind it. I ask 'why' a lot. You will find that out about me. I wanted to know even the most simple question. You might think it is simple, but I am building the complex bridge that will get me somewhere complex."


4 drafts.

I went through the draft-starter exercise a week ago. Six starters is a misnomer. Nailor is a WR3, hardly a frontline player. JJM is a hot mess. Turner does not start, or why extend Van Ginkel. LDR platoons. And yes, a kicker is his grand draft pick.

In terms of good offensive and defensive starters:
- Addison

Likely to be a good starter:
- Turner
- Jackson

ONE starter over 4 years. Likely 3 max, depending on the DL. And Reichard.
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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 2/10/2026 6:36:16 PM   
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As for the complex bridge, F the Wilfs for falling for his word salad.
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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 2/10/2026 9:13:42 PM   
Rob Viking

 

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

quote:

ORIGINAL: Rob Viking

5 Kwesi drafts have yielded:

- Nailor
- Addison
- JJM
- Turner
- Reichard
- Drake-Rod
- Donovan Jackson

6 starters. One blue chipper in Reichard. Maybe a special player in Turner, and honestly anyone on this board could have drafted Addison or Donovan Jackson to fill needs.

To quote Kwesi: "I tried to find the intuition behind it. I ask 'why' a lot. You will find that out about me. I wanted to know even the most simple question. You might think it is simple, but I am building the complex bridge that will get me somewhere complex."


4 drafts.

I went through the draft-starter exercise a week ago. Six starters is a misnomer. Nailor is a WR3, hardly a frontline player. JJM is a hot mess. Turner does not start, or why extend Van Ginkel. LDR platoons. And yes, a kicker is his grand draft pick.

In terms of good offensive and defensive starters:
- Addison

Likely to be a good starter:
- Turner
- Jackson

ONE starter over 4 years. Likely 3 max, depending on the DL. And Reichard.


Fair, Addison could be a top 20 wideout but was disappointing on and off the field this season. Turner could be pro bowl level player. I agree it's one of the worst GM tenures I can remember. I have hope for JJ, but everything suggests management is running out of it.
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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 2/10/2026 9:21:00 PM   
Rob Viking

 

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

As for the complex bridge, F the Wilfs for falling for his word salad.


It better have been a DEI hire, I can't think of any other reason he made the jump all the way to GM. From football research manager to VP of football operations to GM. He was hired by the guy who engineered the worst trade in NFL history from the worst franchise this century.
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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 2/10/2026 9:45:04 PM   
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IF JJ turns into a top QB, say top 7 QB next year, what does that make Kwesi's draft grade ?

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