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Richard Neussendorfer -> RE: General Vikes Talk (11/14/2022 10:56:30 AM)
This damn team definitely has pure guts! I just wish we could get a game where they don't meander about for 2 quarters.

Mark Anderson -> RE: General Vikes Talk (11/14/2022 11:00:23 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer quote: ORIGINAL: Todd M It looked very clear to me Cousins was stuffed. Not sure what you're seeing if you think differently. I agree. Cousins doesn't seem like a good qb sneak guy. So many plays that were crucial. The Dalvin drop before the sneak looked like a TD. Just had to beat one guy from 2 yard line.

Phil Riewer -> RE: General Vikes Talk (11/14/2022 11:09:20 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lars The GB/DAL game was gross. I wanted them to both lose! Puke Go Pack Go Puke Go Pack Go. Watson [:-]

Phil Riewer -> RE: General Vikes Talk (11/14/2022 11:12:10 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson quote: ORIGINAL: Todd M It looked very clear to me Cousins was stuffed. Not sure what you're seeing if you think differently. Usually we get a camera angle right down the goal line and you can tell if ball is touching line or not. Maybe JJ was in the way of that camera because he came running into the picture from that side. You know how easy it would be to put Geo Trackers on the ball (each end) and use that in the stadium (first down markers and goal line)....(then you don't need camera angles except if a knee or elbow touches). Same thing in baseball. Geo Track the basball and every uniform, the shoulders and knees of the uniform. and the plate.

David Levine -> RE: General Vikes Talk (11/14/2022 11:23:14 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer quote: ORIGINAL: kgdabom quote: ORIGINAL: marty I didn't realize this: the Vikings have struck a deal with the NFL. The Vikings' opposition is allowed 4 no calls of pass interference for the 1st 4 quarters, and then the Vikings get a free no call of PI, to be used either late in the game, or in OT. Yep, but it was more like 4 per quarter for the first 4 quarters. Then we got one I forgot if it was during the Bills FG drive or in OT. the commentators kept saying 'they're letting them play' - but they sure didn't let hockenson play when he was called in the endzone - i thought that was a bs call, too.... I thought the Hock call was correct - and he probably saved an INT by committing the penalty.

David Levine -> RE: General Vikes Talk (11/14/2022 11:24:03 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Todd M It looked very clear to me Cousins was stuffed. Not sure what you're seeing if you think differently. I thought so too. There was one angle where it looked like the ball was a clear half yard short when he was down.

David Levine -> RE: General Vikes Talk (11/14/2022 11:24:56 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer quote: ORIGINAL: Todd M It looked very clear to me Cousins was stuffed. Not sure what you're seeing if you think differently. I agree. Cousins doesn't seem like a good qb sneak guy. I think more than anything Brabury isn't a good "sneak center". He's not going to win the push at the LoS ever.

Richard Neussendorfer -> RE: General Vikes Talk (11/14/2022 11:25:53 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: David Levine quote: ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer quote: ORIGINAL: kgdabom quote: ORIGINAL: marty I didn't realize this: the Vikings have struck a deal with the NFL. The Vikings' opposition is allowed 4 no calls of pass interference for the 1st 4 quarters, and then the Vikings get a free no call of PI, to be used either late in the game, or in OT. Yep, but it was more like 4 per quarter for the first 4 quarters. Then we got one I forgot if it was during the Bills FG drive or in OT. No doubt that was correct! He was trying to interfere! I didn't like how he was held down on another similar pass though. the commentators kept saying 'they're letting them play' - but they sure didn't let hockenson play when he was called in the endzone - i thought that was a bs call, too.... I thought the Hock call was correct - and he probably saved an INT by committing the penalty.

stfrank -> RE: General Vikes Talk (11/14/2022 11:25:54 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: David Levine quote: ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer quote: ORIGINAL: kgdabom quote: ORIGINAL: marty I didn't realize this: the Vikings have struck a deal with the NFL. The Vikings' opposition is allowed 4 no calls of pass interference for the 1st 4 quarters, and then the Vikings get a free no call of PI, to be used either late in the game, or in OT. Yep, but it was more like 4 per quarter for the first 4 quarters. Then we got one I forgot if it was during the Bills FG drive or in OT. the commentators kept saying 'they're letting them play' - but they sure didn't let hockenson play when he was called in the endzone - i thought that was a bs call, too.... I thought the Hock call was correct - and he probably saved an INT by committing the penalty. I had no problem with that call either. The problem I had was JJ being mugged and the CB covering him having a handful of shirt on every play without even an illegal contact call.....

