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RE: 2025 Vikings Free Agency - 3/20/2025 1:09:38 PM   
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Assuming he's healthy, Moore was a really good signing. Punt returns are back and he can be a real weapon if KOC uses him right.
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RE: 2025 Vikings Free Agency - 3/20/2025 1:21:22 PM   
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I'm not normally a Paul Allen guy, but he went hard at Alec Lewis!

https://www.si.com/nfl/vikings/news/clashing-sources-paul-allen-and-alec-lewis-debate-vikings-interest-in-aaron-rodgers-01jpr0d66w05

PA is so full of himself I rarely pay attention to anything he has to say. He has tendency to ramble for 5-10 minutes to lead into his personal opinion just make it sound very important.

I'm not PA fan either, but like him or not, he is extremely well plugged in where the Vikings are concerned. My speculation; Erin's agent contacted the Vikings. Someone in the FO said "hey we should at least consider this"...maybe they even had Brez mock up how to fit that contract in the payroll...told KOC, it's up to you...KOC said thanks, but no thanks.

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RE: 2025 Vikings Free Agency - 3/20/2025 2:07:07 PM   
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Outside of the unknowns at QB, when was the last time the projected roster looked as good and complete going into the draft? Usually there are at least 2-3 giant needs along with several more lesser needs. So many that it's like we'd need three drafts just to catch up.

It's all on paper, but the potential is there.
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RE: 2025 Vikings Free Agency - 3/20/2025 4:53:58 PM   
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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: stfrank

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

I'm not normally a Paul Allen guy, but he went hard at Alec Lewis!

https://www.si.com/nfl/vikings/news/clashing-sources-paul-allen-and-alec-lewis-debate-vikings-interest-in-aaron-rodgers-01jpr0d66w05

PA is so full of himself I rarely pay attention to anything he has to say. He has tendency to ramble for 5-10 minutes to lead into his personal opinion just make it sound very important.

I'm not PA fan either, but like him or not, he is extremely well plugged in where the Vikings are concerned. My speculation; Erin's agent contacted the Vikings. Someone in the FO said "hey we should at least consider this"...maybe they even had Brez mock up how to fit that contract in the payroll...told KOC, it's up to you...KOC said thanks, but no thanks.


I think there is more to it even. I truly think they discussed it. IMO:

Aaron wants to be available less offseason less than Kirk was at the mini camps and Training Camp.

So you are looking at a situation worse than Darnold and Favre even. Even though there was a declining chance as the season wore on that Darnold was coming back he was always all in at everything important for the team and building chemistry.

I doubt the Jets felt that way over the last couple years and the Packers 3-5 prior. He is always using the retirement card it seems even in the middle of the season when they wanted him around more.

They said it to Danny Dimes and after that they felt the same about Aaron.....JJ and Darnold wanted to be here and were all in; if we sign Aaron he isn't really either.....

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RE: 2025 Vikings Free Agency - 3/20/2025 7:06:09 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: stfrank

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

I'm not normally a Paul Allen guy, but he went hard at Alec Lewis!

https://www.si.com/nfl/vikings/news/clashing-sources-paul-allen-and-alec-lewis-debate-vikings-interest-in-aaron-rodgers-01jpr0d66w05

PA is so full of himself I rarely pay attention to anything he has to say. He has tendency to ramble for 5-10 minutes to lead into his personal opinion just make it sound very important.

I'm not PA fan either, but like him or not, he is extremely well plugged in where the Vikings are concerned. My speculation; Erin's agent contacted the Vikings. Someone in the FO said "hey we should at least consider this"...maybe they even had Brez mock up how to fit that contract in the payroll...told KOC, it's up to you...KOC said thanks, but no thanks.


I think there is more to it even. I truly think they discussed it. IMO:

Aaron wants to be available less offseason less than Kirk was at the mini camps and Training Camp.

So you are looking at a situation worse than Darnold and Favre even. Even though there was a declining chance as the season wore on that Darnold was coming back he was always all in at everything important for the team and building chemistry.

I doubt the Jets felt that way over the last couple years and the Packers 3-5 prior. He is always using the retirement card it seems even in the middle of the season when they wanted him around more.

