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RE: 2026 NFL Draft - 4/17/2026 9:35:28 AM   
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Minnesota Vikings
Picks: Nos. 18, 49, 82, 97, 163, 196, 234, 235, 244

It took a lot of roster-finagling for the Vikings to get to a cap-compliant position when this league year hit. As such, the Vikings have plenty of 2026 needs and plenty more soon-to-be big 2027 needs. That's a tough balancing act under regular conditions but remember the Vikings have an interim general manager right now. Head coach Kevin O'Connell has never been more powerful in the building. This draft might get weird.

First things first: The Vikings desperately need help on the defensive line. Both Javon Hargrave and Jonathan Allen were released for cap relief, and edge rusher Jonathan Greenard is reportedly on the trade market. I don't think the Vikings will grab either position at No. 18 -- the board isn't great for it -- but a trade down could return Missouri edge rusher Zion Young or Ohio State defensive tackle Kayden McDonald. With nine picks in hand, I'd say with surety the Vikings make at least two picks along their defensive front.

If Minnesota stays at No. 18, a common mock draft pairing gives it Dillon Thieneman, the safety from Oregon, to fill the shoes of Harrison Smith. It's a deep safety class with a few Day 2 options that coordinator Brian Flores will love for their football IQ -- USC's Kamari Ramsey, TCU's Bud Clark -- so I wouldn't mind the team passing on the position in Round 1.

That clears the Vikings to go for "best player available" at No. 18, which feels great. A tackle to provide insurance for Christian Darrisaw's health and Brian O'Neill's contract would be an excellent pick. A corner to challenge Isaiah Rodgers and James Pierre would help the defense take a step. At running back and tight end, Aaron Jones Sr. and T.

J. Hockenson both seem unlikely to return for 2027. At center, Blake Brandel is the starter in name only.

Not all of those positions will be optimal at 18, of course. But whenever a coach is in charge of a draft war room, my antennae perk up for aggressive, short-sighted trades that mortgage the future to fill the now. O'Connell's pride is wounded from the offense's failures last season, and I could see him tilting into an unnecessary Kenyon Sadiq trade-up accordingly.

The bottom line: Just take a lot of good players. You'll need them. (Don't trade up for a shiny offensive toy, Kevin O'Connell.)

I think that perspective is solid for an espn pundit.
I also worry about the draft room dynamic this offseason though somehow someway, I have more confidence in number cruncher Bzrez’s football knowledge over analytics loco Kwesi. But how much?
Will Brzez try to stamp his GM worthiness on picks over making boring conventional but consensus draft picks?
So if KOC has final say … I could definitely see his hand trembling with the Sadiq card, ready to turn it in the micro-second he makes it past the 17th pick. Since day one with Mundt, then Hock, then Oliver … he seems to have an outsized TE fetish.
Depending on who’s on the board, I wouldn’t mind Sadiq but I’ll be pissed, per the article, if we move up one spot for him.
With all our needs this the perfect draft for letting prospects come to us … instead of increasing risk/burning choices by moving up for someone we fancy.
a small tradedown here and there … ok.
This is going to be super interesting to see how the KOC Brzez Flores triangle operates under pressure.
Cant wait.



I predict they draft Offense early and go Defense late just because of Flores ability to find his type later.

Maybe I’m missing someone but, outside of round one, the only draft picks that have emerged into something are Nailor and Reichard. The rest are just bits and pieces … so far.

If what you mean is, Flores can do more with less … certainly. But just giving him the scrubs late in the draft will catch up, already has as teams have found ways to punch holes in his schemes late in the year. We need talent across the board.

We can only hope your prediction is lame.


Yes. All one has to do is read the gameday threads or rewatch the games. All the times the opposition converted on 3rd and a thousand. The middle of the field gap that Sean Peyton exposed in what, late 2024. How in almost every game the D wore down early because they couldn't get off the field although granted the offensive ineptitude helped cause that.

The D usually does well in points allowed which is the key barometer but getting some real talent on defense can help plug gaps and get them off the field. That gives the offense more opportunities to score and win games.

Agree too with Bill Jandro in that KOC gets to pound the table more than Flores.