Ricky J -> RE: General Vikes Talk (11/14/2022 11:34:47 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson quote: ORIGINAL: Ricky J quote: ORIGINAL: kgdabom quote: ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer quote: ORIGINAL: Ricky J quote: ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer quote: ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer Bercich was looking at film and noticed that the Bills had 12 guys on defense in OT when the Vikings were 1st down at the 2. They probably looked real fast on that play o'connell mentioned a play where they had 12 men during his presser.... Isn't that a reviewable call, or used to be? Seems to me they reviewed it against us in the NFCCG v. NO and I've seen a few w/ GB Hard to review when it wasn't caught until after next play. Seeing it live I was pretty sure he didn't catch it. The NFL should have had somebody see that too. There was two officials on the sidelines front and back looking right at it. It's possible it looked good from both angles but not probable to wear a look wouldn't of been warrented, imo The clock was stopped. It wasn't like the replay officials would have been stopping the clock. The Replay officials have one job in these situations. If it's a catch, no harm making sure. Officials who make egregious mistakes need to be fined. Suspended for a week. There are judgement calls that are just part of the game. This was a blatant error by people in a booth with all kinds of angles to look at. I think they could have buzzed down for 12 men also. Huge error - I can't say I disagree with you, either

Ricky J -> RE: General Vikes Talk (11/14/2022 11:36:25 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: David Levine quote: ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer quote: ORIGINAL: Todd M It looked very clear to me Cousins was stuffed. Not sure what you're seeing if you think differently. I agree. Cousins doesn't seem like a good qb sneak guy. I think more than anything Brabury isn't a good "sneak center". He's not going to win the push at the LoS ever. Man, and Im a sneak guy, too. Safe, straight ahead, highly successful - or should be

Bill Johanesen -> RE: General Vikes Talk (11/14/2022 11:38:22 AM)
Hock was essentially the defender on that EZ pass and he interfered. Cousins looked pretty clearly to be down (his humerus so elbow-shoulder) and the ball could be seen behind the white line. Holding on both sides, it's just that there was less of it on our side because Minny defenders were not close to the receivers. Booth was thrown into the fire and was burned.

Ricky J -> RE: General Vikes Talk (11/14/2022 11:39:16 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer quote: ORIGINAL: Lars The GB/DAL game was gross. I wanted them to both lose! Puke Go Pack Go Puke Go Pack Go. Watson [:-] No question for me on this one. I actually won a 2 leg parley with GB and Det. Too bad I didn't have the stones to lay more than a couple bucks

Bill Johanesen -> RE: General Vikes Talk (11/14/2022 11:41:06 AM)
And KOC should make it job #1 to work on whatever to ensure the damn ball is snapped before the play clock runs out. He could have used a challenge with that 19 yard sideline pass that (I think) Davis did not catch.

Ricky J -> RE: General Vikes Talk (11/14/2022 11:48:10 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen And KOC should make it job #1 to work on whatever to ensure the damn ball is snapped before the play clock runs out. He could have used a challenge with that 19 yard sideline pass that (I think) Davis did not catch. Can a team review that under 2 min. What's the rule on that now? That used to be a time when a TO was called to give replay a min to look again

drviking -> RE: General Vikes Talk (11/14/2022 11:49:25 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen Game of the Year Catch of the Year (longer) Pepsi Game of the Year And FedEx Catch of the Year (longer) Your post is a waste of everyone's time, lest anybody have any fun with success [&o]

HL OSWALD -> RE: General Vikes Talk (11/14/2022 11:54:41 AM)
Game Ball to Greg Joseph... I said this live on game day thread as it happened... Missing the PAT forced Vikes to play much more aggressive, and lead to the crazy ending. Plus he then made the game winner from same spot on field... ----- NOW today go out and find a kicker that can make his kicks, he is a liability in playoffs

Todd M -> RE: General Vikes Talk (11/14/2022 11:55:42 AM)
Under 2 minutes and OT reviews can only come from officials. They blew it big time. We overcame bad officiating. Period

bstinger -> RE: General Vikes Talk (11/14/2022 11:56:13 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: David Levine quote: ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer quote: ORIGINAL: kgdabom quote: ORIGINAL: marty I didn't realize this: the Vikings have struck a deal with the NFL. The Vikings' opposition is allowed 4 no calls of pass interference for the 1st 4 quarters, and then the Vikings get a free no call of PI, to be used either late in the game, or in OT. Yep, but it was more like 4 per quarter for the first 4 quarters. Then we got one I forgot if it was during the Bills FG drive or in OT. the commentators kept saying 'they're letting them play' - but they sure didn't let hockenson play when he was called in the endzone - i thought that was a bs call, too.... I thought the Hock call was correct - and he probably saved an INT by committing the penalty. Ya, I didn't have a problem with the PI on Hawk. I did have a problem with all the jersey grabbing the bills got away with including the play right after the PI.

