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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 1/14/2026 7:04:52 AM   
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With Baltimore, and now Pittsburgh having head coaching vacancies, I no longer feel good about the Vikings chances of keeping BFlo.

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 1/14/2026 8:23:29 AM   
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I don't see BFlo coming back with all of the vacancies. I can definitely see him going to the Steelers, since he knows the program over there. And I don't see the Steelers veering from their typical hard nosed defensive coaches to a young innovative offensive mind. Remember Tomlin left on his own accord and the Rooney's didn't necessarily want to fire him. Enter BFlo a similar personality to Tomlin, yet superior with Xs and Os. Like a cross between Tomlin and Dick Lebeau.
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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 1/14/2026 9:56:26 AM   
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"Jordan is unique because 99% of the days that Jordan Addison is a Viking, he's a joy to be around," Adofo-Mensah said, via ESPN. "He's incredibly intelligent, confident, responsible. And then it's like all of us: What are you like on those 1% of days? Is it the type of thing that draws attention or not? Obviously, that's something we have to consider when you're talking about long-term ramifications of a contract extension and different things like that or letting somebody like Jalen Nailor leave.

"We'll have those conversations, obviously. Just a few days after the season and obviously this event just happened. But always supportive of Jordan Addison. We'll continue to fact-find and see what actually happened, and then we'll have those conversations in the future."



Word salad translated: Let's Get Paid out, Nailor in.
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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 1/14/2026 10:50:44 AM   
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"Jordan is unique because 99% of the days that Jordan Addison is a Viking, he's a joy to be around," Adofo-Mensah said, via ESPN. "He's incredibly intelligent, confident, responsible. And then it's like all of us: What are you like on those 1% of days? Is it the type of thing that draws attention or not? Obviously, that's something we have to consider when you're talking about long-term ramifications of a contract extension and different things like that or letting somebody like Jalen Nailor leave.

"We'll have those conversations, obviously. Just a few days after the season and obviously this event just happened. But always supportive of Jordan Addison. We'll continue to fact-find and see what actually happened, and then we'll have those conversations in the future."



Word salad translated: Let's Get Paid out, Nailor in.

That's the way it should have been all along.

Best case scenario is the charges get dropped and we can still get a 4th or 5th rounder for him.
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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 1/14/2026 10:52:38 AM   
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I don't see BFlo coming back with all of the vacancies. I can definitely see him going to the Steelers, since he knows the program over there. And I don't see the Steelers veering from their typical hard nosed defensive coaches to a young innovative offensive mind. Remember Tomlin left on his own accord and the Rooney's didn't necessarily want to fire him. Enter BFlo a similar personality to Tomlin, yet superior with Xs and Os. Like a cross between Tomlin and Dick Lebeau.

The two 3rds will comfort the blow of losing him.

What the FO can't have happen is someone outbids us and he remains a DC.
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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 1/14/2026 11:01:44 AM   
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"Jordan is unique because 99% of the days that Jordan Addison is a Viking, he's a joy to be around," Adofo-Mensah said, via ESPN. "He's incredibly intelligent, confident, responsible. And then it's like all of us: What are you like on those 1% of days? Is it the type of thing that draws attention or not? Obviously, that's something we have to consider when you're talking about long-term ramifications of a contract extension and different things like that or letting somebody like Jalen Nailor leave.

"We'll have those conversations, obviously. Just a few days after the season and obviously this event just happened. But always supportive of Jordan Addison. We'll continue to fact-find and see what actually happened, and then we'll have those conversations in the future."



Word salad translated: Let's Get Paid out, Nailor in.

That's the way it should have been all along.

Best case scenario is the charges get dropped and we can still get a 4th or 5th rounder for him.


Charges might get dropped but the NFL is still likely to suspend him regardless. Teams, rightly so, will factor that in.
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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 1/14/2026 11:52:47 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

"Jordan is unique because 99% of the days that Jordan Addison is a Viking, he's a joy to be around," Adofo-Mensah said, via ESPN. "He's incredibly intelligent, confident, responsible. And then it's like all of us: What are you like on those 1% of days? Is it the type of thing that draws attention or not? Obviously, that's something we have to consider when you're talking about long-term ramifications of a contract extension and different things like that or letting somebody like Jalen Nailor leave.