It's like a hierarchical triangle of authority.
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RE: 2026 NFL Draft - 4/17/2026 9:36:11 AM   
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Which is shorter list than your original one. Personally, I'd rather hit on my first three rounds of draft picks than rely on finding diamonds in the rough.


Of course but do you think KOC can find a Center late? TE/HB there is a chance.

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RE: 2026 NFL Draft - 4/17/2026 9:38:36 AM  1 votes
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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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Minnesota Vikings
Picks: Nos. 18, 49, 82, 97, 163, 196, 234, 235, 244

It took a lot of roster-finagling for the Vikings to get to a cap-compliant position when this league year hit. As such, the Vikings have plenty of 2026 needs and plenty more soon-to-be big 2027 needs. That's a tough balancing act under regular conditions but remember the Vikings have an interim general manager right now. Head coach Kevin O'Connell has never been more powerful in the building. This draft might get weird.

First things first: The Vikings desperately need help on the defensive line. Both Javon Hargrave and Jonathan Allen were released for cap relief, and edge rusher Jonathan Greenard is reportedly on the trade market. I don't think the Vikings will grab either position at No. 18 -- the board isn't great for it -- but a trade down could return Missouri edge rusher Zion Young or Ohio State defensive tackle Kayden McDonald. With nine picks in hand, I'd say with surety the Vikings make at least two picks along their defensive front.

If Minnesota stays at No. 18, a common mock draft pairing gives it Dillon Thieneman, the safety from Oregon, to fill the shoes of Harrison Smith. It's a deep safety class with a few Day 2 options that coordinator Brian Flores will love for their football IQ -- USC's Kamari Ramsey, TCU's Bud Clark -- so I wouldn't mind the team passing on the position in Round 1.

That clears the Vikings to go for "best player available" at No. 18, which feels great. A tackle to provide insurance for Christian Darrisaw's health and Brian O'Neill's contract would be an excellent pick. A corner to challenge Isaiah Rodgers and James Pierre would help the defense take a step. At running back and tight end, Aaron Jones Sr. and T.

J. Hockenson both seem unlikely to return for 2027. At center, Blake Brandel is the starter in name only.

Not all of those positions will be optimal at 18, of course. But whenever a coach is in charge of a draft war room, my antennae perk up for aggressive, short-sighted trades that mortgage the future to fill the now. O'Connell's pride is wounded from the offense's failures last season, and I could see him tilting into an unnecessary Kenyon Sadiq trade-up accordingly.

The bottom line: Just take a lot of good players. You'll need them. (Don't trade up for a shiny offensive toy, Kevin O'Connell.)

I think that perspective is solid for an espn pundit.
I also worry about the draft room dynamic this offseason though somehow someway, I have more confidence in number cruncher Bzrez’s football knowledge over analytics loco Kwesi. But how much?
Will Brzez try to stamp his GM worthiness on picks over making boring conventional but consensus draft picks?
So if KOC has final say … I could definitely see his hand trembling with the Sadiq card, ready to turn it in the micro-second he makes it past the 17th pick. Since day one with Mundt, then Hock, then Oliver … he seems to have an outsized TE fetish.
Depending on who’s on the board, I wouldn’t mind Sadiq but I’ll be pissed, per the article, if we move up one spot for him.
With all our needs this the perfect draft for letting prospects come to us … instead of increasing risk/burning choices by moving up for someone we fancy.
a small tradedown here and there … ok.
This is going to be super interesting to see how the KOC Brzez Flores triangle operates under pressure.
Cant wait.



I predict they draft Offense early and go Defense late just because of Flores ability to find his type later.

Maybe I’m missing someone but, outside of round one, the only draft picks that have emerged into something are Nailor and Reichard. The rest are just bits and pieces … so far.

If what you mean is, Flores can do more with less … certainly. But just giving him the scrubs late in the draft will catch up, already has as teams have found ways to punch holes in his schemes late in the year. We need talent across the board.

We can only hope your prediction is lame.


Redmond, Tyrion Ingram-Dawkins, Richter, Drake Rodriguez, Taimani, Williams, Vaughn, McGlothern, Chambliss, and Batty are all on the roster, All drafted later or UDFA. All still on the roster.

