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kgdabom -> RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) (4/22/2024 8:44:22 PM)

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ORIGINAL: marty

I don't see any 'ridiculous' scenarios in your predictions Chris or KGDABOM, wouldn't it be cool if one of us got them all right ?

Anyone think Maye or Daniels could last until 8th or later ?

I like your trade scenario KGDABOM, I like it for the Vikings, not having to give up next year's 1st rounder. This is fun, I hope a few more people make predictions on the 1st 11, but if not, I am happy 3 of us did it.

Do I expect it? No. Do I think it could happen. Absolutely.



kgdabom -> RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) (4/22/2024 8:46:45 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Chris Olson

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: Chris Olson

the Jets would take Odunze in a heartbeat in your scenario, marty

Today I think this is a potential playout:

1. Williams-Chicago
2. Daniels- Washington
3. Maye-Minnesota
4. MHJ-Arizona
5. Nabers-LAC
6. Odunze-NYG
7. Alt-Tenn
8. Turner-ATL
9. Verse-Chicago
10. Fuaga-Jets
11. JJMcC-NE

I think the Jets would prefer Bowers to Odunze. Odunze is supposed to be very good, but Bowers from everything I have seen is better.

why would they want Bowers when they have Conklin?!
lol
I think Odunze as a co-#1 WR is equally as useful to a great TE...I know Bowers is ranked very highly, though

plus everyone says Rodgers doesn't really know what to do with a TE anyway

I'm just going off what I hear on Bowers mostly. Some believe he is a total game changer and the best player in the draft. I could see the Chargers taking him at 5 if they don't trade back.



kgdabom -> RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) (4/22/2024 9:19:58 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Chris Olson

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

My first 11 with a 3 way trade Vikings getting pick 4, Cards getting 5 and 23, Chargers getting 11 and 27.
1: Williams Bears
2: Daniels Commies
3: Maye Patriots
4: McCarthy Vikings
5: Harrison Jr Cards
6: Nabers Giants
7: Alt Tennessee
8: Turner Falcons
9: Odunze Bears
10: Bowers Jets
11: Fuaga Chargers
Bonus Picks
12 Nix Broncos
13 Penix Raiders

I like the bonus picks

Do you like them because you think they are good picks or because that means the Vikings don't get them?



kgdabom -> RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) (4/22/2024 9:22:14 PM)

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ORIGINAL: marty

There is so many ways a draft could end up going, it may be difficult for any of us to even get the 1st 6 picks right.

There is still time for others to join in, we're picking the 1st 11 picks of the draft, 1 point for the player, 1 point for the team, for a total of 22 points.

Marty what comes around goes around. You need to get your Draft Challenge done.



marty -> RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) (4/23/2024 1:55:54 AM)

Sure KGDABOM, I will do that before the draft starts.

Thank you for doing the 1st 11.

This draft should be a blast!!!



kgdabom -> RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) (4/23/2024 5:19:43 AM)

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ORIGINAL: marty

Sure KGDABOM, I will do that before the draft starts.

Thank you for doing the 1st 11.

This draft should be a blast!!!

I am flat out dreading this draft. Sheer terror at what Kwesi might do.



marty -> RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) (4/23/2024 8:02:21 AM)

This is probably the most I have ever been excited about a draft.

No matter who they draft, I'm going to assume they got it right, until proven otherwise.



Ricky J -> RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) (4/23/2024 8:56:58 AM)

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ORIGINAL: marty

This is probably the most I have ever been excited about a draft.

No matter who they draft, I'm going to assume they got it right, until proven otherwise.


Good plan.

re: until proven otherwise

You know you're going to be in the minority, right? ;)



marty -> RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) (4/23/2024 10:19:58 AM)

You know the Green Day song "Minority" ? Great song.

I prefer being in the minority, most of the time.



marty -> RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) (4/23/2024 10:22:10 AM)

While I am VERY excited about the draft, I think it will be a little bit anti-climactic, assuming the Vikings trade up and have only one 1st round pick.

