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ronhextall -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/31/2021 9:31:49 AM)

Patriots know how to deal with players not vaccinated.




McMurfy -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/31/2021 9:37:10 AM)

Tyrell Crosby cut by the Lions. Would offer some depth and improvement.




Trekgeekscott -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/31/2021 9:48:03 AM)

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Mond isn't getting the benefit of Theilen and JJ, which could change EVERYTHING.


I wish the NFL would have partnered with the XFL or one of the other leagues (that failed) and had a system in place for NFL teams to allocate some players.

Kurt Warner is a HOF QB only because he got a chance to develop/prove himself in Arena league and NFL Europe.



i like what I've seen from mond...with the first team he'll develop just fine...he's got a quick release and a rifle of an arm, gets rid of the ball quickly, and doesn't take sacks...also, he throws to, and hits moving targets....

if cousins doesn't produce this season let's figure out a way to trade him and move on with mond....

sign fitzgerald
sign sendejo
sign kj wright (i wanted this guy a couple of years ago)

I don’t see it, yet. Just because Mond has some draftable qualities … there’s a long way to go to figure out if he is starting caliber, much less a good starter. At the very least, one more offseason - TC - preseason just to get a little better handle on him. Unless he’s pressed into service this season because of injury … he hasn’t shown nearly enough to throw the franchise at him next year. No way.

Would love to sign Wright but unless Barr is a Hunter (or Barr) situation from last year unfolding … can’t see us spending enough to keep him from rejoining the Seahawks.


Put Mond in with some 1st teamers...I remember seeing Dante sit the first year and show zilch....teamed him up with CC and Moss; no issues.

You mean the Daunte picked #11 in the first round of the draft who started year 2 for offensive minded coach Dennis Green with 2 HOF WRs RB Smith and an OL that had Steussie Birk Dixon Stringer?

Insert Mond next year because Culpepper was good in his second year? I'm sure the next comparison will be 3rd rounder Russell Wilson ... if he can do it Mond can.

It doesn't have anything to do with how Mond plays or practices or the specific situation he'd be in?

What are the chances that a 3rd rounder is going to be any good ... much less usurp an above avg QB that, unfortunately, the regime has tied the financial stability of the franchise and their jobs to?

I truly hope Mond defies the odds but he has to do that on merit, not just because lightning has struck there before.


Mond is Tarvaris Jackson and anyone who doesn't see that is delusional...which is not really a surprise here. Wasted pick taking a QB anywhere after the first round. There's a reason why Kellen Mond was taken in the third. The move was to trade up to take Justin Fields...that's what serious teams do when they need a QB.



Ok listen up all you trolls.

Wasted pick taking a QB After the first round?

Tom Brady?
Russell Wilson?

Both are pretty good and didn't get taken in the first round.

I can list a shitload of QBs that have been taken in the first round that didn't quite pan out too...


Where he was picked matters not. How he is developed is all that matters.


Well, you know, he is black.


So is Russell Wilson.




Murph -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/31/2021 9:49:33 AM)

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ORIGINAL: ronhextall

Patriots know how to deal with players not vaccinated.


Didn't he have covid? Still not vaxed?

If that's really the case....

No wonder he was cut.

Never mind.




David F. -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/31/2021 9:53:45 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Murph

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ORIGINAL: ronhextall

Patriots know how to deal with players not vaccinated.


Didn't he have covid? Still not vaxed?

If that's really the case....

No wonder he was cut.

Never mind.


If he's not vaxxed then he doesn't help us at all. All our QBs are unvaxxed so if one gets exposed they all sit out for five days. If any contract covid they sit out ten days. Hopefully one of them either got vaxxed recently or will soon.




Jeff Allen -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/31/2021 10:42:44 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

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ORIGINAL: ronhextall

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ORIGINAL: marty

Mond isn't getting the benefit of Theilen and JJ, which could change EVERYTHING.


I wish the NFL would have partnered with the XFL or one of the other leagues (that failed) and had a system in place for NFL teams to allocate some players.

Kurt Warner is a HOF QB only because he got a chance to develop/prove himself in Arena league and NFL Europe.



i like what I've seen from mond...with the first team he'll develop just fine...he's got a quick release and a rifle of an arm, gets rid of the ball quickly, and doesn't take sacks...also, he throws to, and hits moving targets....

if cousins doesn't produce this season let's figure out a way to trade him and move on with mond....

sign fitzgerald
sign sendejo
sign kj wright (i wanted this guy a couple of years ago)

I don’t see it, yet. Just because Mond has some draftable qualities … there’s a long way to go to figure out if he is starting caliber, much less a good starter. At the very least, one more offseason - TC - preseason just to get a little better handle on him. Unless he’s pressed into service this season because of injury … he hasn’t shown nearly enough to throw the franchise at him next year. No way.

