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RE: Players and prospects III - 6/25/2019 12:25:32 PM   
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Trade speculation is media bs
He’s not going anywhere
Makes it more likely Schoop is gone after a year

Sano has won one game for WaR
Has had a hand in a bunch of losses

That’s about all I measure in WAR stats

WAR works like this: Let's say he has won 3 games in WAR. Then he has lost 2.2 games in WAR. So he's 0.8 WAR. If he had lost more games than he won, as you are speculating, then he would have a negative WAR.


This of course assumes WAR is not subjective, inaccurate calculation, which it of course it is.

You need to proofread this.


You need to stop pretending WAR has any validity.

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RE: Players and prospects III - 6/25/2019 12:31:14 PM   
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Trade speculation is media bs
He’s not going anywhere
Makes it more likely Schoop is gone after a year

Sano has won one game for WaR
Has had a hand in a bunch of losses

That’s about all I measure in WAR stats

WAR works like this: Let's say he has won 3 games in WAR. Then he has lost 2.2 games in WAR. So he's 0.8 WAR. If he had lost more games than he won, as you are speculating, then he would have a negative WAR.


This of course assumes WAR is not subjective, inaccurate calculation, which it of course it is.

You need to proofread this.


You need to stop pretending WAR has any validity.

1. Babe Ruth+ (22) 182.4 L
2. Walter Johnson+ (21) 164.3 R
3. Cy Young+ (22) 163.6 R
4. Barry Bonds (22) 162.8 L
5. Willie Mays+ (22) 156.4 R
6. Ty Cobb+ (24) 151.0 L
7. Hank Aaron+ (23) 143.0 R
8. Roger Clemens (24) 139.2 R
9. Tris Speaker+ (22) 134.0 L
10. Honus Wagner+ (21) 130.8 R
11. Stan Musial+ (22) 128.2 L
12. Rogers Hornsby+ (23) 127.0 R
13. Eddie Collins+ (25) 124.0 L
14. Ted Williams+ (19) 123.1 L
15. Pete Alexander+ (20) 118.9 R
16. Alex Rodriguez (22) 117.8 R
17. Kid Nichols+ (15) 116.1 B
18. Lou Gehrig+ (17) 112.4 L
19. Rickey Henderson+ (25) 111.2 R
20. Mickey Mantle+ (18) 110.3 B

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RE: Players and prospects III - 6/25/2019 12:33:58 PM   
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In the past, with normal positioning, your third baseman was required to have a strong arm, quick hands, excellent fielding skills, ability to charge a bunt and throw while range could be limited. Sano, a very large man with a great and strong arm was fine for 3rd base. But with the shifts, the 3rd baseman sometimes has to cover as much ground as the shortstop used to. Having range is now more crucial.

Also with the shifts and how far back infielders are now playing, being able to charge the ball and throw is probably more important than lateral range for a shortstop or second baseman.

Sano might be Wally Pipped because of defensive shifts.

I'll have to check his defensive WAR numbers.

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RE: Players and prospects III - 6/25/2019 12:41:10 PM   
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Trade speculation is media bs
He’s not going anywhere
Makes it more likely Schoop is gone after a year

Sano has won one game for WaR
Has had a hand in a bunch of losses

That’s about all I measure in WAR stats

WAR works like this: Let's say he has won 3 games in WAR. Then he has lost 2.2 games in WAR. So he's 0.8 WAR. If he had lost more games than he won, as you are speculating, then he would have a negative WAR.


This of course assumes WAR is not subjective, inaccurate calculation, which it of course it is.

You need to proofread this.


You need to stop pretending WAR has any validity.

