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RE: McNabb available - 11/20/2008 12:45:10 PM   
John Childress


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I wouldn't want McNabb here unless our coach was Singletary or someone like that.  McNabb still can throw the ball better than anyone we have on our roster or are likely to have on our roster next year.  He can't run any more but so what.

However, he tends to take a puXXy way out of confrontations many times instead of manning up.  He lost respect in Philly by talking about Owens behind his back while saying nothing to his face.  Now Owens would have knocked him out but people would have had respect for him.  mcNabb is ultra sensitive and still talks about being booed at the draft.  Dude, how many millions have you banked since then?  You guys can throw tomatoes at me for $8M/year!

As for the Eagles, McNabb was only part of the problem.  He catches the heat but the Eagles, back in their good days, got to 4 NFC CGs mostly on the strength of Jim Johnson's defense.  That defense fell apart just as much as McNabb in the big games.

The Rams put up 29 on that D in 2001.  The next year the Bucs put up 27 at the Vet in Philly.

A few years ago, before Culpepper blew out his knee, I did a study that really illustrated the effect of a good scoring defense in the playoffs.  McNabb has never won a playoff game where his defense gives up 20 points (0-4).  He is 7-1 when his defense holds the other team to less than 20 points.

McNabb would be a solid upgrade, but he is no Brady or Montana. 

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RE: McNabb available - 11/20/2008 1:01:40 PM   
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Somebody make a McNabb in purple thread. In fact, make a thread for every single guy in the NFL that isn't on our team.
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RE: McNabb available - 11/20/2008 1:24:06 PM   
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Too late

We already have the General NFL thread for that stuff.

Wait, that is exactly where we are!  What a shock.

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RE: McNabb available - 11/20/2008 1:36:20 PM   
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ORIGINAL: John Childress

I wouldn't want McNabb here unless our coach was Singletary or someone like that.  McNabb still can throw the ball better than anyone we have on our roster or are likely to have on our roster next year.  He can't run any more but so what.

However, he tends to take a puXXy way out of confrontations many times instead of manning up.  He lost respect in Philly by talking about Owens behind his back while saying nothing to his face.  Now Owens would have knocked him out but people would have had respect for him.  mcNabb is ultra sensitive and still talks about being booed at the draft.  Dude, how many millions have you banked since then?  You guys can throw tomatoes at me for $8M/year!

As for the Eagles, McNabb was only part of the problem.  He catches the heat but the Eagles, back in their good days, got to 4 NFC CGs mostly on the strength of Jim Johnson's defense.  That defense fell apart just as much as McNabb in the big games.

The Rams put up 29 on that D in 2001.  The next year the Bucs put up 27 at the Vet in Philly.

A few years ago, before Culpepper blew out his knee, I did a study that really illustrated the effect of a good scoring defense in the playoffs.  McNabb has never won a playoff game where his defense gives up 20 points (0-4).  He is 7-1 when his defense holds the other team to less than 20 points.

McNabb would be a solid upgrade, but he is no Brady or Montana. 


No he isn't Brady or Montana...but he is a well established veteran and starter and we don't need a Brady, Montana, Manning etc.  We need a solid QB...not a great one.  A Solid QB makes this team very good.  McNabb would fit will.

My only concern is his injury history. 

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RE: McNabb available - 11/20/2008 2:09:38 PM   
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On the positive side, McNabb plays well in Domes.

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RE: McNabb available - 11/20/2008 2:25:17 PM   
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ORIGINAL: John Childress
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The Rams put up 29 on that D in 2001.  The next year the Bucs put up 27 at the Vet in Philly.

A few years ago, before Culpepper blew out his knee, I did a study that really illustrated the effect of a good scoring defense in the playoffs.  McNabb has never won a playoff game where his defense gives up 20 points (0-4).  He is 7-1 when his defense holds the other team to less than 20 points.

McNabb would be a solid upgrade, but he is no Brady or Montana. 


Okay, so this got me curious.