It will be a little bit of a disappointment if they pay too much (3 1sts is too much for me), especially if it's a late riser like McCarthy.



kgdabom -> RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) (4/24/2024 10:07:56 AM)

Prediction of what I'll be doing tomorrow night. If we do what I'm dreading I will bash it a couple times then resign myself to it. The five stages of grief.
Denial. I'm not even allowing myself that one.
Anger yep I'll do that,
depression I'm already doing that,
Bargaining I'm already doing that as in I can live with trading up for McCarthy as long as he doesn't cost one iota more than 11 and 23
and finally acceptance.



Trekgeekscott -> RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) (4/24/2024 10:26:31 AM)

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

Prediction of what I'll be doing tomorrow night. If we do what I'm dreading I will bash it a couple times then resign myself to it. The five stages of grief? Denial. I'm not even allowing myself that one. Anger yep I'll do that, depression I've already been doing that, Bargaining I've kind of been doing that as in I can live with trading up for McCarthy as long as he doesn't cost one iota more than 11 and 23 and finally acceptance.



I have zero control of what is to come, so I choose to not get emotionally invested in it.

They will trade or they wont.
They will draft who they draft.

and I will root for the Vikings with no less excitement than I have before.



kgdabom -> RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) (4/24/2024 10:28:37 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

quote:

ORIGINAL: kgdabom

Prediction of what I'll be doing tomorrow night. If we do what I'm dreading I will bash it a couple times then resign myself to it. The five stages of grief? Denial. I'm not even allowing myself that one. Anger yep I'll do that, depression I've already been doing that, Bargaining I've kind of been doing that as in I can live with trading up for McCarthy as long as he doesn't cost one iota more than 11 and 23 and finally acceptance.



I have zero control of what is to come, so I choose to not get emotionally invested in it.

They will trade or they wont.
They will draft who they draft.

and I will root for the Vikings with no less excitement than I have before.

Good choice, but I'm not wired that way.



kgdabom -> RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) (4/24/2024 8:21:46 PM)

1. Williams
2. Daniels
3. Maye
4. Harrison Jr
5. Alt
6. Nabers
7. Fuaga
8. McCarthy
9. Odunze
10. Bowers
11. Turner
12. Nix
13. Penix
14. Q Mitchell
15. Verse
16. Murphy II
17. Latham
18. Arnold
19. DeJean
20. KoolAid
21. J Newton
22. Wiggins
23. Latu
24. Fashanu
25. Fautanu
26. Chop Robinson
27. Mims
28. Brian Thomas
29. Darius Robinson
30. Barton
31. Jackson Powers-Johnson
32. Adonai Mitchell
This is my version 9.0. This is my hopeful one that I don't really believe where the Vikings don't give up pick 23 to get JJ. They trade with the Falcons and take him at 8. In a very Kwesi move the Vikings take the ridiculously talented, but injury risk Latu at pick 23. Barring some big draft news coming out this will be my final edition.



marty -> RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) (4/28/2024 10:08:32 PM)

KGDABOM, I think you won my 1st 11 picks challenge, but I haven't scored them yet.



marty -> RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) (4/28/2024 10:15:44 PM)

Interesting that Buffalo traded with KC, allowing KC to get a speedy WR.



kgdabom -> RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) (4/29/2024 12:46:28 PM)

McCarthy will start by week 4 or earlier.



marty -> RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) (5/4/2024 3:41:12 AM)

In the next 2 years, there will be a blowup between McCarthy and KOC, and McCarthy will complain that we don't run the ball enough, and that that is part of the reason play action doesn't work.



Todd M -> RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) (5/6/2024 5:56:38 PM)

We’re not going to make it to 0/60.

SB 59 or 60 is ours.

Bill Parcels: For the rest of your lives no one will ever be able to say you couldn’t get it done….within 60 tries.



kgdabom -> RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) (5/17/2024 4:17:23 PM)

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

McCarthy will start by week 4 or earlier.

I'm going to change this prediction. With the schedule coming out with us playing in London week 5 and having the bye week 6 I'll go with a wimpier prediction of McCarthy starting by week 7 or sooner.



Todd M -> RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) (5/17/2024 4:27:07 PM)

I don’t think JJM is going to start a game this year. Maybe one at the end of were eliminated or seeding is set. I hope he gets some opportunities to wrap up a game or 2 though.

I see KOC being pretty firm on sitting JJM for the year.



