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So.Mn.Fan -> RE: NFL News (3/23/2009 8:29:43 PM)

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

ORCHARD PARK, N.Y. (AP) -- T.O. was a no-show Monday for the start of the Bills voluntary offseason conditioning program.

Yeah, they're voluntary, but you'd think being new to the team he'd make the effort to show up and get to know his teammates/coaches.


Might as well get that whole ... "I'm a dick" vibe out there right away, why wait a couple months? [&:]

Edwards talked about it afterwards, and put on a good face, but you could see it was bugging the hell out of him to have to answer to it ... already.




So.Mn.Fan -> RE: NFL News (3/23/2009 11:11:31 PM)

DANA POINT, Calif. -- The Pittsburgh Steelers get their opening-night showcase as Super Bowl champions. The oldest rivalry in football has a first-week renewal in prime time. An old AFL-style doubleheader closes out the weekend.
That's how the NFL will begin the 2009 season, starting with as juicy a matchup as possible: Pittsburgh hosting the Tennessee Titans, who merely had the league's best record in 2008 and who beat the Steelers 31-14 at Heinz Field in the 15th game of the season.




Opening kickoff is Thursday night, Sept. 10 on NBC, which also gets the 178th meeting between the Bears and Packers, in Green Bay on Sunday night, Sept. 13.For those surprised that the Cowboys, who open their palatial new stadium this season, are not featured in a night game in Week 1, well, baseball got in the way. So Dallas, the NFL's biggest TV draw, which is moving to Arlington, Texas, near the Rangers' ballpark -- the Rangers are home that weekend -- will have to wait until the second week, when the Cowboys are expected to host the Sunday nighter.
"We have the chance to get on the national game the second weekend with not being able to get on the first weekend," Cowboys vice president Stephen Jones said Monday at the owners meetings. "We're having to work with the league on some things."
The Cowboys and Lions get to keep their traditional Thanksgiving hosting slots.
The Lions go back to meeting the Packers that day, a matchup that occurred every year from 1951-63 and will happen for the 19th time. The Raiders will be at the Cowboys following that, and the NFL Network night game will feature the New York Giants at Denver.
"The Thanksgiving game is a tradition and we're proud to have it and to continue it in the new stadium," Jones said. "It's very important to us."
Commissioner Roger Goodell acknowledged there continues to be discussions about rotating the Thanksgiving afternoon contests.
"We did not feel it was appropriate at this time," he said, adding the league's competition and broadcast committees were looking into the matter.
The Monday night doubleheader on ESPN on Sept. 14 will feature Buffalo, with Terrell Owens, at New England, with, the Patriots hope, a returning Tom Brady. That game will be followed by San Diego at Oakland -- all original AFL franchises.
While the AFL began play in 1960 and is not 50 years old until 2010, the NFL has chosen to observe the 50th season of play by those franchises. The celebration of that league, which merged with the NFL in 1966 and began play as one entity in 1970, begins with the Sept. 14 doubleheader.
Goodell said he was hopeful a proposal for an expansion of the regular season to either 17 or 18 games could be presented to the owners at the May league meetings in Fort Lauderdale. The league is considering dropping one or two preseason games and extending the regular schedule, but remaining within the current 20-game format, although not likely before 2011.
To do so will involve discussions with the players union and the league's media partners. Of course, the collective bargaining agreement with the players expires after the 2010 season, so a longer schedule is just one of many issues in getting a deal done with the NFLPA.
"I haven't made a decision on whether we'll have a 17-game or 18-game season. We'll have a good feeling on it when we come out of these meetings," Goodell said. "We have to sit down with our partners and go through negotiations. We think our content continues to be more valuable to our partners."
In other news, Goodell announced Monday the parameters of the league's new TV deal with DirecTV. According to ESPN Senior NFL Analyst Chris Mortensen, the NFL will receive $1 billion per year for four years, up $700 million from the previous deal.
In the new deal, DirecTV is expected to add expanded elements to its NFL Sunday Ticket package.
Also, the Titans and Bengals each were awarded four compensatory picks in April's draft for free agents they lost in 2008.
In all, half of the 32 teams received compensatory selections, which are given from the third through seventh rounds of the draft.
Goodell also mentioned possibly creating a developmental league: "I would like to explore that in the next negotiations."
The commissioner does not expect an uncapped season to occur next year; the current CBA calls for one.
"I don't believe that will be the case," he said, noting the NFL's calendar for a CBA begins in March.
He noted that nearly three-quarters of the teams did not raise ticket prices this year, and that the NFL has been hit by the economic downturn. The league trimmed its staff by 15 percent and many teams have laid off employees -- even as free agents reap millions in guaranteed salary.
"It's definitely hitting us on our revenue side," he said of the economy. "The risks become greater in that kind of a climate and your revenues become challenged. There's a lot of uncertainty out there."




