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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

The committee just couldn't get out of their own way and put Alabama in the CFP. Everyone saw it coming after last night but what an absolute sham.

Every Florida State player who is going pro after this year won't play in their Bowl game. Why would they?

What a joke to keep them out of it.

I'd love to see Georgia and Fl. State players not sit out then watch Georgia kill them.

In the era of Name Image and Likeness (NIL), bowl games have become unwatchable. The kids at high-profile schools have already had a taste of big money, and they aren't going to jeopardize their future on a money grab for the school.

Shedeur Sanders's NIL value currently sits at $4.8-million.
Arch Manning doesn't even start at Texas and his is worth $2.8-million.

I say adopt a 3 tier system.

1. Power 5 conferences

2. Every other FBS team. Have a 16-24 team playoff like the FCS has.

3. FCS

So Oklahoma and Texas are joining the SEC? That's crazy.

Two tiers:
1. SEC
2. Others

The top conference in college football this season was the Pac 12. The top four programs are all going to the Big Ten.

SEC still better.

Washington and Oregon obviously very good. But Alabama, Georgia, Miss. State could beat them at a neutral site.

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

The committee just couldn't get out of their own way and put Alabama in the CFP. Everyone saw it coming after last night but what an absolute sham.

Every Florida State player who is going pro after this year won't play in their Bowl game. Why would they?

What a joke to keep them out of it.

I'd love to see Georgia and Fl. State players not sit out then watch Georgia kill them.

In the era of Name Image and Likeness (NIL), bowl games have become unwatchable. The kids at high-profile schools have already had a taste of big money, and they aren't going to jeopardize their future on a money grab for the school.

Shedeur Sanders's NIL value currently sits at $4.8-million.
Arch Manning doesn't even start at Texas and his is worth $2.8-million.

I say adopt a 3 tier system.

1. Power 5 conferences

2. Every other FBS team. Have a 16-24 team playoff like the FCS has.

3. FCS

So Oklahoma and Texas are joining the SEC? That's crazy.

Two tiers:
1. SEC
2. Others

The top conference in college football this season was the Pac 12. The top four programs are all going to the Big Ten.

SEC still better.

Washington and Oregon obviously very good. But Alabama, Georgia, Miss. State could beat them at a neutral site.

The SEC was way down this season. It's still a great conference, but the star-power wasn't there in 2023.

Outside of Jayden Daniels, the quarterbacks were awful. The Pac 12 could have three quarterbacks drafted in the top-10 of the draft.

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

The committee just couldn't get out of their own way and put Alabama in the CFP. Everyone saw it coming after last night but what an absolute sham.

Every Florida State player who is going pro after this year won't play in their Bowl game. Why would they?

What a joke to keep them out of it.

I'd love to see Georgia and Fl. State players not sit out then watch Georgia kill them.

In the era of Name Image and Likeness (NIL), bowl games have become unwatchable. The kids at high-profile schools have already had a taste of big money, and they aren't going to jeopardize their future on a money grab for the school.

Shedeur Sanders's NIL value currently sits at $4.8-million.
Arch Manning doesn't even start at Texas and his is worth $2.8-million.

I say adopt a 3 tier system.

1. Power 5 conferences

2. Every other FBS team. Have a 16-24 team playoff like the FCS has.

3. FCS

So Oklahoma and Texas are joining the SEC? That's crazy.

Two tiers:
1. SEC
2. Others

The top conference in college football this season was the Pac 12. The top four programs are all going to the Big Ten.

SEC still better.

Washington and Oregon obviously very good. But Alabama, Georgia, Miss. State could beat them at a neutral site.

The SEC was way down this season. It's still a great conference, but the star-power wasn't there in 2023.

Outside of Jayden Daniels, the quarterbacks were awful. The Pac 12 could have three quarterbacks drafted in the top-10 of the draft.

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

The committee just couldn't get out of their own way and put Alabama in the CFP. Everyone saw it coming after last night but what an absolute sham.

Every Florida State player who is going pro after this year won't play in their Bowl game. Why would they?

What a joke to keep them out of it.

I'd love to see Georgia and Fl. State players not sit out then watch Georgia kill them.

In the era of Name Image and Likeness (NIL), bowl games have become unwatchable. The kids at high-profile schools have already had a taste of big money, and they aren't going to jeopardize their future on a money grab for the school.

Shedeur Sanders's NIL value currently sits at $4.8-million.
Arch Manning doesn't even start at Texas and his is worth $2.8-million.

I say adopt a 3 tier system.

1. Power 5 conferences

2. Every other FBS team. Have a 16-24 team playoff like the FCS has.

3. FCS

So Oklahoma and Texas are joining the SEC? That's crazy.