1. UDFA is not a draft choice.
2. There is a difference between roster filler and players who actually see the field.


Ingram-Dawkins, Richter, Rodriguez, and Williams all saw the field last year as did the UDFAs Redmond and Richter.


Are there two Richters on the roster?
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RE: 2026 NFL Draft - 4/17/2026 10:21:10 AM  1 votes
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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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Minnesota Vikings
Picks: Nos. 18, 49, 82, 97, 163, 196, 234, 235, 244

It took a lot of roster-finagling for the Vikings to get to a cap-compliant position when this league year hit. As such, the Vikings have plenty of 2026 needs and plenty more soon-to-be big 2027 needs. That's a tough balancing act under regular conditions but remember the Vikings have an interim general manager right now. Head coach Kevin O'Connell has never been more powerful in the building. This draft might get weird.

First things first: The Vikings desperately need help on the defensive line. Both Javon Hargrave and Jonathan Allen were released for cap relief, and edge rusher Jonathan Greenard is reportedly on the trade market. I don't think the Vikings will grab either position at No. 18 -- the board isn't great for it -- but a trade down could return Missouri edge rusher Zion Young or Ohio State defensive tackle Kayden McDonald. With nine picks in hand, I'd say with surety the Vikings make at least two picks along their defensive front.

If Minnesota stays at No. 18, a common mock draft pairing gives it Dillon Thieneman, the safety from Oregon, to fill the shoes of Harrison Smith. It's a deep safety class with a few Day 2 options that coordinator Brian Flores will love for their football IQ -- USC's Kamari Ramsey, TCU's Bud Clark -- so I wouldn't mind the team passing on the position in Round 1.

That clears the Vikings to go for "best player available" at No. 18, which feels great. A tackle to provide insurance for Christian Darrisaw's health and Brian O'Neill's contract would be an excellent pick. A corner to challenge Isaiah Rodgers and James Pierre would help the defense take a step. At running back and tight end, Aaron Jones Sr. and T.

J. Hockenson both seem unlikely to return for 2027. At center, Blake Brandel is the starter in name only.

Not all of those positions will be optimal at 18, of course. But whenever a coach is in charge of a draft war room, my antennae perk up for aggressive, short-sighted trades that mortgage the future to fill the now. O'Connell's pride is wounded from the offense's failures last season, and I could see him tilting into an unnecessary Kenyon Sadiq trade-up accordingly.

The bottom line: Just take a lot of good players. You'll need them. (Don't trade up for a shiny offensive toy, Kevin O'Connell.)

I think that perspective is solid for an espn pundit.
I also worry about the draft room dynamic this offseason though somehow someway, I have more confidence in number cruncher Bzrez’s football knowledge over analytics loco Kwesi. But how much?
Will Brzez try to stamp his GM worthiness on picks over making boring conventional but consensus draft picks?
So if KOC has final say … I could definitely see his hand trembling with the Sadiq card, ready to turn it in the micro-second he makes it past the 17th pick. Since day one with Mundt, then Hock, then Oliver … he seems to have an outsized TE fetish.
Depending on who’s on the board, I wouldn’t mind Sadiq but I’ll be pissed, per the article, if we move up one spot for him.
With all our needs this the perfect draft for letting prospects come to us … instead of increasing risk/burning choices by moving up for someone we fancy.
a small tradedown here and there … ok.
This is going to be super interesting to see how the KOC Brzez Flores triangle operates under pressure.
Cant wait.



I predict they draft Offense early and go Defense late just because of Flores ability to find his type later.

Maybe I’m missing someone but, outside of round one, the only draft picks that have emerged into something are Nailor and Reichard. The rest are just bits and pieces … so far.

If what you mean is, Flores can do more with less … certainly. But just giving him the scrubs late in the draft will catch up, already has as teams have found ways to punch holes in his schemes late in the year. We need talent across the board.

We can only hope your prediction is lame.


Redmond, Tyrion Ingram-Dawkins, Richter, Drake Rodriguez, Taimani, Williams, Vaughn, McGlothern, Chambliss, and Batty are all on the roster, All drafted later or UDFA. All still on the roster.