John Childress -> RE: NFL News (3/23/2009 11:51:51 PM)

The Titans will take a big step backwards next year.  They still have crap for WRs and old man Collins is cooked.  Teams were figuring him out late last year.




Guest -> RE: NFL News (3/24/2009 8:58:36 AM)

N.F.L. Owners Will Vote to Lengthen Season, Goodell Says
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/24/sports/football/24nfl.html?_r=1&scp=6&sq=union&st=cse




Jeff Jesser -> RE: NFL News (3/24/2009 10:02:13 AM)

I'm sure that won't fly with the Players Association.




Jim Frenette -> RE: NFL News (3/24/2009 10:55:06 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Pete C

N.F.L. Owners Will Vote to Lengthen Season, Goodell Says
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/24/sports/football/24nfl.html?_r=1&scp=6&sq=union&st=cse


If they do it by cutting out a preseason game, it would be OK. I'm sure season ticket holders would like it as they don't like having to buy 2 preseason tickets every year




Easy E -> RE: NFL News (3/24/2009 11:09:55 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

I'm sure that won't fly with the Players Association.


I think it will fly, they will just use it as leverage to demand more money.

Lengthening the season seemed to come up for a number of reasons, but a big one was always the common fan getting "upset" when starters get injured in "meaningless" games.

I think this will have the unintended effect of increasing injuries by quite a bit. Starters are going to play more of the preseason, and a whole extra regular season game. But I love watching on Sundays, so I don't mind.




John Childress -> RE: NFL News (3/24/2009 11:51:59 AM)

I think it is a mistake.  Football is already a punishing sport.  There is no need to add more games.

Preseason would be fine at 4 games if coaches used it correctly.

For example, Jackson should have started all 4 games and played at least a half.




John Childress -> RE: NFL News (3/24/2009 11:52:47 AM)

With no NFL-E any longer, the preseason should be the perfect "farm league" for younger players to get experience.




Jeff Jesser -> RE: NFL News (3/24/2009 12:28:53 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Easy E

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ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

I'm sure that won't fly with the Players Association.


I think it will fly, they will just use it as leverage to demand more money.

Lengthening the season seemed to come up for a number of reasons, but a big one was always the common fan getting "upset" when starters get injured in "meaningless" games.

I think this will have the unintended effect of increasing injuries by quite a bit. Starters are going to play more of the preseason, and a whole extra regular season game. But I love watching on Sundays, so I don't mind.



Yeah but the owners aren't going to just say "we added a game so we'll proactively adjust your pay moving forward".  It'll get worked out down the line for guys coming in to that situation but not the guys with contracts.




Jake Carlson -> RE: NFL News (3/24/2009 12:33:33 PM)

I agree, E.  I love sitting through hours of football every Sunday, so the more games, the happier I am.  It does kind of taint many of the records though. While a 2,000 yard rusher would still be extremeley impressive, it takes some of the luster away if it takes him four more games than it did OJ.