"We'll have those conversations, obviously. Just a few days after the season and obviously this event just happened. But always supportive of Jordan Addison. We'll continue to fact-find and see what actually happened, and then we'll have those conversations in the future."



Word salad translated: Let's Get Paid out, Nailor in.

That's the way it should have been all along.

Best case scenario is the charges get dropped and we can still get a 4th or 5th rounder for him.


Charges might get dropped but the NFL is still likely to suspend him regardless. Teams, rightly so, will factor that in.


It sounds like it's going to be a misdemeanor trespass... will be interesting to see what the NFL makes of that.
I could see anywhere from nothing to 6 games (because he already had a 3 game suspension THIS YEAR!)

I'm a broken record... but this is why I push back about Jefferson being a diva.

No AJ Brown like bs.
No Pickens like bs.
No Diggs like bs.
No ADDISON like bs.

Just shows up, doesn't complain, is available and plays.
Of course... he is well compensated to do so... but still...
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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 1/14/2026 11:55:27 AM   
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I don't see BFlo coming back with all of the vacancies. I can definitely see him going to the Steelers, since he knows the program over there. And I don't see the Steelers veering from their typical hard nosed defensive coaches to a young innovative offensive mind. Remember Tomlin left on his own accord and the Rooney's didn't necessarily want to fire him. Enter BFlo a similar personality to Tomlin, yet superior with Xs and Os. Like a cross between Tomlin and Dick Lebeau.

The two 3rds will comfort the blow of losing him.

What the FO can't have happen is someone outbids us and he remains a DC.


I'm probably in the minority.... but I don't think Flores gets a HC job.
The NFL is pretty good at blackballing when they want to.

Not sure about him moving to a DC job... I would guess that'll be about 50/50 and have to do with Asst HC title, money and direction of QB.
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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 1/14/2026 11:58:17 AM   
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Tomlin out is Pittsburg... wouldn't it be wild if KOC gets fired after 2026 and Wilfs hire Tomlin as HC for the 2027 season.

I could kinda see it... trying to recapture the one you lost.
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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 1/14/2026 12:32:13 PM   
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ORIGINAL: beo

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

"Jordan is unique because 99% of the days that Jordan Addison is a Viking, he's a joy to be around," Adofo-Mensah said, via ESPN. "He's incredibly intelligent, confident, responsible. And then it's like all of us: What are you like on those 1% of days? Is it the type of thing that draws attention or not? Obviously, that's something we have to consider when you're talking about long-term ramifications of a contract extension and different things like that or letting somebody like Jalen Nailor leave.

"We'll have those conversations, obviously. Just a few days after the season and obviously this event just happened. But always supportive of Jordan Addison. We'll continue to fact-find and see what actually happened, and then we'll have those conversations in the future."



Word salad translated: Let's Get Paid out, Nailor in.

That's the way it should have been all along.

Best case scenario is the charges get dropped and we can still get a 4th or 5th rounder for him.


Charges might get dropped but the NFL is still likely to suspend him regardless. Teams, rightly so, will factor that in.


It sounds like it's going to be a misdemeanor trespass... will be interesting to see what the NFL makes of that.
I could see anywhere from nothing to 6 games (because he already had a 3 game suspension THIS YEAR!)

I'm a broken record... but this is why I push back about Jefferson being a diva.

No AJ Brown like bs.
No Pickens like bs.
No Diggs like bs.
No ADDISON like bs.

Just shows up, doesn't complain, is available and plays.
Of course... he is well compensated to do so... but still...


Jefferson is NOT a diva. Every week the national media go out of their way to stress that very fact. By evert account, Jefferson is a consummate professional, a great teammate, easy to coach and a terrific human in the community.
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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 1/14/2026 2:10:51 PM   
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Tomlin out is Pittsburg... wouldn't it be wild if KOC gets fired after 2026 and Wilfs hire Tomlin as HC for the 2027 season.

I could kinda see it... trying to recapture the one you lost.


Please no!
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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 1/14/2026 2:27:26 PM   
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Tomlin is one of the most overrated coaches. He's decent but his name gets thrown around as one of the greats because he's had nothing but winning seasons. That is quite the feat, but the Steelers haven't been close to being a contender since 2017. The Steelers were built to handle Baltimore but they've been absolutely trucked by any good team in the last 5+ years. I don't think they really had any impressive wins outside of beating the Ravens a couple of times. I would also add their innate ability to pull games out of their asses, if that's coaching then bravo but in no way is it sustainable.