They said it to Danny Dimes and after that they felt the same about Aaron.....JJ and Darnold wanted to be here and were all in; if we sign Aaron he isn't really either.....

I really doubt there was any serious consideration given to signing Rodgers.

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RE: 2025 Vikings Free Agency - 3/20/2025 7:12:03 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

quote:

ORIGINAL: TJSweens

quote:

ORIGINAL: stfrank

quote:

ORIGINAL: David Levine

I'm not normally a Paul Allen guy, but he went hard at Alec Lewis!

https://www.si.com/nfl/vikings/news/clashing-sources-paul-allen-and-alec-lewis-debate-vikings-interest-in-aaron-rodgers-01jpr0d66w05

PA is so full of himself I rarely pay attention to anything he has to say. He has tendency to ramble for 5-10 minutes to lead into his personal opinion just make it sound very important.

I'm not PA fan either, but like him or not, he is extremely well plugged in where the Vikings are concerned. My speculation; Erin's agent contacted the Vikings. Someone in the FO said "hey we should at least consider this"...maybe they even had Brez mock up how to fit that contract in the payroll...told KOC, it's up to you...KOC said thanks, but no thanks.


I think there is more to it even. I truly think they discussed it. IMO:

Aaron wants to be available less offseason less than Kirk was at the mini camps and Training Camp.

So you are looking at a situation worse than Darnold and Favre even. Even though there was a declining chance as the season wore on that Darnold was coming back he was always all in at everything important for the team and building chemistry.

I doubt the Jets felt that way over the last couple years and the Packers 3-5 prior. He is always using the retirement card it seems even in the middle of the season when they wanted him around more.

They said it to Danny Dimes and after that they felt the same about Aaron.....JJ and Darnold wanted to be here and were all in; if we sign Aaron he isn't really either.....

I really doubt there was any serious consideration given to signing Rodgers.

Seems pretty clear we'll never know for sure
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RE: 2025 Vikings Free Agency - 3/21/2025 8:03:40 AM   
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In his first game with the Boilermakers, he racked up 313 all-purpose yards and set a new program record. The previous had been set by Otis Armstrong (312) in 1972. That game included a 76-yard rushing touchdown. He was later named the Big Ten Co-Freshman of the Week.

313 all-purpose yards and he only gets the Co-Freshman of the week award? Who was the other guy!?!?
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RE: 2025 Vikings Free Agency - 3/21/2025 9:06:52 AM   
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Oh.. AAron rogers can suck my dick and gompound sand.. QBls from that paint thinner drinking franchise, are all ****ed up people. ..Favrey was a thief and a con man and rogers is a puxxy with a set of stupid beliefs, that rivals Phildo..

So hard pass. And the ” chatter” that he was being considered as an option, is corner angry masterbation by morons..
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RE: 2025 Vikings Free Agency - 3/21/2025 12:04:53 PM   
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Well ... at this point ... the back-up QB position is screaming for a resolution.

It has to be something that is not available yet.

Sitting and waiting for prices to come down is not their MO in free agency for an important position. No matter how much they believe in JJM.

It's not Kirk ... regardless of the 10M bonus, even if he does get released ... he's not looking for a 'pure' backup position ... nor is he going to pass up the best contract he can get, regardless of the guaranteed riches he's gouging ATL for. [to be fair – their stupidity / their fault]

That's not Kirko's MO.

Its not Rogers, a complete non-collaborator who will retire before signing as a back-up.

We had and still have money for any number of the QBs already signed.

So we're waiting patiently, biding our time like a spider.

Has to be a trade of some kind or someone not yet released that we are convinced will be released.

I suppose we could be waiting for a vet like Wilson to exhaust all starting opportunities before buckling under to a one year deal ... but not sure that would create the right mindset for your QB room.

Something unforeseen is going on. We're just too deliberate to put off this kind of thing indefinitely.

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RE: 2025 Vikings Free Agency - 3/21/2025 1:22:06 PM   
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Well ... at this point ... the back-up QB position is screaming for a resolution.

It has to be something that is not available yet.

Sitting and waiting for prices to come down is not their MO in free agency for an important position. No matter how much they believe in JJM.

