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RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 8/19/2015 11:15:21 AM   
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Dang outta shape players

Hunter Pence Headed To DL With Oblique Strain

Been a rough go for him this year.
They get a great lift from him when he's healthy.
The energizer bunny.

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RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 8/19/2015 4:02:56 PM   
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that is some kind of hot:

Today in 1980 George Brett's 30-game hit streak ended. Over the 30 games:

10 doubles,
3 triples,
6 HR
42 RBI!
3 strikeouts!
.467/.504/.746
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RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 8/19/2015 4:07:56 PM   
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Chase Utley joins the Dodgers.

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RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 8/19/2015 4:20:43 PM   
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Chase Utley joins the Dodgers.


HAH

less than 24 hrs ago the Phils said he wasn't going anywhere!

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RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 8/19/2015 4:33:15 PM   
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Rangers go back-to-back-to-back in 7-3 win over Ms.
Some unexpected teams playing very well down the stretch.

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RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 8/19/2015 4:36:36 PM   
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The Pirates have designated shortstop Pedro Florimon for assignment in order to clear space on the roster for right-hander Josh Wall, tweets Travis Sawchik of the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review. The move comes less than 24 hours after the 28-year-old defensive specialist delivered some late-inning heroics with a walk-off triple in the 15th inning.

Florimon has appeared in 15 games with the Buccos but received just 21 plate appearances, as much of his work has come as a defensive replacement. He logged 134 games as the Twins’ primary shortstop back in the 2013 season, hitting .221/.281/.330 with nine homers and outstanding defense, but he’s never hit consistently enough to stick in the Majors for a stretch of multiple seasons. Florimon’s batted just .095/.181/.147 in 107 plate appearances since his lone season as a regular in 2013.


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RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 8/19/2015 5:31:11 PM   
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that is some kind of hot:

Today in 1980 George Brett's 30-game hit streak ended. Over the 30 games:

10 doubles,
3 triples,
6 HR
42 RBI!
3 strikeouts!
.467/.504/.746


Went to KC and watched about a dozen of his games that year. What a hitter!

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RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 8/19/2015 5:36:53 PM   
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The Pirates have designated shortstop Pedro Florimon for assignment in order to clear space on the roster for right-hander Josh Wall, tweets Travis Sawchik of the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review. The move comes less than 24 hours after the 28-year-old defensive specialist delivered some late-inning heroics with a walk-off triple in the 15th inning.

Florimon has appeared in 15 games with the Buccos but received just 21 plate appearances, as much of his work has come as a defensive replacement. He logged 134 games as the Twins’ primary shortstop back in the 2013 season, hitting .221/.281/.330 with nine homers and outstanding defense, but he’s never hit consistently enough to stick in the Majors for a stretch of multiple seasons. Florimon’s batted just .095/.181/.147 in 107 plate appearances since his lone season as a regular in 2013.


but ... but ... but ... he LOOKS like a shortstop!

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RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 8/19/2015 7:08:41 PM   
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When the second wild card was added back in 2012, my initial hesitation concerned two potential factors:

1. What if a second-place team with a great record had to play a team with a much inferior record and goes one-and-done?

2. The increased possibility of a mediocre team reaching the playoffs.

Both of these could happen this year. In the National League, the Pittsburgh Pirates might end up with the second-best record in the majors and be forced into the coin-flip game. Not only might they be forced to burn their ace Gerrit Cole in that game while the NL East and NL West winners -- with worse records -- get to rest and gear up for the Division Series, it's possible they end up playing a team that has five or six fewer wins (right now, the Pirates are three wins better than the Cubs). If the Pirates switched divisions with the Phillies, they'd be seven games up on the Mets and sitting pretty. So by a matter of geography, they're likely headed to the wild-card game for a third straight season. It's the system we have. It's not the fairest of systems.

Over in the American League, the battle for the second wild card currently lines up like this heading into Wednesday's games:

Angels: 62-57

Orioles: 61-57

Rangers: 60-58

Twins: 59-60

Rays: 59-60

Tigers: 57-61

None of these teams are particularly good or particularly interesting. Sure, if you're a fan of one of these teams, you'd rather be .500 with a chance at the playoffs than .500 and going nowhere.

The additional wild card will certainly provide for more games down the stretch this season that affect the playoff chase and are thus worth paying attention to, but is it really all that more exciting? It's hard to find evidence that fans of these teams are especially enthralled with this wild-card race. Check out year-to-year average attendance per game:

Angels: -1,783

Orioles: +179

Rangers: -4,213

Twins: -567

Rays: -2,468

Tigers: -1,329

In the end, mediocrity is still mediocrity and fans don't really get too excited about .500 teams. Maybe those figures will change a bit between now and the end of the season if all those teams remain bunched up, I don't know. The Rangers have been a big surprise, hanging in there despite the season-ending injury to Yu Darvish, yet they've suffered the second-biggest attendance drop in the majors (only the Phillies have lost more fans per game this year). The Twins, even with a hot start, haven't been able to carry that early momentum into attendance increases.

