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TJSweens -> RE: General Vikes Talkk (8/25/2026 5:01:32 PM)

Should I create a Bill and Phil stupid argument thread?




Bill Johanesen -> RE: General Vikes Talkk (8/25/2026 5:03:43 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: TJSweens

Should I create a Bill and Phil stupid argument thread?


I'm not going to have a liar continually change what I posted, and I don't think you would either.




Phil Riewer -> RE: General Vikes Talkk (8/25/2026 5:06:49 PM)

Alec Lewis final roster for the IDL:

Defensive line (6)
In: Jalen Redmond, Levi Drake Rodriguez, Tyrion Ingram-Dawkins, Caleb Banks, Domonique Orange, Elijah Williams

Out: Isaiahh Loudermilk, Jonathan Harris, Jahvaree Ritzie, Smith Vilbert

The youth of this defensive tackle group stands out. Redmond is the most senior of the bunch at 27. This places further responsibility on defensive line coaches Ryan Nielsen and Pat Hill.

Even though Brian Flores’ defensive system pulls levers to stop the run with its scheme, the pressure falls on these big men to hold up at the point of attack. The easier it becomes for opposing offenses to throw jabs, the more difficult it will be for the Vikings defense to create its patented chaos. Banks’ runway to play a major amount of snaps remains long. Orange could be more impactful early on, while Williams built off of his rookie season with some eyebrow-raising preseason tape.




Phil Riewer -> RE: General Vikes Talkk (8/25/2026 5:09:18 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

quote:

ORIGINAL: TJSweens

Should I create a Bill and Phil stupid argument thread?


I'm not going to have a liar continually change what I posted, and I don't think you would either.


I follow up with a question and you turn to calling me a liar or the dishonest one because you were rash (maybe you also have a rash) or exaggerated.

That is what is intriguing.




Bill Johanesen -> RE: General Vikes Talkk (8/25/2026 5:10:23 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

Alec Lewis final roster for the IDL:

Defensive line (6)
In: Jalen Redmond, Levi Drake Rodriguez, Tyrion Ingram-Dawkins, Caleb Banks, Domonique Orange, Elijah Williams

Out: Isaiahh Loudermilk, Jonathan Harris, Jahvaree Ritzie, Smith Vilbert

The youth of this defensive tackle group stands out. Redmond is the most senior of the bunch at 27. This places further responsibility on defensive line coaches Ryan Nielsen and Pat Hill.

Even though Brian Flores’ defensive system pulls levers to stop the run with its scheme, the pressure falls on these big men to hold up at the point of attack. The easier it becomes for opposing offenses to throw jabs, the more difficult it will be for the Vikings defense to create its patented chaos. Banks’ runway to play a major amount of snaps remains long. Orange could be more impactful early on, while Williams built off of his rookie season with some eyebrow-raising preseason tape.


Thanks for posting my point.




Phil Riewer -> RE: General Vikes Talkk (8/25/2026 5:11:37 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

Alec Lewis final roster for the IDL:

Defensive line (6)
In: Jalen Redmond, Levi Drake Rodriguez, Tyrion Ingram-Dawkins, Caleb Banks, Domonique Orange, Elijah Williams

Out: Isaiahh Loudermilk, Jonathan Harris, Jahvaree Ritzie, Smith Vilbert

The youth of this defensive tackle group stands out. Redmond is the most senior of the bunch at 27. This places further responsibility on defensive line coaches Ryan Nielsen and Pat Hill.

Even though Brian Flores’ defensive system pulls levers to stop the run with its scheme, the pressure falls on these big men to hold up at the point of attack. The easier it becomes for opposing offenses to throw jabs, the more difficult it will be for the Vikings defense to create its patented chaos. Banks’ runway to play a major amount of snaps remains long. Orange could be more impactful early on, while Williams built off of his rookie season with some eyebrow-raising preseason tape.


Thanks for posting my point.


Yeah right [&:]




Bill Johanesen -> RE: General Vikes Talkk (8/25/2026 5:13:28 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

quote:

ORIGINAL: TJSweens

Should I create a Bill and Phil stupid argument thread?


I'm not going to have a liar continually change what I posted, and I don't think you would either.


I follow up with a question and you turn to calling me a liar or the dishonest one because you were rash (maybe you also have a rash) or exaggerated.

That is what is intriguing.


A question?! LMAO! Time and again a loaded question using your words to change what I said. You are sneaky. And you are a liar.