It's not Kirk ... regardless of the 10M bonus, even if he does get released ... he's not looking for a 'pure' backup position ... nor is he going to pass up the best contract he can get, regardless of the guaranteed riches he's gouging ATL for. [to be fair – their stupidity / their fault]

That's not Kirko's MO.

Its not Rogers, a complete non-collaborator who will retire before signing as a back-up.

We had and still have money for any number of the QBs already signed.

So we're waiting patiently, biding our time like a spider.

Has to be a trade of some kind or someone not yet released that we are convinced will be released.

I suppose we could be waiting for a vet like Wilson to exhaust all starting opportunities before buckling under to a one year deal ... but not sure that would create the right mindset for your QB room.

Something unforeseen is going on. We're just too deliberate to put off this kind of thing indefinitely.

Just read an article on Titan's QB Will Levis. Sounds like he will be available for trade. Advantage would be he's still on his rookie contract for 2 years at about 2 million+ a year. A huge savings over other better than average backup QB contracts. Sounds like he could be had for a six round pick, so if he did develop well under the QB whisperer he could be worth something in the future. Unlike Darnold we'd have him for at least 2 years on his rookie contract and could cash in on him if he started to look good.

< Message edited by nfrosty -- 3/21/2025 2:17:45 PM >
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RE: 2025 Vikings Free Agency - 3/21/2025 2:16:15 PM   
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ORIGINAL: nfrosty

quote:

ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

Well ... at this point ... the back-up QB position is screaming for a resolution.

It has to be something that is not available yet.

Sitting and waiting for prices to come down is not their MO in free agency for an important position. No matter how much they believe in JJM.

It's not Kirk ... regardless of the 10M bonus, even if he does get released ... he's not looking for a 'pure' backup position ... nor is he going to pass up the best contract he can get, regardless of the guaranteed riches he's gouging ATL for. [to be fair – their stupidity / their fault]

That's not Kirko's MO.

Its not Rogers, a complete non-collaborator who will retire before signing as a back-up.

We had and still have money for any number of the QBs already signed.

So we're waiting patiently, biding our time like a spider.

Has to be a trade of some kind or someone not yet released that we are convinced will be released.

I suppose we could be waiting for a vet like Wilson to exhaust all starting opportunities before buckling under to a one year deal ... but not sure that would create the right mindset for your QB room.

Something unforeseen is going on. We're just too deliberate to put off this kind of thing indefinitely.

Just read an article on Titan's QB Will Levis. Sounds like he will be available for trade. Advantage would be he's still on his rookie contract for 2 years at about 2 million+ a year. A huge savings over other better than average backup QB contracts. So if he did develop well in Minnesota he could be worth something in the future. Unlike Darnold we'd have him for at least 2 years on his rookie contract and could cash in on him if he started to look good.


O’Connell hated Levis in that draft. I doubt he's done anything to change his mind.
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RE: 2025 Vikings Free Agency - 3/21/2025 2:42:37 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: David Levine

quote:

ORIGINAL: nfrosty

quote:

ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

Well ... at this point ... the back-up QB position is screaming for a resolution.

It has to be something that is not available yet.

Sitting and waiting for prices to come down is not their MO in free agency for an important position. No matter how much they believe in JJM.

It's not Kirk ... regardless of the 10M bonus, even if he does get released ... he's not looking for a 'pure' backup position ... nor is he going to pass up the best contract he can get, regardless of the guaranteed riches he's gouging ATL for. [to be fair – their stupidity / their fault]

That's not Kirko's MO.

Its not Rogers, a complete non-collaborator who will retire before signing as a back-up.

We had and still have money for any number of the QBs already signed.

So we're waiting patiently, biding our time like a spider.

Has to be a trade of some kind or someone not yet released that we are convinced will be released.

I suppose we could be waiting for a vet like Wilson to exhaust all starting opportunities before buckling under to a one year deal ... but not sure that would create the right mindset for your QB room.

Something unforeseen is going on. We're just too deliberate to put off this kind of thing indefinitely.

Just read an article on Titan's QB Will Levis. Sounds like he will be available for trade. Advantage would be he's still on his rookie contract for 2 years at about 2 million+ a year. A huge savings over other better than average backup QB contracts. So if he did develop well in Minnesota he could be worth something in the future. Unlike Darnold we'd have him for at least 2 years on his rookie contract and could cash in on him if he started to look good.


