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RE: Wild 2025 post mortem, off-season and draft - 9/12/2025 9:54:55 AM

Jeff Jesser

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You gotta imagine it's 1 of 2 things:

1. the term is too long (and I don't blame him one bit)
2. after Leo said "July 1st will be like Christmas" and we didn't bring in shit, he's told them to screw off

I agree on 1- I think 3-4 years is about right

For 2 there wasn't anybody available at the time that would help us, there will be and now we have the cap deal

While I agree with you that there wasn't anyone to sign (they all signed with their teams) the things that I've heard/read is that Leo promised him that they would bring in a true #1 center and that didn't happen.

Just seems odd that he said he loved it in MN and everything about it and turns down that kind of offer. It wasn't a low ball offer of any kind. Largest in history. Logic seems to point to point #1 but it's troubling.

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RE: Wild 2025 post mortem, off-season and draft - 9/12/2025 12:26:31 PM

Jeff Jesser

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So I just listened to a good portion of the Judd Zulgad podcast on Skor North. I don't always agree with their takes but I also don't think it's a pod based on fantasies ect. I think they do a good job of keeping it straight.

One thing that stood out to me as a great point. Apparently Leo said that it wasn't going to be problem the other day at some unveiling (might have been a new arena, I don't recall). Citing that no other team could match the terms. It was then declined and immediately leaked. BG said they didn't leak it so who did? They were guessing that the leak came out so fast it isn't just a matter of term. There was a driving force behind the leak.

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RE: Wild 2025 post mortem, off-season and draft - 9/14/2025 7:34:04 AM

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ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

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ORIGINAL: stfrank

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ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

You gotta imagine it's 1 of 2 things:

1. the term is too long (and I don't blame him one bit)
2. after Leo said "July 1st will be like Christmas" and we didn't bring in shit, he's told them to screw off

I agree on 1- I think 3-4 years is about right

For 2 there wasn't anybody available at the time that would help us, there will be and now we have the cap deal

While I agree with you that there wasn't anyone to sign (they all signed with their teams) the things that I've heard/read is that Leo promised him that they would bring in a true #1 center and that didn't happen.

Just seems odd that he said he loved it in MN and everything about it and turns down that kind of offer. It wasn't a low ball offer of any kind. Largest in history. Logic seems to point to point #1 but it's troubling.

Maybe something as simple as wanting to see how the team looks during training camp?

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RE: Wild 2025 post mortem, off-season and draft - 9/16/2025 8:45:27 PM

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My own hunch. Kaprizov’s agent is just playing hardball. And I don’t blame them. He’s just doing his job. I’d want my agent to do that too. There’s no reason to jump at the first offer, just on principle, no matter what it is. He’s under contract for the year and the Wild will have a ton of cap space starting next year. His agent probably told him “Look, if they’re willing to pay $16 million they’re willing to pay $17 million. Let’s sit tight for a while.”

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RE: Wild 2025 post mortem, off-season and draft - 9/17/2025 7:54:24 AM

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My own hunch. Kaprizov’s agent is just playing hardball. And I don’t blame them. He’s just doing his job. I’d want my agent to do that too. There’s no reason to jump at the first offer, just on principle, no matter what it is. He’s under contract for the year and the Wild will have a ton of cap space starting next year. His agent probably told him “Look, if they’re willing to pay $16 million they’re willing to pay $17 million. Let’s sit tight for a while.”

I think his agent wants to wait until McDavid signs to let him set the bar.

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RE: Wild 2025 post mortem, off-season and draft - 9/17/2025 9:01:01 AM

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ORIGINAL: Karl Juhnke

My own hunch. Kaprizov’s agent is just playing hardball. And I don’t blame them. He’s just doing his job. I’d want my agent to do that too. There’s no reason to jump at the first offer, just on principle, no matter what it is. He’s under contract for the year and the Wild will have a ton of cap space starting next year. His agent probably told him “Look, if they’re willing to pay $16 million they’re willing to pay $17 million. Let’s sit tight for a while.”

I think his agent wants to wait until McDavid signs to let him set the bar.

And McDavid and Eichel are waiting for Kaprizov to set the bar.

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RE: Wild 2025 post mortem, off-season and draft - 9/17/2025 9:18:48 AM

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With McDavid and Eichel playing center and Kaprizov playing wing, they would have loved him accepting a richest contract in history. They could immediately go higher. It won't work the other way for Kaprizov. He is unlikely to get what the other two get. Probably why he wants 4 years, which is fine with me. When the Wild sign players to 7 to 9 year deals, they always regret it.

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RE: Wild 2025 post mortem, off-season and draft - 9/17/2025 10:06:44 AM

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Yeap, that's my guess too. It's term and I don't blame him. There's nothing in this franchises history that says "trust us for 8 years of your career".

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RE: Wild 2025 post mortem, off-season and draft - 9/17/2025 10:48:25 AM

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Yeap, that's my guess too. It's term and I don't blame him. There's nothing in this franchises history that says "trust us for 8 years of your career".

We also haven't had a player who has proven worth that kind of term commitment. Spurgeon's is every bit the albatross that Suter and Parise were.

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