So if they’re not cut in training camp … you consider it a good draft pick?

At least try to be honest.

All these players are obviously somewhere between roster placeholder and part-time contributor. At this point.

So no, outside of Turner, which Def. draftpicks look like starting material?

I hope they all become that, I really do.

But if we are talking about KOC feasting early in the draft and throwing Flores late rd scraps …

KOC (and Brzuz for not intervening) should be fired yesterday. Not to mention Flores being gone tomorrow for being disrespected.

I dont mind the first two or even three out of four picks going offense if that is how the draft falls and you are staying true to your board. For a HC/OC to do that as a premeditated approach … would be awful for us. IMO.

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RE: 2026 NFL Draft - 4/17/2026 10:30:37 AM  1 votes
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And even with a QB working for peanuts, the O commands 57% of the cap.

Intentionally throw Flores scraps again and he's going to file a lawsuit!
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RE: 2026 NFL Draft - 4/17/2026 10:34:16 AM   
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The final version of the Skor North draft board for the Minnesota Vikings' upcoming 2026 NFL Draft is Thor Nystrom’s Thor500 (sometimes referred to as Thor 550 in their final mock), his annual comprehensive 500-player big board with player comps and Relative Athletic Scores (RAS).
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Round 1, Pick 18: Dillon Thieneman (S, Oregon) – Ranked ~12th overall on Thor’s board. Elite fit as a potential Harrison Smith successor; versatile safety who plays either spot or slot. Stick-and-pick at 18—no trade up needed.
Round 2, Pick 56 (acquired via trade-back from 49, giving up two 7th-rounders to also gain pick 88): Dominic Orange (“Big Citrus,” iDL, Iowa State) – Ranked 53rd on Thor’s board. Force-multiplier run-stuffer (comp vibes to a Delvin Tomlinson type); elite size-adjusted athlete who’s hard to move and provides interior push. Trade-down rationale: already solid depth at the position.
Round 3, Pick 82: J'Sawn Barum / Jan Barum (edge/LB hybrid) – Ranked 38th on Thor’s board. Versatile “positionless” defender with experience at off-ball LB and edge; excellent in coverage, sideline-to-sideline in the run game, and on passing downs. Massive value (BPA with big board-to-consensus gap).
Round 3, Pick 88 (acquired in earlier trade): Jonah Coleman (RB, Washington) – Continuing the “purple” theme (college connection). Dynamic back added via trade-down.
Round 3, Pick 99 (acquired via additional trade-back from 97/99, gaining extra Day 3 picks like 121 and 237): Brian Parker (T converted to C, Duke) – 6'5", 305 lbs; ranked as the top center in the class. College tackle who projects inside; grouped with other high-end center prospects.
Round 4, Pick 121 (acquired via trade): Takario Davis (CB, Washington) – Ranked 94th on Thor’s board. Long, lanky boundary corner with “pterodactyl” wingspan; immediate CB3 competitor. Another big board value (30+ spots above consensus).
Round 5, Pick 163: Eric Mallister (WR, TCU) – Ranked 138th overall / WR21 on Thor’s board. High-upside boundary WR2 with elite ball-tracking, long-stride speed, and intermediate route-running. Some off-field/NIL background noted but viewed as a steal.
Round 6, Pick 196: Tanner Kosil (TE, Houston) – Ranked 123rd on Thor’s board. 6'7", 250 lbs with 33" arms and massive wingspan; reliable hands, huge catch radius, and box-out frame. Classic mid-round TE profile and a value pick.
Round 7, Pick 235: Barry’n Brown (WR/return specialist, LSU) – Explosive kick returner who thrives under new NFL kickoff rules; adds WR depth and special-teams juice. Another “purple” college connection.
Round 7, Pick 237 (acquired via trade): Eli Heidenreich (FB/H-back/all-purpose weapon, Navy) – Ranked 119th on Thor’s board (4th-round talent who fell). Hybrid “sniper” role in Navy’s offense—part WR, part RB, part FB; explosive receiver (1,000+ yards) with Christian McCaffrey-like testing. Potential CJ Ham replacement or multi-role offensive weapon (could add bulk to ~220 lbs)

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RE: 2026 NFL Draft - 4/17/2026 10:38:48 AM  2 votes
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Flores does so well late, the triangle's new strategy is BPA Offense.

