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Vick made $5.25 million in 2010 but would make an estimated $20 million -- the average salary for the five highest-paid quarterbacks in the league -- if he is designated the Eagles' franchise player.

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ORIGINAL: Todd Mallett

The flow of bullshit from one poster on this topic is so bad I'm not convinced it comes from a rational or sane place.

Real racism is a problem and to equate it with the distaste for murder/pedophilia/psychopathic behavior is reprehensible.

I mean really, could you pick a worse group of guys to call people out on?

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And Lynn, I know your gonna jump on me for "toadying" to jc, so save that little personal perspective for yourself and we'll just pretend we both understand the truth of that.

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ORIGINAL: Lynn G.

You know Todd, it's only because Michael Vick is black that we consider torturing dogs a cruel and inhumane pasttime. If he was white we would all invite him over for dinner.

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Dogs kill people, people kill dogs.

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ORIGINAL: Danimal

christ what a discussion...

relative perspective would go a long way.

JC has no sympathy for animals over the human being.

stipulated?

humans beings and their potential and ability to have "successful" lives and contribute "anything" useful to our society is one of his criteria.

mallet and others, love dogs/animals, whatever.

Everyone will judge a person's actions on their own perspective of expectations and morality.

Does it ever occur to you that you will never see this issue the same way?

I despise pit-bulls.

They were bred with one purpose, created by manipulation of genetic bloodlines by mankind for one primary reason.

They were bred to kill.

Not all of them kill, but other than animal companionship, is the risk of the genetic trait of aggressive and potentially fatal or maiming behavior, worth the risk of that/those traits being in a "companion animal's" gene pool.

I don't think so.

Humans glorify violence and our entire history and culture is filled with atrocities that make the species a disgrace to whatever you believe in.

Be it a higher power, a "higher calling", a  superior moral status based on intelligence or ability to rationalize the physical universe.. what ever.

I neither condone Vick's actions nor deny his right to remake himself within a socially acceptable framework.

yes, people have a right to their opinions.

Dogs kill people, people kill dogs.

There is no "glory" or honor in either.

It is animal-ism, which is in everyone.

You can claim to be above it, for what ever reason, but if you watch football, MMA, Boxing, NAscar, anything competitive where "victory" is glorified, you have no corner on the "morality market."

Even this topic of discussion is a competition to obtain a position of "innate" personal superiority.

I find it amusing.

good for you.

don't bother answering me, Mallett.

And Lynn, I know your gonna jump on me for "toadying" to jc, so save that little personal perspective for yourself and we'll just pretend we both understand the truth of that.

At least I'll understand my perspective.

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"would you exterminate off the planet" the sick and twisted behavior that teaches a child that an animal is a coloring book and that it may be used in any manner that pleases it's sensibilities or does not offend the "adults" around them?

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ORIGINAL: John Childress

We have countless people hungry and homeless in this country right now.

Can't worry about someone who killed dogs years ago

whine whine

cry cry

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you choose to cherry pick one sentence out of a post that has little to do with dogs and people killing each other and vise versa, so what is your point?

you despise Vick?

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you obviously favor the extermination of dogs, when they violate your standards...

and you seem to be implying that "people" not just specifically Vick, should be held to the same standards regardless of "social" standing.

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I get that dogs aren't people, I think some people wanting him out of the NFL or even executed (think that was Tucker) are loonies.

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ORIGINAL: Prescott

I reserve my right to be truly disgusted with any human that would get sick twisted fun our of torturing animals to death, without being labelled a racist.

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ORIGINAL: Todd Mallett

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I get that dogs aren't people, I think some people wanting him out of the NFL or even executed (think that was Tucker) are loonies.

Do you just think people that want him executed are loonies or both those who would want him out of the NFL or executed?