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kgdabom -> RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) (9/5/2014 6:42:37 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: David Levine quote: ORIGINAL: kgdabom quote: ORIGINAL: David Levine quote: ORIGINAL: kgdabom quote: ORIGINAL: David Levine So saying Luck is a rich man's Christian Ponder is a compliment? yes Backhanded at best. OK DL Luck is the Bill Gates version of Christian Ponder. Being simply a rich mans Christian Ponder isn't taking it far enough. Being a better version of crap is hardly a compliment. A Yugo is a car a Ferrari is a Car. A Ferrari is a better version of a car than a Yugo. Ponder is a QB. Luck is a QB. Luck is a better version of a QB than Ponder. Please I basically apologized for calling Luck a rich man's Ponder. I don't think I have to apologize for calling Luck a Bill Gates version of Ponder.

kgdabom -> RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) (9/5/2014 6:43:45 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: djskillz Personally, there's no player I'd trade Andrew Luck for in the game right now. I wouldn't even have to think about it for more than a second. I'm not sure yet. You could possibly have it right.

David Levine -> RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) (9/5/2014 6:45:38 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kgdabom quote: ORIGINAL: David Levine quote: ORIGINAL: kgdabom quote: ORIGINAL: David Levine quote: ORIGINAL: kgdabom quote: ORIGINAL: David Levine So saying Luck is a rich man's Christian Ponder is a compliment? yes Backhanded at best. OK DL Luck is the Bill Gates version of Christian Ponder. Being simply a rich mans Christian Ponder isn't taking it far enough. Being a better version of crap is hardly a compliment. A Yugo is a car a Ferrari is a Car. A Ferrari is a better version of a car than a Yugo. Ponder is a QB. Luck is a QB. Luck is a better version of a QB than Ponder. Please I basically apologized for calling Luck a rich man's Ponder. I don't think I have to apologize for calling Luck a Bill Gates version of Ponder. You've added a qualifier. "A Ferrari is a better version of a car than a Yugo" is not at all the same as saying "A Ferrari is a better version of a Yugo".

djskillz -> RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) (9/5/2014 6:47:29 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kgdabom quote: ORIGINAL: djskillz Personally, there's no player I'd trade Andrew Luck for in the game right now. I wouldn't even have to think about it for more than a second. I'm not sure yet. You could possibly have it right. I don't know that there's a "right" answer. That's just how I feel. I think he's at least in the conversation for best player in the game now, and I think over the next 10 years there's no player I'd rather have. I think some of this is about scheme. Wilson is a very good QB who is perfect for the Seahawks' scheme (they don't ask him to do as much). That doesn't make him better than Luck IMO.

kgdabom -> RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) (9/5/2014 7:49:00 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: David Levine quote: ORIGINAL: kgdabom quote: ORIGINAL: David Levine quote: ORIGINAL: kgdabom quote: ORIGINAL: David Levine quote: ORIGINAL: kgdabom quote: ORIGINAL: David Levine So saying Luck is a rich man's Christian Ponder is a compliment? yes Backhanded at best. OK DL Luck is the Bill Gates version of Christian Ponder. Being simply a rich mans Christian Ponder isn't taking it far enough. Being a better version of crap is hardly a compliment. A Yugo is a car a Ferrari is a Car. A Ferrari is a better version of a car than a Yugo. Ponder is a QB. Luck is a QB. Luck is a better version of a QB than Ponder. Please I basically apologized for calling Luck a rich man's Ponder. I don't think I have to apologize for calling Luck a Bill Gates version of Ponder. You've added a qualifier. "A Ferrari is a better version of a car than a Yugo" is not at all the same as saying "A Ferrari is a better version of a Yugo". OK DL whatever. I would think that I was comparing them as QBs was obvious. IN what other way would I have been comparing them.

kgdabom -> RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) (9/5/2014 7:52:01 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: djskillz quote: ORIGINAL: kgdabom quote: ORIGINAL: djskillz Personally, there's no player I'd trade Andrew Luck for in the game right now. I wouldn't even have to think about it for more than a second. I'm not sure yet. You could possibly have it right. I don't know that there's a "right" answer. That's just how I feel. I think he's at least in the conversation for best player in the game now, and I think over the next 10 years there's no player I'd rather have. I think some of this is about scheme. Wilson is a very good QB who is perfect for the Seahawks' scheme (they don't ask him to do as much). That doesn't make him better than Luck IMO. If I were to pick one player in the NFL to win me a game right now it would be Drew Brees, Manning, or Aaron Rodgers. SO I disagree about Luck being the best in the NFL right now. Considering youth and projecting a career for him is where IMO Luck is a good choice for best player for a franchise.