Ask any Steelers fan, and most are happy that he's gone.
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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 1/15/2026 1:34:48 AM   
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Tampa: Hard Rock Casino floor: Open 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.

how do you trespass a casino?...i would keep addison...he seems like a young man who's just a nouveau millionaire loner...i don't think he's going to hurt anyone....




just stumbled onto this below....


Vikings star Jordan Addison refused to leave a casino bar before his arrest this week despite being asked multiple times, according to police docs ... TMZ Sports has learned.

Addison -- who scored four touchdowns this season -- was taken into custody by the Seminole Police Department on Monday on a misdemeanor trespassing charge.

Police documents indicate law enforcement was dispatched to the Noodle Bar, located inside the Hard Rock Casino in Tampa, Florida, after Addison, 23, refused to leave the restaurant despite several requests from casino security.

It's unclear why they wanted Addison removed.

The docs say that while being escorted out, Addison had to be redirected to the front exit multiple times before authorities ultimately arrested him for trespassing.

< Message edited by ratoppenheimer -- 1/15/2026 5:14:04 AM >


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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 1/15/2026 7:53:41 AM   
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Nouveau millionaire loner? Maybe nouveau millionaire narcissist. Maybe it's just me, but I think driving 140 mph and driving drunk on an LA freeway has great potential to hurt someone besides himself.

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 1/15/2026 9:00:37 AM   
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More like nouveau riche.

Circumstances: California Highway Patrol (CHP) officers responded to a report of a disabled vehicle blocking the number one (left) lane of traffic. Upon arrival, they found Addison asleep in the driver's seat of his white Rolls-Royce.

Arrest and Charges: A DUI investigation was conducted, and Addison was arrested on suspicion of driving under the influence (DUI). He was later charged with two misdemeanors: driving under the influence of alcohol and driving with a blood-alcohol concentration of 0.08% or greater.

Plea Bargain: In July 2025, Addison resolved the case by pleading no contest to a lesser charge known as a "wet reckless" (reckless driving involving alcohol), which allowed him to avoid a trial and a potential driver's license suspension.

Penalties: As part of his plea agreement, he received 12 months of probation, was required to pay a fine, and had to complete two online courses.


And just spitballing but he doesn't strike me as a guy who saves money so wouldn't be surprised if his net worth is less than even 1 million.
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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 1/15/2026 11:27:11 AM   
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Tampa: Hard Rock Casino floor: Open 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.

how do you trespass a casino?...i would keep addison...he seems like a young man who's just a nouveau millionaire loner...i don't think he's going to hurt anyone....



How many games a year is acceptable to miss due to suspension?
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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 1/15/2026 11:52:16 AM   
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Tampa: Hard Rock Casino floor: Open 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.

how do you trespass a casino?...i would keep addison...he seems like a young man who's just a nouveau millionaire loner...i don't think he's going to hurt anyone....




just stumbled onto this below....


Vikings star Jordan Addison refused to leave a casino bar before his arrest this week despite being asked multiple times, according to police docs ... TMZ Sports has learned.

Addison -- who scored four touchdowns this season -- was taken into custody by the Seminole Police Department on Monday on a misdemeanor trespassing charge.

Police documents indicate law enforcement was dispatched to the Noodle Bar, located inside the Hard Rock Casino in Tampa, Florida, after Addison, 23, refused to leave the restaurant despite several requests from casino security.

It's unclear why they wanted Addison removed.

The docs say that while being escorted out, Addison had to be redirected to the front exit multiple times before authorities ultimately arrested him for trespassing.



REfusing to leave a casino?

I'd personally like to know why they were asking him to leave. What did he do that precipitated all that from happening?


Is this going to get him more suspension time or will it be much ado about nothing?

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 1/15/2026 12:00:16 PM   
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Tampa: Hard Rock Casino floor: Open 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.

how do you trespass a casino?...i would keep addison...he seems like a young man who's just a nouveau millionaire loner...i don't think he's going to hurt anyone....




just stumbled onto this below....


