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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 1/1/2015 11:45:55 PM

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The NCG is going to be pretty damn good.

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 1/1/2015 11:46:05 PM

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Big 10 did pretty well today.

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 1/1/2015 11:46:41 PM

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Well it's a good thing there's a playoff because if it went with last year's formula the two winning teams would have been playing somewhere else while the two losing teams would have been in the NC.

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 1/1/2015 11:47:51 PM

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Surprised at the result, but goes to show there is no dominant conference, just teams dominant in their own.

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 1/1/2015 11:49:46 PM

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Congrats to the Oregon guys. I'm definitely on the bandwagon

Thanks bo....

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 1/1/2015 11:50:33 PM

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Well the SEC bias has been fully exposed for all to see. Amazing what happens when you have to earn it on the field. Let's see all the pundits duck and cover now.

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 1/1/2015 11:51:29 PM

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bump!

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 1/1/2015 11:57:42 PM

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Ole Miss, Miss St, Auburn, Alabama and LSU all lost their bowls.
Has that ever happened?

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 1/1/2015 11:59:52 PM

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Ole Miss, Miss St, Auburn, Alabama and LSU all lost their bowls.
Has that ever happened?

Just think if it wasn't for the teams that joined in from the Big 12...

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 1/2/2015 6:34:12 AM

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FSU exposed. Could not recover from back to back fumbles by the freshman

SEC exposed completely

2-7 in bowl games and no team in the national title

So much for the SEC being head and shoulders better than other conferences

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 1/2/2015 8:04:30 AM

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Cardale Jones may be a "3rd string" QB, but he is better than 99% of other QBs

He is probably the best pro prospect of all our QBs. Can throw is 70 yards easy. 6' 5" with a howitzer

I've always respected the SEC, but clearly they have lost a hold on their dominance.

I think they are really hurt by bad QB play. There is not one good QB in that league right now.

Will be an interesting NCG. I don't think Oregon can stop our running game. Elliot and Jones will likely truck Oregon.

But, we will probably not be able to stop their passing attack.

Should be a fun game.

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 1/2/2015 9:05:19 AM

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I think it's a bit like baseball/moneyball. Moneyball isn't dead in baseball. It's more alive than ever. It's just that teams with more money started copying Billy Beane and the approach and, not shockingly, had success with it.

Similarly, and I think you've alluded to this in the past, Andy: Ohio State looked like a freaking SEC team yesterday. SEC recruits, and Urban Meyer coaching, who along with Saban, is head and shoulders above anybody else in the college coaching ranks right now. Hell, Urban Meyer has stated his ENTIRE goal in building the OSU program was to beat "the gold standard Alabama". He's accomplished it, quickly.

Agree on this year's QB play, Andy. Sims and Kiffin sure did Alabama in. They should have relied more heavily on Henry, who may be the best back in the country, when they actually give him the ball.

Very impressive win by OSU, and I think they have an outstanding chance vs. Oregon now. But I'm not sure if any of these games are played out 100 times that this result happens even 25-30 times. But hey, you have to give credit; that's why they play the games.

Still, don't kid yourself; all these SEC teams will be back among the top next year, and (except maybe OSU/TCU), will likely win the championship in 2016.

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 1/2/2015 9:16:35 AM

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Thought's on the Bowl Season:

gonna be a great NC game...

what an enjoyable bowl season...maybe more so for me , because how the $EC was shown up

I didn't get to see the second half of Minnesota, but the fake punt seemed to change the whole feel of that game...
I was thinking, "what is with that punt formation all spread out...?"
Then bam! first down...if there was anything actually riding on that game they wouldn't have run that, right?
But I loved how they came out fighting and showed that a middle B1G school can compete with the $EC East Champ...

I enjoyed that Nebraska, despite the craziness surrounding the firing of Bo, injuries, etc, put in a respectable effort (unlike FSU, Ole Miss...)

I loved the MSU comeback...

I hate the Badgers, but loved that they put it to Auburn.

I love the relentless beatdown on FSU...they showed exactly why "undefeated" shouldn't be the automatic "in"
Nobody thought FSU was really a top 5 team (though they are certainly explosive and looked like they could score at any moment...just not a complete team in any way).
TCU really would have been fun to see in the playoff...I think some of the committee wanted to do that, "but you can't exclude the undefeated previous Nat'l Champ..."
I think too many issues with TCU's loss to Baylor and no Big 12 CG were too big to overcome, too...

So, really, the committee got it right and it was a great first playoff and great bowl season!

Goof stuff!

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 1/2/2015 9:24:46 AM

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I think it's a bit like baseball/moneyball. Moneyball isn't dead in baseball. It's more alive than ever. It's just that teams with more money started copying Billy Beane and the approach and, not shockingly, had success with it.