Two tiers:
1. SEC
2. Others

The top conference in college football this season was the Pac 12. The top four programs are all going to the Big Ten.

SEC still better.

Washington and Oregon obviously very good. But Alabama, Georgia, Miss. State could beat them at a neutral site.

The SEC was way down this season. It's still a great conference, but the star-power wasn't there in 2023.

Outside of Jayden Daniels, the quarterbacks were awful. The Pac 12 could have three quarterbacks drafted in the top-10 of the draft.

Pac12 definitely has the best QBs. Most defenses were below average.

It's nice to see a Championship game without the SEC in it. Next year will be better with the expanded playoffs.

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Vandy played this quote from Nick Saban after the upset over Alabama:

“The only place that’s not hard to play in the SEC is Vanderbilt.”

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

OK. So I don't pay much attention to college football but I didn't realize that Oregon Ducks beat Ohio State and a controversial play was involved.


https://www.yahoo.com/sports/ncaa-mulling-in-season-action-after-oregons-controversial-late-game-situational-move-helped-ducks-beat-ohio-state-154542363.html

So after a timeout the defense put 12 men on the field intentionally...and in college football they don't put the time back on the clock...so the Ducks intentionally got a penalty that ate time off the clock and kept THE Ohio state from getting into FG range for the game winning kick...

Two things here. In the NFL they put the time back on the clock so this wouldn't work in the NFL. 2. If this had happened to say Kansas State, Nebraska, Illinois, Minnesota, or NDSU or any number of NOT OHIO STATE Schools...the NCAA would've have just chalked it up as a quirk in the rules and maybe looked at it in the offseason to correct it. But since THE Ohio State was negatively impacted here....We need to look into it NOW.

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

OK. So I don't pay much attention to college football but I didn't realize that Oregon Ducks beat Ohio State and a controversial play was involved.


https://www.yahoo.com/sports/ncaa-mulling-in-season-action-after-oregons-controversial-late-game-situational-move-helped-ducks-beat-ohio-state-154542363.html

So after a timeout the defense put 12 men on the field intentionally...and in college football they don't put the time back on the clock...so the Ducks intentionally got a penalty that ate time off the clock and kept THE Ohio state from getting into FG range for the game winning kick...

Two things here. In the NFL they put the time back on the clock so this wouldn't work in the NFL. 2. If this had happened to say Kansas State, Nebraska, Illinois, Minnesota, or NDSU or any number of NOT OHIO STATE Schools...the NCAA would've have just chalked it up as a quirk in the rules and maybe looked at it in the offseason to correct it. But since THE Ohio State was negatively impacted here....We need to look into it NOW.

And replay the last part of the game?

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

OK. So I don't pay much attention to college football but I didn't realize that Oregon Ducks beat Ohio State and a controversial play was involved.


https://www.yahoo.com/sports/ncaa-mulling-in-season-action-after-oregons-controversial-late-game-situational-move-helped-ducks-beat-ohio-state-154542363.html

So after a timeout the defense put 12 men on the field intentionally...and in college football they don't put the time back on the clock...so the Ducks intentionally got a penalty that ate time off the clock and kept THE Ohio state from getting into FG range for the game winning kick...

Two things here. In the NFL they put the time back on the clock so this wouldn't work in the NFL. 2. If this had happened to say Kansas State, Nebraska, Illinois, Minnesota, or NDSU or any number of NOT OHIO STATE Schools...the NCAA would've have just chalked it up as a quirk in the rules and maybe looked at it in the offseason to correct it. But since THE Ohio State was negatively impacted here....We need to look into it NOW.

And replay the last part of the game?

If they do that, the NCAA should just stop playing actual Football games and just have Ohio State and Alabama play for the national title every stinking January.

They should fix the rule, but they should table any discussion about it until after the season. They Ducks used the rule to their advantage. The Rule is the rule at this time. They shouldn't change it until after the season, they shouldn't replay anything as no rule was actually broken.

If Ohio State were all that great they wouldn't have needed the 6 seconds they lost for a last minute to win it FG. Ducks beat them. They LOST. No rule was broken. They can wallow in misery for all time.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

There is nothing wrong with immediately instituting a rule or a change in order to stop an asinine loophole.

What is wrong is to wait.

Edit: They changed it already. Bravo. Great rationale by the way!

In a release Wednesday, the NCAA issued a new rules interpretation on how to handle a penalty for 12 players on the field in the final two minutes of either half. If the defense has 12 players actively participate in the down, the offense can choose, along with the 5-yard penalty, to have the game clock reset to the time that had been displayed at the snap.

"Football is a very dynamic game," Shaw said. "Occasionally there are specific situations where committing a penalty can give a team an advantage. A guiding principle of the NCAA Football Rules Committee is that there should be no benefit when a team commits a penalty."