Vikings star Jordan Addison refused to leave a casino bar before his arrest this week despite being asked multiple times, according to police docs ... TMZ Sports has learned.

Addison -- who scored four touchdowns this season -- was taken into custody by the Seminole Police Department on Monday on a misdemeanor trespassing charge.

Police documents indicate law enforcement was dispatched to the Noodle Bar, located inside the Hard Rock Casino in Tampa, Florida, after Addison, 23, refused to leave the restaurant despite several requests from casino security.

It's unclear why they wanted Addison removed.

The docs say that while being escorted out, Addison had to be redirected to the front exit multiple times before authorities ultimately arrested him for trespassing.



REfusing to leave a casino?

I'd personally like to know why they were asking him to leave. What did he do that precipitated all that from happening?


Is this going to get him more suspension time or will it be much ado about nothing?


If he refused to leave a restaurant it was likely because he was either sloppy drunk, being too loud/obnoxious/belligerent or repeatedly hitting on a staff member or customer and not taking no as an answer.
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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 1/15/2026 12:13:59 PM   
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Tomlin is one of the most overrated coaches. He's decent but his name gets thrown around as one of the greats because he's had nothing but winning seasons. That is quite the feat, but the Steelers haven't been close to being a contender since 2017. The Steelers were built to handle Baltimore but they've been absolutely trucked by any good team in the last 5+ years. I don't think they really had any impressive wins outside of beating the Ravens a couple of times. I would also add their innate ability to pull games out of their asses, if that's coaching then bravo but in no way is it sustainable.

Ask any Steelers fan, and most are happy that he's gone.


I think Tomlin's time in Pittsburgh ran out... for sure... seems like all coaches have a time limit.

That being said... look at the shit show of quarterbacks he has had to work outside of Big Ben...
mason rudolph, kenny pickett, russ wilson, arod

Winning seasons with those guys is an accomplishment.

It's possible the game has passed by him.

But he is only 55.

I could see him going someplace else and having a resurgence.
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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 1/15/2026 3:50:15 PM   
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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

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ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

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Tampa: Hard Rock Casino floor: Open 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.

how do you trespass a casino?...i would keep addison...he seems like a young man who's just a nouveau millionaire loner...i don't think he's going to hurt anyone....




just stumbled onto this below....


Vikings star Jordan Addison refused to leave a casino bar before his arrest this week despite being asked multiple times, according to police docs ... TMZ Sports has learned.

Addison -- who scored four touchdowns this season -- was taken into custody by the Seminole Police Department on Monday on a misdemeanor trespassing charge.

Police documents indicate law enforcement was dispatched to the Noodle Bar, located inside the Hard Rock Casino in Tampa, Florida, after Addison, 23, refused to leave the restaurant despite several requests from casino security.

It's unclear why they wanted Addison removed.

The docs say that while being escorted out, Addison had to be redirected to the front exit multiple times before authorities ultimately arrested him for trespassing.



REfusing to leave a casino?

I'd personally like to know why they were asking him to leave. What did he do that precipitated all that from happening?


Is this going to get him more suspension time or will it be much ado about nothing?


If he refused to leave a restaurant it was likely because he was either sloppy drunk, being too loud/obnoxious/belligerent or repeatedly hitting on a staff member or customer and not taking no as an answer.


apartantly the restaurant was closing at 4 am, and they wanted him out...i haven't read anything about addison being stoned or beligerent - drunk and disorderly....

he's different, for sure, seems like some sort of psychological disorder...but i'd still keep him as long as he's cheap and producing...it's like having an autistic player on the team, i don't think he can help it...we just have to give him a little more space to be what he is....

i've driven a car 140 mph...we've all done a shit-load of crazy things in our lives...he hasn't ever hurt anyone....

i think the nfl would be overstepping if they suspended him if all he did was argue with a noodle bar manager for a few minutes for trying to shut the place down earlier than posted....

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 1/15/2026 4:04:20 PM   
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i think the nfl would be overstepping if they suspended him if all he did was argue with a noodle bar manager for a few minutes for trying to shut the place down earlier than posted....


If it took several requests from security and eventually calling in the police, it took more than "a few minutes". There is also nothing I've seen to them "trying to shut the place down earlier than posted". Are you sure you didn't just make that part up?

