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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 7/29/2026 11:06:11 AM

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I'm glad they inked O'Neil. Hopefully our line will, at least, stable this year. I can't say they'll be good but it's hard to judge with all the injuries they had last year. We're going to need them if we achieve some level of success this year.

i also like the Adam's signing. I didn't watch any Raiders games so I don't know how much he has left in the tank. He might be able to provide another blitz weapon for Flores.

Adams is already an improvement over Pace. They can use Golladay to rush more if Adams can play OLB.

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 7/29/2026 11:18:19 AM

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I'm glad they inked O'Neil. Hopefully our line will, at least, stable this year. I can't say they'll be good but it's hard to judge with all the injuries they had last year. We're going to need them if we achieve some level of success this year.

i also like the Adam's signing. I didn't watch any Raiders games so I don't know how much he has left in the tank. He might be able to provide another blitz weapon for Flores.

Adams is already an improvement over Pace. They can use Golladay to rush more if Adams can play OLB.

Judd at Skor North brought up a good point yesterday. He wondered aloud about the timing of it. Did someone come in a little banged up that we don't know about yet?

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 7/29/2026 4:01:26 PM

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Just re-signed up. This is a test message to see if I did it correctly!

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 7/30/2026 7:19:11 AM

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Just re-signed up. This is a test message to see if I did it correctly!

Welcome! You are now one of us. May God have mercy on your soul.

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 7/30/2026 7:22:21 AM

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So glad training camp is up and running. I miss Viking news throughout the early summer. Hoping for a great year.

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 7/30/2026 7:22:44 AM

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I'm glad they inked O'Neil. Hopefully our line will, at least, stable this year. I can't say they'll be good but it's hard to judge with all the injuries they had last year. We're going to need them if we achieve some level of success this year.

i also like the Adam's signing. I didn't watch any Raiders games so I don't know how much he has left in the tank. He might be able to provide another blitz weapon for Flores.

Adams is already an improvement over Pace. They can use Golladay to rush more if Adams can play OLB.

I think for Golday to spend time at ILB and OLB. I think Adams is more of a safety lb hybrid.

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 7/31/2026 8:00:43 AM

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—$27.1M SB; base salary guarantees in ‘26 ($5.1M,), ‘27 ($17.2M)

—Per-game RB up to $510K, $100K WB each year

—Base salary escalator clauses from ‘27-30

—‘26 cap drops from $23.12M to $14.74M

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 7/31/2026 8:04:44 AM

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I'm glad they inked O'Neil. Hopefully our line will, at least, stable this year. I can't say they'll be good but it's hard to judge with all the injuries they had last year. We're going to need them if we achieve some level of success this year.

i also like the Adam's signing. I didn't watch any Raiders games so I don't know how much he has left in the tank. He might be able to provide another blitz weapon for Flores.

Adams is already an improvement over Pace. They can use Golladay to rush more if Adams can play OLB.

I think for Golday to spend time at ILB and OLB. I think Adams is more of a safety lb hybrid.

I can see it already.....Big Citrus/Ingram-Dawkins and Banks over the middle and Golday, Cashman, Wilson, Adams, Turner, Van Ginkel, and Meltellus standing up.

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 7/31/2026 11:48:24 AM

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I can't be there, so I try to listen to the prominent pods (not rando's) about how TC is going. Obviously, it's early, but so far, the consensus is that Kyler is already ahead of JJM.

One negative thing about Kyler is that he and BB have had a couple of botched snaps already.

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 7/31/2026 11:53:58 AM

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Another point that stuck out. What are people's thoughts on Rodgers? He had that 1 great game but wasn't great overall IMO. I ask because it looks like he may be sitting-in. Is he really worth a new/better contract moving forward??

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 7/31/2026 3:57:33 PM

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Another point that stuck out. What are people's thoughts on Rodgers? He had that 1 great game but wasn't great overall IMO. I ask because it looks like he may be sitting-in. Is he really worth a new/better contract moving forward??

CB? Didn’t we just sign him last year?

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 7/31/2026 5:02:46 PM

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Another point that stuck out. What are people's thoughts on Rodgers? He had that 1 great game but wasn't great overall IMO. I ask because it looks like he may be sitting-in. Is he really worth a new/better contract moving forward??

CB? Didn’t we just sign him last year?

2 year deal.

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 8/1/2026 7:37:15 AM

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Another point that stuck out. What are people's thoughts on Rodgers? He had that 1 great game but wasn't great overall IMO. I ask because it looks like he may be sitting-in. Is he really worth a new/better contract moving forward??

CB? Didn’t we just sign him last year?

2 year deal.

I think he's worth extending. He certainly outplayed his current deal. is due to make 7ml and is 28 years old.

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 8/2/2026 11:56:11 AM

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Was anybody at the practice last night? Obviously, still early, but the former beat writer pod that am listening to said that KM killed it and JJM was still struggling. Would be curious to hear if others were there to confirm/contradict. ect..

Apparently, KM to JJ was on point all night.