Bill Johanesen -> RE: General Vikes Talkk (8/25/2026 5:16:46 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

Alec Lewis final roster for the IDL:

Defensive line (6)
In: Jalen Redmond, Levi Drake Rodriguez, Tyrion Ingram-Dawkins, Caleb Banks, Domonique Orange, Elijah Williams

Out: Isaiahh Loudermilk, Jonathan Harris, Jahvaree Ritzie, Smith Vilbert

The youth of this defensive tackle group stands out. Redmond is the most senior of the bunch at 27. This places further responsibility on defensive line coaches Ryan Nielsen and Pat Hill.

Even though Brian Flores’ defensive system pulls levers to stop the run with its scheme, the pressure falls on these big men to hold up at the point of attack. The easier it becomes for opposing offenses to throw jabs, the more difficult it will be for the Vikings defense to create its patented chaos. Banks’ runway to play a major amount of snaps remains long. Orange could be more impactful early on, while Williams built off of his rookie season with some eyebrow-raising preseason tape.


Thanks for posting my point.


Yeah right [&:]


Dare I say intriguing.

Oh wait, I did... almost 3 weeks ago!

I see you scurried away from that after I shot your accusation into oblivion.




Phil Riewer -> RE: General Vikes Talkk (8/25/2026 5:18:02 PM)

The whole cut list by Lewis:
Quarterback (3)
In: Kyler Murray, Carson Wentz, J.J. McCarthy
Out: Max Brosmer

The backup quarterback conversation can misdirect from what’s actually most important. Can head coach Kevin O’Connell and Murray meld their preferences into a potent offensive vision?
Training camp has offered some clues. Expect the Vikings to play more from the shotgun in 2026. Furthermore, Minnesota’s staff plans to reconfigure the passing game around Murray’s strengths. These modifications matter in the bigger picture for a franchise that has not won a playoff game since 2019.

As for the backup situation, McCarthy took all of the No. 2 reps in last week’s joint practices. His performance was up and down. Another chaotic preseason outing for McCarthy — juxtaposed with Wentz’s professional-looking operation — could position the veteran as the most rational second option if Murray were to suffer an injury.

Running back (4)
In: Aaron Jones, Jordan Mason, Demond Claiborne, Zavier Scott
Out: Jermar Jefferson

Those associated with the rushing attack have spoken optimistically about what’s possible. The offensive line is flying off the line of scrimmage. Running backs have clear tracks with defined responsibilities to wheel around the edge or make sharp cuts. Jones’ reliability will earn him a hefty chunk of snaps. But Mason’s burst presents even more opportunity if he can improve in pass protection.

If the Vikings decide to keep an extra offensive lineman, or if they don’t think they can sneak a young defender onto the practice squad, they could further chisel down this room. But Claiborne’s explosiveness and Scott’s special teams impact should help both find their way to the 53.

Fullback (1)
In: Max Bredeson

Minnesota only used 21 personnel on 7.8 percent of its offensive snaps in 2025. As long as Bredeson stays healthy, that number will climb. He has been a fixture with the first-team offense during training camp.
Teammates rave about his aptitude. Learning O’Connell’s complex offense is one thing, but occupying a role that asks him to motion all over the formation is another. The way the Miami Dolphins deployed Alec Ingold is a perfect comparison for his projected usage.
The rookie fullback from Michigan appears likely to play a big, Alec Ingold-like role in the Vikings' run game this season.

Wide receiver (5)
In: Justin Jefferson, Jordan Addison, Jauan Jennings, Myles Price, Tai Felton
Out: Dillon Bell, Jeshaun Jones, Dontae Fleming, Terrill Davis, Michael Briscoe, Trayvon Rudolph, Marcus Sanders Jr.

The top trio needs little introduction or explanation. It might be the most talented and potent starting group of wideouts in the NFL. Addison is quietly piecing together a phenomenal training camp, displaying an impressive rapport with Murray after the two spent significant time together this offseason in Dallas.

Perhaps the biggest issue here is depth. Price and Felton each took steps this offseason in their schematic understanding and trustworthiness as pass catchers. Both could have short-term roles. Bell, an undrafted signing from Georgia who excelled Saturday against the Ravens, isn’t going to be easy to slide to the practice squad. Lose him to another team, and the Vikings will have a pretty thin group of developmental receiver talent.