Guest -> RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) (9/5/2014 8:42:05 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: djskillz Personally, there's no player I'd trade Andrew Luck for in the game right now. I wouldn't even have to think about it for more than a second. Personally I wouldn't trade Teddy Bridgewater for any player in the league right now.....[;)] It would be like if the 49ers traded Joe Montana before he took over for Steve DeBerg.....[;)]

Todd M -> RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) (9/5/2014 9:53:50 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kgdabom If I were to pick one player in the NFL to win me a game right now it would be Drew Brees, Manning, or Aaron Rodgers. The national academy of hedging your bets called. You win! Come collect your Hedgie.

thebigo -> RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) (9/5/2014 10:08:12 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Todd M quote: ORIGINAL: kgdabom If I were to pick one player in the NFL to win me a game right now it would be Drew Brees, Manning, or Aaron Rodgers. The national academy of hedging your bets called. You win! Come collect your Hedgie. [&:] Is that the Canadian national academy of hedging your bets, or the U.S.?

SoMnFan -> RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) (9/5/2014 10:10:56 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thebigo quote: ORIGINAL: Todd M quote: ORIGINAL: kgdabom If I were to pick one player in the NFL to win me a game right now it would be Drew Brees, Manning, or Aaron Rodgers. The national academy of hedging your bets called. You win! Come collect your Hedgie. [&:] Is that the Canadian national academy of hedging your bets, or the U.S.? Marty hold one of those titles .... [&:]

thebigo -> RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) (9/5/2014 10:11:25 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kgdabom quote: ORIGINAL: djskillz quote: ORIGINAL: kgdabom quote: ORIGINAL: djskillz Personally, there's no player I'd trade Andrew Luck for in the game right now. I wouldn't even have to think about it for more than a second. I'm not sure yet. You could possibly have it right. I don't know that there's a "right" answer. That's just how I feel. I think he's at least in the conversation for best player in the game now, and I think over the next 10 years there's no player I'd rather have. I think some of this is about scheme. Wilson is a very good QB who is perfect for the Seahawks' scheme (they don't ask him to do as much). That doesn't make him better than Luck IMO. If I were to pick one player in the NFL to win me a game right now it would be Drew Brees, Manning, or Aaron Rodgers. SO I disagree about Luck being the best in the NFL right now. Considering youth and projecting a career for him is where IMO Luck is a good choice for best player for a franchise. Who are you disagreeing with? I don't think anyone said that. Or is contending that.

thebigo -> RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) (9/5/2014 10:14:54 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: David Levine quote: ORIGINAL: kgdabom quote: ORIGINAL: David Levine quote: ORIGINAL: kgdabom quote: ORIGINAL: David Levine quote: ORIGINAL: kgdabom quote: ORIGINAL: David Levine So saying Luck is a rich man's Christian Ponder is a compliment? yes Backhanded at best. OK DL Luck is the Bill Gates version of Christian Ponder. Being simply a rich mans Christian Ponder isn't taking it far enough. Being a better version of crap is hardly a compliment. A Yugo is a car a Ferrari is a Car. A Ferrari is a better version of a car than a Yugo. Ponder is a QB. Luck is a QB. Luck is a better version of a QB than Ponder. Please I basically apologized for calling Luck a rich man's Ponder. I don't think I have to apologize for calling Luck a Bill Gates version of Ponder. You've added a qualifier. "A Ferrari is a better version of a car than a Yugo" is not at all the same as saying "A Ferrari is a better version of a Yugo". Can we be more silly?

Bill Jandro -> RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) (9/6/2014 10:48:30 AM)
At this point in their careers it is simply not possible to compare Luck vs Wilson due to the teams they play on. Wilson simply does not have to carry his team and can punt w/o worrying. Luck has no defense or running game and simply has to carry his team on his shoulders. If, and when these qb's supporting casts become more similar any comparison will have too many holes in it.