Similarly, and I think you've alluded to this in the past, Andy: Ohio State looked like a freaking SEC team yesterday. SEC recruits, and Urban Meyer coaching, who along with Saban, is head and shoulders above anybody else in the college coaching ranks right now. Hell, Urban Meyer has stated his ENTIRE goal in building the OSU program was to beat "the gold standard Alabama". He's accomplished it, quickly.

Agree on this year's QB play, Andy. Sims and Kiffin sure did Alabama in. They should have relied more heavily on Henry, who may be the best back in the country, when they actually give him the ball.

Very impressive win by OSU, and I think they have an outstanding chance vs. Oregon now. But I'm not sure if any of these games are played out 100 times that this result happens even 25-30 times. But hey, you have to give credit; that's why they play the games.

Still, don't kid yourself; all these SEC teams will be back among the top next year, and (except maybe OSU/TCU), will likely win the championship in 2016.

For the SEC to win the championship they better get a lot better on the defensive side of the ball. Not very good QB's in that conference right now either.

I think its possible that they win the championship next year but not very likely unless the defenses improve a ton.

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 1/2/2015 9:38:38 AM

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Cardale Jones may be a "3rd string" QB, but he is better than 99% of other QBs

He is probably the best pro prospect of all our QBs. Can throw is 70 yards easy. 6' 5" with a howitzer

I've always respected the SEC, but clearly they have lost a hold on their dominance.

I think they are really hurt by bad QB play. There is not one good QB in that league right now.

Will be an interesting NCG. I don't think Oregon can stop our running game. Elliot and Jones will likely truck Oregon.

But, we will probably not be able to stop their passing attack.

Should be a fun game.

I think Oregon's pace is what kills teams.
You can watch film. Game plan and practice for it. Try to simulate it.
But until you're facing it for real, you have no idea what you're in for.
Which is why teams that have tried to grind it out against the Oregon D get a false sense of security at times.
You think you're accomplishing something until you get back out on D and 2 minutes later you're defending your red zone again.

Conventional wisdom says keep a good offense off the field.
But Oregon's offense does it for you.
They try to tire out not only their opponents defense, but their offense as well.

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 1/2/2015 9:42:05 AM

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I think it's a bit like baseball/moneyball. Moneyball isn't dead in baseball. It's more alive than ever. It's just that teams with more money started copying Billy Beane and the approach and, not shockingly, had success with it.

Similarly, and I think you've alluded to this in the past, Andy: Ohio State looked like a freaking SEC team yesterday. SEC recruits, and Urban Meyer coaching, who along with Saban, is head and shoulders above anybody else in the college coaching ranks right now. Hell, Urban Meyer has stated his ENTIRE goal in building the OSU program was to beat "the gold standard Alabama". He's accomplished it, quickly.

Agree on this year's QB play, Andy. Sims and Kiffin sure did Alabama in. They should have relied more heavily on Henry, who may be the best back in the country, when they actually give him the ball.

Very impressive win by OSU, and I think they have an outstanding chance vs. Oregon now. But I'm not sure if any of these games are played out 100 times that this result happens even 25-30 times. But hey, you have to give credit; that's why they play the games.

Still, don't kid yourself; all these SEC teams will be back among the top next year, and (except maybe OSU/TCU), will likely win the championship in 2016.

You are certainly in the minority Dustin.
I'm an old school guy and like defense and a running game as much as anyone.
But the game is changing ... as it always has ... and it won't be long before the SEC either has to adapt or become a dinosaur.

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 1/2/2015 9:43:48 AM

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FSU exposed. Could not recover from back to back fumbles by the freshman

SEC exposed completely

2-7 in bowl games and no team in the national title

So much for the SEC being head and shoulders better than other conferences

SEC West was 2-5 in bowls.
I think the East won as many games too.

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 1/2/2015 9:55:24 AM

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Big 10 did pretty well today.

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 1/2/2015 9:58:15 AM

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I think it's a bit like baseball/moneyball. Moneyball isn't dead in baseball. It's more alive than ever. It's just that teams with more money started copying Billy Beane and the approach and, not shockingly, had success with it.

Similarly, and I think you've alluded to this in the past, Andy: Ohio State looked like a freaking SEC team yesterday. SEC recruits, and Urban Meyer coaching, who along with Saban, is head and shoulders above anybody else in the college coaching ranks right now. Hell, Urban Meyer has stated his ENTIRE goal in building the OSU program was to beat "the gold standard Alabama". He's accomplished it, quickly.

Agree on this year's QB play, Andy. Sims and Kiffin sure did Alabama in. They should have relied more heavily on Henry, who may be the best back in the country, when they actually give him the ball.

