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RE: Gopher Football - 11/19/2011 1:15:40 PM   
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And Gray makes an amazing pass.
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RE: Gopher Football - 11/19/2011 1:15:42 PM   
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Interefered with...and he STILL made the catch. Where is this coming from?? Score now! This red zone offense sucks.

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RE: Gopher Football - 11/19/2011 1:16:38 PM   
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Gray is every bit as dynamic as Vince Young or Michael Vick were. I'm completely convinced. He just doesn't have the receivers or line to make teams pay consistently. Never seen anything quite like him.

You are the opposite of Jim.

Our red zone offense still sucks.

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RE: Gopher Football - 11/19/2011 1:17:19 PM   
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That was a bad pass. DAMMIT!!!!!!!!!!

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RE: Gopher Football - 11/19/2011 1:18:13 PM   
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Crap!!!! That's probably the game. Not to be a debbydowner.

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RE: Gopher Football - 11/19/2011 1:19:31 PM   
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They need to be using Gray's legs in those situations. I know it's more difficult with more defenders in a smaller space, but come up with something creative.

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RE: Gopher Football - 11/19/2011 1:20:39 PM   
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Gray is every bit as dynamic as Vince Young or Michael Vick were. I'm completely convinced. He just doesn't have the receivers or line to make teams pay consistently. Never seen anything quite like him.

You are the opposite of Jim.

Our red zone offense still sucks.


Give him 2 or 3 years to develop in a system that works for him with competent guys around him. What do you think would happen? We just see flashes of what he's capable of as it is.
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RE: Gopher Football - 11/19/2011 2:00:30 PM   
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Mandel has the Gophers winning four games, one in the Big 10.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/football/ncaa/08/16/big-ten-preview/index.html?eref=sihp&sct=hp_t11_a2

Huh....that's what I said.

One Big Ten win is what I expected. Too bad we only won 1 conference game...I thought we'd get 2 or 3.

Before the season, I predicted our Big Ten win would be the final game against Illinois. I'm taking that back. Illinois has proven to be way too good for us. I do relish the Iowa win.

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RE: Gopher Football - 11/19/2011 2:02:27 PM   
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If we didn't have Gray, we would be winless.

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RE: Gopher Football - 11/19/2011 2:11:59 PM   
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Gray is a beast! Some amazing passes today, and willed his way into the endzone for the only touchdown. He handed Moulton a long touchdown but it slipped through his hands.

He had 2 offensive lineman push the pile though

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RE: Gopher Football - 11/19/2011 2:16:32 PM   
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Gray is a beast! Some amazing passes today, and willed his way into the endzone for the only touchdown. He handed Moulton a long touchdown but it slipped through his hands.

He had 2 offensive lineman push the pile though


He literally cannot do anything right.
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RE: Gopher Football - 11/19/2011 6:35:00 PM   
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Gray is a beast! Some amazing passes today, and willed his way into the endzone for the only touchdown. He handed Moulton a long touchdown but it slipped through his hands.

He had 2 offensive lineman push the pile though


He literally cannot do anything right.


No he had a pretty good day. I just wanted to point out that it wasn't him that scored by himself. Don't make him supper human

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RE: Gopher Football - 11/23/2011 2:24:16 AM   
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Still puzzles me how we stayed with USC this year.
I realize it was Game One of the year and all .... but that is one hell of a FB team.
Kiffin has kept them improving and interested, even without post-season incentive.
Barkley is outstanding and getting better all the time.

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RE: Gopher Football - 11/23/2011 9:03:24 AM   
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Conzemius (sp?) on KFAN this morning predicted a 34-21 Gophers win this weekend. Now I realize that Illinois has lost 5 in a row. And we could win....I predicted it at the beginning of the season. But how will we ever score 34 points on the #9 defesne in the nation? No way.

Conzemius is way too positive on the Gophers. He may have picked them to beat Wisconsin...not sure. He keeps talking about all this wonderful improvement over the last 5 games. Huh?? We got blasted/embarrassed by Wisconsin. We didn't really hang with Northwestern at all. Sticking around with Michigan State was fine, and beating Iowa cool. But those weren't THAT recent. The Wisconsin disaster and blah performance vs. Northwestern are more fresh in my mind. We've made some strides since the beginning of the Big 10 season, but not many. Our best game of the year was Game 1 vs. USC. That's not good.

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RE: Gopher Football - 11/25/2011 11:46:53 PM   
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Phil Nelson's career didn't end with a state title, but he put up some incredible numbers even in defeat last week.
This may work out really, really well.
It looks like Gray is coming into his own, and will have one more year to make some noise in the Big10 (next year).
And it looks like Nelson can use the time to get comfy at the level, and fill out his frame.
Shortell looked early like he was an answer, but has regressed, imo, in the times he has been given.
Keep building the depth, Jerry.
An upset over the Illini tomorrow would be a nice way to end this season, and springboard us into next year.

Pretty good call on the season, Matt ... you nailed it from what I remember of our predictions. I was too optimistic (not my usual m.o.)
But I do like where we seem to be headed.
Very little smoke being blown up our collective rectums this year ... I like that. Give it to us honest, coach, and we'll stay behind ya.

