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Jim Frenette -> RE: Gopher Basketball (Mens) (9/26/2010 11:13:57 AM)

Well the Gophers got Coleman. They have him rated as 34 in nation at his position but when he had 2 other choices of iowa St and Santa Clara doesn't say to much about him




TJSweens -> RE: Gopher Basketball (Mens) (9/26/2010 8:12:31 PM)

I've watched him play. I'm not all that impressed.




David Levine -> RE: Gopher Basketball (Mens) (10/16/2010 12:11:39 PM)

Robbie Hummel tears his ACL for the 2nd time in 2010. Huge blow to Purdue.

http://www.jconline.com/article/20101016/NEWS0901/101016007




panndder -> RE: Gopher Basketball (Mens) (10/30/2010 5:35:14 PM)

Andre Hollins commits to the Gophers. He's a combo guard and very articulate/intelligent. Seems like he'll be a great fit.

As an added bonus can you imagine Sid trying to keep Andre and Austin Hollins (no relation) straight? [&:]




Mr. Ed -> RE: Gopher Basketball (Mens) (10/30/2010 8:54:09 PM)

Details:

Andre Hollins, a three-star shooting guard on Rivals.com, committed to the Gophers Saturday, according to a source close to the program.
The Memphis, Tenn., prep star from White Station High School chose Minnesota over Auburn, Mississippi, Harvard and Stanford.
The Gophers aren't sure where they'll play Hollins, a combo guard. He's capable of playing both point guard and shooting guard, according to White Station coach Jesus Patino.
"If they want to slow it down, he can do it," Patino said about Hollins, who is the 40th-ranked shooting guard in the 2011 class on Rivals.com. "If they want to push it, he can do it."
Hollins will also help the Gophers academically. He recently scored a 28 on the ACT, according to Patino. Offers from Stanford and Harvard indicate that he's scholastically equipped to handle the workload both on the court and off the court.
Hollins, not to be confused with freshman and Tennessee native Austin Hollins, joins Hopkins forward Joe Coleman in Smith's 2011 recruiting class.
The Gophers will lose senior point guard Al Nolen and senior shooting guard Blake Hoffarber after this season. Hollins and Coleman have the talent and athleticism to contribute next season.
The Gophers, however, are still searching for a true point guard in the 2011 class, after New Hampshire prep star Naadir Tharpe chose Kansas earlier this month.




Mr. Ed -> RE: Gopher Basketball (Mens) (11/1/2010 1:29:14 PM)

Strib:

Tubby Smith says he'll start Al Nolen, Blake Hoffarber, Rodney Williams, Colton Iverson and Ralph Sampson III during Tuesday's exhibition against Northeastern State at Williams Arena.
But newcomers Trevor Mbakwe, Maurice Walker, Chip Armelin and Austin Hollins have been impressive in practice, Smith said at Monday's media availability.
"Trevor is playing extremely well," Smith said. "Maurice Walker is playing extremely well in the post. Austin Hollins and Chip are pushing Blake and Rodney, so we've got some good depth. And that's going to be the key." 
Smith used Iverson and Sampson in his starting lineup one time last season when the Gophers suffered a 66-65 loss to Texas A&M at the 76 Classic in Anaheim, Calif. During the 2008-09 campaign, Minnesota went 12-7 when Smith started the 6-11 post players.
Smith doesn't give reporters access to practice.



But a source close to the team said Mbakwe and Devoe Joseph, last season's hero in the Big Ten tourney, may crack the starting lineup by the time the conference season begins in late December if they continue to excel in practice. Hollins has an outside shot to end up with the starting five, too, the source said.
It's clear that the Gophers have options with Mbakwe and a talented group of freshmen.
I think the Gophers will go with the lineup they're using Tuesday until there's a reason to make a switch. That reason may come as early as mid-November during the Puerto Rico Tipoff. If the Gophers beat Western Kentucky in that tournament's opening round, they'll probably face North Carolina.
A win over the Tar Heels would be huge for the season and the program. But they'll have to match North Carolina's athleticism.


This is probably their most athletic group:
G Al Nolen
G Devoe Joseph
F Rodney Williams
F Trevor Mbakwe
C Ralph Sampson III


If they wanted length and athleticism, they could use this group:



G Devoe Joseph
G Austin Hollins
G Rodney Williams
F Trevor Mbakwe
C Ralph Sampson III


Smith always says that he's not concerned about who starts because he plays so many guys. If a reserve enters a game and makes an impact, he'll leave him on the floor.
Still, the starters often dictate the pace. A quick start against Purdue in last year's Big Ten Tournament led to one of the team's best performances under Smith. A slow start at Michigan last season resulted in one of the squad's worst losses in his four years.
So starters matter. But I picked Minnesota to finish fourth in the Big Ten because of its depth.
 "We want to play our pace, to push the ball in transition, get after them defensively," Smith said. "And in that style of play, we'll play a lot of people."