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

OK. So I don't pay much attention to college football but I didn't realize that Oregon Ducks beat Ohio State and a controversial play was involved.


https://www.yahoo.com/sports/ncaa-mulling-in-season-action-after-oregons-controversial-late-game-situational-move-helped-ducks-beat-ohio-state-154542363.html

So after a timeout the defense put 12 men on the field intentionally...and in college football they don't put the time back on the clock...so the Ducks intentionally got a penalty that ate time off the clock and kept THE Ohio state from getting into FG range for the game winning kick...

Two things here. In the NFL they put the time back on the clock so this wouldn't work in the NFL. 2. If this had happened to say Kansas State, Nebraska, Illinois, Minnesota, or NDSU or any number of NOT OHIO STATE Schools...the NCAA would've have just chalked it up as a quirk in the rules and maybe looked at it in the offseason to correct it. But since THE Ohio State was negatively impacted here....We need to look into it NOW.

And replay the last part of the game?

If they do that, the NCAA should just stop playing actual Football games and just have Ohio State and Alabama play for the national title every stinking January.

They should fix the rule, but they should table any discussion about it until after the season. They Ducks used the rule to their advantage. The Rule is the rule at this time. They shouldn't change it until after the season, they shouldn't replay anything as no rule was actually broken.

If Ohio State were all that great they wouldn't have needed the 6 seconds they lost for a last minute to win it FG. Ducks beat them. They LOST. No rule was broken. They can wallow in misery for all time.

Your post reads more about some itch you have with perennial top teams.

Wallow in misery for all time? LMAO. Good thing you don't pay much attention to CFB. Wow.

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

There is nothing wrong with immediately instituting a rule or a change in order to stop an asinine loophole.

What is wrong is to wait.

Edit: They changed it already. Bravo. Great rationale by the way!

In a release Wednesday, the NCAA issued a new rules interpretation on how to handle a penalty for 12 players on the field in the final two minutes of either half. If the defense has 12 players actively participate in the down, the offense can choose, along with the 5-yard penalty, to have the game clock reset to the time that had been displayed at the snap.

"Football is a very dynamic game," Shaw said. "Occasionally there are specific situations where committing a penalty can give a team an advantage. A guiding principle of the NCAA Football Rules Committee is that there should be no benefit when a team commits a penalty."

Now, do you think if this happened in a Maryland/Northwestern game that they would have acted this quickly to correct it?

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

OK. So I don't pay much attention to college football but I didn't realize that Oregon Ducks beat Ohio State and a controversial play was involved.


https://www.yahoo.com/sports/ncaa-mulling-in-season-action-after-oregons-controversial-late-game-situational-move-helped-ducks-beat-ohio-state-154542363.html

So after a timeout the defense put 12 men on the field intentionally...and in college football they don't put the time back on the clock...so the Ducks intentionally got a penalty that ate time off the clock and kept THE Ohio state from getting into FG range for the game winning kick...

Two things here. In the NFL they put the time back on the clock so this wouldn't work in the NFL. 2. If this had happened to say Kansas State, Nebraska, Illinois, Minnesota, or NDSU or any number of NOT OHIO STATE Schools...the NCAA would've have just chalked it up as a quirk in the rules and maybe looked at it in the offseason to correct it. But since THE Ohio State was negatively impacted here....We need to look into it NOW.

And replay the last part of the game?

If they do that, the NCAA should just stop playing actual Football games and just have Ohio State and Alabama play for the national title every stinking January.

They should fix the rule, but they should table any discussion about it until after the season. They Ducks used the rule to their advantage. The Rule is the rule at this time. They shouldn't change it until after the season, they shouldn't replay anything as no rule was actually broken.

If Ohio State were all that great they wouldn't have needed the 6 seconds they lost for a last minute to win it FG. Ducks beat them. They LOST. No rule was broken. They can wallow in misery for all time.

Your post reads more about some itch you have with perennial top teams.

Wallow in misery for all time? LMAO. Good thing you don't pay much attention to CFB. Wow.

I don't have a problem with perennial top teams. I have a problem with preferential treatment that those teams get from the organization they are governed by, giving them advantage to remain perennial top teams. NCAA, MLB, NFL, NBA...etc, they all do it. and it infuriating. It's not about even competition....It's about making a buck.

If what happened was in a game between NDSU and Miami of Ohio...do you think the NCAA would have even noticed much less acted on it?

I seriously don't.

But it was OHIO STATE, one of their chosen few....So they must ACT NOW.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

I have a problem with preferential treatment that those teams get from the organization they are governed by, giving them advantage to remain perennial top teams.

So how did the NCAA give preferential treatment to Ohio State? What was the enduring advantage?

And since Oregon is ALSO a top team, how did the NCAA give THEM preferential treatment?