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 8/2/2026 12:42:30 PM

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From the Strib.
It sounds like the pod was right on with what is being reported on the Strib.

Day 4 of Vikings training camp has wrapped up. Here's what we saw.

Quarterback Kyler Murray again took the lead with the first-team offense in full-team drills, finishing with 16 reps to J.J. McCarthy's 10 reps. That puts the total three-day count (Friday was a walkthrough) of first-team reps to Murray 35, McCarthy 20. Coach Kevin O'Connell said it wouldn't necessarily be a 50/50 split, and the reps have leaned toward Murray since both quarterbacks got four first-team reps in the opening session on Wednesday. Keep in mind these are stats from full-team, 11-on-11 work and not 7-on-7 passing drills.
Here's how Murray did with the first-team offense: 8 of 8 completed, including five to receiver Justin Jefferson. But one of Murray's completions came late and could have been considered a sack. Quarterbacks wear red jerseys and do not get hit during training camp. One of Murray's best throws was a good read: a quick-hitting toss to Jefferson in which Murray read a blitz by safety Jay Ward from that side and threw into the vacated area. Murray also had a nice placement on a second-team throw to receiver Myles Price, who dropped the pass over the middle of the field.
Here's how McCarthy did with the first-team offense: 3 of 5 completed, including one errant throw that fell at the feet of running back Jordan Mason and one drop by tight end T.J. Hockenson down the sideline. McCarthy completed his last three throws with starters, ending with screens to Mason and Aaron Jones Sr. and a crossing route to receiver Jauan Jennings.
With the second-team offense (against the starting defense), McCarthy started 0 of 3, including one pass intercepted by linebacker Blake Cashman that was tipped by rookie linebacker Jake Golday. Cornerback Zemaiah Vaughn also got his hands on a McCarthy pass intended for receiver Tai Felton. McCarthy finished 3 of 3 with the second-team offense, including back-to-back tosses to receiver Jeshaun Jones; the final throw appeared to be a well-timed find of Jones on a deep hook or comeback route.
Many defensive rookies - defensive tackles Caleb Banks and Domonique Orange, Golday, cornerback Chuck Demmings, safety Jakobe Thomas - are getting first-team reps. Demmings had an eventful practice, batting away a Murray pass in 7-on-7 goal line drills intended for Jefferson, who wanted an interference flag that didn't come. Demmings did the trademark LeBron celebration afterward. Rookie running back Demond Claiborne was not spotted at practice, which is worth monitoring.

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 8/2/2026 1:04:02 PM

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Thanks!

The other thing he noted was Rodgers was a full participant so the guess of a hold-in seems wrong

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 8/2/2026 1:24:01 PM

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Randy Moss once handed his $67,000 BMW to a teenage ball boy who needed a ride to prom.

That ball boy retired with more receiving yards than Randy Moss.

This story is unreal so stay with me.

Late 90s Vikings. There's a kid hanging around the locker room doing odd jobs. Shagging punts, running errands, washing cars. His dad covered the team as a writer, so he had the kind of access most kids would kill for.

That kid was Larry Fitzgerald Jr.

Most of the players were cool with him. Randy Moss basically adopted him.

Moss ran routes with him after practice. Showed up at Larry's HIGH SCHOOL practices. Gave him his cleats — they both wore size 14.

And when Larry did jobs for him, Moss paid the only way Moss ever paid anybody. Fitz's words: "Straight cash, homie. I don't think he ever wrote a check."

Then prom season rolls around.

And teenage Larry Fitzgerald has his eye on one thing. Randy's blue 99 BMW 740. About $67K back then. Like $130K in today's money.

So he works up the nerve and goes: "Randy, hey man, listen... I was curious if you weren't busy, I'd love to drive the BMW. Just got my license last week."

JUST GOT MY LICENSE LAST WEEK. To borrow the nicest car in an NFL parking lot.

Randy said yes.

So Fitz pulls up to prom in a superstar's BMW and, in his words, "brought it back without a scratch."

Now here's where it turns into a movie.

That ball boy goes #3 overall in the 2004 draft. In 2017 he passes Moss — his mentor — on the all-time receiving yards list. Finishes with 17,492 yards, second most in NFL HISTORY. 1,432 catches.

And this year? First ballot Hall of Famer. Joining Randy in Canton.

But my favorite part is that Fitz never let this just be a funny story. He tells it as proof of who Moss really was:

"The kind of stuff this man did behind the scenes for people, with no notoriety, no fanfare, was so inspirational to me. I'm one of the many charity cases that Randy looked out for."

Moss was visiting homeless shelters and schools all over Minneapolis and never wanted a single camera there. He just did stuff like this.

One legend handed a teenager his car keys.

The teenager handed him back a legacy.

Follow @thesportsontap, we post a story like this every day.

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 8/2/2026 8:13:23 PM

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From what I saw, KM's flaws showed up in the 1st 2 days, where McCarthy looked better, McCarthy took shorter steps and didn't throw with a hitch, and height mattered.

But Murray will be the starter, and he will get the ball to JJ. At some point, there will be criticism that he isn't getting the ball enough to his other WRs.

