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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

Dexter Lawrence asking for a trade is very interesting.....but even though he is 28 that is the opposite of what Brez has been trying to accomplish.

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ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

Dexter Lawrence asking for a trade is very interesting.....but even though he is 28 that is the opposite of what Brez has been trying to accomplish.

In 17 games last year he had .5 sack(s)

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ORIGINAL: marty

My perspective right now it is that it is likely again the Bears win the division, unless Murray exceeds expectations, if he is decent, the Vikings could be at their heels. Or if McCarthy shines.

Chicago - Caleb Williams along with Ben Johnson is a strong foundation
Minnesota - I expect a 2nd place finish in the division, unless the regular season gets a little magical like it was with both Cousins and Darnold
Detroit - 3rd in the division, still feeling the loss of OC Ben Johnson, Pacheco is sort of a wildcard here, but my guess he will get injured and miss plenty of the season.
GB - A rare occasion where I pick GB to finish last in the division. They will likely miss their defensive coordinator, but their passing game can keep them in any game. I also feel like they lost some good depth in FA.

This is a pretty competitive division, nobody really sucks. I feel if the Vikings win the division, they will be in the NFC Championship game, maybe make it to the Super Bowl.

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: marty

My perspective right now it is that it is likely again the Bears win the division, unless Murray exceeds expectations, if he is decent, the Vikings could be at their heels. Or if McCarthy shines.

Chicago - Caleb Williams along with Ben Johnson is a strong foundation
Minnesota - I expect a 2nd place finish in the division, unless the regular season gets a little magical like it was with both Cousins and Darnold
Detroit - 3rd in the division, still feeling the loss of OC Ben Johnson, Pacheco is sort of a wildcard here, but my guess he will get injured and miss plenty of the season.
GB - A rare occasion where I pick GB to finish last in the division. They will likely miss their defensive coordinator, but their passing game can keep them in any game. I also feel like they lost some good depth in FA.

This is a pretty competitive division, nobody really sucks. I feel if the Vikings win the division, they will be in the NFC Championship game, maybe make it to the Super Bowl.

Unless they improve on the offensive line and at quarterback, the Vikings will be in dead last place. On day one, they will have the worst team on paper at both positions.

Brian Flores was the only reason they won nine games. The Vikes were #7 in the league in scoring defense. Only six teams scored less points on offense.

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: marty

My perspective right now it is that it is likely again the Bears win the division, unless Murray exceeds expectations, if he is decent, the Vikings could be at their heels. Or if McCarthy shines.

Chicago - Caleb Williams along with Ben Johnson is a strong foundation
Minnesota - I expect a 2nd place finish in the division, unless the regular season gets a little magical like it was with both Cousins and Darnold
Detroit - 3rd in the division, still feeling the loss of OC Ben Johnson, Pacheco is sort of a wildcard here, but my guess he will get injured and miss plenty of the season.
GB - A rare occasion where I pick GB to finish last in the division. They will likely miss their defensive coordinator, but their passing game can keep them in any game. I also feel like they lost some good depth in FA.

This is a pretty competitive division, nobody really sucks. I feel if the Vikings win the division, they will be in the NFC Championship game, maybe make it to the Super Bowl.

Unless they improve on the offensive line and at quarterback, the Vikings will be in dead last place. On day one, they will have the worst team on paper at both positions.

Brian Flores was the only reason they won nine games. The Vikes were #7 in the league in scoring defense. Only six teams scored less points on offense.

Is Oline a position? If healthy... Darrisaw, Fries, O'Neil, and Jackson are pretty good on paper.....but all 4 were dealing with injuries last year.

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ORIGINAL: ebergste

I guess I'm an optimist. KOC seems to have alternated each year between a really exceptionally lucky season and one that is almost amazingly disastrous. Either we have unexpectedly great QB play and good things happen or we have historically, un-heard of levels of ineptitude. Not excusing anyone just pointing out that our bottom isn't really that low, even in years when it probably should have been. If I said you to here is a random team. They will start their 2nd year rookie who was hurt all of last year. He will play pretty crappily and get hurt. They will then play a pretty much washed up back up and he will play pretty crappily and then get hurt. Then they will start an undrafted rookie who will play horrifically bad. Then return to the 2nd year guy for a very mediocre finish. What would you project their record to be. Nobody is saying 9-8. But that's last year. So optimistically with even average QB play there is a lot of potential. Purple kool-aid for the win :)

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

An all-trade first round from ESPN the other day: https://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2026/story/_/id/48373315/2026-nfl-mock-draft-all-trades-barnwell-deals-32-round-1-picks-players-mccarthy-crosby

13. Los Angeles Rams (via ATL).
Rams get: 1-18, 3-97, QB J.J. McCarthy
Vikings get: 1-13
This trade would value McCarthy as being worth the 112th pick in a typical draft by the Johnson chart, a selection in the middle of the fourth round.

No. Easy pass. JJM aside, giving up a comp 3rd to move up five spots seems too rich in this draft.


18. Minnesota Vikings
Vikings get: 1-25, 2-60
Bears get: 1-18, 5-163
It remains to be seen whether executive vice president of football operations Rob Brzezinski would be as amenable to this sort of trade, but I do have the Bears paying a bit of a premium for the privilege of making a deal within the NFC North.

Yes. Jump on that trade and let the Bears pay a premium. We'd have pick #25, two 2nds, two 3rds.

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: marty

My perspective right now it is that it is likely again the Bears win the division, unless Murray exceeds expectations, if he is decent, the Vikings could be at their heels. Or if McCarthy shines.