O’Connell hated Levis in that draft. I doubt he's done anything to change his mind.

I thought genuine non-starter backups like Rush or Minshew, etc would have been fine ... just to move on from the discussion. But this has dawdled along and now transformed backup talk into something mysterious and significant.

Which I'm contributing to. But more than who it is, I'd like to move on with whoever that may be.

Whoever that is won't be as interesting as the mystery of who that is.
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RE: 2025 Vikings Free Agency - 3/21/2025 6:54:14 PM   
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Sources: The #Vikings have had discussions with former #Titans QB Ryan Tannehill about a potential deal. Talks are ongoing and nothing is imminent as of right now, sources tell @NFLonFOX.

Both Tannehill and JJM are represented by Brian Ayrault of WME
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RE: 2025 Vikings Free Agency - 3/22/2025 11:34:51 AM   
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Dianna Russini just can't let it go. She maintains that the Vikings did not say no to Erin Rodgers, they just "tabled discussions for now". She maintains it's just a guess, but her gut says Rodgers will ultimately sign with Vikings.

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RE: 2025 Vikings Free Agency - 3/22/2025 12:14:41 PM   
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ORIGINAL: nfrosty

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

Well ... at this point ... the back-up QB position is screaming for a resolution.

It has to be something that is not available yet.

Sitting and waiting for prices to come down is not their MO in free agency for an important position. No matter how much they believe in JJM.

It's not Kirk ... regardless of the 10M bonus, even if he does get released ... he's not looking for a 'pure' backup position ... nor is he going to pass up the best contract he can get, regardless of the guaranteed riches he's gouging ATL for. [to be fair – their stupidity / their fault]

That's not Kirko's MO.

Its not Rogers, a complete non-collaborator who will retire before signing as a back-up.

We had and still have money for any number of the QBs already signed.

So we're waiting patiently, biding our time like a spider.

Has to be a trade of some kind or someone not yet released that we are convinced will be released.

I suppose we could be waiting for a vet like Wilson to exhaust all starting opportunities before buckling under to a one year deal ... but not sure that would create the right mindset for your QB room.

Something unforeseen is going on. We're just too deliberate to put off this kind of thing indefinitely.

Just read an article on Titan's QB Will Levis. Sounds like he will be available for trade. Advantage would be he's still on his rookie contract for 2 years at about 2 million+ a year. A huge savings over other better than average backup QB contracts. Sounds like he could be had for a six round pick, so if he did develop well under the QB whisperer he could be worth something in the future. Unlike Darnold we'd have him for at least 2 years on his rookie contract and could cash in on him if he started to look good.


Seems like the perfect backup... for the Titans.
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RE: 2025 Vikings Free Agency - 3/22/2025 12:41:51 PM   
Tom Sykes

 

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

quote:

ORIGINAL: nfrosty

quote:

ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

Well ... at this point ... the back-up QB position is screaming for a resolution.

It has to be something that is not available yet.

Sitting and waiting for prices to come down is not their MO in free agency for an important position. No matter how much they believe in JJM.

It's not Kirk ... regardless of the 10M bonus, even if he does get released ... he's not looking for a 'pure' backup position ... nor is he going to pass up the best contract he can get, regardless of the guaranteed riches he's gouging ATL for. [to be fair – their stupidity / their fault]

That's not Kirko's MO.

Its not Rogers, a complete non-collaborator who will retire before signing as a back-up.

We had and still have money for any number of the QBs already signed.

So we're waiting patiently, biding our time like a spider.

Has to be a trade of some kind or someone not yet released that we are convinced will be released.

I suppose we could be waiting for a vet like Wilson to exhaust all starting opportunities before buckling under to a one year deal ... but not sure that would create the right mindset for your QB room.

Something unforeseen is going on. We're just too deliberate to put off this kind of thing indefinitely.

Just read an article on Titan's QB Will Levis. Sounds like he will be available for trade. Advantage would be he's still on his rookie contract for 2 years at about 2 million+ a year. A huge savings over other better than average backup QB contracts. Sounds like he could be had for a six round pick, so if he did develop well under the QB whisperer he could be worth something in the future. Unlike Darnold we'd have him for at least 2 years on his rookie contract and could cash in on him if he started to look good.