The offense should be fine, and retaining Flores, the defense should be really good, provided the offense runs the ball enough, and keeps them fresh.

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 8/3/2026 7:30:54 AM

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I think the O'Connell offense was exposed in 24 (Det & LAR) games. Perhaps the addition of Frank Smith to the coaching staff could help. But in the end O'Connell has to lean more into the run game which I simply don't think is in his DNA.

Defensively, I worry about the young IDL. Hargrave and Allen may have been lacking but they absorbed about 1300 snaps between the two. Doubt Orange and Banks can achieve this (being rookies) and the depth behind them is not great.

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 8/3/2026 10:28:59 AM

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Issaiah Rodgers participated in team drills Saturday so maybe no "hold in" as previously discussed

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 8/3/2026 10:36:03 AM

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I think the O'Connell offense was exposed in 24 (Det & LAR) games. Perhaps the addition of Frank Smith to the coaching staff could help. But in the end O'Connell has to lean more into the run game which I simply don't think is in his DNA.

Defensively, I worry about the young IDL. Hargrave and Allen may have been lacking but they absorbed about 1300 snaps between the two. Doubt Orange and Banks can achieve this (being rookies) and the depth behind them is not great.

Those games, IMO, was the same as last year. If our OLine sucks again (injuries or not) we go nowhere no matter what. Sure, we make a WC game, but that's the ceiling. If they stay healthy and gel, we could be very good.

I agree on the IDL. Just the 'unknown' nature of those guys is kinda scary. My other big concern on the D side isn't talked about that much. CB. We are super thin there IMO.

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 8/3/2026 11:18:01 AM

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Was anybody at the practice last night? Obviously, still early, but the former beat writer pod that am listening to said that KM killed it and JJM was still struggling. Would be curious to hear if others were there to confirm/contradict. ect..

Apparently, KM to JJ was on point all night.

murray is getting more snaps out of shotgun than mccarthy...from what i've heard mccarthy had played better than murray the other couple of days at camp...i think that the loss of playaction will hurt the running game, but o'connell has yet to demonstrate that it matters to him...o'connell has yet to prove to me that he's an exceptional playcaller....

i'm pulling for mccarthy, and would love to give him two more years to prove it...i wonder, if teasley thinks that giving the team a chance with a young, affordable quarterback for a couple of years would convey that feeling to his head coach?....

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 8/3/2026 11:18:32 AM

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I think the O'Connell offense was exposed in 24 (Det & LAR) games. Perhaps the addition of Frank Smith to the coaching staff could help. But in the end O'Connell has to lean more into the run game which I simply don't think is in his DNA.

Defensively, I worry about the young IDL. Hargrave and Allen may have been lacking but they absorbed about 1300 snaps between the two. Doubt Orange and Banks can achieve this (being rookies) and the depth behind them is not great.

Those games, IMO, was the same as last year. If our OLine sucks again (injuries or not) we go nowhere no matter what. Sure, we make a WC game, but that's the ceiling. If they stay healthy and gel, we could be very good.

I agree on the IDL. Just the 'unknown' nature of those guys is kinda scary. My other big concern on the D side isn't talked about that much. CB. We are super thin there IMO.

Thin and devoid of real talent. Unfortunately, Kwesi's overspend on the DL required Brzez to cut that deadwood which created problems there too.

Guess the difference is the DL incumbents were/are young so you're not sure what you have, while the recent CB additions (Rodgers, Pierre) are vets whose claims to fame are I might be good because I didn't play much over the years.

And nothing added during free agency and the draft changed that.

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 8/3/2026 11:47:42 AM

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I think the O'Connell offense was exposed in 24 (Det & LAR) games. Perhaps the addition of Frank Smith to the coaching staff could help. But in the end O'Connell has to lean more into the run game which I simply don't think is in his DNA.

Defensively, I worry about the young IDL. Hargrave and Allen may have been lacking but they absorbed about 1300 snaps between the two. Doubt Orange and Banks can achieve this (being rookies) and the depth behind them is not great.

Those games, IMO, was the same as last year. If our OLine sucks again (injuries or not) we go nowhere no matter what. Sure, we make a WC game, but that's the ceiling. If they stay healthy and gel, we could be very good.

I agree on the IDL. Just the 'unknown' nature of those guys is kinda scary. My other big concern on the D side isn't talked about that much. CB. We are super thin there IMO.

My second concern defensively would be aimed more at the S position than CB. I think Mettellus should return to the hybrid role where he excelled. He just wasn't good as a deep S.

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 8/3/2026 12:20:30 PM

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from what i've heard mccarthy had played better than murray the other couple of days at camp.

I'm paraphrasing it a bit but the pod that Judd and Chip (former beat guys that have watched a ton of Vikings TC) said that was a bit true the first couple days but as Murray gets more used to the play book, the better he is looking. Much more decisive which they think is kinda irritating KOC (JJM's lack thereof at his 3rd year). They think KOC tihnks JJM is still struggling to really learn the offense.

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