Tight end (3)
In: T.J. Hockenson, Josh Oliver, Ben Yurosek
Out: Gavin Bartholomew, Matt Lauter, Marshall Lang

A few years ago, O’Connell went so far as to call former Viking Johnny Mundt the best No. 3 tight end in the NFL. The franchise valued him as insurance. They’ve searched for a replacement since.
Yurosek’s blocking ability may give him the edge over Bartholomew, but Bartholomew might be more fluid as a receiver. This spot won’t receive much attention, but the Vikings offense needs to maintain its vision if Hockenson or Oliver misses time.

Offensive line (9)
In: Christian Darrisaw, Donovan Jackson, Blake Brandel, Will Fries, Brian O’Neill, Ryan Van Demark, Caleb Tiernan, Michael Jurgens, Joe Huber
Out: Walter Rouse, Henry Byrd, Joshua Gray, Vershon Lee, Gavin Gerhardt, Tristan Leigh, Delby Lemieux, Tomas Rimac

All five starters are healthy. They’re also motivated and committed to a higher standard with coach Keith Carter at the helm. Brandel’s relative newness at center warrants observation once the season starts. Health for the three interior starters will also be integral, as none of the expected backups have fared particularly well during the preseason.

Defensive line (6)
In: Jalen Redmond, Levi Drake Rodriguez, Tyrion Ingram-Dawkins, Caleb Banks, Domonique Orange, Elijah Williams
Out: Isaiahh Loudermilk, Jonathan Harris, Jahvaree Ritzie, Smith Vilbert

The youth of this defensive tackle group stands out. Redmond is the most senior of the bunch at 27. This places further responsibility on defensive line coaches Ryan Nielsen and Pat Hill.
Even though Brian Flores’ defensive system pulls levers to stop the run with its scheme, the pressure falls on these big men to hold up at the point of attack. The easier it becomes for opposing offenses to throw jabs, the more difficult it will be for the Vikings defense to create its patented chaos. Banks’ runway to play a major amount of snaps remains long. Orange could be more impactful early on, while Williams built off of his rookie season with some eyebrow-raising preseason tape.

Edge rusher (5)
In: Andrew Van Ginkel, Dallas Turner, Tyler Batty, Chaz Chambliss, Bo Richter
Out: Kenny Dyson, Cam’Ron Stewart

One of the more underdiscussed layers of the Jonathan Greenard-to-Turner transition was the added flexibility it offered Flores. Turner drops from the line of scrimmage with smoothness and awareness. This increases the deception for opposing offenses. Their protection schemes might expect edge rushers, but both Van Ginkel and Turner could drift backward, making the interior more susceptible
Turner’s progression is one of the central pivot points for the Vikings in 2026. It’s also worth noting that Batty, Chambliss and Richter have all produced admirably throughout training camp.
Does this mean the Vikings won’t scour the free-agent market for reinforcements? The answer to that question should come in the next few weeks.

Linebacker (4)
In: Blake Cashman, Eric Wilson, Jake Golday, Ivan Pace Jr.
Out: Jacob Roberts, Bangally Kamara, Josh Ross

Few, if any, positions improved from a depth perspective as much as linebacker. Golday continues to impress. Even offseason signings Roberts and Kamara made enough plays in the first two preseason games to capture some attention. Minnesota could keep five of them, but the floor of the first four may be high enough to supplement another position group.

It’s also easier to believe in the capability here when Cashman and Wilson are coming off the seasons they are. Few Vikings players have had better training camps than those two.

Cornerback (4)
In: Byron Murphy Jr., Isaiah Rodgers, James Pierre, Charles Demmings
Out: Da’Veawn Armstead, Zemaiah Vaughn, Marcus Allen, Dwight McGlothern Jr., Jarod Washington, Bryce Phillips

The Vikings can get away with fewer cornerbacks because they utilize so many three-safety sets. Murphy, Rodgers, Pierre and Demmings are all locks. The only suspense is around a youngster like Armstead, who has had a good camp.
Pierre and Demmings both vied for the No. 3 role. But this also speaks to the growth at the back end of the room as compared to recent years.

Safety (6)
In: Josh Metellus, Jay Ward, Theo Jackson, Jacob Thomas, Jakobe Thomas, Tavierre Thomas
Out: Kahlef Hailassie

Let’s get the elephant in the room out of the way: Harrison Smith’s future is still undecided. There is no timetable for a decision. Smith could decide this week — or in multiple weeks — that he’s ready to give it one more go — or hang No. 22 up entirely. The Vikings might need him.

Currently, Metellus and Jackson seem like the most reasonable candidates to take snaps on the back end. Metellus thrives nearer to the box, but that’s also where Ward fits best. An injury to any of these three would stress a group Flores relies on to operate his defensive controls.