Would love to sign Wright but unless Barr is a Hunter (or Barr) situation from last year unfolding … can’t see us spending enough to keep him from rejoining the Seahawks.


Put Mond in with some 1st teamers...I remember seeing Dante sit the first year and show zilch....teamed him up with CC and Moss; no issues.

You mean the Daunte picked #11 in the first round of the draft who started year 2 for offensive minded coach Dennis Green with 2 HOF WRs RB Smith and an OL that had Steussie Birk Dixon Stringer?

Insert Mond next year because Culpepper was good in his second year? I'm sure the next comparison will be 3rd rounder Russell Wilson ... if he can do it Mond can.

It doesn't have anything to do with how Mond plays or practices or the specific situation he'd be in?

What are the chances that a 3rd rounder is going to be any good ... much less usurp an above avg QB that, unfortunately, the regime has tied the financial stability of the franchise and their jobs to?

I truly hope Mond defies the odds but he has to do that on merit, not just because lightning has struck there before.


Mond is Tarvaris Jackson and anyone who doesn't see that is delusional...which is not really a surprise here. Wasted pick taking a QB anywhere after the first round. There's a reason why Kellen Mond was taken in the third. The move was to trade up to take Justin Fields...that's what serious teams do when they need a QB.



Ok listen up all you trolls.

Wasted pick taking a QB After the first round?

Tom Brady?
Russell Wilson?

Both are pretty good and didn't get taken in the first round.

I can list a shitload of QBs that have been taken in the first round that didn't quite pan out too...


Where he was picked matters not. How he is developed is all that matters.


Russell Wilson...Tom Brady...what a lazy argument. That's two QB's in 20+ years. Over that time there have been over 100 QB's taken after the first round. So...you give Mond a 2% chance of making it. Yippee!!!! I repeat...a real team trades up to get Justin Fields. That 2% chance turns into a 50-60% chance. Can you see which number is higher?




Ricky J -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/31/2021 10:48:26 AM)

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: Murph

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ORIGINAL: ronhextall

Patriots know how to deal with players not vaccinated.


Didn't he have covid? Still not vaxed?

If that's really the case....

No wonder he was cut.

Never mind.


If he's not vaxxed then he doesn't help us at all. All our QBs are unvaxxed so if one gets exposed they all sit out for five days. If any contract covid they sit out ten days. Hopefully one of them either got vaxxed recently or will soon.

He isn't helping at all anyway. He wasn't cut bc of vaxxed stance - but boy if it fits the narrative - he was cut bc he sucks!




Tom Sykes -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/31/2021 10:53:34 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

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ORIGINAL: ronhextall

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ORIGINAL: marty

Mond isn't getting the benefit of Theilen and JJ, which could change EVERYTHING.


I wish the NFL would have partnered with the XFL or one of the other leagues (that failed) and had a system in place for NFL teams to allocate some players.

Kurt Warner is a HOF QB only because he got a chance to develop/prove himself in Arena league and NFL Europe.



i like what I've seen from mond...with the first team he'll develop just fine...he's got a quick release and a rifle of an arm, gets rid of the ball quickly, and doesn't take sacks...also, he throws to, and hits moving targets....

if cousins doesn't produce this season let's figure out a way to trade him and move on with mond....

sign fitzgerald
sign sendejo
sign kj wright (i wanted this guy a couple of years ago)

I don’t see it, yet. Just because Mond has some draftable qualities … there’s a long way to go to figure out if he is starting caliber, much less a good starter. At the very least, one more offseason - TC - preseason just to get a little better handle on him. Unless he’s pressed into service this season because of injury … he hasn’t shown nearly enough to throw the franchise at him next year. No way.

Would love to sign Wright but unless Barr is a Hunter (or Barr) situation from last year unfolding … can’t see us spending enough to keep him from rejoining the Seahawks.


Put Mond in with some 1st teamers...I remember seeing Dante sit the first year and show zilch....teamed him up with CC and Moss; no issues.

You mean the Daunte picked #11 in the first round of the draft who started year 2 for offensive minded coach Dennis Green with 2 HOF WRs RB Smith and an OL that had Steussie Birk Dixon Stringer?