Very impressive win by OSU, and I think they have an outstanding chance vs. Oregon now. But I'm not sure if any of these games are played out 100 times that this result happens even 25-30 times. But hey, you have to give credit; that's why they play the games.

Still, don't kid yourself; all these SEC teams will be back among the top next year, and (except maybe OSU/TCU), will likely win the championship in 2016.

You are certainly in the minority Dustin.
I'm an old school guy and like defense and a running game as much as anyone.
But the game is changing ... as it always has ... and it won't be long before the SEC either has to adapt or become a dinosaur.

Agree with your premise Art, but I haven't seen much defense out of the SEC this year. The scores have been higher than ever.

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 1/2/2015 10:02:54 AM

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Big 10 did pretty well today.

The exception was the one I wanted most.

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 1/2/2015 10:06:26 AM

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Anybody who watched Wisconsin and Ohio State play had to come away knowing Ohio State can play with anyone.
Oregon is a completely different challenge than Alabama is and in my opinion a tougher one for Ohio State. Ohio State is not a great defensive team and I believe Oregon's pace and style will give them the edge. I expect another high scoring and competitive game.

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 1/2/2015 10:11:21 AM

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I loved Meyer's response at the podium when he found out how badly Oregon laid the boot to FSU.

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 1/2/2015 10:19:31 AM

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Did I enjoy that!

As a Buckeye fan, what a great win. The defense was getting gashed at times and I was happy to see Henry out of the game for long stretches, but they made some plays, the pick 6, another one by the goal line and a couple of sacks. Lee was great, Bosa did alot of the dirty work eventhough it wasn't a rewarding game for him stats wise. Bama have been inconsistent on offense all season, and OSU did a great job of containing Cooper.

The run game was really impressive, Elliot really runs with power he's like a mix of Boom Herron and Carlos Hyde. Jones was great, he had some close calls but his ability to convert 3rd downs really broke Bama's spirit and their ability to run away with the game in the 1st half. All the WRs made a big play at some point.

Meyer with another great game plan. The only issue I had was, why were they snapping the ball with 15 secs left on the play clock up 7 with under 4 mins, granted one of those plays was Elliot's 85 yd run, but those seconds almost came back to haunt them. Not to mention the deep pass on 1st down but I do understand his rationale. I will say that Cyrus Jones is a player for Bama.

I will also add, if not for Bama's punter this might have been a 3 score game, he was exceptional.

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 1/2/2015 12:16:54 PM

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The only issue I had was, why were they snapping the ball with 15 secs left on the play clock up 7 with under 4 mins

Our high school team was doing that this year; I came unglued. It can't get much more elem than that can it?

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 1/2/2015 1:29:46 PM

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ORIGINAL: Art

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ORIGINAL: djskillz

I think it's a bit like baseball/moneyball. Moneyball isn't dead in baseball. It's more alive than ever. It's just that teams with more money started copying Billy Beane and the approach and, not shockingly, had success with it.

Similarly, and I think you've alluded to this in the past, Andy: Ohio State looked like a freaking SEC team yesterday. SEC recruits, and Urban Meyer coaching, who along with Saban, is head and shoulders above anybody else in the college coaching ranks right now. Hell, Urban Meyer has stated his ENTIRE goal in building the OSU program was to beat "the gold standard Alabama". He's accomplished it, quickly.

Agree on this year's QB play, Andy. Sims and Kiffin sure did Alabama in. They should have relied more heavily on Henry, who may be the best back in the country, when they actually give him the ball.

Very impressive win by OSU, and I think they have an outstanding chance vs. Oregon now. But I'm not sure if any of these games are played out 100 times that this result happens even 25-30 times. But hey, you have to give credit; that's why they play the games.

Still, don't kid yourself; all these SEC teams will be back among the top next year, and (except maybe OSU/TCU), will likely win the championship in 2016.

You are certainly in the minority Dustin.
I'm an old school guy and like defense and a running game as much as anyone.
But the game is changing ... as it always has ... and it won't be long before the SEC either has to adapt or become a dinosaur.

Agree with your premise Art, but I haven't seen much defense out of the SEC this year. The scores have been higher than ever.

I don't watch a ton of SEC, but the yards aren't always indicative of the defense played.
I've learned that from watching a lot of Oregon football over the years.
For instance yesterday vs. FSU ... Oregon basically gave them between the hashes and between the 20's as a game plan.
No outs and nothing deep. They were OK giving up the middle and trying to create turnovers.
500+ yards, but 20 points.
Some heads today are saying FSU made their own errors, and they did, but the first two turnovers were conscious efforts to strip the ball. Oregon saw things on film and wanted to take advantage of them.

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