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RE: Gopher Football - 11/28/2015 8:00:41 PM   
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I guess it's my fault for believing the hype but I've never been so disappointed by a Gopher FB season in my life. We were a really popular pick to win the West (a LOT of ppl picked us). Kill's reputation ect...it was all there and I ate it up. I knew we wouldn't win a title but I really thought this was a year that had a chance to vault us to that MSU/Wis level for recruits.

Hype, new stadium, Kill's reputation a very nice bowl game and a program that was clearly on the rise. It was right there for the taking and we shit the bed.

1. Kill is gone and we panicked in to his replacement who's shown me nothing that makes me think he can win.
2. Our offense was vogue back in 1991. No way we attract any reinforcements at this point.
3. I expect a lot of TO with recruits and we aren't getting anything of note.

I don't buy the injury thing either. We got beat, at home, against TCU with an entire offseason to plan for it and a very healthy team. The "moral" victories like:

1. We held TCU to their lowest output
2. We could have beaten Michigan
3. We played Nebraska tough
4. OSU was crapping thier pants
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. are just fluff. We are not good and it's not looking to get any better. It "may" but until the AD really gets a clue, we are going to be lucky to be Mason's teams. That's our ceiling and it's depressing as hell.
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RE: Gopher Football - 11/29/2015 6:09:01 PM   
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Life in a REAL FB program in a REAL conference

Georgia has fired coach Mark Richt, according to various reports.
ESPN.com’s Mark Schlabach was the first to report the move.

Georgia will hold a press conference on Monday.

Richt was 145-51 in 15 seasons with the Bulldogs, including a 9-3 record this year. The Bulldogs defeated Georgia Tech on Saturday to end the regular season.

Richt won two SEC titles at Georgia, but the last came in 2005. Georgia hasn’t played for an SEC title since 2012. However, Richt has only had one season where he’s finished with fewer than eight wins (6-7 in 2010).

Georgia athletic director Greg McGarity issued a statement Sunday thanking Richt for his service and offering him a chance to stay at the university in a lesser role.

Mark has the opportunity to remain on our staff at the University of Georgia, and would be heavily involved with outreach programs for our former football lettermen via the PO Network as well as other University and Athletic Association initiatives.
Rumors of Richt’s firing have been floating around all season, but many believed after a 9-3 campaign that included three straight wins to end the season, Richt would survive for at least another year. However, Georgia was under a bit of pressure to make a move, especially with Florida getting better in the first year under a new coach and other fellow SEC East opponents Missouri and South Carolina looking for new leadership as well.

Also, Richt’s 5-10 record against rival Florida has been a major sticking point with boosters and fans.


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RE: Gopher Football - 11/29/2015 6:23:06 PM   
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QB coach and Off cordinator contracts not renewed.....big news coming from the U Today.....

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RE: Gopher Football - 11/29/2015 8:39:04 PM   
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QB coach and Off cordinator contracts not renewed.....big news coming from the U Today.....



Darn, I was hoping Claeys realized how over-matched he is, and decided to step down.

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RE: Gopher Football - 11/29/2015 8:43:57 PM   
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Now, more than ever, the failure by the university to at least explore its options seems like a potential mistake. Especially, when you realize none of us have any idea if Claeys can handle this job.


http://www.1500espn.com/gophers-2/2015/11/zulgad-claeys-makes-one-thing-clear-this-isnt-jerrys-program-anymore/

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RE: Gopher Football - 11/29/2015 8:47:37 PM   
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Looking at this situation from outside of Minnesota, the hiring of Claeys definitely seemed like a knee-jerk reaction. His actions today in firing the the OC and QB coach may help quell unrest for a bit, but there's little evidence that he's the right choice to lead the UofM football program. Most teams looking to fill a HC take a while to interview candidates, and it's possible that the UofM could have landed a superior up-and-coming coach with a bit more searching.