The report notes that Addison was asked by casino security several times to leave the premises and refused. The police then attempted to get him to leave and he had to be 'redirected' several times towards the exit before they finally decided to arrest him.

He was given Notice on the spot. He can't be arrested immediately upon being given notice. He has to persist in remaining on the premises to trigger the charges. There has to be a reasonable chance afforded for him to leave on his own.

Again, what is the number of games you're OK with him missing due to suspension each year?

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 1/15/2026 8:58:17 PM   
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No evidence but being at a casino past 3:30 a.m. meant he probably had a few drinks. Perhaps a few too many. Maybe it's a good thing he was arrested vs. getting behind the wheel. Who knows, left to his own devices maybe he'd hit 140 mph or take a nap in the left lane... or both.

And you don't get kicked out of a place, or it's rare, by simply minding your own business and chilling out.

After his known history, repeatedly saying he hasn't ever hurt anyone is about the worst excuse possible. If anything, the Vikings probably have to walk the line between the trite 'supporting' and helping the guy vs wanting to cut his ass now.

He'll get suspended x games, Vikings extend Nailor, and the team finds a way to make him someone else's problem.
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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 1/15/2026 9:07:35 PM   
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Not to mention the NFL doesn't necessarily care about the particulars in this type of case, just that he was arrested and player/coach arrests are not what they subscribe to. That is why the NFL and teams have conduct policies that have nothing to do with police matters. Something the 32 owners use to protect their multi-billion dollar monopoly, and that the NFLPA agreed to.

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 1/16/2026 7:41:44 AM   
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i think the nfl would be overstepping if they suspended him if all he did was argue with a noodle bar manager for a few minutes for trying to shut the place down earlier than posted....


If it took several requests from security and eventually calling in the police, it took more than "a few minutes". There is also nothing I've seen to them "trying to shut the place down earlier than posted". Are you sure you didn't just make that part up?

The report notes that Addison was asked by casino security several times to leave the premises and refused. The police then attempted to get him to leave and he had to be 'redirected' several times towards the exit before they finally decided to arrest him.

He was given Notice on the spot. He can't be arrested immediately upon being given notice. He has to persist in remaining on the premises to trigger the charges. There has to be a reasonable chance afforded for him to leave on his own.

Again, what is the number of games you're OK with him missing due to suspension each year?



yes, i did make it up...but maybe the people at the noodle bar were rude to him, and he felt slighted...i don't feel like we know the 'honest' story....

being redirected? - so they arrested him? - sounds like bullshot to me....

for 2016 addison's cap hit is about $4.4mm...his 2027 5th year option will be around $17mm...that's about $11mm/yr...i'd say he's worth that even if he loses 3-4 games each year for acting like a knucklehead....

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 1/16/2026 9:18:03 AM   
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i think the nfl would be overstepping if they suspended him if all he did was argue with a noodle bar manager for a few minutes for trying to shut the place down earlier than posted....


If it took several requests from security and eventually calling in the police, it took more than "a few minutes". There is also nothing I've seen to them "trying to shut the place down earlier than posted". Are you sure you didn't just make that part up?

The report notes that Addison was asked by casino security several times to leave the premises and refused. The police then attempted to get him to leave and he had to be 'redirected' several times towards the exit before they finally decided to arrest him.

He was given Notice on the spot. He can't be arrested immediately upon being given notice. He has to persist in remaining on the premises to trigger the charges. There has to be a reasonable chance afforded for him to leave on his own.

Again, what is the number of games you're OK with him missing due to suspension each year?



yes, i did make it up...but maybe the people at the noodle bar were rude to him, and he felt slighted...i don't feel like we know the 'honest' story....

being redirected? - so they arrested him? - sounds like bullshot to me....

for 2016 addison's cap hit is about $4.4mm...his 2027 5th year option will be around $17mm...that's about $11mm/yr...i'd say he's worth that even if he loses 3-4 games each year for acting like a knucklehead....


So the Vikings create an 'Addison ratio' where they actually factor in losing him for 3-4 games a year due to suspensions? Pay him for a full year but expect only 13 games from him. Pencil him in as the starter but before week 1 wave bye and say just pop back over in October... while they juggle the roster.

And if his crap continues the lost games due to suspensions will be much greater.
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