Undrafted rookie Jacob Thomas has emerged as a viable option to play defensive snaps early on. Rookie third-round pick Jakobe Thomas hasn’t practiced extensively in recent weeks with back stiffness. And Tavierre Thomas makes sense if the Vikings are committed to maximizing special teams by using him as a gunner.

Specialist (3)
In: Will Reichard, Andrew DePaola, Johnny Hekker
International pathway player: P Brett Thorson

The less intrigue with this group, the better. Losing punter Ryan Wright in free agency generated some training camp concern. Hekker’s holding experience will likely win out, but Thorson provided more of a challenge than other undrafted free-agent punters the Vikings have tried out in past years.




Phil Riewer -> RE: General Vikes Talkk (8/25/2026 5:19:40 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

Alec Lewis final roster for the IDL:

Defensive line (6)
In: Jalen Redmond, Levi Drake Rodriguez, Tyrion Ingram-Dawkins, Caleb Banks, Domonique Orange, Elijah Williams

Out: Isaiahh Loudermilk, Jonathan Harris, Jahvaree Ritzie, Smith Vilbert

The youth of this defensive tackle group stands out. Redmond is the most senior of the bunch at 27. This places further responsibility on defensive line coaches Ryan Nielsen and Pat Hill.

Even though Brian Flores’ defensive system pulls levers to stop the run with its scheme, the pressure falls on these big men to hold up at the point of attack. The easier it becomes for opposing offenses to throw jabs, the more difficult it will be for the Vikings defense to create its patented chaos. Banks’ runway to play a major amount of snaps remains long. Orange could be more impactful early on, while Williams built off of his rookie season with some eyebrow-raising preseason tape.


Thanks for posting my point.


Yeah right [&:]


Dare I say intriguing.

Oh wait, I did... almost 3 weeks ago!

I see you scurried away from that after I shot your accusation into oblivion.


Scurried away? You are an idiot as there wasn't much talk until after the first game last week. Check the thread.

Oh...just keep exaggerating. [:-]




Bill Johanesen -> RE: General Vikes Talkk (8/25/2026 5:26:15 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

Alec Lewis final roster for the IDL:

Defensive line (6)
In: Jalen Redmond, Levi Drake Rodriguez, Tyrion Ingram-Dawkins, Caleb Banks, Domonique Orange, Elijah Williams

Out: Isaiahh Loudermilk, Jonathan Harris, Jahvaree Ritzie, Smith Vilbert

The youth of this defensive tackle group stands out. Redmond is the most senior of the bunch at 27. This places further responsibility on defensive line coaches Ryan Nielsen and Pat Hill.

Even though Brian Flores’ defensive system pulls levers to stop the run with its scheme, the pressure falls on these big men to hold up at the point of attack. The easier it becomes for opposing offenses to throw jabs, the more difficult it will be for the Vikings defense to create its patented chaos. Banks’ runway to play a major amount of snaps remains long. Orange could be more impactful early on, while Williams built off of his rookie season with some eyebrow-raising preseason tape.


Thanks for posting my point.


Yeah right [&:]


Dare I say intriguing.

Oh wait, I did... almost 3 weeks ago!

I see you scurried away from that after I shot your accusation into oblivion.


Scurried away? You are an idiot as there wasn't much talk until after the first game last week. Check the thread.

Oh...just keep exaggerating. [:-]



Are you literally insane?

The first preseason game was Aug 15.

You:
Aug 4. They have $$$ to sign a (DL) guy yet or after cuts.
Aug 5. $21 million in salary cap space after O'Neil extension. There will be cuts and adds......maybe/maybe not IDL.
Aug 6. So we are fine at IDL since we do have cap space and we can sign one if needed after cuts? Lol
Aug 20. DL is fine (for now and if needed they have Preseason and cap space for additions).

Me:
Aug 5: Bottomline, the DL is largely unknown yet intriguing. More intriguing than last year.

Along with a ton of other posts on the matter well before preseason started.




Tom Sykes -> RE: General Vikes Talkk (8/26/2026 10:21:48 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

Alec Lewis final roster for the IDL:

Defensive line (6)
In: Jalen Redmond, Levi Drake Rodriguez, Tyrion Ingram-Dawkins, Caleb Banks, Domonique Orange, Elijah Williams

Out: Isaiahh Loudermilk, Jonathan Harris, Jahvaree Ritzie, Smith Vilbert

The youth of this defensive tackle group stands out. Redmond is the most senior of the bunch at 27. This places further responsibility on defensive line coaches Ryan Nielsen and Pat Hill.

