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Randy Moss - 8/2/2007 2:55:25 PM   
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-- Patriots Mum on Randy Moss' Injury -- Thu Aug 2, 2007 The Boston Herald reports New England Patriots WR Randy Moss (upper leg/hamstring) left the field an hour into Wednesday's practice with an apparent left hamstring or upper leg problem. It didn’t look to be that serious, as he walked off the field under his own power, not limping or needing assistance down a flight of stairs, before getting on a golf cart and being driven away. Moss walked to the sideline and huddled with trainer Jim Whalen after running a long fly pattern down the middle of the field on a flea flicker. QB Tom Brady’s pass flew over Moss’ head incomplete, one of the few the two failed to connect on all day. Before long, Moss’ leg was wrapped in ice. At one point, Brady came over to check on Moss, 30, who was acquired from Oakland in a draft-day trade. After a brief word, the two knocked fists and the quarterback resumed practice. A short time later, Moss walked out on the field, spoke to HC Bill Belichick and then headed off toward the locker room.The Pats did not divulge any information about Moss’ injury. Last season, Moss was reportedly plagued by "aching”"legs. In 2004, he missed three games with a hamstring injury. While Moss has been impressive during the first six days of training camp, he really stood out Wednesday. He had CB Randall Gay shaking his head and talking to himself after being torched on three plays. Moss opened the proceedings with a post-corner route that left the fans drooling. He initially shook SS Rodney Harrison on his second cut to the flag, then beat Gay and was wide open in the secondary. Brady’s bomb hit Moss perfectly in stride, 50 yards downfield. Next up was a sideline route, a dart from Brady that Moss hauled in by flicking his arms up at the last second. Gay had no idea the ball was coming thanks to the timing on the play and Moss’ ability to wait until the last possible moment. The latter two catches are a great example of how well Brady and Moss have developed their timing and chemistry, and how effective they can be. On the third play, Moss leaped over Gay and wrested the ball away before running into ILB Tedy Bruschi and Harrison.

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RE:Randy Moss - 8/6/2007 2:49:15 PM   
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-- Randy Moss Watch -- Mon Aug 6, 2007 The Boston Herald reports the New England Patriots aren’t tipping their hand when it comes to WR Randy Moss. For the third practice in a row, HC Bill Belichick had his players in shorts for a walkthrough. Moss participated, but once again, it was tough to assess the state of his left hamstring, which he injured Wednesday. Moss missed both practices Thursday before resuming activity Friday. While he lined up and went through a bunch of plays, the top speed he reached was a full jog. That was it. By the same token, everyone else was pretty much going at half-speed as well. Moss was held out when the offense and defense scrimmaged. He also didn’t participate when the Pats practiced the Hail Mary pass.
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RE:Randy Moss - 9/26/2007 1:44:08 PM   
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Randy Moss Prevented from Signing Extension Now Wed Sep 26, 2007 The Boston Globe reports when the New England Patriots traded for WR Randy Moss in April, he had two years remaining on his contract and was scheduled to earn $21 million over the 2007-08 seasons. But he agreed to a restructured contract - a one-year, $2.5 million deal that included a $500,000 roster bonus and $2 million in incentives - to consummate the trade. According to the NFL's collective bargaining agreement, a player cannot renegotiate his contract more than once in a one-year period if it will cause an increase in his salary. So in Moss's case, if he hoped to sign an extension that would increase his salary, it would have to come after the season.
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RE:Randy Moss - 9/26/2007 4:44:42 PM   
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So he's basically a FA after this year?
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RE:Randy Moss - 9/26/2007 5:39:15 PM   
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Perfect for him the way he's playing!
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RE:Randy Moss - 9/26/2007 5:50:51 PM   
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That's what I was thinking. He may get one more huge contract out of this whole thing. Perfect situation for him. Especially so, given the fact that everyone has already crowned them champs.