Brady's playoff record with less than 20 points allowed is 9-1, he's 5-2(!) with more than 20 points allowed.  (0-1 with over 30 points allowed)
Montana's playoff record with less than 20 points allowed was 11-2, he was 6-6 with more than 20 points allowed.  (0-4 with over 30 points allowed)
and for grins-
Daunte Culpepper's playoff records with < 20 pts allowed is 2-0, he's 0-2 with more than 20 points allowed.  (0-1 with over 30 points allowed)

My Conclusions-
1) I guess Brad H is right.  Football is a team game .
2) Even the best QBs in history rarely make up for a defense that allows 30+ points.
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RE: NFL News - 11/20/2008 2:29:29 PM   
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... and that reminds of something I meant to post the other day.   Why are Viking fans salivating for a guy whose own fan base are counting the days to when he's gone?    If Philly wants him out, tell me again why he's such a great pick-up?


Philly also hates Santa Claus, but I still want him coming to my house on Christmas Eve....

McNabb would be an upgrade, but I'd still want a QBotF too.
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RE: NFL News - 11/20/2008 2:35:37 PM   
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Brady's playoff record with less than 20 points allowed is 9-1

I bet that "1" burns more than any other loss in his career.

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RE: NFL News - 11/20/2008 2:40:09 PM   
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Here's a video of a great athlete. I know this isn't the thread but you've gotta see this.

Carl “Sugarfoot” Joseph, despite losing his left leg, was an outstanding high school athlete in Florida during the late 1970’s. Check out this video, he’s like a one-legged Charles Jefferson.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kViBAohA_nI

Here we see him laying a horse-collar tackle that would make Roy Williams blush. Oh yeah, and he could dunk a basketball too. Today he is a teacher, coach and lead singer for a gospel group.

According to the video, he also won the “Hustler Award”. Seriously, this story is ten kinds of inspirational. Get up off your lazy ass and do something positive with your two good legs today, you lazy hump.
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RE: NFL News - 11/20/2008 7:50:05 PM   
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Big Ben is either hurt or really has lost his accuracy

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RE: McNabb Needs to Lose 30 Lbs - 11/21/2008 12:39:54 PM   
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ORIGINAL: John Childress

I wouldn't want McNabb here unless our coach was Singletary or someone like that.  McNabb still can throw the ball better than anyone we have on our roster or are likely to have on our roster next year.  He can't run any more but so what.

However, he tends to take a puXXy way out of confrontations many times instead of manning up.  He lost respect in Philly by talking about Owens behind his back while saying nothing to his face.  Now Owens would have knocked him out but people would have had respect for him.  mcNabb is ultra sensitive and still talks about being booed at the draft.  Dude, how many millions have you banked since then?  You guys can throw tomatoes at me for $8M/year!

As for the Eagles, McNabb was only part of the problem.  He catches the heat but the Eagles, back in their good days, got to 4 NFC CGs mostly on the strength of Jim Johnson's defense.  That defense fell apart just as much as McNabb in the big games.

The Rams put up 29 on that D in 2001.  The next year the Bucs put up 27 at the Vet in Philly.

A few years ago, before Culpepper blew out his knee, I did a study that really illustrated the effect of a good scoring defense in the playoffs.  McNabb has never won a playoff game where his defense gives up 20 points (0-4).  He is 7-1 when his defense holds the other team to less than 20 points.

McNabb would be a solid upgrade, but he is no Brady or Montana. 


Doesnt get talked about much, but McNabb's gotten flabby.  I watched a great baseball player in Ken Griffey decline like the stock market, because he didn't take care of himself in the off-season.

I think the whole OT thing has been blown out of proportion, but he doesn't strike me as a guy who works out particularly hard in the off-season.

Donovan needs to lose a good 30 lbs...........from what I can tell.

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RE: McNabb Needs to Lose 30 Lbs - 11/21/2008 2:29:49 PM   
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That's been my thought on him for a few years, Andy.

Really, I LOVED him in college.  He was awesome.  I just have always thought he's been really overrated by the media in the pros.

