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14 wins looked a lot better than five.

Again, that comment has no credibility coming from you. Cousins was 13-4, while putting up big numbers with a worse team and you said he was one of the 10 worst QB in football.

The same criteria now makes Darnold a savior. The biggest difference between Cousins in 22 and Darnold in 24 is that Cousins played a lot better in his playoff game than Darnold did in his.

For what it's worth, I'd take Cousins over JJ McCarthy right now.

Kind of puts that ridiculous argument to sleep, doesn't it?

Nope. Cousins wasn't the answer. Neither was Darnold.

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: Brad H
14 wins looked a lot better than five.

Again, that comment has no credibility coming from you. Cousins was 13-4, while putting up big numbers with a worse team and you said he was one of the 10 worst QB in football.

The same criteria now makes Darnold a savior. The biggest difference between Cousins in 22 and Darnold in 24 is that Cousins played a lot better in his playoff game than Darnold did in his.

"Cousins played a lot better in his playoff game than Darnold did in his..."

oof. That's some hard spanking there.

I almost feel sympathy for Brad flailing about. Almost.

The saying ... 'like an octopus falling out of a tree' comes to mind.

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: Brad H
14 wins looked a lot better than five.

Again, that comment has no credibility coming from you. Cousins was 13-4, while putting up big numbers with a worse team and you said he was one of the 10 worst QB in football.

The same criteria now makes Darnold a savior. The biggest difference between Cousins in 22 and Darnold in 24 is that Cousins played a lot better in his playoff game than Darnold did in his.

For what it's worth, I'd take Cousins over JJ McCarthy right now.

Kind of puts that ridiculous argument to sleep, doesn't it?

Not really when you factor in Strength of Schedule......I would actually rather have Jones if we had no cap over Cousins, JJ, and Wentz. With JJ getting more time to watch just like Mahomes, Brady, and Rodgers did. That was KOC's preference.

Who was your preference again?

Sometimes your posts are like trying to decipher Einstein's chalkboards.

A little.

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Brad H
14 wins looked a lot better than five.

Again, that comment has no credibility coming from you. Cousins was 13-4, while putting up big numbers with a worse team and you said he was one of the 10 worst QB in football.

The same criteria now makes Darnold a savior. The biggest difference between Cousins in 22 and Darnold in 24 is that Cousins played a lot better in his playoff game than Darnold did in his.

"Cousins played a lot better in his playoff game than Darnold did in his..."

oof. That's some hard spanking there.

I almost feel sympathy for Brad flailing about. Almost.

The saying ... 'like an octopus falling out of a tree' comes to mind.

Kirk Cousins was sacked zero times against the Giants. Sam Darnold was sacked nine times against LA.

Anybody not seeing the difference between those two performances from the offensive line isn't paying much attention.

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: Brad H
14 wins looked a lot better than five.

Again, that comment has no credibility coming from you. Cousins was 13-4, while putting up big numbers with a worse team and you said he was one of the 10 worst QB in football.

The same criteria now makes Darnold a savior. The biggest difference between Cousins in 22 and Darnold in 24 is that Cousins played a lot better in his playoff game than Darnold did in his.

"Cousins played a lot better in his playoff game than Darnold did in his..."

oof. That's some hard spanking there.

I almost feel sympathy for Brad flailing about. Almost.

The saying ... 'like an octopus falling out of a tree' comes to mind.

Kirk Cousins was sacked zero times against the Giants. Sam Darnold was sacked nine times against LA.

Anybody not seeing the difference between those two performances from the offensive line isn't paying much attention.

One held onto the ball to long in their playoff game and couldn't process fast enough....which one would you guess?

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: Brad H
14 wins looked a lot better than five.

Again, that comment has no credibility coming from you. Cousins was 13-4, while putting up big numbers with a worse team and you said he was one of the 10 worst QB in football.

The same criteria now makes Darnold a savior. The biggest difference between Cousins in 22 and Darnold in 24 is that Cousins played a lot better in his playoff game than Darnold did in his.

"Cousins played a lot better in his playoff game than Darnold did in his..."

oof. That's some hard spanking there.

I almost feel sympathy for Brad flailing about. Almost.

The saying ... 'like an octopus falling out of a tree' comes to mind.

Kirk Cousins was sacked zero times against the Giants. Sam Darnold was sacked nine times against LA.

Anybody not seeing the difference between those two performances from the offensive line isn't paying much attention.

One held onto the ball to long in their playoff game and couldn't process fast enough....which one would you guess?

That would be the lazy man's assumption.

One was not protected and the other was. That is the response of someone that watched the games.

As I have said many times, Darnold did not play well. However, 14 wins in a season is the most in franchise history, which is nothing to sneeze at. Getting rid of a guy that won 14 games is arrogant. You better be damned sure what you have in waiting is competent. JJ McCarthy has not not shown competence through two performances.