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RE: Gopher Football - 11/26/2011 5:30:20 AM   
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What an awesome kid.
Makes me feel bad for caring whether we win or lose every Saturday.
Great story. Makes you realize a lot of things. I've been involved in sports for almost 50 years, and very few of those years resulted in championship seasons.
But I do remember them ALL fondly, just like he does.  From the Stribs Scroggins :

Chris Bunders will play his final college football game Saturday afternoon at TCF Bank Stadium. He is one of 24 seniors who will be honored before the Gophers face Illinois to conclude a season that has provided more heartache than thrills.
Not to hear Bunders describe it, though. He sounds like a guy who's about to wrap up his fifth consecutive undefeated season, even though the record book says the Gophers are 19-42 since he joined the program.
"Playing college football, it's pretty hard to have a low moment," he said.
Maybe that's partly rose-colored introspection from a guy nearing the end of a personal journey. Senior Day always carries extra emotion for those involved. Everyone has different experiences and perspective, and a career rarely follows the mental road map athletes bring with them to campus.
Bunders, a 6-3, 292-pound offensive lineman, began his about a mile from where it will end, on the practice field at the Gophers football facility. He took part in the Gophers summer camp after his junior year at Osseo High and allowed me to shadow him for a story. Like many high school recruits, Bunders attended the camp with the hope of impressing the coaching staff enough to earn a scholarship.
He performed well that week and ultimately received a full-ride scholarship from Glen Mason. Bunders celebrated by going walleye fishing at his family's cabin.
"Minnesota just seemed like the right place for me," he said at the time.
Bunders still feels that way, despite a career littered with difficult moments and challenges. He's been in a losing locker room twice as often as a joyous one. He was recruited by Mason, played 3 1/2 seasons for Tim Brewster, five games for interim coach Jeff Horton and his senior season under Jerry Kill.
He has had too many coordinators, assistant coaches and offensive systems to count.
"We've changed our offense almost on a yearly basis," he said.
He is able to laugh about it now. He even described it as "fun." That's just Bunders' personality. To dwell on the hardships obscures all the positive experiences.
He experienced two bowl games and had two home stadiums, the Metrodome and TCF Bank Stadium. He will make his 40th career start Saturday. He has played three different positions -- right guard, left guard and now right tackle -- and avoided serious injury.
He's on track to graduate with a degree in civil engineering this spring, and he's engaged to his longtime girlfriend, Jennifer Polansky. The two met the first day of their sophomore year at Osseo and began dating in college. Bunders popped the question on a cruise in front of several hundred people this past spring. (He was pretty confident in the answer, but boy that could have been awkward.)
"That would've been a long cruise," he said, smiling.
His highlights on the field come easy.
"Obviously the last two years beating Iowa," he said. "You can't explain that feeling or atmosphere after the game with all the people on the field. It's crazy. Just amazing."
The low point(s)? He paused for a few seconds.
"You know, I really can't think of one," he said. "Every time something changes, it brings new challenges. I've enjoyed all the new challenges that we've had. Obviously you have some tough moments, but it's been a blast."
Bunders hopes to continue playing football, but he understands the odds of him making it to the NFL. He plans to work out for scouts at the Gophers' pro day, but he's also actively looking for employment in the engineering world.
"Hopefully by the time next semester gets done, I'll have a job one way or the other," he said.
Thus will begin a new chapter in his life. That's one of the great things about college athletics. You meet a big, affable kid entering college wide-eyed and then get to watch him grow as a person and player over the years.
It doesn't always work out that way, of course. Some don't make it. They choose different paths. Some can't handle the responsibilities and commitment required of them.
But for those that do, Bunders said, the reward is immeasurable. Maybe not always in wins and losses, but with the entire experience.
"It's a great journey," he said. "Now it's kind of coming to an end. It's a surreal feeling. You dream about it growing up high school. When it finally comes true, you just enjoy the ride."

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RE: Gopher Football - 11/26/2011 4:21:43 PM   
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What a half. I don't know when I've seen a better one for a Gophers football team. Let's hope we put the foot on the neck in the 2nd and this spurs a whole bunch of ticket renewals next year. MarQueis is a beast. RaShede Hageman has become unblockable. And this team has bought in to Jerry's system. Fantastic.
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RE: Gopher Football - 11/26/2011 4:28:56 PM   
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Since I missed the 1st half, I'm afraid to watch the 2nd half.

Pete, I'm reading another book about young lawyers. Are you doing the appropriate amount of pro bono work?

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RE: Gopher Football - 11/26/2011 4:43:27 PM   
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What a half. I don't know when I've seen a better one for a Gophers football team. Let's hope we put the foot on the neck in the 2nd and this spurs a whole bunch of ticket renewals next year. MarQueis is a beast. RaShede Hageman has become unblockable. And this team has bought in to Jerry's system. Fantastic.


I just need to know where this defense has been. Can't remember seeing so many solid tackles

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RE: Gopher Football - 11/26/2011 4:59:20 PM   
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What was that? A 2 yard punt?

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RE: Gopher Football - 11/26/2011 5:32:52 PM   
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Told you guys we'd win this game for our 3rd win of the season.

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RE: Gopher Football - 11/26/2011 5:39:51 PM   
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What the heck happened to Illinois since the start of the season? Not to take anything away from the Gophers, they played hard and it's nice to go out with a win. But this Illinois team...that has to be one of the most lethargic, lifeless college football performances I've seen in a while.
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RE: Gopher Football - 11/26/2011 5:49:31 PM   
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Also one of the most disciplined Gopher performances in some time.
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RE: Gopher Football - 11/26/2011 5:52:31 PM   
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Great game Gophers.
I'm thrilled for the program and especially for the Seniors and coaches.

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RE: Gopher Football - 11/26/2011 7:10:14 PM   
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Best part of this team, they actually get the same coaching staff next year with most likely same system

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