After all, Flores' current slew of unknowns 'saw the field'. What more does he want.
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RE: 2026 NFL Draft - 4/17/2026 10:42:45 AM   
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Dane Bugler's 7 rd mock.

Count me in through rd 5.

1 (18). Jermod McCoy, CB, Tennessee
2 (49). Lee Hunter, DT, Texas Tech
3 (82). A.J. Haulcy, S, LSU
3 (97). Sam Hecht, C, Kansas State
5 (163). Jeff Caldwell, WR, Cincinnati
6 (196). Mason Reiger, edge, Wisconsin
7 (234). J.C. Davis, OT, Illinois
7 (235). Seth McGowan, RB, Kentucky
7 (244). Josh Cuevas, TE, Alabama


I don't know if I have liked any of his mocks even if they are close....he does do a lot of work though...

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RE: 2026 NFL Draft - 4/17/2026 10:46:03 AM   
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Mel Kiper Jr. (ESPN) – Final Rounds 1-2 mock (published April 15, 2026)
Kiper has long mocked Thieneman to Minnesota and sticks with it here as the long-term safety plan under Brian Flores. Round 1, Pick 18: Dillon Thieneman, S, Oregon (versatile playmaker with ball skills; Flores would deploy him everywhere).
Round 2, Pick 49: Mike Washington Jr., RB, Arkansas (adds speed/explosiveness with Aaron Jones and Jordan Mason on expiring deals).

Todd McShay (The Ringer) – Latest mock (April 16, 2026)
A notable outlier/shocker that breaks the safety trend in favor of addressing WR needs and ball-catching issues. Round 1, Pick 18: Denzel Boston, WR, Washington (big, physical outside receiver to complement Jefferson and Addison; strong contested-catch ability). McShay notes the stylistic fit for Minnesota’s offense.

Tom Fornelli (CBS Sports) – Mock 5.0 (April 15, 2026)
Aggressive trade-up scenario to secure a premium offensive piece. Round 1, Pick 9 (via trade with Chiefs): Jeremiyah Love, RB, Notre Dame (top RB in class; Vikings use one of their nine picks to address RB need instead of waiting). The trade sends Minnesota’s 18th pick + assets to KC.

Josh Edwards (CBS Sports) – Latest mock (April 17, 2026)
Another safety-first projection, this time with the Toledo prospect as the Harrison Smith successor. Round 1, Pick 18: Emmanuel McNeil-Warren, S, Toledo (physical, instinctive replacement; part of an unusual early run on safeties in the top 20).

Chad Reuter (NFL.com) – 7-round “Beast”-style mock (published April 17, 2026)
Focuses on cornerback to bolster the secondary and Flores’ scheme long-term. Round 1, Pick 18: Colton Hood, CB, Tennessee (speedy, fiery press-man corner; addresses ongoing need with Rodgers and Murphy’s contracts looming).

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RE: 2026 NFL Draft - 4/17/2026 11:06:16 AM   
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And even with a QB working for peanuts, the O commands 57% of the cap.

Intentionally throw Flores scraps again and he's going to file a lawsuit!

LOL. Bias against success might be tough for us to disprove.

Theres a lot of hyperbole about Flores but I dont really give him enough credit. Hard to be playoff competitive when all they give you is duct tape and some sticks.

A shame we didnt overhaul our scouting / personnel group after 2022 disaster or early this offeason.

Fortunately, we HAVE overhauled our approach this year. Our draftroom has a little maze with three mice wearing tiny jerseys, (offense, defense, st) … when our clock starts they’re released and first one to the cheeseboard, chooses.

(edit: ok a low blow even for me)

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RE: 2026 NFL Draft - 4/17/2026 12:27:35 PM   
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And even with a QB working for peanuts, the O commands 57% of the cap.

Intentionally throw Flores scraps again and he's going to file a lawsuit!

LOL. Bias against success might be tough for us to disprove.

Theres a lot of hyperbole about Flores but I dont really give him enough credit. Hard to be playoff competitive when all they give you is duct tape and some sticks.