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: Brad H
14 wins looked a lot better than five.

Again, that comment has no credibility coming from you. Cousins was 13-4, while putting up big numbers with a worse team and you said he was one of the 10 worst QB in football.

The same criteria now makes Darnold a savior. The biggest difference between Cousins in 22 and Darnold in 24 is that Cousins played a lot better in his playoff game than Darnold did in his.

For what it's worth, I'd take Cousins over JJ McCarthy right now.

Kind of puts that ridiculous argument to sleep, doesn't it?

Nope. Cousins wasn't the answer. Neither was Darnold.

There's about 29-30 other teams that would say the exact same thing. Only one team wins. Just because they didn't win a big game in the playoffs doesn't lead to the conclusion to them not being the answer.

Can you imagine Buffalo saying something like that? Or Baltimore?

Yea, that Josh Allen is not the answer.

Football is a team game. I'll let you do the homework to find out how often a quarterback wins when he gets sacked nine times in a game. I'm willing to bet that number is pretty low.

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: Brad H
14 wins looked a lot better than five.

Again, that comment has no credibility coming from you. Cousins was 13-4, while putting up big numbers with a worse team and you said he was one of the 10 worst QB in football.

The same criteria now makes Darnold a savior. The biggest difference between Cousins in 22 and Darnold in 24 is that Cousins played a lot better in his playoff game than Darnold did in his.

For what it's worth, I'd take Cousins over JJ McCarthy right now.

Kind of puts that ridiculous argument to sleep, doesn't it?

Nope. Cousins wasn't the answer. Neither was Darnold.

There's about 29-30 other teams that would say the exact same thing. Only one team wins. Just because they didn't win a big game in the playoffs doesn't lead to the conclusion to them not being the answer.

Can you imagine Buffalo saying something like that? Or Baltimore?

Yea, that Josh Allen is not the answer.

Football is a team game. I'll let you do the homework to find out how often a quarterback wins when he gets sacked nine times in a game. I'm willing to bet that number is pretty low.

What a ridiculous comparison. Josh Allen has a 101.7 QB rating and a 7-6 playoff record with 25 TD and 4 int. Sam Darnold shit the bed. He panicked and couldn't see open receivers, causing him to hold the ball and take sacks.

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: Brad H
14 wins looked a lot better than five.

Again, that comment has no credibility coming from you. Cousins was 13-4, while putting up big numbers with a worse team and you said he was one of the 10 worst QB in football.

The same criteria now makes Darnold a savior. The biggest difference between Cousins in 22 and Darnold in 24 is that Cousins played a lot better in his playoff game than Darnold did in his.

For what it's worth, I'd take Cousins over JJ McCarthy right now.

Kind of puts that ridiculous argument to sleep, doesn't it?

Nope. Cousins wasn't the answer. Neither was Darnold.

There's about 29-30 other teams that would say the exact same thing. Only one team wins. Just because they didn't win a big game in the playoffs doesn't lead to the conclusion to them not being the answer.

Can you imagine Buffalo saying something like that? Or Baltimore?

Yea, that Josh Allen is not the answer.

Football is a team game. I'll let you do the homework to find out how often a quarterback wins when he gets sacked nine times in a game. I'm willing to bet that number is pretty low.

What a ridiculous comparison. Josh Allen has a 101.7 QB rating and a 7-6 playoff record with 25 TD and 4 int. Sam Darnold shit the bed. He panicked and couldn't see open receivers, causing him to hold the ball and take sacks.

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: Brad H
14 wins looked a lot better than five.

Again, that comment has no credibility coming from you. Cousins was 13-4, while putting up big numbers with a worse team and you said he was one of the 10 worst QB in football.

The same criteria now makes Darnold a savior. The biggest difference between Cousins in 22 and Darnold in 24 is that Cousins played a lot better in his playoff game than Darnold did in his.

For what it's worth, I'd take Cousins over JJ McCarthy right now.

Kind of puts that ridiculous argument to sleep, doesn't it?

Nope. Cousins wasn't the answer. Neither was Darnold.

There's about 29-30 other teams that would say the exact same thing. Only one team wins. Just because they didn't win a big game in the playoffs doesn't lead to the conclusion to them not being the answer.

Can you imagine Buffalo saying something like that? Or Baltimore?

Yea, that Josh Allen is not the answer.

Football is a team game. I'll let you do the homework to find out how often a quarterback wins when he gets sacked nine times in a game. I'm willing to bet that number is pretty low.

What a ridiculous comparison. Josh Allen has a 101.7 QB rating and a 7-6 playoff record with 25 TD and 4 int. Sam Darnold shit the bed. He panicked and couldn't see open receivers, causing him to hold the ball and take sacks.

Yup.

Sam completely shit the bed against a decimated Lions defense the week before - playing for the #1 seed. And it carried over to the Rams game.