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RE:Randy Moss - 9/26/2007 5:55:50 PM   
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He can be a "two-tricker" - Awesome WR and gazillionaire. :lol:
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RE:Randy Moss - 9/28/2007 2:21:43 PM   
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Moss thrives to the dismay of Vikings fans Alex Voigt Issue date: 9/27/07 While watching "Mike & Mike in the Morning" on ESPN the other day, I found myself comparing my plight to a scene from the movie "Anchorman." Everyone remembers the memorable scene in which Ron Burgundy's friends abandon him, leaving him to lament about his miserable situation and belt out the unforgettable line: "Milk was a bad choice!" How does this random movie quote relate to my situation you ask? Well, during this show, both hosts gave their opinions of who the most valuable player had been in the NFL so far this season. The consensus pick amongst the two sportscasters? None other than former Vikings wide receiver Randy "I play when I wanna play" Moss. The decision by Mike and Mike led me to repeat Burgundy's line from the movie, only in place of the word "milk," I inserted "Napoleon Harris." Harris, as Minnesotans may recall, was the key player the Vikings got in return for Moss in the trade made with the Oakland Raiders in 2005; an unknown linebacker who supposedly had decent upside to justify giving up a once-in-a-generation talent at wide receiver. The other key player the Vikings got out of that trade was the rights to Oakland's pick in the 2005 NFL draft, which was used to pick the speedy Troy Williamson as a possible replacement for Moss. The return on the two key players the Vikes got for Moss? Well, Harris turned out to be a good, but not great linebacker in Minnesota, who the Vikings allowed to leave through free agency last off-season. Williamson, the No. 7 pick in the 2005 draft, continues to prove blazing speed doesn't compensate having bricks for hands. Look, I realize there was a lot more to the infamous Moss trade than the talent of the players involved. Moss was perceived as a malcontent who couldn't stay out of trouble and brought down team chemistry. Many Minnesota fans openly embraced the trade as a sign the franchise was moving in the different direction. We've gone in a different direction, all right. The Vikings have gone 16-19 in the two plus seasons since the Moss trade, and their offense has become about as potent as a Super Soaker in a gunfight. Moss, on the other hand, has found new life playing in New England, negating all the doubters who claimed he lost a step while playing in Oakland. He's catching touchdowns on a regular basis and has helped make an already-potent Patriots team a Super Bowl favorite. Honestly, everybody in Minnesota could see this coming the day the Patriots signed Moss. As soon as he was on a team that wasn't horribly mismanaged, he'd make like it's 1998 and start giving a crap. Moss has always had the talent to be the best receiver in the NFL, he's just lacked the motivation. And now, he has all the motivation he'll ever need. He's playing for a new contract, he's playing for a perennial contender and he's playing catch with one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL, Tom Brady. Vikings fans meanwhile are left reminiscing about the good old days when Moss electrified Minnesota with his athleticism and kept the team interesting even when they weren't necessarily contending. As an avid Vikings fan, I want to feel happy for Moss' newfound success in New England. He's taken a lot of criticism over the years, and he deserves a year in the sun. However, every time I see Moss highlights on "Sports Center," I can't help but feel like a guy whose watching his ex-girlfriend get prom queen every week: he may say he wants what's best for her, but deep down he wants to see her fall off a cliff. Moss had fallen off of that proverbial cliff while playing in Oakland, but now he's back from the dead to haunt Minnesota fans in a way that only David Ortiz could do before.
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RE:Randy Moss - 10/2/2007 6:15:47 AM   
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4 games, 500+ yards, 7 TD's projects to 2000+ yards 28 td's Realisticaly: 1400+ yards and 20+ td's Thanks, Red! BH?? :laughat:
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RE:Randy Moss - 10/10/2007 11:13:23 PM   
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To this day I dont understand how any Viking fan actually wanted Randy Moss to go.
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RE:Randy Moss - 10/11/2007 2:39:26 PM   
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[quote="Jason Dorn"]To this day I dont understand how any Viking fan actually wanted Randy Moss to go.[/quote] There were many. Some of them claimed he was a cancer. Some said 1 trick pony. Others thought trading him would allow us to spend money to improve the defense. I would say anywhere form 30-40% of the fans online wanted him traded. I never understood the philosophy of trading away your best players to win a title. How have the Lakers done without Shaq?