On the other hand, even a great coaching staff may not not be able to lift the program very high. Having lived in 3 different Big Ten states (MN, WI, IA) for several years, it's eye-opening to see the kind of support opposing schools get, not only from their fans, but also from their media, store marketing and so forth. That support is a key ingredient for landing recruits, especially in-state or from nearby states. The new stadium isn't really a factor, nor is the planned athletic village, and I fear it will be a monumental waste to create that. A bigger issue for many would-be recruits are things that MN simply doesn't have, including aspects of the campus itself and this broad level of support. Outside of demolishing huge areas in and around the school, then remodeling and restructuring it to be a more alluring campus, there isn't much that can be done for the UofM layout. The fan and media support could be broadened, but the UofM sports will generally play 2nd fiddle to MN's pro teams. It can be done - Wisconsin is evidence of it, and it's football has strong support despite being in the same state as the Packers. Meanwhile, other teams like Iowa or Nebraska have no such competition, and they will always have a superior media and fan support from their states. As a result, even if the UofM does manage to find a good coach, it's going to very hard for them to recruit. Would-be coaches realize this. The UofM is far from being a football factory, and within the Big10, at least half the teams in the conference (OSU, Mich, Mich St, Wisc, Iowa, Neb, Penn St, NW) can out-recruit the UofM.

Scheduling 4 non-conf cream puffs, and getting a good draw from the B10 east is about the only hope this program has for getting winning record. The odds that Wisc, Neb, Iowa and Northwestern will all falter during the same year are very slim, as are any hopes of winning the Big10 west. Seasons like this one, with only a couple of conference wins will continue to be the norm. I know it hurts to hear this, but unless things change drastically, that's how it will be.

Given how badly the deck is stacked against the UofM's football program, does it make sense for the University to continue to invest in its current form? Does fielding a mediocre team really help the school overall, or could that money be better used elsewhere? Options of moving to a weaker conference, a lower division or even cutting the sport entirely may seem extreme, but they might be better for the university overall.

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RE: Gopher Football - 11/30/2015 10:20:46 AM   
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I think the main issue with the team the last 2 years has been the offense. Apparently Claeys thinks it was the coaches. Hard to recruit better talent with the way the offense was performing.

If you could combine Claeys defense with Glen Mason's running game...we would have something.

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RE: Gopher Football - 11/30/2015 10:21:23 AM   
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Good stuff bgd.
Thanks for sharing.
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RE: Gopher Football - 11/30/2015 10:25:48 AM   
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Life in a REAL FB program in a REAL conference

Georgia has fired coach Mark Richt, according to various reports.
ESPN.com’s Mark Schlabach was the first to report the move.

Georgia will hold a press conference on Monday.

Richt was 145-51 in 15 seasons with the Bulldogs, including a 9-3 record this year. The Bulldogs defeated Georgia Tech on Saturday to end the regular season.

Richt won two SEC titles at Georgia, but the last came in 2005. Georgia hasn’t played for an SEC title since 2012. However, Richt has only had one season where he’s finished with fewer than eight wins (6-7 in 2010).

Georgia athletic director Greg McGarity issued a statement Sunday thanking Richt for his service and offering him a chance to stay at the university in a lesser role.

Mark has the opportunity to remain on our staff at the University of Georgia, and would be heavily involved with outreach programs for our former football lettermen via the PO Network as well as other University and Athletic Association initiatives.
Rumors of Richt’s firing have been floating around all season, but many believed after a 9-3 campaign that included three straight wins to end the season, Richt would survive for at least another year. However, Georgia was under a bit of pressure to make a move, especially with Florida getting better in the first year under a new coach and other fellow SEC East opponents Missouri and South Carolina looking for new leadership as well.

Also, Richt’s 5-10 record against rival Florida has been a major sticking point with boosters and fans.


With high expectations, and stuff ....
Leidner went on and on about how well they played this year, so happy to compete.
Wow. Just stuff you don't want to hear from your under .500 FB team.
There's no plan in place to ever win something big here. None.

I'll say it again. Kicked Michgan and Iowas asses less than a year ago.
Look where they are. Look where we are.
Frustrating and pathetic. No excuses for this type of fall-back in one short year.
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RE: Gopher Football - 11/30/2015 10:27:19 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

I guess it's my fault for believing the hype but I've never been so disappointed by a Gopher FB season in my life. We were a really popular pick to win the West (a LOT of ppl picked us). Kill's reputation ect...it was all there and I ate it up. I knew we wouldn't win a title but I really thought this was a year that had a chance to vault us to that MSU/Wis level for recruits.