Seems like the perfect backup... for the Titans.

I wonder which is more appealing to Kwesi, a player who sat out 2024 because he was ‘too selective,’ or a player who sat out 2024 because his legs got twisted around like an animal balloon.

Probably the latter. Which is why we’re waiting … Tannehill is too freakin’ untarnished. A conundrum.

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RE: 2025 Vikings Free Agency - 3/23/2025 10:12:20 AM   
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I would be fine with Tannehill. All comes down to how much he wants and does he want to be there.

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RE: 2025 Vikings Free Agency - 3/23/2025 11:14:31 AM   
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I would be fine with Tannehill. All comes down to how much he wants and does he want to be there.

I don't have a problem either.

At this point, I'm just happy to dodge the phantom non-existent Rogers and Cousins bullets.

Everyone else still out there is whatever.
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RE: 2025 Vikings Free Agency - 3/23/2025 1:16:58 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

quote:

ORIGINAL: nfrosty

quote:

ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

Well ... at this point ... the back-up QB position is screaming for a resolution.

It has to be something that is not available yet.

Sitting and waiting for prices to come down is not their MO in free agency for an important position. No matter how much they believe in JJM.

It's not Kirk ... regardless of the 10M bonus, even if he does get released ... he's not looking for a 'pure' backup position ... nor is he going to pass up the best contract he can get, regardless of the guaranteed riches he's gouging ATL for. [to be fair – their stupidity / their fault]

That's not Kirko's MO.

Its not Rogers, a complete non-collaborator who will retire before signing as a back-up.

We had and still have money for any number of the QBs already signed.

So we're waiting patiently, biding our time like a spider.

Has to be a trade of some kind or someone not yet released that we are convinced will be released.

I suppose we could be waiting for a vet like Wilson to exhaust all starting opportunities before buckling under to a one year deal ... but not sure that would create the right mindset for your QB room.

Something unforeseen is going on. We're just too deliberate to put off this kind of thing indefinitely.

Just read an article on Titan's QB Will Levis. Sounds like he will be available for trade. Advantage would be he's still on his rookie contract for 2 years at about 2 million+ a year. A huge savings over other better than average backup QB contracts. Sounds like he could be had for a six round pick, so if he did develop well under the QB whisperer he could be worth something in the future. Unlike Darnold we'd have him for at least 2 years on his rookie contract and could cash in on him if he started to look good.


Seems like the perfect backup... for the Titans.

Titans just wreck every QB they draft.

Why couldn't Levis be salvaged through O'Connell's qb rehabilitation program?

Even LaFlour made Malik Willis look serviceable in a few starts last season.

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RE: 2025 Vikings Free Agency - 3/23/2025 1:22:01 PM   
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At some point we need to add a couple qb's. Not sure wth their waiting on.

I think I'd give Houston a call and see if we could send a middling 26 pick for Davis Mills.

Honestly, do we really want to watch a Tannahill or Rypien play?

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RE: 2025 Vikings Free Agency - 3/23/2025 2:07:25 PM   
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At some point we need to add a couple qb's. Not sure wth their waiting on.

I think I'd give Houston a call and see if we could send a middling 26 pick for Davis Mills.

Honestly, do we really want to watch a Tannahill or Rypien play?

Yes on Tannehill.

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RE: 2025 Vikings Free Agency - 3/24/2025 2:50:50 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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At some point we need to add a couple qb's. Not sure wth their waiting on.

I think I'd give Houston a call and see if we could send a middling 26 pick for Davis Mills.

Honestly, do we really want to watch a Tannahill or Rypien play?

Yes on Tannehill.

Screw tannehill. If Ian Rapaport has a clue.

"The Tannehill conversations ... if there was any conversation, it was more like, 'Alright, might you theoretically be available if we need you?' Because Ryan Tannehill sat all last year. I think (he) would probably come back for an opportunity to start for an awesome team and maybe make some decent bridge quarterback money — maybe 10 or 15 (million), something like that," Rapoport said.
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RE: 2025 Vikings Free Agency - 3/24/2025 2:52:50 PM   
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whatever.
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RE: 2025 Vikings Free Agency - 3/24/2025 5:05:19 PM   
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yep
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