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RE:Randy Moss - 10/11/2007 2:51:50 PM   
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Re: The Minnesota Vikings! [message #436928] Fri, 25 February 2005 15:52 Bradley Hoiseth Messages: 4418 Registered: May 2003 Location: Lake Forest, CA Just so we can get a show of hands, I want to get an accurate account of who is against this trade and who is for it for future reference. Brad Hoiseth, For Ed Funk, Against Craig Boyte, For Lynn Garthwaite, Against Troy Newell, Against Dave Lible, Against Ron Hart, Against Steve Anderson, For Mike Brigham, Against Ed Marotske, Against Kevin Emmer, Against David Frank, Against Jerron Barnett, For Roger Steffan, Against Knuckler, For Todd Oesterreich, Against John Childress, Against Afros, Against Dana Strong, Against Toby Stumbo, Against Dean Pederson, Against David Levine, Against Jeremy Karpinske, Against Tim Cadwallader, Against Shawn Kandula, Against Julie Dammann, For tlgorres, For Tim Sweeney, For Daniel Young, Against Bill Johanesen, Against Frank Offutt, Against Jason Dorn, Against Alan Meyer, For Steve Murray, For Keith Goertz, Against Dave Mueller, Against Jim Solberg, Against Tony Stangeland, For Andy Lowe, Against Eric Ushwitz, Against Tony Spadafora, Against
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RE:Randy Moss - 10/11/2007 10:36:22 PM   
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[quote="Danimal"]Re: The Minnesota Vikings! [message #436928] Fri, 25 February 2005 15:52 Bradley Hoiseth Messages: 4418 Registered: May 2003 Location: Lake Forest, CA Just so we can get a show of hands, I want to get an accurate account of who is against this trade and who is for it for future reference. Brad Hoiseth, For Ed Funk, Against Craig Boyte, For Lynn Garthwaite,against Troy Newell, Against Dave Lible, Against Ron Hart, Against Steve Anderson, For Mike Brigham, Against Ed Marotske, Against Kevin Emmer, Against David Frank, Against Jerron Barnett, For Roger Steffan, Against Knuckler, For Todd Oesterreich, Against John Childress, Against Afros, Against Dana Strong, Against Toby Stumbo, Against Dean Pederson, Against David Levine, Against Jeremy Karpinske, Against Tim Cadwallader, Against Shawn Kandula, Against Julie Dammann, For tlgorres, For Tim Sweeney, For Daniel Young, Against Bill Johanesen, Against Frank Offutt, Against Jason Dorn, Against Alan Meyer, For Steve Murray, For Keith Goertz, Against Dave Mueller, Against Jim Solberg, Against Tony Stangeland, For Andy Lowe, Against Eric Ushwitz, Against Tony Spadafora, Against[/quote] Still cracks me up.
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RE:Randy Moss - 10/12/2007 1:25:45 AM   
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Dan, I have always been against the Moss trade. Always.
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RE:Randy Moss - 10/12/2007 1:36:13 AM   
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What I never understood about the Moss trade. Even if you thought his playing days were over. He still had to be a merchandise/marketing gravy train. That just seems like bad business overall. What do i know though?? :shrug:
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RE:Randy Moss - 10/12/2007 8:02:31 AM   
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[quote="Jeff Allen"]Dan, I have always been against the Moss trade. Always.[/quote] As you can see by that list a lot of the strib posters were also. Hoiseth took the vote, I just keep it as reference, in case anyone needs a reminder.... Hoiseth is about the only one left who refuses to admit that "someone" made a major misjudgement about Randy Moss and what an offensive weapon he was, is, and will continue to be. Personally, I believe that RM laid some straight "Street Moss" smack down on Red, personally, to his face, after the way Red underfunded and mismanaged the team, and Red shipped him off to possibly the WORST team possible as revenge. RM is a smart dude, like his personal style or not. He is in a position to get his ring and cement his ballot into the hall of fame. He has a winners heart and he called out this organization (as it was in 05), for not being as dedicated to winning.
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RE:Randy Moss - 10/12/2007 4:33:34 PM   
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Moss loving the "Patriot Way" -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- T.O., Moss thrive in similar situations By Greg Garber ESPN.com (Archive) Updated: October 10, 2007 Comment Email After two forgettable seasons in Oakland, Randy Moss has been a dominant force in New England. "They're an indication of where those guys are coming from," said Robert Smith, a former teammate of Moss' in Minnesota. "Randy's coming from the Black Hole in Oakland and T.O. comes from whatever that was -- the pain medication and depression -- last year in Dallas. "To be through all that, and now find themselves in a place and a position where they can be successful, that's got to be the best feeling in the world." Both athletes, at times angry young men, brooding and misunderstood during their long and productive careers, seem to be experiencing something new: happiness and fulfillment. "Terrell's situation, basically, I think he's grown up," said ESPN analyst and Hall of Fame quarterback Steve Young, who threw to Owens in San Francisco. "I think it's a function of him being comfortable in that team setting. For Randy, with the moral authority in that Patriots locker room, he has absolutely no wiggle room. If he acts out, the players will go to [Bill] Belichick and say, 'Get him out of here.' "Both guys have found a place where they can become Hall of Fame players by rehabilitating their personal history. There's enough time for them to do it." Moss doesn't often reveal his thoughts to the media, but he does a weekly Q&A on his Web site. Both guys have found a place where they