Chicago - Caleb Williams along with Ben Johnson is a strong foundation
Minnesota - I expect a 2nd place finish in the division, unless the regular season gets a little magical like it was with both Cousins and Darnold
Detroit - 3rd in the division, still feeling the loss of OC Ben Johnson, Pacheco is sort of a wildcard here, but my guess he will get injured and miss plenty of the season.
GB - A rare occasion where I pick GB to finish last in the division. They will likely miss their defensive coordinator, but their passing game can keep them in any game. I also feel like they lost some good depth in FA.

This is a pretty competitive division, nobody really sucks. I feel if the Vikings win the division, they will be in the NFC Championship game, maybe make it to the Super Bowl.

Unless they improve on the offensive line and at quarterback, the Vikings will be in dead last place. On day one, they will have the worst team on paper at both positions.

Brian Flores was the only reason they won nine games. The Vikes were #7 in the league in scoring defense. Only six teams scored less points on offense.

Is Oline a position? If healthy... Darrisaw, Fries, O'Neil, and Jackson are pretty good on paper.....but all 4 were dealing with injuries last year.

Viking fans know these basic facts.

Drive by trolls, not so much.

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: marty

My perspective right now it is that it is likely again the Bears win the division, unless Murray exceeds expectations, if he is decent, the Vikings could be at their heels. Or if McCarthy shines.

Chicago - Caleb Williams along with Ben Johnson is a strong foundation
Minnesota - I expect a 2nd place finish in the division, unless the regular season gets a little magical like it was with both Cousins and Darnold
Detroit - 3rd in the division, still feeling the loss of OC Ben Johnson, Pacheco is sort of a wildcard here, but my guess he will get injured and miss plenty of the season.
GB - A rare occasion where I pick GB to finish last in the division. They will likely miss their defensive coordinator, but their passing game can keep them in any game. I also feel like they lost some good depth in FA.

This is a pretty competitive division, nobody really sucks. I feel if the Vikings win the division, they will be in the NFC Championship game, maybe make it to the Super Bowl.

Unless they improve on the offensive line and at quarterback, the Vikings will be in dead last place. On day one, they will have the worst team on paper at both positions.

Brian Flores was the only reason they won nine games. The Vikes were #7 in the league in scoring defense. Only six teams scored less points on offense.

Is Oline a position? If healthy... Darrisaw, Fries, O'Neil, and Jackson are pretty good on paper.....but all 4 were dealing with injuries last year.

Viking fans know these basic facts.

Drive by trolls, not so much.

The best thing is they upgraded at Swing Tackle early.....Skule was horrible last year.

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: marty

My perspective right now it is that it is likely again the Bears win the division, unless Murray exceeds expectations, if he is decent, the Vikings could be at their heels. Or if McCarthy shines.

Chicago - Caleb Williams along with Ben Johnson is a strong foundation
Minnesota - I expect a 2nd place finish in the division, unless the regular season gets a little magical like it was with both Cousins and Darnold
Detroit - 3rd in the division, still feeling the loss of OC Ben Johnson, Pacheco is sort of a wildcard here, but my guess he will get injured and miss plenty of the season.
GB - A rare occasion where I pick GB to finish last in the division. They will likely miss their defensive coordinator, but their passing game can keep them in any game. I also feel like they lost some good depth in FA.

This is a pretty competitive division, nobody really sucks. I feel if the Vikings win the division, they will be in the NFC Championship game, maybe make it to the Super Bowl.

Unless they improve on the offensive line and at quarterback, the Vikings will be in dead last place. On day one, they will have the worst team on paper at both positions.

Brian Flores was the only reason they won nine games. The Vikes were #7 in the league in scoring defense. Only six teams scored less points on offense.

Is Oline a position? If healthy... Darrisaw, Fries, O'Neil, and Jackson are pretty good on paper.....but all 4 were dealing with injuries last year.

Viking fans know these basic facts.

Drive by trolls, not so much.

The best thing is they upgraded at Swing Tackle early.....Skule was horrible last year.

I think if things fall right, we can find a true starting Center in the 3rd Round.

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

Skor North was talking about RB Achane and a writer was throwing out some of his spaghetti. One of his guesses was MN getting Achane for a 2nd and a 5th.

I would not mind that.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

Skor North was talking about RB Achane and a writer was throwing out some of his spaghetti. One of his guesses was MN getting Achane for a 2nd and a 5th.

I would not mind that.

I'd just draft one. We're so thin at so many positions we need all our draft picks.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

WR. Crazy thin there especially since WR3 is essentially a starter in KOCs offense.

CB. The position has a couple of more bodies than WR but there isn't anyone to point to and say wow, that guy is talented.

DL. There is some promising upside, but who knows what Flores is thinking. Is his dream scenario a positionless defense?

C. Maybe Brandel really is the plan.

S. Is Smith off the grid? On safari?

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

And he's heading into a contract year.

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

And he's heading into a contract year.

Yes but top RBs only make 15 and he is 24. Achane is arguably a top 5-6 RB.

A major key for our offense is a running game. A 3rd and a 5th. Sign me up.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

And he's heading into a contract year.

Yes but top RBs only make 15 and he is 24. Achane is arguably a top 5-6 RB.

A major key for our offense is a running game. A 3rd and a 5th. Sign me up.

Why do that when your 'insider' said we will draft RB Love? I presume by moving up in the draft. What were the remarks? Oh yeah, "Use currency go get love".