He cruised through the regular season, but as soon as the games got really meaningful he crumbled.

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: Brad H
14 wins looked a lot better than five.

Again, that comment has no credibility coming from you. Cousins was 13-4, while putting up big numbers with a worse team and you said he was one of the 10 worst QB in football.

The same criteria now makes Darnold a savior. The biggest difference between Cousins in 22 and Darnold in 24 is that Cousins played a lot better in his playoff game than Darnold did in his.

For what it's worth, I'd take Cousins over JJ McCarthy right now.

Kind of puts that ridiculous argument to sleep, doesn't it?

Nope. Cousins wasn't the answer. Neither was Darnold.

There's about 29-30 other teams that would say the exact same thing. Only one team wins. Just because they didn't win a big game in the playoffs doesn't lead to the conclusion to them not being the answer.

Can you imagine Buffalo saying something like that? Or Baltimore?

Yea, that Josh Allen is not the answer.

Football is a team game. I'll let you do the homework to find out how often a quarterback wins when he gets sacked nine times in a game. I'm willing to bet that number is pretty low.

What a ridiculous comparison. Josh Allen has a 101.7 QB rating and a 7-6 playoff record with 25 TD and 4 int. Sam Darnold shit the bed. He panicked and couldn't see open receivers, causing him to hold the ball and take sacks.

Yup.

Sam completely shit the bed against a decimated Lions defense the week before - playing for the #1 seed. And it carried over to the Rams game.

He cruised through the regular season, but as soon as the games got really meaningful he crumbled.

So the question is, would you rather get to meaningful games or not get to meaningful games. 14-3 gets you to meaningful games.

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: Brad H
14 wins looked a lot better than five.

Again, that comment has no credibility coming from you. Cousins was 13-4, while putting up big numbers with a worse team and you said he was one of the 10 worst QB in football.

The same criteria now makes Darnold a savior. The biggest difference between Cousins in 22 and Darnold in 24 is that Cousins played a lot better in his playoff game than Darnold did in his.

For what it's worth, I'd take Cousins over JJ McCarthy right now.

Kind of puts that ridiculous argument to sleep, doesn't it?

Nope. Cousins wasn't the answer. Neither was Darnold.

There's about 29-30 other teams that would say the exact same thing. Only one team wins. Just because they didn't win a big game in the playoffs doesn't lead to the conclusion to them not being the answer.

Can you imagine Buffalo saying something like that? Or Baltimore?

Yea, that Josh Allen is not the answer.

Football is a team game. I'll let you do the homework to find out how often a quarterback wins when he gets sacked nine times in a game. I'm willing to bet that number is pretty low.

What a ridiculous comparison. Josh Allen has a 101.7 QB rating and a 7-6 playoff record with 25 TD and 4 int. Sam Darnold shit the bed. He panicked and couldn't see open receivers, causing him to hold the ball and take sacks.

Yup.

Sam completely shit the bed against a decimated Lions defense the week before - playing for the #1 seed. And it carried over to the Rams game.

He cruised through the regular season, but as soon as the games got really meaningful he crumbled.

So the question is, would you rather get to meaningful games or not get to meaningful games. 14-3 gets you to meaningful games.

And we're right back to the Cousins Hypocrisy.

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: Brad H
14 wins looked a lot better than five.

Again, that comment has no credibility coming from you. Cousins was 13-4, while putting up big numbers with a worse team and you said he was one of the 10 worst QB in football.

The same criteria now makes Darnold a savior. The biggest difference between Cousins in 22 and Darnold in 24 is that Cousins played a lot better in his playoff game than Darnold did in his.

For what it's worth, I'd take Cousins over JJ McCarthy right now.

Kind of puts that ridiculous argument to sleep, doesn't it?

Nope. Cousins wasn't the answer. Neither was Darnold.

There's about 29-30 other teams that would say the exact same thing. Only one team wins. Just because they didn't win a big game in the playoffs doesn't lead to the conclusion to them not being the answer.

Can you imagine Buffalo saying something like that? Or Baltimore?

Yea, that Josh Allen is not the answer.

Football is a team game. I'll let you do the homework to find out how often a quarterback wins when he gets sacked nine times in a game. I'm willing to bet that number is pretty low.

What a ridiculous comparison. Josh Allen has a 101.7 QB rating and a 7-6 playoff record with 25 TD and 4 int. Sam Darnold shit the bed. He panicked and couldn't see open receivers, causing him to hold the ball and take sacks.

Yup.

Sam completely shit the bed against a decimated Lions defense the week before - playing for the #1 seed. And it carried over to the Rams game.

He cruised through the regular season, but as soon as the games got really meaningful he crumbled.

So the question is, would you rather get to meaningful games or not get to meaningful games. 14-3 gets you to meaningful games.

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: Brad H
14 wins looked a lot better than five.