David Levine -> RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) (5/17/2024 4:54:55 PM)

2024 NFL rookie quarterbacks: Team fits, roles, projections
Jordan Reed

Eleven quarterbacks were drafted in the 2024 NFL draft, and six of them were selected in the first 12 picks -- a common draft era record (since 1967). Five of them have clear paths to starting this season, while others could be future options and/or reliable backups.

How does each quarterback fit with his new team? We took a closer look at what's next for all 11 draft picks. NFL draft analyst Jordan Reid made sense of each quarterback's scheme fit and how they could excel in the pros, while our NFL Nation reporters focused on each QB's expected role with his new team. And for first-rounders, Reid picked one area where the passer could lead the league in short order, while fantasy football analyst Mike Clay projected rookie-year stat lines.

J.J. McCarthy, Minnesota Vikings
Why he fits in Minnesota: Minnesota didn't re-sign Kirk Cousins and chose to turn the page to McCarthy, who now enters a great situation for a young passer. Yes, the Vikings' scheme can be challenging and asks a lot of the quarterback, but the surrounding talent should ease McCarthy's transition. After all, Justin Jefferson is running routes for this Minnesota offense. And the Vikings led the NFL in under-center passing plays (207 dropbacks) and play-action snaps (217) last season, two categories where McCarthy had plenty of experience in Michigan's scheme.

For the time being, Sam Darnold might be a veteran placeholder under center, buying some time for McCarthy to transition to the pro game and prepare to take over. -- Reid

How the Vikings can set him up for success: The Vikings have built an infrastructure to minimize the chance of McCarthy having to play before he's ready. The plan features Darnold, whom the Vikings paid $10 million to provide credible-enough snaps in the meantime. And whenever McCarthy does enter the lineup, he'll drop into a talented offense that will include pass-catchers Jefferson, Jordan Addison and T.J. Hockenson. The advantage of presumed continuity of offensive playcalling, via coach Kevin O'Connell, should also not be discounted.

Ultimately, general manager Kwesi Adofo-Mensah said, the team is committed to ensuring "our hands are clean" during McCarthy's early stages. -- Kevin Seifert

The area he could lead the league in five years: QBR on play-action. Efficiency off these concepts is a strength of McCarthy's game, and Minnesota runs a lot of it. He's comfortable turning his back to the defense and resetting his eyes prior to making throws. His 90.4 QBR and 76.3% completion rate on play-action ranked sixth and seventh in the country, respectively, last season. -- Reid

Clay's 2024 projection: 3,527 passing yards, 20 touchdown throws, 13 interceptions (197 rushing yards, two touchdown runs)

https://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2024/insider/story/_/id/40139018/2024-nfl-rookie-quarterbacks-team-fits-projections-draft



David Levine -> RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) (5/17/2024 4:55:33 PM)

Quarterback questions for 32 NFL teams: Contracts, QB1 races
Dan Graziano, senior NFL national reporter

Is J.J. McCarthy ready to start?

The Vikings will spend their entire offseason trying to answer this question after selecting McCarthy with the 10th pick of the draft. The questions about McCarthy coming out of Michigan centered largely on the fact that he wasn't asked to do as much in college as his quarterback draft classmates were -- that he hasn't demonstrated the ability to deliver as a high-volume passer (22.1 pass attempts per game last season, 92nd in the FBS). The Vikings (and other teams) believe he has the skills to do that at the NFL level with the right situation and the right coaching, and Minnesota is a place that offers him both.

The Vikings have a specific step-by-step plan for McCarthy's development, and if he hits each step, odds are he opens the 2024 season as the starter. If not, and they have to keep working with him while starting Sam Darnold, they're fine with that, too.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/insider/story/_/id/40139374/2024-nfl-quarterback-questions-32-teams-battles-contracts#MIN



marty -> RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) (7/26/2024 10:53:25 PM)

Darnold will throw 3 TDs in an opening game win against the Giants, he will look great.

Then Darnold will get hurt in the 1st half against SF, and will miss the rest of the season.

McCarthy will be inconsistent, will show some potential, and will lead the Vikings to finish with a 5-12 record.



kgdabom -> RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) (7/29/2024 10:18:43 AM)

I'm not quite ready to predict McCarthy starts game one, but as of right now it wouldn't surprise me. He will definitely start by game 7 or sooner is my prediction.



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