Aside from that, there's a good chance we end up with an 83-win team in the playoffs. I get that this is the age of parity, but I still want quality in the postseason. Last year, we had two sub-90-win teams reach the World Series for the first time as two wild cards both made it. I do like my regular seasons to mean something, to separate the best teams from the mediocre. Isn't that why we play 162 games? The playoffs are already enough of a crapshoot that an 83-win team can sneak in and win it all -- see the 2006 Cardinals, who won a weak NL Central with 83 wins and then went on to capture the World Series.

I guess I just have to learn to separate these things. We have the regular season and then the postseason "tournament." And the tournament crowns a World Series champion, not the best team in baseball.


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RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 8/19/2015 7:09:30 PM   
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Let's go Tigers! Pound them Cubbies!
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RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 8/19/2015 7:10:02 PM   
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Helluva catch by Juan Perez today.
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RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 8/19/2015 7:10:45 PM   
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Let's go Tigers! Pound them Cubbies!

ChiTown is alive with pennant fever.

Joe Maddon, baby.

ok, wild-card fever maybe

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RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 8/19/2015 7:19:20 PM   
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When the second wild card was added back in 2012, my initial hesitation concerned two potential factors:

1. What if a second-place team with a great record had to play a team with a much inferior record and goes one-and-done?

2. The increased possibility of a mediocre team reaching the playoffs.

Both of these could happen this year. In the National League, the Pittsburgh Pirates might end up with the second-best record in the majors and be forced into the coin-flip game. Not only might they be forced to burn their ace Gerrit Cole in that game while the NL East and NL West winners -- with worse records -- get to rest and gear up for the Division Series, it's possible they end up playing a team that has five or six fewer wins (right now, the Pirates are three wins better than the Cubs). If the Pirates switched divisions with the Phillies, they'd be seven games up on the Mets and sitting pretty. So by a matter of geography, they're likely headed to the wild-card game for a third straight season. It's the system we have. It's not the fairest of systems.

Over in the American League, the battle for the second wild card currently lines up like this heading into Wednesday's games:

Angels: 62-57

Orioles: 61-57

Rangers: 60-58

Twins: 59-60

Rays: 59-60

Tigers: 57-61

None of these teams are particularly good or particularly interesting. Sure, if you're a fan of one of these teams, you'd rather be .500 with a chance at the playoffs than .500 and going nowhere.

The additional wild card will certainly provide for more games down the stretch this season that affect the playoff chase and are thus worth paying attention to, but is it really all that more exciting? It's hard to find evidence that fans of these teams are especially enthralled with this wild-card race. Check out year-to-year average attendance per game:

Angels: -1,783

Orioles: +179

Rangers: -4,213

Twins: -567

Rays: -2,468

Tigers: -1,329

In the end, mediocrity is still mediocrity and fans don't really get too excited about .500 teams. Maybe those figures will change a bit between now and the end of the season if all those teams remain bunched up, I don't know. The Rangers have been a big surprise, hanging in there despite the season-ending injury to Yu Darvish, yet they've suffered the second-biggest attendance drop in the majors (only the Phillies have lost more fans per game this year). The Twins, even with a hot start, haven't been able to carry that early momentum into attendance increases.

Aside from that, there's a good chance we end up with an 83-win team in the playoffs. I get that this is the age of parity, but I still want quality in the postseason. Last year, we had two sub-90-win teams reach the World Series for the first time as two wild cards both made it. I do like my regular seasons to mean something, to separate the best teams from the mediocre. Isn't that why we play 162 games? The playoffs are already enough of a crapshoot that an 83-win team can sneak in and win it all -- see the 2006 Cardinals, who won a weak NL Central with 83 wins and then went on to capture the World Series.

I guess I just have to learn to separate these things. We have the regular season and then the postseason "tournament." And the tournament crowns a World Series champion, not the best team in baseball.




Personally, I'm a fan of not having any Wild Card spots.

162 games is too many, but if you are going to play that many, win your division, or no postseason.

NBA is even worse. 82 games, some grueling travel and scheduling, then half the teams make the playoffs. Used to be 2/3 made it.

Guys just don't always show up night to night in the NBA. Hard to blame them.

Last NBA season, everybody was resting down the stretch.
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RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 8/19/2015 7:36:23 PM   
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Detroit pitcher hits a HR in his first career plate appearance. Welcome to the record books. Damn, that kid looks like a hitter!
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RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 8/19/2015 8:15:39 PM   
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Detroit pitcher hits a HR in his first career plate appearance. Welcome to the record books. Damn, that kid looks like a hitter!