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RE: McNabb Needs to Lose 30 Lbs - 11/21/2008 4:53:52 PM   
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Maybe the chance to work with Chili again would motivate Donavan. 
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RE: McNabb Needs to Lose 30 Lbs - 11/21/2008 7:54:25 PM   
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Was last Sundays' Charger/Steeler game 'swayed' for the point spread ?
 
I only saw parts of the game, but what I did see, I thought the officiating was heavily favoring SD.  I was wondering if all the money was bet on Pittsburgh (which actually turned out to be a reality) to cover the spread and if something fishy was going on.

I missed the very end of the game, and then got even MORE suspicious as the ending was explained to me.  It was my understanding that Pittsburgh should have been awarded a TD and it was somehow taken away by an obvious ref error.

Then, 2 days later our sports section has an article about the heavy betting on Pittsburgh to cover the spread, and how the bettors lost out because of an incorrect call.  The league declared on Monday that it was an incorrect call, but that did NO good to the bettors. 

IF a 'sway' was going on favoring SD to cover the spread, and Pittsburgh was playing so well it had overcome biased officiating against it and was making the game very close, IF Pittsburgh got a last second TD, something had to be done to take it away.  And it was, perhaps masked as "ERROR".

To prevent the league from getting busted for messing with games ('swaying' them), they issue fines for coaches and players that criticize officiating.  Too much criticism and people might start to catch on that the league actually IS messing with the spreads (keeping the games unpredictable, so it doesn't get too easy for bettors, and encouraging parity to keep fan interest), and then that might spark some investigation.  They also want NO reproduction of or copying of the games, or any other use, so as to discourage investigation of the officiating.

Did you guys consider that the Vikings/Saints game could have been a 'sway' in favor of the Vikes ?  I thought the Vikes got A LOT of favorable calls in a game that looked like early on the Saints could make it a blowout.  The Saints overcame the many calls against it with 2 (almost 3) improbably kickoff returns from Bush, and almost won the game.  It ended up being a 2 (possible 3, if I had the tape and more time to analyze it)  on my 'sway' scale (total of 5, 5 being a strong likelihood of a 'sway', possible 'fix'). 
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RE: McNabb Needs to Lose 30 Lbs - 11/21/2008 8:22:03 PM   
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Was last Sundays' Charger/Steeler game 'swayed' for the point spread ?
 
I only saw parts of the game, but what I did see, I thought the officiating was heavily favoring SD.  I was wondering if all the money was bet on Pittsburgh (which actually turned out to be a reality) to cover the spread and if something fishy was going on.

I missed the very end of the game, and then got even MORE suspicious as the ending was explained to me.  It was my understanding that Pittsburgh should have been awarded a TD and it was somehow taken away by an obvious ref error.

Then, 2 days later our sports section has an article about the heavy betting on Pittsburgh to cover the spread, and how the bettors lost out because of an incorrect call.  The league declared on Monday that it was an incorrect call, but that did NO good to the bettors. 

IF a 'sway' was going on favoring SD to cover the spread, and Pittsburgh was playing so well it had overcome biased officiating against it and was making the game very close, IF Pittsburgh got a last second TD, something had to be done to take it away.  And it was, perhaps masked as "ERROR".

To prevent the league from getting busted for messing with games ('swaying' them), they issue fines for coaches and players that criticize officiating.  Too much criticism and people might start to catch on that the league actually IS messing with the spreads (keeping the games unpredictable, so it doesn't get too easy for bettors, and encouraging parity to keep fan interest), and then that might spark some investigation.  They also want NO reproduction of or copying of the games, or any other use, so as to discourage investigation of the officiating.


You realize you can record NFL games at your whim?


Did you guys consider that the Vikings/Saints game could have been a 'sway' in favor of the Vikes ?  I thought the Vikes got A LOT of favorable calls in a game that looked like early on the Saints could make it a blowout.  The Saints overcame the many calls against it with 2 (almost 3) improbably kickoff returns from Bush, and almost won the game.  It ended up being a 2 (possible 3, if I had the tape and more time to analyze it)  on my 'sway' scale (total of 5, 5 being a strong likelihood of a 'sway', possible 'fix'). 