Guest -> RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) (9/6/2014 10:59:44 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro At this point in their careers it is simply not possible to compare Luck vs Wilson due to the teams they play on. Wilson simply does not have to carry his team and can punt w/o worrying. Luck has no defense or running game and simply has to carry his team on his shoulders. If, and when these qb's supporting casts become more similar any comparison will have too many holes in it. That's a decades old debate Bill. Was Terry Bradshaw a great QB, or was the team around him just so overwhelmingly good that it propped him up? Was Troy Aikman that good, when Dan Marino was obviously more dynamic as a passer? Andrew Luck is the prototypical QB that NFL GM's have wet dreams over, both physically, and mentally. Perhaps his team hasn't grown to his level around him yet? Luck is an incredible talent, and he will be great for years. However Russell Wilson has had to make all the critical plays in his couple seasons that have propelled the Seahawks to heights a once downtrodden franchise has never been. Just listen to the freakin guy talk, he's two steps ahead in his mind, and is a superior talent in his own right.... I like both Luck, and Wilson.....

Murph -> RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) (9/7/2014 7:29:50 AM)
My prediction for season record is 10-6. I'm not sure if that gets us to the playoffs? Next year we are contenders!

Duane Sampson -> RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) (9/7/2014 8:49:07 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Murph My prediction for season record is 10-6. I'm not sure if that gets us to the playoffs? Next year we are contenders! I'll go with TOE.... 16-0 Then we'll adjust as needed.

kgdabom -> RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) (9/7/2014 9:12:41 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Todd M quote: ORIGINAL: kgdabom If I were to pick one player in the NFL to win me a game right now it would be Drew Brees, Manning, or Aaron Rodgers. The national academy of hedging your bets called. You win! Come collect your Hedgie. LOL yeah. It was pretty wimpy. It was just to show that Russell Wilson was NOT amongst those I would pick. I think the one player and I hate to admit it that I would pick would be Rodgers.

kgdabom -> RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) (9/7/2014 9:15:45 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thebigo quote: ORIGINAL: kgdabom quote: ORIGINAL: djskillz quote: ORIGINAL: kgdabom quote: ORIGINAL: djskillz Personally, there's no player I'd trade Andrew Luck for in the game right now. I wouldn't even have to think about it for more than a second. I'm not sure yet. You could possibly have it right. I don't know that there's a "right" answer. That's just how I feel. I think he's at least in the conversation for best player in the game now, and I think over the next 10 years there's no player I'd rather have. I think some of this is about scheme. Wilson is a very good QB who is perfect for the Seahawks' scheme (they don't ask him to do as much). That doesn't make him better than Luck IMO. If I were to pick one player in the NFL to win me a game right now it would be Drew Brees, Manning, or Aaron Rodgers. SO I disagree about Luck being the best in the NFL right now. Considering youth and projecting a career for him is where IMO Luck is a good choice for best player for a franchise. Who are you disagreeing with? I don't think anyone said that. Or is contending that. In this very post above DJSkilz who I was replying to said that Luck was in the conversation for best player in the game right now. The disagreement is that I don't think he is there yet. Who knows if he will ever get there but that I think is a good chance.

kgdabom -> RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) (9/7/2014 9:18:47 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Murph My prediction for season record is 10-6. I'm not sure if that gets us to the playoffs? Next year we are contenders! 10-6 Historically gets you to the playoffs a strong majority of the time. Maybe somebody has the percentage but I know it is over 50% and wouldn't be surprised if it is 80% of the time.

Bill Jandro -> RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) (9/7/2014 9:26:18 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kgdabom quote: ORIGINAL: Murph My prediction for season record is 10-6. I'm not sure if that gets us to the playoffs? Next year we are contenders! 10-6 Historically gets you to the playoffs a strong majority of the time. Maybe somebody has the percentage but I know it is over 50% and wouldn't be surprised if it is 80% of the time. Pretty sure 8-8 won the NFC North last year

Todd M -> RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) (9/7/2014 3:06:59 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Todd M I see 39-12 Vikes. Closest prediction I do believe.

