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and it should be pointed out that they won because Calvin Johnson just lost the hold of the ball at the end.

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ORIGINAL: Lynn G.

Another example: What about the play where someone reaches across the line and touches the ball down in the endzone? Touchdown, even though the ball touches the ground before any other part of his body does on that side of the line.

I would be so livid if that call happened to the Vikings that I'd be firing letters off to everyone even remotely connected to the NFL.

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ORIGINAL: Lynn G.

Another example: What about the play where someone reaches across the line and touches the ball down in the endzone? Touchdown, even though the ball touches the ground before any other part of his body does on that side of the line.

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ORIGINAL: Lynn G.

Another example: What about the play where someone reaches across the line and touches the ball down in the endzone? Touchdown, even though the ball touches the ground before any other part of his body does on that side of the line.

I would be so livid if that call happened to the Vikings that I'd be firing letters off to everyone even remotely connected to the NFL.

I'm not following. Of course that's a touchdown.

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ORIGINAL: Lynn G.

Another example: What about the play where someone reaches across the line and touches the ball down in the endzone? Touchdown, even though the ball touches the ground before any other part of his body does on that side of the line.

The difference is in the Calvin Johnson play, the question was "did he ever fully have possession?" In your example, possession is already assumed and everything you describe comes after that fact.

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Let's look at it this way. If Johnson's catch had occurred at the one, and if while swinging his arm to the ground he would have broken the plane of the goal line, the proper call under the "second act" exception would have been touchdown.

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In a story you might have missed, the NFL announced on Wednesday that Washington Redskins cornerback DeAngelo Hall was named the NFC's Offensive Player of the Week for Week Seven of NFL action.

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ORIGINAL: marty

I expected a slow start for the Bears, and they are actually doing BETTER than I thought they would.

I thought Cutler would take awhile to get used to Martz's system, wondered if they had good enough WRs, and thought Tice wouldn't get their OL to get until about midseason. I thought from about game 9 on, the Bears would be a tough team, and it was unfortunate the Vikes didn't play them early on.

I still had the Bears in 3rd place, but probably underestimated them. They still have the best coach in the division, although I thought Shanahan and Carroll outcoached him, but I think they are also very good coaches. I don't think much of McCarthy or Childress as HCs.

The Bears have NOT allowed over 23 points all season. Watching enough of their games the last few weeks, I now am starting to wonder if their OL will ever gel, if Cutler will improve, and if they'll commit to the run.

Looking at the Bears schedule, I didn't realize it was so brutal to close the season. I think this team is VERY unlikely to win the division. It's there for the Vikes or Packers to take. The Vikes win this week and they are right back in it. Lose, and I STILL think they have a chance.

It's either Vikes or Packers winning the division, and I think the Vikes are the better team. I'm not a big homer, I many times pick AGAINST the Vikes. The Packers just got lucky Harvin didn't get his feet down in bounds, or the game and momentum for the season would have went right to the Vikings. Hopefully, the win does NOT give the Pack a bunch of momentum where they now go on a nice run.

The Vikes are the BEST team in the division at running the ball, and I now think if they get the ball rolling, they CAN win the division. I wouldn't count the Bears out, they'll be hard to catch, but I think the Vikes can do it, just a long road ahead.

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I expected a slow start for the Bears, and they are actually doing BETTER than I thought they would.

I thought Cutler would take awhile to get used to Martz's system, wondered if they had good enough WRs, and thought Tice wouldn't get their OL to get until about midseason. I thought from about game 9 on, the Bears would be a tough team, and it was unfortunate the Vikes didn't play them early on.

I still had the Bears in 3rd place, but probably underestimated them. They still have the best coach in the division, although I thought Shanahan and Carroll outcoached him, but I think they are also very good coaches. I don't think much of McCarthy or Childress as HCs.

The Bears have NOT allowed over 23 points all season. Watching enough of their games the last few weeks, I now am starting to wonder if their OL will ever gel, if Cutler will improve, and if they'll commit to the run.

Looking at the Bears schedule, I didn't realize it was so brutal to close the season. I think this team is VERY unlikely to win the division. It's there for the Vikes or Packers to take. The Vikes win this week and they are right back in it. Lose, and I STILL think they have a chance.

It's either Vikes or Packers winning the division, and I think the Vikes are the better team. I'm not a big homer, I many times pick AGAINST the Vikes. The Packers just got lucky Harvin didn't get his feet down in bounds, or the game and momentum for the season would have went right to the Vikings. Hopefully, the win does NOT give the Pack a bunch of momentum where they now go on a nice run.

The Vikes are the BEST team in the division at running the ball, and I now think if they get the ball rolling, they CAN win the division. I wouldn't count the Bears out, they'll be hard to catch, but I think the Vikes can do it, just a long road ahead.

Martz offense will be useless in December and January in Chicago. Probably half of November likely game temps in the 30s and windy