Maybe but how easy is it to throw a flag on any of those punt returns?
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RE: McNabb Needs to Lose 30 Lbs - 11/22/2008 12:57:04 AM   
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True, you CAN record games, but they have VERY stern warnings about reproduction and using the recording for any purpose. 

Good point on flags on the punt returns.  BUT, perhaps the officials had made SO many calls that had favored Minnesota and stopped what looked like a potential blowout win for the Saints, that they wanted to back off a bit so they wouldn't get busted.  Otherwise, in a game where the Vikes appeared to be getting help at EVERY turn, it might have been almost TOO noticeable that the Vikes were getting help at EVERY turn. 

Also, as I've stated in the past, IF there is a 'sway' going on, it is probably only ONE, maybe TWO officials involved.  Perhaps on the punt returns, the officials didn't have anything close enough to where they could throw the flag without people noticing they might be messing with the game, and maybe it would become too obvious, so they had to back off a little bit ?  Maybe some of it happened too quickly, the official(s)  didn't expect it, so they just let it happen, hoping Minnesota would still do enough to cover the spread, which the Vikes DID do.           

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RE: McNabb Needs to Lose 30 Lbs - 11/22/2008 7:05:58 AM   
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I wouldn't want McNabb here unless our coach was Singletary or someone like that.  McNabb still can throw the ball better than anyone we have on our roster or are likely to have on our roster next year.  He can't run any more but so what.

However, he tends to take a puXXy way out of confrontations many times instead of manning up.  He lost respect in Philly by talking about Owens behind his back while saying nothing to his face.  Now Owens would have knocked him out but people would have had respect for him.  mcNabb is ultra sensitive and still talks about being booed at the draft.  Dude, how many millions have you banked since then?  You guys can throw tomatoes at me for $8M/year!

As for the Eagles, McNabb was only part of the problem.  He catches the heat but the Eagles, back in their good days, got to 4 NFC CGs mostly on the strength of Jim Johnson's defense.  That defense fell apart just as much as McNabb in the big games.

The Rams put up 29 on that D in 2001.  The next year the Bucs put up 27 at the Vet in Philly.

A few years ago, before Culpepper blew out his knee, I did a study that really illustrated the effect of a good scoring defense in the playoffs.  McNabb has never won a playoff game where his defense gives up 20 points (0-4).  He is 7-1 when his defense holds the other team to less than 20 points.

McNabb would be a solid upgrade, but he is no Brady or Montana. 


Doesnt get talked about much, but McNabb's gotten flabby.  I watched a great baseball player in Ken Griffey decline like the stock market, because he didn't take care of himself in the off-season.

I think the whole OT thing has been blown out of proportion, but he doesn't strike me as a guy who works out particularly hard in the off-season.

Donovan needs to lose a good 30 lbs...........from what I can tell.


McNabb was NOT overrated.  Getting your team to 4 straight NFC CGs with some of the worst WRs on the planet shows how good he WAS.  People forget that he got them to the Super Bowl in 2004 WITHOUT OWENS.  He smoked us and ATL with Todd Pinkston and Freddie Mitchell starting.  How many QBs can do that?

Three problems happened with McNabb

1. He suffered a few injuries.  They slowed him down and made him a much more tentative player. 

2. To combat injuries, he decided to add weight on purpose to take hits better.  McNabb is NOT lazy in the offseason.  That is not true.  Just the opposite - he purposely worked out to ADD weight to get stronger.  The problem is that made him slower than Pat Williams.

3. Andy Reid's failure to build a team around him that could win. 

McNabb can be effective again - but he needs the proper surroundings.  Coming here to a running team would really help him.  But he needs a fiery coach who will bring out the competitive McNabb and not the sulking one currently in Philly.

To those who say that he is "done", I give you Kurt Warner.