Again, that comment has no credibility coming from you. Cousins was 13-4, while putting up big numbers with a worse team and you said he was one of the 10 worst QB in football.

The same criteria now makes Darnold a savior. The biggest difference between Cousins in 22 and Darnold in 24 is that Cousins played a lot better in his playoff game than Darnold did in his.

For what it's worth, I'd take Cousins over JJ McCarthy right now.

Kind of puts that ridiculous argument to sleep, doesn't it?

Nope. Cousins wasn't the answer. Neither was Darnold.

There's about 29-30 other teams that would say the exact same thing. Only one team wins. Just because they didn't win a big game in the playoffs doesn't lead to the conclusion to them not being the answer.

Can you imagine Buffalo saying something like that? Or Baltimore?

Yea, that Josh Allen is not the answer.

Football is a team game. I'll let you do the homework to find out how often a quarterback wins when he gets sacked nine times in a game. I'm willing to bet that number is pretty low.

What a ridiculous comparison. Josh Allen has a 101.7 QB rating and a 7-6 playoff record with 25 TD and 4 int. Sam Darnold shit the bed. He panicked and couldn't see open receivers, causing him to hold the ball and take sacks.

Yup.

Sam completely shit the bed against a decimated Lions defense the week before - playing for the #1 seed. And it carried over to the Rams game.

He cruised through the regular season, but as soon as the games got really meaningful he crumbled.

So the question is, would you rather get to meaningful games or not get to meaningful games. 14-3 gets you to meaningful games.

Meaningful games aren't meaningful if your QB shows up with full-on rigor mortis.

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QB is the most important position in all of team sports. Sure some QBs choke during certain game situations, others moreso, there are varying degrees etc. But I've watched a lot of football over the decades and never saw a QB so outright frightened and unable to think as Sam Darnold during his last two games as a Vikings.

He wasn't dead but rigor mortis like symptoms set in from the get-go and he never recovered.

Darnold knew that success probably meant a massive, multi-year contract in the $200 million range and lots of attention, and IMO that factored in a lot.

All in all it wasn't just that he folded, which is bad enough, it was how extensive it was.

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14 wins looked a lot better than five.

Again, that comment has no credibility coming from you. Cousins was 13-4, while putting up big numbers with a worse team and you said he was one of the 10 worst QB in football.

The same criteria now makes Darnold a savior. The biggest difference between Cousins in 22 and Darnold in 24 is that Cousins played a lot better in his playoff game than Darnold did in his.

"Cousins played a lot better in his playoff game than Darnold did in his..."

oof. That's some hard spanking there.

I almost feel sympathy for Brad flailing about. Almost.

The saying ... 'like an octopus falling out of a tree' comes to mind.

Kirk Cousins was sacked zero times against the Giants. Sam Darnold was sacked nine times against LA.

Anybody not seeing the difference between those two performances from the offensive line isn't paying much attention.

One held onto the ball to long in their playoff game and couldn't process fast enough....which one would you guess?

That would be the lazy man's assumption.

One was not protected and the other was. That is the response of someone that watched the games.

As I have said many times, Darnold did not play well. However, 14 wins in a season is the most in franchise history, which is nothing to sneeze at. Getting rid of a guy that won 14 games is arrogant. You better be damned sure what you have in waiting is competent. JJ McCarthy has not not shown competence through two performances.

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: Brad H
14 wins looked a lot better than five.

Again, that comment has no credibility coming from you. Cousins was 13-4, while putting up big numbers with a worse team and you said he was one of the 10 worst QB in football.

The same criteria now makes Darnold a savior. The biggest difference between Cousins in 22 and Darnold in 24 is that Cousins played a lot better in his playoff game than Darnold did in his.

"Cousins played a lot better in his playoff game than Darnold did in his..."

oof. That's some hard spanking there.

I almost feel sympathy for Brad flailing about. Almost.

The saying ... 'like an octopus falling out of a tree' comes to mind.

Kirk Cousins was sacked zero times against the Giants. Sam Darnold was sacked nine times against LA.

Anybody not seeing the difference between those two performances from the offensive line isn't paying much attention.

One held onto the ball to long in their playoff game and couldn't process fast enough....which one would you guess?

That would be the lazy man's assumption.

One was not protected and the other was. That is the response of someone that watched the games.

As I have said many times, Darnold did not play well. However, 14 wins in a season is the most in franchise history, which is nothing to sneeze at. Getting rid of a guy that won 14 games is arrogant. You better be damned sure what you have in waiting is competent. JJ McCarthy has not not shown competence through two performances.

How pathetic You have no clue what you're talking about

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

I think the real question is, is JJ McCarthy really hurt? Could he play this weekend?

Anybody think Baker Mayfield would play with McCarthy's injury? Or Pat Mahomes? Justin Herbert? Those guys routinely play injured.