TJSweens -> RE: Gopher Basketball (Mens) (11/1/2010 1:38:05 PM)

Why is Nolan being handed his starting job back? The team played better with Joseph. 




panndder -> RE: Gopher Basketball (Mens) (11/8/2010 9:17:16 PM)

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

Why is Nolan being handed his starting job back? The team played better with Joseph. 


Joseph is coming back from a leg injury and is more of a combo guard. What you said is definitely true, but I don't think it had a lot to do with Nolen being out.

Gophers squeak out a close one against Winona State tonight. DII, but a lot of DI transfers including Anthony Tucker who could start for the Gophers. Sloppy play all-around, but Mbakwe gets a double-double (animal style).




Jeff Jesser -> RE: Gopher Basketball (Mens) (11/9/2010 9:56:54 AM)

The Strib has an article that seems to indicate that Joseph not playing isn't all related to his injury.  In other words, Tubby is thinking of S-canning him for some reason.  They didn't say why.




Mr. Ed -> RE: Gopher Basketball (Mens) (11/9/2010 1:52:00 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

The Strib has an article that seems to indicate that Joseph not playing isn't all related to his injury.  In other words, Tubby is thinking of S-canning him for some reason.  They didn't say why.


Gophers coach Tubby Smith announced he will make a decision in the coming days about the status of junior guard Devoe Joseph, who did not play Tuesday. A source close to the team said Joseph, who is arguably the team's best offensive performer, played only nine minutes in the team's first exhibition last week because of a leg injury. But Smith said Monday that there was more to his decision than Joseph's health. "We're going to see. I've got some things I need to talk to him about and we'll make that decision soon," Smith said when asked if Joseph will play in the team's season opener Friday against Wofford at Williams Arena.




panndder -> RE: Gopher Basketball (Mens) (11/9/2010 8:28:01 PM)

An academic issue at this point in the year is not a huge concern. Likely he failed a test, skipped a study session, or skipped too many classes. The NCAA does not get involved until his GPA drops below a certain threshold, so this is internal get your shit straight type stuff...if that's the case.




Mr. Ed -> RE: Gopher Basketball (Mens) (11/12/2010 5:56:09 AM)

Joseph Suspended Indefinitely



As the Gophers prepared to face Wofford in their season opener Friday night at Williams Arena, Tubby Smith announced another major challenge for a program that has encountered a slew of them since last year.
Devoe Joseph has been suspended indefinitely because of off-court issues, Smith said Thursday. The standout junior, who led the Gophers to the Big Ten tournament title game in March, will not travel to Puerto Rico, where the team will participate in next week's Puerto Rico Tipoff, featuring North Carolina and West Virginia.
"He had some off-the-court issues and some other things we had to deal with," Smith said. "And he's working his way through it. Hopefully he'll do all the things required of him to get back in good grace. He'll be practicing, but he won't be traveling. I don't want to get into all the particulars, but there are some things he's got to address. He's committing to doing it. We're certainly going to miss him, especially for the foreseeable future. And hopefully he gets what he has to get done so he can get back on the board at some point in time during season. And at this stage, I'm not sure when that will be."
Smith would not say how many games he expects Joseph to miss but called the suspension "long term." But even if he returns after the Puerto Rico trip, he'll miss at least five regular-season games.
When Joseph, who averaged 9.4 points last season, didn't play in Monday's exhibition against Winona State, Smith said he held him out as a precaution because of a leg injury. But he also admitted that Joseph had some off-court issues.
It's another blow for a program that can't seem to escape drama these days. Last year began with Royce White and Trevor Mbakwe battling legal situations. Al Nolen missed most of the Big Ten season because of academic problems. Even Smith, who was involved in the highly publicized Jimmy Williams trial over the summer, has not been spared.
Smith said Joseph's situation "hit him" a few days ago. He told the team the news about Joseph on Thursday night.
"It's just going to take an effort from the whole team to fill his shoes," Nolen said Thursday.




Jim Frenette -> RE: Gopher Basketball (Mens) (11/12/2010 9:46:05 AM)

If it's grades, then didn't he learn from seeing Nolen sitting on the bench last year?




twinsfan -> RE: Gopher Basketball (Mens) (11/13/2010 9:27:57 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Jim Frenette

If it's grades, then didn't he learn from seeing Nolen sitting on the bench last year?

It's not grades. If it was grades, they'd just say so.




Jeff Jesser -> RE: Gopher Basketball (Mens) (11/15/2010 7:22:57 PM)

Outta staters.  The game tonight is being shown on ESPN classic.