Hype, new stadium, Kill's reputation a very nice bowl game and a program that was clearly on the rise. It was right there for the taking and we shit the bed.

1. Kill is gone and we panicked in to his replacement who's shown me nothing that makes me think he can win.
2. Our offense was vogue back in 1991. No way we attract any reinforcements at this point.
3. I expect a lot of TO with recruits and we aren't getting anything of note.

I don't buy the injury thing either. We got beat, at home, against TCU with an entire offseason to plan for it and a very healthy team. The "moral" victories like:

1. We held TCU to their lowest output
2. We could have beaten Michigan
3. We played Nebraska tough
4. OSU was crapping thier pants
.
.
. are just fluff. We are not good and it's not looking to get any better. It "may" but until the AD really gets a clue, we are going to be lucky to be Mason's teams. That's our ceiling and it's depressing as hell.

Great post.
Sorry to always slurp up your stuff, but it's lock-step to how I feel about this.
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RE: Gopher Football - 11/30/2015 10:28:43 AM   
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Oh, and btw ... The officiating was HORRIFICALLY BAD
even by the shitty B10 standards
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RE: Gopher Football - 11/30/2015 10:45:33 AM   
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No excuses for this type of fall-back in one short year.


And who does that fall on?

Coaches

So 2 guys who 'shared playcalling' get canned by the new emperor.

Hired too quickly.

Welcome back to Loser-ville. Can't wait to see what crap he makes up the reign of Tracy. Not optimistic.

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RE: Gopher Football - 11/30/2015 11:02:30 AM   
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I'm actually encouraged by the decision to can Limegrover and the QB coach. He at least wasn't satisfied with the Kill status quo and spewing about the great continuity in the coaching staff. As Jesser said; "1991 called. They want their offense back." Claeys at least recognizes that the offense is a big problem and that this program has failed to develop a QB in 5 years. Here is his first chance to demonstrate what kind of a program he will have. Anyone can fire a coach. The test is can he find somebody who can recruit and develop offensive talent? I hope he can. I opposed the decision to hire him, but I hope he surprises the hell out of me. I'm so damn sick of starting over.

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RE: Gopher Football - 11/30/2015 11:05:34 AM   
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I'm actually encouraged by the decision to can Limegrover and the QB coach. He at least wasn't satisfied with the Kill status quo and spewing about the great continuity in the coaching staff. As Jesser said; "1991 called. They want their offense back." Claeys at least recognizes that the offense is a big problem and that this program has failed to develop a QB in 5 years. Here is his first chance to demonstrate what kind of a program he will have. Anyone can fire a coach. The test is can he find somebody who can recruit and develop offensive talent? I hope he can. I opposed the decision to hire him, but I hope he surprises the hell out of me. I'm so damn sick of starting over.


I believe he's recruited 2 QBs out of the metro area. The questions are: Will they stay at QB, and will they be ready to help soon?

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RE: Gopher Football - 11/30/2015 11:06:54 AM   
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Dan O’Brien, from the Gophers athletics department, has been tabbed as a new football coach under head coach Tracy Claeys, the school announced Monday.

O’Brien is the former director of football operations for the Gophers (2008-14) and had served as senior associate athletic director before accepting the job on the coaching staff. He’ll be co-special teams coordinator, assistant defensive backs coach and assistant to the head coach, according to the Gophers.

The hire is technically filling the spot vacated when Jerry Kill retired and Claeys was promoted from defensive coordinator to interim head coach, before eventually having his interim tag removed with a contract extension. O’Brien’s hire also comes one day after Claeys opened up two more spots on the coaching staff, firing longtime offensive coordinator Matt Limegrover and quarterback coach Jim Zebrowski.

Before he joined the University of Minnesota in an administrator’s role, O’Brien was the athletics director at Hamline in St. Paul. Before that he was at Concordia-St. Paul, as both the head football coach and the A.D.