can become Hall of Fame players by rehabilitating their personal history. There's enough time for them to do it. --Steve Young, Hall of Fame quarterback "That's what really makes me laugh, when my soul is feeling good," Moss said in a post a few weeks ago. "That has a lot to do with being happy, being in a good environment. When my soul is happy, I'm happy. It has to do with all of my surroundings, from players to people." Owens had similar sentiments before the season began. "I am [at peace]," he told Texas reporters. "Anytime you can go into a season without any legitimate distractions, and it doesn't weigh heavily on your mind, yeah, you're going to go out there and play free. "You're just going to have an overall better feeling about yourself." Both No. 81 in your program, Owens and Moss are the same man in so many ways, as their careers have traced remarkably similar arcs: Scintillating talent. A series of dubious on- and off-the-field adventures. Consistently gaudy statistics with their first NFL teams, followed by a two-year sabbatical that ended with charges, counter-charges and, ultimately, failure. And now, in their 30s, they have sublimated their outsized egos and worked within the context of thoroughly professional organizations. Their success can be traced to the genuine relationships they have fashioned with their quarterbacks. Today their teams are both 5-0 -- in no small part due to their muscular contributions -- and look to be leading contenders for the Super Bowl. Is it too early to imagine Owens and Moss colliding in February? One of them could crown his career with the only thing missing from his résumé, a Super Bowl victory. How, really, did this happen? Moss: Feeling the love A year ago in Oakland, Moss suffered through the most unproductive season of his career. The Raiders, whose offensive line was abysmal, just couldn't get him the ball. Moss caught 11 touchdown passes in two seasons and was shipped on April 29 to the Patriots for the 110th overall pick in the 2007 draft. It didn't take long for Randy Moss, right, and Tom Brady to develop a winning chemistry. The deal, even in the narrow retrospect of five games, is beginning to look absurd. Through five games, Moss has caught 34 passes, leads the NFL in receiving yards (551) and is tied with the Giants' Plaxico Burress for the lead in touchdowns (7). Through four games, Moss had already caught as many touchdown passes as any Patriots receiver ever caught from Brady in an entire season. The prospects are terrifying for NFL defenses. The numbers, extrapolated across 16 games, would look like this: 109 catches, 1,763 yards and 22 touchdowns. The Patriots, of course, saw this coming. They assigned the locker next to Brady to Moss, now 30, and watched the chemistry develop. "There's just a lot of love in the air," Moss said on his Web site. You can really feel it, you can smell it, you can taste it. That's just something good that they have here in the Patriots' organization. There's a love that we have for one another." "We share some pretty deep conversations," Brady told reporters a few weeks ago. "He's a veteran player who has provided leadership in his attention to detail, his awareness on the field. Everybody's happy to have him. "I don't know what he was like before, it's the only Randy I know. The nice part of being here is you really just have to worry about yourself, and the rest takes care of itself because you realize you have a bunch of teammates that are doing the exact same thing." There's just a lot of love in the air. You can really feel it, you can smell it, you can taste it. That's just something good that they have here in the Patriots' organization. --Randy Moss Brady trusts Moss to the extent that he will do something most NFL quarterbacks won't; he'll throw the high-risk ball to Moss' back shoulder -- a pass that can easily turn into an interception. Against the perceived odds, Moss has bought heavily into the selfless, almost mythical "Patriot Way." "The Patriots believe in team," Moss wrote on his Web site last week. "There are no I's up here. When you put the team concept together and really go out and execute your game plan and make things happen, it feels very good." Moss has put his money where his mouth is. Due to earn $21 million in the two years remaining on his Raiders contract, Moss agreed to a one-year deal that included a $500,000 roster bonus and $2 million in incentives. His teammates say he has simply come in and acted like a professional. "He doesn't have to be the guy," Patriots linebacker Mike Vrabel told ESPN's Rachel Nichols. "He wants to be part of the team. He wants to be part of the piece that helps us go out and win games. "There's a lot of ways to be a leader. It's not just [that] you were voted a captain or you're the one hooting and hollering. It's the little things: He knows his assignments, where to line up, what routes to run. He knows what to do when Tom looks over and gives him a signal. Those are things that young guys can look at and say, 'Not only is he talented, but he knows what to do and works hard.'" Sound like lip service? During a second-quarter completion from Brady to Donte' Stallworth in Week 5, Moss actually blocked two different Browns defensive backs. Despite a below-par day, he was seen on the sideline laughing and joking with teammates. "There's a culture round here of just doing your job," Brady told reporters. "Players who come into this organization, they see it and -- that's just the way it ends up going." Smith sees symmetry in the evolution of Owens and Moss. "Being in this [broadcasting] industry, if they don't like you, people find what they're looking for," Smith said. "They use everything about you in a negative way to support what they believed all along. Both of these guys are incredible players, and to find themselves at the height of their games and in position to win the ultimate prize, well, I think it's great."