Gee ... a complete ballplayer
Novel concept.

Perhaps already the most interesting man in baseball, Detroit Tigers pitcher Daniel Norris added to his legend Tuesday.

Set to start against the Chicago Cubs on Wednesday night at Wrigley Field, Norris took part in batting practice and apparently he can swing the bat pretty good too. Hitting from the left side, the 22-year-old sent a ball screaming down the right field line, smashing a few panels near the bottom of one of Wrigley's brand-new video boards.


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RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 8/20/2015 1:26:45 PM   
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The Jon Lester sure thing is no longer a sure thing.
Way too inconsistent in big games to be considered elite.

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RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 8/20/2015 1:44:24 PM   
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Detroit pitcher hits a HR in his first career plate appearance. Welcome to the record books. Damn, that kid looks like a hitter!

Gee ... a complete ballplayer
Novel concept.

Perhaps already the most interesting man in baseball, Detroit Tigers pitcher Daniel Norris added to his legend Tuesday.

Set to start against the Chicago Cubs on Wednesday night at Wrigley Field, Norris took part in batting practice and apparently he can swing the bat pretty good too. Hitting from the left side, the 22-year-old sent a ball screaming down the right field line, smashing a few panels near the bottom of one of Wrigley's brand-new video boards.




Then he left the game with an oblique injury in the 5th

Probably swinging the bat too hard.

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RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 8/20/2015 2:22:10 PM   
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The Jon Lester sure thing is no longer a sure thing.
Way too inconsistent in big games to be considered elite.


Sounds like just the right guy for the Twins to overpay for.

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RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 8/20/2015 3:06:55 PM   
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The Jon Lester sure thing is no longer a sure thing.
Way too inconsistent in big games to be considered elite.


His current contract goes through 2020 with 2021 an option year.....


2016 32 Chicago Cubs $25,000,000
2017 33 Chicago Cubs $25,000,000
2018 34 Chicago Cubs $27,500,000
2019 35 Chicago Cubs $27,500,000
2020 36 Chicago Cubs $20,000,000

What if his best years are behind him? He is 31 now and has an era+ of 106 this season....not the kind of performance worthy of his 20 million salary in 2015.

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RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 8/21/2015 2:19:25 PM   
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The Pirates announced today that they have reinstated Josh Harrison from the disabled list and designated right-hander Josh Wall for assignment to clear room on the active roster.

Harrison tore the UCL in his left thumb on July 6 — an injury that required surgery to correct. He’s returned to action slightly faster than the Pirates anticipated, as their initial announcement said he’d be sidelined for seven weeks. The loss of Harrison left the Pirates short-handed and contributed to the acquisition of Aramis Ramirez. Now that Harrison is back, he’ll presumably split time at third base and in right field, possibly at the expense of some playing time for Ramirez and Gregory Polanco. Given his defensive prowess and solid bat, it’d be surprising if Harrison weren’t in the lineup on an everyday basis.

Wall, 28, had his contract selected to the roster earlier this week after a 15-inning game that left Pittsburgh’s bullpen short-handed. Wall has appeared in the Majors in each of the past three seasons, totaling 13 2/3 innings, but he’s yet to pitch in the Major Leagues this season. Instead, he’s spent the year at the Triple-A level, where he owns a very strong 2.93 ERA with 8.5 K/9 and 2.6 BB/9 in 30 2/3 innings.


Wall may be 28, but his numbers are better than a lot of scrubs the Twins have. Right around a strike out per inning would put him ahead of a lot of guys.

It's the type of deal that Ryan should make to try and improve the team;Player to be named later. or cash

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RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 8/21/2015 7:18:42 PM   
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Madbum slugs his fifth homer.
That's too bad ... should have an overweight over-the-hiller making a couple dozen mil doing that for him instead.

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RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 8/21/2015 7:33:22 PM   
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Madbum slugs his fifth homer.
That's too bad ... should have an overweight over-the-hiller making a couple dozen mil doing that for him instead.

Madison Bumgarner with his 5th homer tonight.

Same number as Escobar and Vargas.

Suzuki has 4.

Nunez, Herrmann, Arcia 2 each.


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RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 8/21/2015 9:42:13 PM   
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Fiers for the Stros with a no no thru 8 and a third .......

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RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 8/21/2015 9:43:11 PM   
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120 pitches ... pretty sure they are having to tape his arm back on after every pitch !!!

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RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 8/21/2015 9:46:06 PM   
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Finishes it in style with a K

Another no-no.

They seem to be becoming more frequent, or maybe I'm just old.

5 this season already ....

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