The Gophers say that he’ll help recruit in-state high school students, along with linebackers coach Mike Sherels.

“I tried to get Dan to join the coaching staff the last time we had an opening, but the timing was not right for him and his family,” Claeys said in a press release. “Dan has been a head coach, a coordinator and an assistant coach at the collegiate and high school level and nobody knows our state and Minnesota football better than him. He will certainly make us better on the field, but will also help us succeed off the field in fundraising, community engagement and recruiting Minnesota.”


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RE: Gopher Football - 11/30/2015 11:10:14 AM   
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I'm actually encouraged by the decision to can Limegrover and the QB coach. He at least wasn't satisfied with the Kill status quo and spewing about the great continuity in the coaching staff. As Jesser said; "1991 called. They want their offense back." Claeys at least recognizes that the offense is a big problem and that this program has failed to develop a QB in 5 years. Here is his first chance to demonstrate what kind of a program he will have. Anyone can fire a coach. The test is can he find somebody who can recruit and develop offensive talent? I hope he can. I opposed the decision to hire him, but I hope he surprises the hell out of me. I'm so damn sick of starting over.


I believe he's recruited 2 QBs out of the metro area. The questions are: Will they stay at QB, and will they be ready to help soon?


Hard to say. I have been less than impressed with the position switches they have done to this point. I keep harping on Jeff Jones being the most coveted RB recruit they have had in many years and they have switched his position twice without ever giving him a chance to run the ball.

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RE: Gopher Football - 11/30/2015 11:20:48 AM   
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This may be too low of a bar for some, but I think we might have a great QB coach candidate down here.
Has been our HC and turned our NSIC doormat into a winner.
Familiar name .... Corey Sauter.
Don't want to lose him here, but he might be a good fit. Kids love him. Had some moderate success as a player.
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RE: Gopher Football - 11/30/2015 11:26:19 AM   
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This may be too low of a bar for some, but I think we might have a great QB coach candidate down here.
Has been our HC and turned our NSIC doormat into a winner.
Familiar name .... Corey Sauter.
Don't want to lose him here, but he might be a good fit. Kids love him. Had some moderate success as a player.


That's the ex Gophs QB no?

Agreed Sweens. Stop switching guys. They don't seem to be able to coach them up to a new spot.

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RE: Gopher Football - 11/30/2015 11:27:15 AM   
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Yessir
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RE: Gopher Football - 11/30/2015 11:36:13 AM   
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I have heard some rumors about Adam Weber too....Sauter or Weber--would be very good choices for QB coaches at the very least...

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RE: Gopher Football - 11/30/2015 12:41:49 PM   
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We lost our star QB recruit out of Michigan as a result of the Limegrover firing. Again, great job in extending Claeys in order to nail down this recruiting class.

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RE: Gopher Football - 11/30/2015 12:47:46 PM   
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We lost our star QB recruit out of Michigan as a result of the Limegrover firing. Again, great job in extending Claeys in order to nail down this recruiting class.


A recruit unimpressed w/ Claeys and the MN program? Can' be!!

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RE: Gopher Football - 11/30/2015 12:54:13 PM   
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Again, I am not going to be short sighted like the Gophers were in hiring Claeys. Getting rid of Limegrover and the QB coach seems like a good move to me in the big picture. After 5 years we had the 9th ranked offense in the Big Ten and had not developed a single QB of any note. Continuity is one thing, but I'm glad this was one status quo that Claeys was unwilling to live with.

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RE: Gopher Football - 11/30/2015 2:26:40 PM   
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I have heard some rumors about Adam Weber too....Sauter or Weber--would be very good choices for QB coaches at the very least...

Agreed
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RE: Gopher Football - 11/30/2015 10:02:13 PM   
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We lost our star QB recruit out of Michigan as a result of the Limegrover firing. Again, great job in extending Claeys in order to nail down this recruiting class.


There are also rumors that we pulled the offer from that kid. Look at his offer list.... not that impressive. Toledo is his next best offer.

Also, there are rumors that the 4 star QB Seth Green may be coming here. He moved from MN to TX for his senior year. Maybe that's why the kid from Michigan isn't coming.
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