A shame we didnt overhaul our scouting / personnel group after 2022 disaster or early this offeason.

Fortunately, we HAVE overhauled our approach this year. Our draftroom has a little maze with three mice wearing tiny jerseys, (offense, defense, st) … when our clock starts they’re released and first one to the cheeseboard, chooses.

(edit: ok a low blow even for me)


What's the role of Brzez in the maze scenario?

He seems like a no-frills guy. BPA all the way, no double or triple smokescreens, no trades, triple check that the phones and manual backups are working, alternate the picks between O and D (with a punter in the 5th or preferably 6th), etc.

Or is he some lurking madman who feels he has been ridiculed as just 'the contract guy' for decades and is ready to unleash the worst lessons from Spielman and Kwesi?
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RE: 2026 NFL Draft - 4/17/2026 12:48:08 PM   
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How much of a step down is Thieneman vs Downs?

The best S - Hamilton fell in our laps when no one thought he would and we passed. I feel like sitting and taking the 3rd best S doesn't take the sting of that away. I know no one sees Downs falling out of the top 10 but if he did would you want to trade up?
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RE: 2026 NFL Draft - 4/17/2026 1:13:55 PM   
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How much of a step down is Thieneman vs Downs?

The best S - Hamilton fell in our laps when no one thought he would and we passed. I feel like sitting and taking the 3rd best S doesn't take the sting of that away. I know no one sees Downs falling out of the top 10 but if he did would you want to trade up?


Who knows, but mock comments describe how Thieneman's skills and versatility mesh really well with how Flores deploys safeties. In that regard only, he may be a better selection than Downs.

Same with Emmanuel McNeil-Warren's versatility, but further down in the 1st round.
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RE: 2026 NFL Draft - 4/17/2026 1:23:37 PM   
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How much of a step down is Thieneman vs Downs?

The best S - Hamilton fell in our laps when no one thought he would and we passed. I feel like sitting and taking the 3rd best S doesn't take the sting of that away. I know no one sees Downs falling out of the top 10 but if he did would you want to trade up?



What I've heard/read about the 2 is that they are pretty close but what puts Downs over the top is his intelligence. They say he's yelling out coverages and plays before the ball is snapped and is often dead on.
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RE: 2026 NFL Draft - 4/17/2026 3:59:49 PM   
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How much of a step down is Thieneman vs Downs?

The best S - Hamilton fell in our laps when no one thought he would and we passed. I feel like sitting and taking the 3rd best S doesn't take the sting of that away. I know no one sees Downs falling out of the top 10 but if he did would you want to trade up?



What I've heard/read about the 2 is that they are pretty close but what puts Downs over the top is his intelligence. They say he's yelling out coverages and plays before the ball is snapped and is often dead on.

If Downs gets down to 14 or 15, we should think about it.

But, I think we caught a little glimpse at the end of the year in what they think of Ward. He is a physical, at the line of scrimmage type guy. Get Thieneman to play the centerfielder role and we are set. Mettulus also in the mix as hybrid LB/S.
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RE: 2026 NFL Draft - 4/17/2026 5:21:26 PM   
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My 2nd dark horse next to Uar Benard is kaden wetjen WR/KR.

If it feels he might make UDFA I'd use one of our 7ths. Twist my arm I'll say 6th.
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RE: 2026 NFL Draft - 4/17/2026 8:51:08 PM   
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How much of a step down is Thieneman vs Downs?

The best S - Hamilton fell in our laps when no one thought he would and we passed. I feel like sitting and taking the 3rd best S doesn't take the sting of that away. I know no one sees Downs falling out of the top 10 but if he did would you want to trade up?



What I've heard/read about the 2 is that they are pretty close but what puts Downs over the top is his intelligence. They say he's yelling out coverages and plays before the ball is snapped and is often dead on.

If Downs gets down to 14 or 15, we should think about it.

But, I think we caught a little glimpse at the end of the year in what they think of Ward. He is a physical, at the line of scrimmage type guy. Get Thieneman to play the centerfielder role and we are set. Mettulus also in the mix as hybrid LB/S.

I still have PTSD from 3 years of Queasy's pick trades.

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