Even though Brian Flores’ defensive system pulls levers to stop the run with its scheme, the pressure falls on these big men to hold up at the point of attack. The easier it becomes for opposing offenses to throw jabs, the more difficult it will be for the Vikings defense to create its patented chaos. Banks’ runway to play a major amount of snaps remains long. Orange could be more impactful early on, while Williams built off of his rookie season with some eyebrow-raising preseason tape.


Thanks for posting my point.


Yeah right [&:]


Dare I say intriguing.

Oh wait, I did... almost 3 weeks ago!

I see you scurried away from that after I shot your accusation into oblivion.


Scurried away? You are an idiot as there wasn't much talk until after the first game last week. Check the thread.

Oh...just keep exaggerating. [:-]



Are you literally insane?

The first preseason game was Aug 15.

You:
Aug 4. They have $$$ to sign a (DL) guy yet or after cuts.
Aug 5. $21 million in salary cap space after O'Neil extension. There will be cuts and adds......maybe/maybe not IDL.
Aug 6. So we are fine at IDL since we do have cap space and we can sign one if needed after cuts? Lol
Aug 20. DL is fine (for now and if needed they have Preseason and cap space for additions).

Me:
Aug 5: Bottomline, the DL is largely unknown yet intriguing. More intriguing than last year.

Along with a ton of other posts on the matter well before preseason started.

Insane? No. Hard headed yes … as in Wolverine adamantium hard headed.

Not just the outer shell either. There are magnetized layers of disjointed logic to repel arguments underneath.

I myself have given up [for the moment] trying to argue with adamantium onion head Phil.




TJSweens -> RE: General Vikes Talkk (8/26/2026 1:06:27 PM)

Is adamantium a ferrous metal? [sm=scratch.gif]




beo -> RE: General Vikes Talkk (8/26/2026 1:09:06 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: TJSweens

Is adamantium a ferrous metal? [sm=scratch.gif]


Yes, I believe Magneto was able to manipulate adamantium.
(i don't know if that really means anything...)




Bill Johanesen -> RE: General Vikes Talkk (8/26/2026 1:20:41 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: TJSweens

Is adamantium a ferrous metal? [sm=scratch.gif]


It is used in chaff and flares, which of course are deployed literally as diversions.

It is also used in ball bearings for vehicles that move goalposts.

If you get too much in your system, you go bonkers. It starts with not knowing things like what you wrote or read two weeks ago. A nasty rash is a sure sign of progression.




Tom Sykes -> RE: General Vikes Talkk (8/26/2026 2:24:49 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: beo

quote:

ORIGINAL: TJSweens

Is adamantium a ferrous metal? [sm=scratch.gif]


Yes, I believe Magneto was able to manipulate adamantium.
(i don't know if that really means anything...)

Its important yes because now we know for sure that

Bill is not Magneto.

I mean, I don’t see anything budging yet, do you?




Tom Sykes -> RE: General Vikes Talkk (8/26/2026 2:47:33 PM)

Man, JJM not practicing today (ankle) … wondering if he’s going to miss Friday’s preseason game.

Wondering if we’re going to see this guy in purple again at all.

I have no sympathy for KOC if Murray Wentz go down and JJM is all we have to fall back on. Assuming Brosmer is gone … which you HAVE to assume.

At this point, if I were KOC I’d sure as hell be looking at another retread QB to add to Murray Wentz JJM. If nothing else to sit around like a buzzard. aka daniel jones.




Tom Sykes -> RE: General Vikes Talkk (8/26/2026 2:57:51 PM)

I see we dropped CB McGlothern and replaced him with Trey Hawkins, a 6’3 195 lb CB journeyman for WAS/NYG. Probanly just give him a tryout Friday.

Sure wish we would add an insurance QB and C that could stick to the roster. We seem to have enough mystery youth elsewhere.




beo -> RE: General Vikes Talkk (8/26/2026 3:22:46 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

Man, JJM not practicing today (ankle) … wondering if he’s going to miss Friday’s preseason game.

Wondering if we’re going to see this guy in purple again at all.

I have no sympathy for KOC if Murray Wentz go down and JJM is all we have to fall back on. Assuming Brosmer is gone … which you HAVE to assume.

At this point, if I were KOC I’d sure as hell be looking at another retread QB to add to Murray Wentz JJM. If nothing else to sit around like a buzzard. aka daniel jones.