Mr. Ed -> RE: Gopher Basketball (Mens) (11/15/2010 9:29:47 PM)

ESPNU for me

Hollins looks like a nice complimentary shooter. Getting more PT than Williams.




Mr. Ed -> RE: Gopher Basketball (Mens) (11/15/2010 10:12:02 PM)

Gophs win by 7. Some more Tubby stall at the end and let them back in, but they hang on.

Mbakwe is a difference maker. FINALLY a guy that gets posted up and doesn't move back when the other team's player tries to back him in.




panndder -> RE: Gopher Basketball (Mens) (11/15/2010 11:18:44 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

Gophs win by 7. Some more Tubby stall at the end and let them back in, but they hang on.

Mbakwe is a difference maker. FINALLY a guy that gets posted up and doesn't move back when the other team's player tries to back him in.


He really is. He's everywhere on the floor.

Williams ended up seeing more time than Hollins I believe, but both looked great. Williams has been more productive in these past two days than in all of last season.

Hoffarber hasn't done much to impress me these first two games (and yes I know he ended up with like 15 points). He's not been BAD but you want more out of your senior starting guard. When he's not hitting the threes he just doesn't get it done for me. Joseph cannot come back soon enough.




Mr. Ed -> RE: Gopher Basketball (Mens) (11/15/2010 11:51:53 PM)

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ORIGINAL: panndder

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ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

Gophs win by 7. Some more Tubby stall at the end and let them back in, but they hang on.

Mbakwe is a difference maker. FINALLY a guy that gets posted up and doesn't move back when the other team's player tries to back him in.


He really is. He's everywhere on the floor.

Williams ended up seeing more time than Hollins I believe, but both looked great. Williams has been more productive in these past two days than in all of last season.

Hoffarber hasn't done much to impress me these first two games (and yes I know he ended up with like 15 points). He's not been BAD but you want more out of your senior starting guard. When he's not hitting the threes he just doesn't get it done for me. Joseph cannot come back soon enough.


Williams did get more pt, but early 2nd half it was Hollins. Then he barely played the rest of the way.

W/o Nolen in there, the offense has no tempo.

Hoffarber forces those runners.

Multiple silly turnovers, but they hung in there to win.




Pete M. -> RE: Gopher Basketball (Mens) (11/16/2010 10:26:16 AM)

This team is at its best when Nolen is getting into the lane and dropping it off to the bigs. When he pounds the ball outside the 3-pt line, the offense goes stagnant. One of my great frustrations with Nolen is that he's never been able to become a poor man's Rajon Rondo. It's not even about getting a better jump shot -- it's about making your teammates better. Plus, he can't finish in the lane like Rondo can.

And I really like Austin Hollins. He's a smart, smart player, and I think the Quincy Lewis comps are really proving true. He'll be a rock for Tubby for these four years.




TJSweens -> RE: Gopher Basketball (Mens) (11/16/2010 11:17:34 AM)

The problem is that teams back off Nolan to take away the drive and dare him to shoot. He can't.




Jim Frenette -> RE: Gopher Basketball (Mens) (11/16/2010 11:23:24 AM)

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

The problem is that teams back off Nolan to take away the drive and dare him to shoot. He can't.


Hard to drive into a zone also. Until they start making 3pt shots regularly, teams will take away the big guys inside




drew -> RE: Gopher Basketball (Mens) (11/16/2010 5:43:39 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Jim Frenette

quote:

ORIGINAL: TJSweens

The problem is that teams back off Nolan to take away the drive and dare him to shoot. He can't.


Hard to drive into a zone also. Until they start making 3pt shots regularly, teams will take away the big guys inside


I don't think the Gophers are going to see a whole lot of zone this year, especially when/if Joseph comes back.  With Hoff on one side and Hollins on the other, they'd really have to extend their zone which would leave a lot of offensive rebound opportunities for Mbakwe and company. 

I liked a lot of what I saw last night.  Williams makes you drop your jaw about twice a game, I really like what Hollins brings, and Mbakwe will be huge.  We do need Joseph back though because Nolan will get the Rondo defense and it will bog us down. 




David Levine -> RE: Gopher Basketball (Mens) (11/16/2010 6:15:44 PM)

I still don't understand why we never run plays to get Hoff open.

He can not create his own shot to save his life and he doesn't shoot well on the move, or when tightly guarded. But he can knock down open looks like no one else.

Works great against the crappy teams, but we really need to get more imaginative against better teams.




Jeff Jesser -> RE: Gopher Basketball (Mens) (11/16/2010 8:14:37 PM)

Sampson seems to have improved too which is key. He wasn't nearly as soft around the rim.




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