Insert Mond next year because Culpepper was good in his second year? I'm sure the next comparison will be 3rd rounder Russell Wilson ... if he can do it Mond can.

It doesn't have anything to do with how Mond plays or practices or the specific situation he'd be in?

What are the chances that a 3rd rounder is going to be any good ... much less usurp an above avg QB that, unfortunately, the regime has tied the financial stability of the franchise and their jobs to?

I truly hope Mond defies the odds but he has to do that on merit, not just because lightning has struck there before.


Mond is Tarvaris Jackson and anyone who doesn't see that is delusional...which is not really a surprise here. Wasted pick taking a QB anywhere after the first round. There's a reason why Kellen Mond was taken in the third. The move was to trade up to take Justin Fields...that's what serious teams do when they need a QB.



Ok listen up all you trolls.

Wasted pick taking a QB After the first round?

Tom Brady?
Russell Wilson?

Both are pretty good and didn't get taken in the first round.

I can list a shitload of QBs that have been taken in the first round that didn't quite pan out too...


Where he was picked matters not. How he is developed is all that matters.


Russell Wilson...Tom Brady...what a lazy argument. That's two QB's in 20+ years. Over that time there have been over 100 QB's taken after the first round. So...you give Mond a 2% chance of making it. Yippee!!!! I repeat...a real team trades up to get Justin Fields. That 2% chance turns into a 50-60% chance. Can you see which number is higher?

I'd like to say arguing that something can't happen that has already happened multiple times ... is the laziest of all arguments.

But its just willful stupidity. Get a clue.




Tom Sykes -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/31/2021 11:06:40 AM)

There is no way we would fllip from pure non-starters as a back-up rule to borderline starters like Cam Newton ... its just not in Spielman's DNA.

Besides, I doubt Newton is ready to settle into a pure back-up situation.

Has any QB in the league missed fewer starts in the last few years than Cousins? Not a plumb job for someone with a superman-sized ego like Newton.




David Levine -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/31/2021 11:12:50 AM)

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There is no way we would fllip from pure non-starters as a back-up rule to borderline starters like Cam Newton ... its just not in Spielman's DNA.

Besides, I doubt Newton is ready to settle into a pure back-up situation.

Has any QB in the league missed fewer starts in the last few years than Cousins? Not a plumb job for someone with a superman-sized ego like Newton.


I also think Zimmer is afraid of a QB controversy.




Tom Sykes -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/31/2021 11:14:45 AM)

I'd be interested for a #3 TE (or 2-3 until Irv comes back)


Tom Pelissero
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A surprise: The #Bills are releasing TE Jacob Hollister, per source.
He had 66 catches and six TDs over the past two seasons in Seattle. With so many teams looking for help at the position, Hollister should have options.




Tom Sykes -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/31/2021 11:17:49 AM)

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

There is no way we would fllip from pure non-starters as a back-up rule to borderline starters like Cam Newton ... its just not in Spielman's DNA.

Besides, I doubt Newton is ready to settle into a pure back-up situation.

Has any QB in the league missed fewer starts in the last few years than Cousins? Not a plumb job for someone with a superman-sized ego like Newton.


I also think Zimmer is afraid of a QB controversy.

Very true.




Daniel Lee Young -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/31/2021 12:44:24 PM)

CBS sports list of cuts so far…

More to come..

Come On, cut Dozier!

Minnesota Vikings
QB Danny Etling
RB Ito Smith
WR Warren Jackson
WR Blake Proehl
OT Evin Ksiezarczyk
C Cohl Cabral
DE Jordan Brailford
DT Zeandae Johnson
DT Jordon Scott
LB Christian Elliss
CB Amari Henderson
CB Dylan Mabin
K Riley Patterson
LS Turner Bernard




David F. -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/31/2021 12:54:14 PM)

Dozier might have saved himself with his last couple of games being pretty good.




ronhextall -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/31/2021 12:58:18 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: Murph

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ORIGINAL: ronhextall

Patriots know how to deal with players not vaccinated.


Didn't he have covid? Still not vaxed?

If that's really the case....

No wonder he was cut.

Never mind.


If he's not vaxxed then he doesn't help us at all. All our QBs are unvaxxed so if one gets exposed they all sit out for five days. If any contract covid they sit out ten days. Hopefully one of them either got vaxxed recently or will soon.

He isn't helping at all anyway. He wasn't cut bc of vaxxed stance - but boy if it fits the narrative - he was cut bc he sucks!