If Murray goes down (or even if he flames out)... hope we lose a lot of close games and let Teasley take a shot at the QBOTF in the draft.




Jeff Jesser -> RE: General Vikes Talkk (8/26/2026 3:50:47 PM)

2024 NFL draft:

1. Caleb Williams
2. Jayden Daniels
3. Drake Maye
.
.
.
.
8. Michael Penix Jr
.
10 Michael Penix Sr

[>:]




Bill Johanesen -> RE: General Vikes Talkk (8/26/2026 3:55:44 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

Man, JJM not practicing today (ankle) … wondering if he’s going to miss Friday’s preseason game.

Wondering if we’re going to see this guy in purple again at all.

I have no sympathy for KOC if Murray Wentz go down and JJM is all we have to fall back on. Assuming Brosmer is gone … which you HAVE to assume.

At this point, if I were KOC I’d sure as hell be looking at another retread QB to add to Murray Wentz JJM. If nothing else to sit around like a buzzard. aka daniel jones.



No doubt preserving him before the blockbuster trade for a four-piece set of ultra-thin handmade crystal stemware. Oddly, the description of the stemware fits for JJM:

Paper-Thin Rims: The lip of the glass has almost no thickness, making it prone to chipping or cracking from minor taps.
Slender Stems: The long pull-stem snaps easily under twisting pressure or accidental lateral force during drying or washing.
Lightweight Lead-Free Crystal: High-end artisanal manufacturing removes heavy stabilizing bulk to maximize wine expression, sacrificing physical durability.




Bill Johanesen -> RE: General Vikes Talkk (8/26/2026 3:57:05 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

2024 NFL draft:

1. Caleb Williams
2. Jayden Daniels
3. Drake Maye
.
.
.
.
8. Michael Penix Jr
.
10 Michael Penix Sr

[>:]


CLASSIC!




David Levine -> RE: General Vikes Talkk (8/26/2026 4:10:22 PM)

Definitely for the best. A game no one wanted to play in, no one wanted to watch and got way too watered down with 3rd and 8th alternates;

ATLANTA — Since 1951 the NFL has conducted some version of the Pro Bowl. The all-star competition has crossed the country and, particularly in the past decade-plus, gone through several different iterations, including turning the game itself into a series of games.

Now, The Athletic has learned, the Pro Bowl is being eliminated.

On Wednesday, league executives presented to team owners the future of the Pro Bowl, which will no longer have a standalone game — be it tackle or flag football — or games. After surveying players over the years, the NFL will now make the Pro Bowl effectively an individual performance award. Eighty-eight players will receive the Pro Bowl honor with no alternates, corralling a key aspect of the all-star event that had gotten out of whack in recent years.




Bill Johanesen -> RE: General Vikes Talkk (8/26/2026 5:35:58 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: David Levine

Definitely for the best. A game no one wanted to play in, no one wanted to watch and got way too watered down with 3rd and 8th alternates;

ATLANTA — Since 1951 the NFL has conducted some version of the Pro Bowl. The all-star competition has crossed the country and, particularly in the past decade-plus, gone through several different iterations, including turning the game itself into a series of games.

Now, The Athletic has learned, the Pro Bowl is being eliminated.

On Wednesday, league executives presented to team owners the future of the Pro Bowl, which will no longer have a standalone game — be it tackle or flag football — or games. After surveying players over the years, the NFL will now make the Pro Bowl effectively an individual performance award. Eighty-eight players will receive the Pro Bowl honor with no alternates, corralling a key aspect of the all-star event that had gotten out of whack in recent years.


Back in the day I was stationed in Hawaii and went back to my alumni at Univ of Hawaii to watch practice. After 'practice' was over, they loaded Warren Sapp into the back of a station wagon with the seats folded down. This was when he was in his prime. He's being typical Warren talking to everyone, even while in the station wagon totally horizontal. Maybe he needed to stretch out his knee or something and he seemed like a happy camper, but I was thinking WTF kind of low-rent operation is this.

And then they had the dumbass beach flag football at Waikiki where a NE RB tore his knee to smithereens.

Good riddance.




Bill Johanesen -> RE: General Vikes Talkk (8/26/2026 5:40:48 PM)

Eighty-eight players will receive the Pro Bowl honor with no alternates, corralling a key aspect of the all-star event that had gotten out of whack in recent years.

88?

That creeps into the previously uncharted PB-4 area unless there are a heck of a lot of newly created 'specialists'.

Right in line with 44% of the teams make the playoffs. Such an achievement!




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