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RE: RE:NFL News - 11/22/2008 7:33:29 AM   
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What a bum

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3718028

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RE: RE:NFL News - 11/22/2008 8:23:04 AM   
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Brett Favre
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Brett Lorenzo Favre (born on October 10, 1969, in Gulfport, Mississippi, US) is an American football player who was the starting quarterback for the Green Bay Packers of the National Football League (NFL) from 1992 to 2007. He is also a crying 15-year-old girl, drug user, and a dick.
 
Since Johnny Unitas, he is the only NFL player to have won the league MVP 3 times. He is also the only player to have pretend-retired from professional sports 37 times.

While many people believe that crying does not belong in sports, Favre does not belong to this camp. He will readily cry at the end of every game. In this respect, Favre is like a 15-year-old girl who just got her braces off and ends every night sobbing over jewelry.

Favre is also the only remaining NFL player who was also very good in Tecmo Super Bowl II.






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Fa"vre"
Favre began his life as a dick when he was born and given the surname Favre, a name so obnoxious that it can only be pronounced by saying the letters in an order other than the one in which they are written. Favre is part French and part Native American, making his middle name, Lorenzo, completely inappropriate, particularly for a blonde guy who spent most of his adult life in braces.

One theory behind the strange pronunciation of his family name is that the Favre family has simply been mispronouncing it themselves for so long that it just stuck, which is so sad it nearly makes you want to cry. But you won't, because you are not Brett Favre at the end of a football game.

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College Football
Favre began his elite football career in college at Southern Mississippi, an institution of higher learning intended mainly for students who didn't get accepted by all the other colleges no one has ever heard of. This was the case with Favre, who received no other scholarships. Other well-known dick alumni include Chuck Scarborough and Trishelle from The Real World. In Favre's first game, he was pulled off the bench to lead his team to victory, despite having a terrible hangover. Favre was a burgeoning binge drinker at this time, most likely because a painkiller habit is simply too expensive for the average college student.

Favre still holds many school records, a true triumph considering no one of note has played there in the 50 years since he graduated.

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Professional football
Favre made a much-heralded debut in the NFL when he was drafted in the second round by the Atlanta Falcons, whose coach at the time announced there would have to be a plane crash that killed most of the other team members before Favre would ever play.

Favre was then traded to the Green Bay Packers, where his career continued promisingly, despite Troy Aikman's annually making him his bitch. To deal with the Cowboy bitch situation (or “bitchuation”) and the injuries that accompanied it, Favre developed a pain killer addiction. The habit was widely publicized, though Favre was commended for "voluntarily" entering rehab after being threatened with an almost one million dollar fine.

Favre went on to have a long, remarkable, record-breaking career, becoming an idol to the city of Green Bay, though one should always take with a grain of salt the object of worship of a group of citizens who feel no shame about wearing dairy products on their heads.

During much of this period, Favre was not a dick, but was instead the likable quarterback of a perennially average to slightly above-average football team that played a lot of games in the snow. That all ended when he started to forget that he was actually a football player, and not an owner of an organization where he was better than everyone else because he had a ring, some records, and a steakhouse and banquet facility with his name on it.

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"Retirement"
Like many dicks, Favre began his true descent in dickhood in the later years of his career. Most notably, Favre played his "last game at Lambeau" several times, subjecting fans to endless “retrospective" montages in quantities that have yet to be matched. In light of these multiple, unsatisfying endings, Favre can be compared to the Lord of the Rings: Return of the King.

Finally, Favre officially retired in March of 2008, another milestone event marked by an embarrassing display of sobbing. His stated reason for retiring was simply "not wanting to play anymore."

One month later, Favre decided he wanted to cry more play more. Giving legions of dairy-headed Green Bay fans the respect they so richly deserved, Favre volunteered to play for any other team in the NFL, included some of the Packers' most hated division rivals. This was how Favre chose to reveal that, for the previous 15 years, Wisconsin fans had not actually been cheering on their gridiron hero, but had merely been feeding an insatiable ego that would gladly sell everyone out just to compensate for severe dick envy.