Ricky J -> RE: General Vikes Talk (11/14/2022 11:58:47 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: HL OSWALD Game Ball to Greg Joseph... I said this live on game day thread as it happened... Missing the PAT forced Vikes to play much more aggressive, and lead to the crazy ending. Plus he then made the game winner from same spot on field... ----- NOW today go out and find a kicker that can make his kicks, he is a liability in playoffs Game ball and a plane ticket it to go with it? ... crazy how many kicks this guy is missing

kgdabom -> RE: General Vikes Talk (11/14/2022 12:00:43 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson quote: ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer quote: ORIGINAL: Todd M It looked very clear to me Cousins was stuffed. Not sure what you're seeing if you think differently. I agree. Cousins doesn't seem like a good qb sneak guy. So many plays that were crucial. The Dalvin drop before the sneak looked like a TD. Just had to beat one guy from 2 yard line. Yep if Dalvin didn't drop that one we don't have to try the sneak.

Todd M -> RE: General Vikes Talk (11/14/2022 12:02:06 PM)
But I agree with KOC getting the call in quicker. I watched one where his verbiage just went on and on...there wasn't much clock left by the time Cousins spit it out in the huddle. I used to laugh at QB's wearing wrist bands thinking they were of the slow but I guess it speeds things up where the coach just says "19" and the QB just references the play.

kgdabom -> RE: General Vikes Talk (11/14/2022 12:03:48 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: David Levine quote: ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer quote: ORIGINAL: kgdabom quote: ORIGINAL: marty I didn't realize this: the Vikings have struck a deal with the NFL. The Vikings' opposition is allowed 4 no calls of pass interference for the 1st 4 quarters, and then the Vikings get a free no call of PI, to be used either late in the game, or in OT. Yep, but it was more like 4 per quarter for the first 4 quarters. Then we got one I forgot if it was during the Bills FG drive or in OT. the commentators kept saying 'they're letting them play' - but they sure didn't let hockenson play when he was called in the endzone - i thought that was a bs call, too.... I thought the Hock call was correct - and he probably saved an INT by committing the penalty. It was the right call and very good chance it prevented an interception.

kgdabom -> RE: General Vikes Talk (11/14/2022 12:05:39 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: bstinger quote: ORIGINAL: David Levine quote: ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer quote: ORIGINAL: kgdabom quote: ORIGINAL: marty I didn't realize this: the Vikings have struck a deal with the NFL. The Vikings' opposition is allowed 4 no calls of pass interference for the 1st 4 quarters, and then the Vikings get a free no call of PI, to be used either late in the game, or in OT. Yep, but it was more like 4 per quarter for the first 4 quarters. Then we got one I forgot if it was during the Bills FG drive or in OT. the commentators kept saying 'they're letting them play' - but they sure didn't let hockenson play when he was called in the endzone - i thought that was a bs call, too.... I thought the Hock call was correct - and he probably saved an INT by committing the penalty. Ya, I didn't have a problem with the PI on Hawk. I did have a problem with all the jersey grabbing the bills got away with including the play right after the PI. That jersey grabbing was on every route Jefferson ran. Also on a lot of the routes the other receivers ran.

ratoppenheimer -> RE: General Vikes Talk (11/14/2022 12:06:05 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: bstinger quote: ORIGINAL: David Levine quote: ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer quote: ORIGINAL: kgdabom quote: ORIGINAL: marty I didn't realize this: the Vikings have struck a deal with the NFL. The Vikings' opposition is allowed 4 no calls of pass interference for the 1st 4 quarters, and then the Vikings get a free no call of PI, to be used either late in the game, or in OT. Yep, but it was more like 4 per quarter for the first 4 quarters. Then we got one I forgot if it was during the Bills FG drive or in OT. the commentators kept saying 'they're letting them play' - but they sure didn't let hockenson play when he was called in the endzone - i thought that was a bs call, too.... I thought the Hock call was correct - and he probably saved an INT by committing the penalty. Ya, I didn't have a problem with the PI on Hawk. I did have a problem with all the jersey grabbing the bills got away with including the play right after the PI. that surprises me...i saw it as mutual bumping at the catch of the ball...nothing....

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