1. Babe Ruth+ (22) 182.4 L
2. Walter Johnson+ (21) 164.3 R
3. Cy Young+ (22) 163.6 R
4. Barry Bonds (22) 162.8 L
5. Willie Mays+ (22) 156.4 R
6. Ty Cobb+ (24) 151.0 L
7. Hank Aaron+ (23) 143.0 R
8. Roger Clemens (24) 139.2 R
9. Tris Speaker+ (22) 134.0 L
10. Honus Wagner+ (21) 130.8 R
11. Stan Musial+ (22) 128.2 L
12. Rogers Hornsby+ (23) 127.0 R
13. Eddie Collins+ (25) 124.0 L
14. Ted Williams+ (19) 123.1 L
15. Pete Alexander+ (20) 118.9 R
16. Alex Rodriguez (22) 117.8 R
17. Kid Nichols+ (15) 116.1 B
18. Lou Gehrig+ (17) 112.4 L
19. Rickey Henderson+ (25) 111.2 R
20. Mickey Mantle+ (18) 110.3 B

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Jeez, Hall of Famers and cheaten ass bastards with great stats have high WARS. Wow Matt, you ... really didn't prove anything with that list. It says nothing about the accuracy of the number or the validity of the ranked order of players.

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RE: Players and prospects III - 6/25/2019 12:50:59 PM   
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Trade speculation is media bs
He’s not going anywhere
Makes it more likely Schoop is gone after a year

Sano has won one game for WaR
Has had a hand in a bunch of losses

That’s about all I measure in WAR stats

WAR works like this: Let's say he has won 3 games in WAR. Then he has lost 2.2 games in WAR. So he's 0.8 WAR. If he had lost more games than he won, as you are speculating, then he would have a negative WAR.



All WAR is negative.

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RE: Players and prospects III - 6/25/2019 12:54:38 PM   
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Playing second only in Aa
13 hrs around .300
Hitting leadoff

Played third some last year

Options coming

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RE: Players and prospects III - 6/25/2019 5:37:51 PM   
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(that's 10-9)


Jaylin Davis Homered twice, 3 hits, six RBI's
Wade was 3-3/drove in 2

Gordon was 0-5

Pitching came in 3's

Stewart gave up 3 in 3 innings, De Jong 3 in 3.1IP Eades 3 in 1.1innings


GCL won 4-1

#1 Pick Cavaco (BUST) 0-3 (BUST)

Third baseman Jake Hirabayashi had 3 hits/2 rbi's
He was 2nd to last pick from UCLA this year

Bunch of guys I don't know combined on a 6 hitter, and one unearned run 10 strikeouts

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RE: Players and prospects III - 6/25/2019 6:11:44 PM   
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RE: Players and prospects III - 6/25/2019 6:47:38 PM   
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Are you positive Sano is a turd?

OPS is .833 and his WAR is 0.8 in 28 games....you keep playing him until someone offers you something.


Yes.

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RE: Players and prospects III - 6/25/2019 7:03:00 PM   
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Roch won today in a Stiegs score


(that's 10-9)


Jaylin Davis Homered twice, 3 hits, six RBI's
Wade was 3-3/drove in 2

Gordon was 0-5

Pitching came in 3's

Stewart gave up 3 in 3 innings, De Jong 3 in 3.1IP Eades 3 in 1.1innings


GCL won 4-1

#1 Pick Cavaco (BUST) 0-3 (BUST)

Third baseman Jake Hirabayashi had 3 hits/2 rbi's
He was 2nd to last pick from UCLA this year

Bunch of guys I don't know combined on a 6 hitter, and one unearned run 10 strikeouts


At least there has been offense at Rochester of late. That is nice.

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RE: Players and prospects III - 6/26/2019 7:13:33 AM   
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Lewin Diaz hat a homer and three run triple in Pensacola win
Duran fanned 8 in five innings lost 2-0

Eliz and Cedar Rapids won

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RE: Players and prospects III - 6/26/2019 11:50:08 AM   
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Roch won today in a Stiegs score


(that's 10-9)


Jaylin Davis Homered twice, 3 hits, six RBI's
Wade was 3-3/drove in 2

Gordon was 0-5

Pitching came in 3's

Stewart gave up 3 in 3 innings, De Jong 3 in 3.1IP Eades 3 in 1.1innings


GCL won 4-1

#1 Pick Cavaco (BUST) 0-3 (BUST)

Third baseman Jake Hirabayashi had 3 hits/2 rbi's
He was 2nd to last pick from UCLA this year

Bunch of guys I don't know combined on a 6 hitter, and one unearned run 10 strikeouts

I thought the same thing when I heard the score of the Rochester game on the radio last night.

Still waiting for that first 10-9 Twins win this season.