thebigo -> RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) (9/7/2014 4:45:04 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kgdabom quote: ORIGINAL: thebigo quote: ORIGINAL: kgdabom quote: ORIGINAL: djskillz quote: ORIGINAL: kgdabom quote: ORIGINAL: djskillz Personally, there's no player I'd trade Andrew Luck for in the game right now. I wouldn't even have to think about it for more than a second. I'm not sure yet. You could possibly have it right. I don't know that there's a "right" answer. That's just how I feel. I think he's at least in the conversation for best player in the game now, and I think over the next 10 years there's no player I'd rather have. I think some of this is about scheme. Wilson is a very good QB who is perfect for the Seahawks' scheme (they don't ask him to do as much). That doesn't make him better than Luck IMO. If I were to pick one player in the NFL to win me a game right now it would be Drew Brees, Manning, or Aaron Rodgers. SO I disagree about Luck being the best in the NFL right now. Considering youth and projecting a career for him is where IMO Luck is a good choice for best player for a franchise. Who are you disagreeing with? I don't think anyone said that. Or is contending that. In this very post above DJSkilz who I was replying to said that Luck was in the conversation for best player in the game right now. The disagreement is that I don't think he is there yet. Who knows if he will ever get there but that I think is a good chance. In the conversation. He didn't say he felt that Luck is the best player in the NFL, just in the conversation.

Ricky J -> RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) (9/7/2014 5:37:23 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thebigo quote: ORIGINAL: kgdabom quote: ORIGINAL: thebigo quote: ORIGINAL: kgdabom quote: ORIGINAL: djskillz quote: ORIGINAL: kgdabom quote: ORIGINAL: djskillz Personally, there's no player I'd trade Andrew Luck for in the game right now. I wouldn't even have to think about it for more than a second. I'm not sure yet. You could possibly have it right. I don't know that there's a "right" answer. That's just how I feel. I think he's at least in the conversation for best player in the game now, and I think over the next 10 years there's no player I'd rather have. I think some of this is about scheme. Wilson is a very good QB who is perfect for the Seahawks' scheme (they don't ask him to do as much). That doesn't make him better than Luck IMO. If I were to pick one player in the NFL to win me a game right now it would be Drew Brees, Manning, or Aaron Rodgers. SO I disagree about Luck being the best in the NFL right now. Considering youth and projecting a career for him is where IMO Luck is a good choice for best player for a franchise. Who are you disagreeing with? I don't think anyone said that. Or is contending that. In this very post above DJSkilz who I was replying to said that Luck was in the conversation for best player in the game right now. The disagreement is that I don't think he is there yet. Who knows if he will ever get there but that I think is a good chance. In the conversation. He didn't say he felt that Luck is the best player in the NFL, just in the conversation. And he is in the conversation ... unless I'm not reading this right

drviking -> RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) (9/7/2014 9:45:12 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Todd M quote: ORIGINAL: Todd M I see 39-12 Vikes. Closest prediction I do believe. [&:] what were you thinking, man? 12.....pfffffffttt....

kgdabom -> RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) (9/7/2014 10:45:45 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thebigo quote: ORIGINAL: kgdabom quote: ORIGINAL: thebigo quote: ORIGINAL: kgdabom quote: ORIGINAL: djskillz quote: ORIGINAL: kgdabom quote: ORIGINAL: djskillz Personally, there's no player I'd trade Andrew Luck for in the game right now. I wouldn't even have to think about it for more than a second. I'm not sure yet. You could possibly have it right. I don't know that there's a "right" answer. That's just how I feel. I think he's at least in the conversation for best player in the game now, and I think over the next 10 years there's no player I'd rather have. I think some of this is about scheme. Wilson is a very good QB who is perfect for the Seahawks' scheme (they don't ask him to do as much). That doesn't make him better than Luck IMO. If I were to pick one player in the NFL to win me a game right now it would be Drew Brees, Manning, or Aaron Rodgers. SO I disagree about Luck being the best in the NFL right now. Considering youth and projecting a career for him is where IMO Luck is a good choice for best player for a franchise. Who are you disagreeing with? I don't think anyone said that. Or is contending that. In this very post above DJSkilz who I was replying to said that Luck was in the conversation for best player in the game right now. The disagreement is that I don't think he is there yet. Who knows if he will ever get there but that I think is a good chance. In the conversation. He didn't say he felt that Luck is the best player in the NFL, just in the conversation. Right and I disagreed with that. That was the disagreement.

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