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RE:Randy Moss - 10/12/2007 5:01:13 PM   
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ACtually that article should have been written as "compare and contrast" Randy's 2 year stay in Oakland was hell on the field and quiet off the field. Owen's 2 years in Philly he led them to a Super Bowl but was hell off the field.
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RE:Randy Moss - 10/12/2007 5:02:09 PM   
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Owens:
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"Anytime you can go into a season without any legitimate distractions, and it doesn't weigh heavily on your mind, yeah, you're going to go out there and play free.
It's too bad he didn't give that gift to his teammates in recent years. HE was the distraction that kept them from playing "free."
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RE:Randy Moss - 10/13/2007 8:29:03 PM   
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[quote="Danimal"][quote="Jeff Allen"]Dan, I have always been against the Moss trade. Always.[/quote] As you can see by that list a lot of the strib posters were also. Hoiseth took the vote, I just keep it as reference, in case anyone needs a reminder.... Hoiseth is about the only one left who refuses to admit that "someone" made a major misjudgement about Randy Moss and what an offensive weapon he was, is, and will continue to be. Personally, I believe that RM laid some straight "Street Moss" smack down on Red, personally, to his face, after the way Red underfunded and mismanaged the team, and Red shipped him off to possibly the WORST team possible as revenge. [/quote] With the added bonus of bending over the entire state of Minnesota for not building him a stadium.
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RE:Randy Moss - 10/28/2007 2:50:36 AM   
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From Moss's Website recently... http://www.therealrandymoss.com/rmoss/newsdetail.aspx?ArticleId=3008 From Joe P., St. Paul, MN: Will you really read this? All I wanna say is I think you’re one of the greatest WRs to ever grace a football field. I wish you wouldn’t have left Minnesota, but I can understand why. RM: “Joe, this is my personal website, so I do read this. I thank you for considering me one of the best to play at this position. Being a Viking, it got to me too because I never wanted to leave. The Vikings were the team that drafted me and I really felt obligated to bring them home a Super Bowl. We had two shots and we didn’t make it past the NFC Championships twice. There was a lot of hurt inside me when I left because I thought I was supposed to bring those people a championship and I never did.” Stupid Stupid Red McCombs :censor:
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RE:Randy Moss - 10/30/2007 5:50:27 AM   
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[quote="Justin Sampson"]From Moss's Website recently... http://www.therealrandymoss.com/rmoss/newsdetail.aspx?ArticleId=3008 From Joe P., St. Paul, MN: Will you really read this? All I wanna say is I think you’re one of the greatest WRs to ever grace a football field. I wish you wouldn’t have left Minnesota, but I can understand why. RM: “Joe, this is my personal website, so I do read this. I thank you for considering me one of the best to play at this position. Being a Viking, it got to me too because I never wanted to leave. The Vikings were the team that drafted me and I really felt obligated to bring them home a Super Bowl. We had two shots and we didn’t make it past the NFC Championships twice. There was a lot of hurt inside me when I left because I thought I was supposed to bring those people a championship and I never did.” Stupid Stupid Red McCombs :censor:[/quote] We were privleged to have the greatest WR play for the Vikes. What memories. :viking:
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RE:Randy Moss - 10/30/2007 4:58:00 PM   
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[quote="thebigo"][quote="Danimal"][quote="Jeff Allen"]Dan, I have always been against the Moss trade. Always.[/quote] As you can see by that list a lot of the strib posters were also. Hoiseth took the vote, I just keep it as reference, in case anyone needs a reminder.... Hoiseth is about the only one left who refuses to admit that "someone" made a major misjudgement about Randy Moss and what an offensive weapon he was, is, and will continue to be. Personally, I believe that RM laid some straight "Street Moss" smack down on Red, personally, to his face, after the way Red underfunded and mismanaged the team, and Red shipped him off to possibly the WORST team possible as revenge. [/quote] With the added bonus of bending over the entire state of Minnesota for not building him a stadium.[/quote] I have always thought the exact same thing and noone has ever showed me evidence to say different.
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RE:Randy Moss - 11/22/2007 10:16:46 AM   
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I still think Moss is Enstien compared to Owens. Through all the crap Randy gets what Terrell never will.
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RE:Randy Moss - 11/22/2007 4:56:05 PM   
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I think Vikings fans have always underrated Owens because we had Moss and not him. If not for Moss, Owens would be the greatest WR of the last 10 years. He is a gamechanger with an incredible size, speed, strength combination. He has an inflator index on QBs like Moss, but smaller. He is not as fast but is more physcical. My dream team would have those two starting at WR together.
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