It doesn't help and IMO made the decision easier. But we will never know the facts.




Murph -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/31/2021 1:26:47 PM)

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ORIGINAL: ronhextall

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: Murph

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ORIGINAL: ronhextall

Patriots know how to deal with players not vaccinated.


Didn't he have covid? Still not vaxed?

If that's really the case....

No wonder he was cut.

Never mind.


If he's not vaxxed then he doesn't help us at all. All our QBs are unvaxxed so if one gets exposed they all sit out for five days. If any contract covid they sit out ten days. Hopefully one of them either got vaxxed recently or will soon.

He isn't helping at all anyway. He wasn't cut bc of vaxxed stance - but boy if it fits the narrative - he was cut bc he sucks!

It doesn't help and IMO made the decision easier. But we will never know the facts.


I'd give Denver a call about Lock for a mid to later pick; if he's vaccinated.




thebigo -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/31/2021 1:31:12 PM)

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ORIGINAL: David F.

Dozier might have saved himself with his last couple of games being pretty good.

Maybe he trained in power ballet this off season.




Brad H -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/31/2021 1:33:01 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Murph

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ORIGINAL: ronhextall

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: Murph

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ORIGINAL: ronhextall

Patriots know how to deal with players not vaccinated.


Didn't he have covid? Still not vaxed?

If that's really the case....

No wonder he was cut.

Never mind.


If he's not vaxxed then he doesn't help us at all. All our QBs are unvaxxed so if one gets exposed they all sit out for five days. If any contract covid they sit out ten days. Hopefully one of them either got vaxxed recently or will soon.

He isn't helping at all anyway. He wasn't cut bc of vaxxed stance - but boy if it fits the narrative - he was cut bc he sucks!

It doesn't help and IMO made the decision easier. But we will never know the facts.


I'd give Denver a call about Lock for a mid to later pick; if he's vaccinated.

Lock is awful. Maybe the worst starting QB in the league last season.




Phil Riewer -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/31/2021 1:44:00 PM)

Darren Wolfson
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OL Kyle Hinton is another player let go. #Vikings


Darren Wolfson
@DWolfsonKSTP
DL Hercules Mata'afa is one of the #Vikings just released, I hear.




David Levine -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/31/2021 2:10:36 PM)

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ORIGINAL: David F.

Dozier might have saved himself with his last couple of games being pretty good.


Or not..

Ben Goessling@GoesslingStrib
5m
#Vikings are releasing Jake Browning and Dakota Dozier, sources say. They’re hoping to get both back to the practice squad.




TJSweens -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/31/2021 2:21:47 PM)

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: David F.

Dozier might have saved himself with his last couple of games being pretty good.


Or not..

Ben Goessling@GoesslingStrib
5m
#Vikings are releasing Jake Browning and Dakota Dozier, sources say. They’re hoping to get both back to the practice squad.

Is Dozier eligible for the practice squad?




Murph -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/31/2021 2:25:25 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Murph

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ORIGINAL: ronhextall

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: Murph

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ORIGINAL: ronhextall

Patriots know how to deal with players not vaccinated.


Didn't he have covid? Still not vaxed?

If that's really the case....

No wonder he was cut.

Never mind.


If he's not vaxxed then he doesn't help us at all. All our QBs are unvaxxed so if one gets exposed they all sit out for five days. If any contract covid they sit out ten days. Hopefully one of them either got vaxxed recently or will soon.

He isn't helping at all anyway. He wasn't cut bc of vaxxed stance - but boy if it fits the narrative - he was cut bc he sucks!

It doesn't help and IMO made the decision easier. But we will never know the facts.


I'd give Denver a call about Lock for a mid to later pick; if he's vaccinated.

Lock is awful. Maybe the worst starting QB in the league last season.


Better than Browning by a long shot and I don't want Mond thrown to the wolves before he's ready and get David Carr syndrome.




Daniel Lee Young -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/31/2021 2:32:04 PM)

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: David F.

Dozier might have saved himself with his last couple of games being pretty good.


Or not..

Ben Goessling@GoesslingStrib
5m
#Vikings are releasing Jake Browning and Dakota Dozier, sources say. They’re hoping to get both back to the practice squad.



!!![sm=party0023.gif]!!!




twinsfan -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/31/2021 2:32:56 PM)

Irv Smith is another in a long line of Spielman high draft pick busts.




Daniel Lee Young -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/31/2021 2:33:19 PM)

2 terrible at best players cut…

Best day yet…

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