Not wanting their star player to become the quarterback of a rival team, the Packers did not release him from his contract. Although Favre has demonstrated no real understanding of the word "retirement," the Packers have a relatively strong grasp on the definition of "legally binding contract."

Interested in developing a quarterback who is less talented, but not about to turn 75 years old, the Packers offered to have Brett Favre join them on the bench. But the bench is for losers, not professional dicks, and so Favre began secretly meeting with the Minnesota Vikings.

While Favre is, no doubt, a future legend and Hall of Famer, his current status is that of a long-graduated former big man on campus who still lives in his college town and spends time hanging around offering to buy people beer and trying to get the freshmen girls to drink more jungle juice.

During the unretirement process, Favre expressed interest in playing for a Super Bowl contender in the 2008-2009 season. Fittingly, he was traded to the New York Jets, a team that recently went 4-12 and was more likely to win a Stanley Cup pretending to be the now defunct Winnipeg Jets than to play in the Super Bowl.

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Trivia
    November 29, 2004 was declared Brett Favre Day by the governor of Wisconsin. On this day Vicodin was available at half-price and everyone was allowed to ignore the contributions of other talented people in their workplace.

    Favre holds the NFL record for most consecutive starts by a quarterback who would go on to choke in the conference championship.


    While there is no direct evidence proving it, circumstantial evidence indicates that Favre regularly has gross, old person make-out sessions with this man.

    Favre had a bit part playing a dick himself, in the Farrelly brothers' film There's Something about Mary. Appropriately, the film is memorable only for the appearance of both Brett Favre and some semen.

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RE: RE:NFL News - 11/22/2008 9:52:07 AM   
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Phil Savage Apologizes for Email Profanity
Fri Nov 21, 2008

The Cleveland Plain Dealer reports Browns GM Phil Savage apologized to a fan for using a profane word in an e-mail response. "True, it happened," Savage wrote in an e-mail to The Plain Dealer. "We have both apologized to each other since. The Browns' fans have overwhelmingly been positive towards me since 2005, and I appreciate that greatly." The exchange came during the Browns' 29-27 win against the Buffalo Bills on Monday night. The fan, who appeared on WKNR AM/850 and was identified only as Brett, told host Tony Rizzo that he sent Savage an e-mail at 11:37 p.m. while the Browns were ahead in the game. He called Savage "the worst GM in the NFL" and questioned why the Browns don't use RB Jerome Harrison more, among other things. Savage responded at 12:17 a.m., 23 minutes after the game ended. His e-mail reply: "Go root for Buffalo -- f---you." Browns spokesman Bill Bonsiewicz said owner Randy Lerner considered the matter to be over. NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell has held team executives and employees accountable for violations of the league personal conduct policy. But league spokesman Greg Aiello indicated there is no need for action against Savage. "They have apologized to each other and put the matter behind them," Aiello responded in an e-mail. "I'm highly embarrassed by it," the Browns fan said to Rizzo.




"Go root for Buffalo -- f---you."
 
That's some funny shit there.
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RE: RE:NFL News - 11/22/2008 11:45:27 AM   
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Okay - that Dickipedia entry is hilarious.   

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RE: RE:NFL News - 11/22/2008 12:57:39 PM   
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Okay - that Dickipedia entry is hilarious.   


http://www.dickipedia.org/dick.php?title=Brett_Favre

this guy should be a vikings fan, by honorary mass aclaim....

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RE: RE:NFL News - 11/23/2008 2:52:49 PM   
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Matt Cassel making me look stupid for sure.

What a game

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RE: RE:NFL News - 11/23/2008 4:47:38 PM   
Duane Sampson


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And Brady Quinn is making me look smart 
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RE: RE:NFL News - 11/23/2008 5:13:10 PM   
Duane Sampson


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    Erik Ainge Did Not Take StarCaps
    Sun Nov 23, 2008

    ESPN's Chris Mortensen reports New York Jets rookie QB Erik Ainge, who tested positive for a banned diuretic, did not take StarCaps. He took a diuretic he obtained from his girlfriend.



    Dump the bitch...
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