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RE: Players and prospects III - 6/26/2019 11:56:33 AM   
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Rochester adding guys moving up to provide offense

Lewin Diaz hat a homer and three run triple in Pensacola win
Duran fanned 8 in five innings lost 2-0

Eliz and Cedar Rapids won


Inside Lewin Diaz picking up in Cola where he left off in Fort Myers.

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RE: Players and prospects III - 6/26/2019 12:03:48 PM   
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Rochester adding guys moving up to provide offense

Lewin Diaz hat a homer and three run triple in Pensacola win
Duran fanned 8 in five innings lost 2-0

Eliz and Cedar Rapids won


Inside Lewin Diaz picking up in Cola where he left off in Fort Myers.


He’s definitely having a breakout season

About on time now
22 until November

And probably has to be added to the 40 man roster

No brainer now

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RE: Players and prospects III - 6/26/2019 3:49:23 PM   
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Roch won today in a Stiegs score


(that's 10-9)


Jaylin Davis Homered twice, 3 hits, six RBI's
Wade was 3-3/drove in 2

Gordon was 0-5

Pitching came in 3's

Stewart gave up 3 in 3 innings, De Jong 3 in 3.1IP Eades 3 in 1.1innings


GCL won 4-1

#1 Pick Cavaco (BUST) 0-3 (BUST)

Third baseman Jake Hirabayashi had 3 hits/2 rbi's
He was 2nd to last pick from UCLA this year

Bunch of guys I don't know combined on a 6 hitter, and one unearned run 10 strikeouts

I'm devastated by the news on Cavaco. Was that his first game?

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RE: Players and prospects III - 6/26/2019 4:05:14 PM   
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RE: Players and prospects III - 6/26/2019 4:30:35 PM   
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RE: Players and prospects III - 6/26/2019 7:43:17 PM   
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This worthless bunch is now 1-2

Escobar 3IP 4K

Jaylin davis has a double and triple in first 2 at bats tonight for ROch, leading 6-2. Hutchison has coughed up a couple in the third inning, yet to get out of it.

Mejia opener for Pensacola 2IP 2K
Diaz has his fourth double in AA

FTM lost 3-2 Miranda 2-5RBI with is 15th double, Lewis 0-5/10th error

Steer has 3 doubles/3 hits in 3AB and 3RBI, but the pitching stinks and Eliz is behind 8-6

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RE: Players and prospects III - 6/26/2019 8:29:01 PM   
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Impressive

Since being reinstated from the Injured List on June 1, Brent Rooker ranks among International League leaders in:
AVG (1st, .409)
OBP (1st, .556)
OPS (1st, 1.298)
R (1st, 20)
BB (T-1st, 18)
RBI (2nd, 25)
H (T-3rd, 27)
2B (T-4th, 7)
TB (5th, 49)
XBH (T-5th, 12)

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RE: Players and prospects III - 6/26/2019 10:34:23 PM   
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RE: Players and prospects III - 6/26/2019 10:37:51 PM   
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< Message edited by twinsfan -- 6/26/2019 10:39:05 PM >

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RE: Players and prospects III - 6/28/2019 11:55:52 AM   
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RE: Players and prospects III - 6/30/2019 6:54:20 PM   
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FTM lost 7-4

Cabbage a solo HR(3) 2H/2RBi, Bechtold 2H/RBI, Helman and Maciel 2 hits

Lachlan Wells 6K in 5IP, gave up 3
Melvi Acosta gave up 2 in 3IP struck out 8 for the loss


Roch 10 - 5 L
Cave 2H/R, Rooker H/BB/2R, Wade H/BB/R

Stewart gave up 8R in 4.2, Poppen 2 more in 3.1IP w/5K

CR got beat late 5-1

Cabezas 3H/R/7K in 8IP

Offense stunk

Pensacola up 5-1

Kirilloff 3H/R, Hamilton 2H/2RBI, Gore H/2RBI so far

Mejia IP K Opening

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RE: Players and prospects III - 7/3/2019 5:03:36 PM   
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RE: Players and prospects III - 7/3/2019 8:08:54 PM   
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Colina walked 1 struck out 9 in 8IP. Helman solo HR was the only run.

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