Easy E -> RE: NFL News (3/24/2009 12:49:47 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

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ORIGINAL: Easy E

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ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

I'm sure that won't fly with the Players Association.


I think it will fly, they will just use it as leverage to demand more money.

Lengthening the season seemed to come up for a number of reasons, but a big one was always the common fan getting "upset" when starters get injured in "meaningless" games.

I think this will have the unintended effect of increasing injuries by quite a bit. Starters are going to play more of the preseason, and a whole extra regular season game. But I love watching on Sundays, so I don't mind.


Yeah but the owners aren't going to just say "we added a game so we'll proactively adjust your pay moving forward".  It'll get worked out down the line for guys coming in to that situation but not the guys with contracts.


If it's 3-4 years away, the Union will negotiate a percent of revenues and players and agents will adjust. Contracts in the NFL aren't locked in really anyway.

I'm just saying that I don't see the Union making a true block to it. They will make noise for leverage, but I don't think they'll have a huge issue with it..




John Childress -> RE: NFL News (3/24/2009 1:42:12 PM)

A bridge too far

4 years after implementation that is what folks will say as they see a watered down product with too many games and too many player injuries

The greatest season of modern times was the 87 season because it was only 12 games

In that year Jerry Rice had 20 something TD catches and Reggie White had 20 sacks




Easy E -> RE: NFL News (3/24/2009 2:01:55 PM)

I think what you will really see is almost 2 distinct seasons. They are almost there, but the 16 games means that you really only have a 2-4 game "cushion". You can start off the season poorly and recover, but it's still just one season.

They go to 18 games, and the first 5-6 games mean virtually nothing. It won't matter one whit how you played the first 3rd of the season, just how you finish. And teams will start off dominating, but by the end of the season will be a whole different team due to major injuries. Much more than it is now, I mean. Teams will treat the early part of the season like preseason, not really care about their record, and just try to get through healthy to the part of the season that matters.




Jake Carlson -> RE: NFL News (3/25/2009 3:28:53 PM)

Looks like the NFL is playing the irrational reactionary game with their new rule changes outlawing certain types of hits. Give me the old days of guys just hitting each other without having to worry about the tilt of their head or the trajectory of their body.  Goodell is slowly dragging the NFL downhill by making the game way more complicated than it needs to/should be.   I've never been a big fan of Rodney Harrison but I will agree with him on the new rule changes.

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NFL safety Rodney Harrison is not happy with the NFL's new rules. Here are some of his comments:
(Note: NFL officiating czar Mike Pereira joined the show earlier to defend the new rule changes.)
"It's crazy. You've been taught since you were six and seven years old to finish the play."
"Football is supposed to be a man's sport."
"The game is going to slow down and it's going to get softer."
"It's like patty-cake right now."
-- Harrison doesn't think that Tom Brady thought Bernard Pollard put a dirty hit on him. "I feel like Tom is a second-effort guy," Harrison said. "He's a guy who doesn't give up on plays."
-- Harrison says the one rule they should get rid of is the chop block. Harrison doesn't mind if Hines Ward hits a guy up high. Harrison just doesn't like the low hits.


http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/danpatrick/blog/59284/index.html?eref=fromSI





Jim Frenette -> RE: NFL News (3/25/2009 3:51:54 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Jake Carlson

Looks like the NFL is playing the irrational reactionary game with their new rule changes outlawing certain types of hits. Give me the old days of guys just hitting each other without having to worry about the tilt of their head or the trajectory of their body.  Goodell is slowly dragging the NFL downhill by making the game way more complicated than it needs to/should be.   I've never been a big fan of Rodney Harrison but I will agree with him on the new rule changes.

quote:

NFL safety Rodney Harrison is not happy with the NFL's new rules. Here are some of his comments:
(Note: NFL officiating czar Mike Pereira joined the show earlier to defend the new rule changes.)
"It's crazy. You've been taught since you were six and seven years old to finish the play."
"Football is supposed to be a man's sport."
"The game is going to slow down and it's going to get softer."
"It's like patty-cake right now."
-- Harrison doesn't think that Tom Brady thought Bernard Pollard put a dirty hit on him. "I feel like Tom is a second-effort guy," Harrison said. "He's a guy who doesn't give up on plays."
-- Harrison says the one rule they should get rid of is the chop block. Harrison doesn't mind if Hines Ward hits a guy up high. Harrison just doesn't like the low hits.


http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/danpatrick/blog/59284/index.html?eref=fromSI




Just put flags in their belts. It would be more fun watching womens powder puff football then what the NFL is trying to offer




Duane Sampson -> RE: NFL News (3/26/2009 10:22:52 AM)

T.O. in D.C. to Receive Award
Wed Mar 25, 2009

AP reports WR Terrell Owens has a pretty good reason for missing the start of the Bills' voluntary offseason conditioning program this week. The star receiver is in Washington, D.C., attending the sixth annual National Alzheimer's Gala. He'll receive the Alzheimer's Association's first Young Champions Award on Wednesday night for raising awareness in the fight against the disease. Owens' grandmother has Alzheimer's. Owens, who signed with the Bills on March 7, made headlines Monday when he was one of several players who didn't show up for the start of the team's 12-week voluntary workout program.


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Duane Sampson -> RE: NFL News (3/26/2009 10:24:39 AM)

Goodell Wants NFL to Expand Regular Season
Wed Mar 25, 2009

AP reports NFL commissioner Roger Goodell wants more games that count. There are several hurdles before the league can expand its regular season from 16 to 17 or 18 games, including reaching a new collective bargaining agreement with the players union. Still, the commissioner hopes to present a proposal to the owners in May after the matter was discussed at length this week at the owners meetings. "It's possible that we could vote in May, but we want to have core discussions on this," Goodell said Wednesday. "Anytime you have change, there is some reluctance. But it's clear we don't need four preseason games anymore." Goodell said the league has not seriously discussed the subject with its broadcast partners. He couldn't imagine them not being interested in more meaningful games. "I think the quality of NFL programming, that every one of our network partners would say, if they have the chance to have more regular-season programming, they'd be interested in it," Goodell said. "A key point is the fans also recognize players they want to see are not in those preseason games; that's why they are not attractive. They want to see those players play."




Duane Sampson -> RE: NFL News (3/26/2009 2:34:46 PM)

Cowboys to Install Wildcat Package
Thu Mar 26, 2009

The Star Telegram reports WR Isaiah Stanback or a rookie will be the Dallas Cowboys' Wildcat quarterback next season. Cowboys owner Jerry Jones said the Cowboys will install their own Wildcat package. The single-wing formation became popular last season after former Cowboys assistant David Lee used it successfully with the Miami Dolphins in a Week 3 victory over the New England Patriots.




John Childress -> RE: NFL News (3/26/2009 2:56:55 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Duane Sampson

Cowboys to Install Wildcat Package
Thu Mar 26, 2009

The Star Telegram reports WR Isaiah Stanback or a rookie will be the Dallas Cowboys' Wildcat quarterback next season. Cowboys owner Jerry Jones said the Cowboys will install their own Wildcat package. The single-wing formation became popular last season after former Cowboys assistant David Lee used it successfully with the Miami Dolphins in a Week 3 victory over the New England Patriots.


Talk about a day late and a dollar short

By the end of the year defenses were stuffing the wildcat with authority!

(c) Marv Alpert




Duane Sampson -> RE: NFL News (3/28/2009 12:29:38 PM)

    Tony Kornheiser Expected to Return to MNF Booth
    Fri Mar 27, 2009

    Newsday.com reports it appears that Tony Kornheiser will return for another season of Monday Night Football. "We expect Tony to be back," a spokesman said. What about you, Tony? You in? "I told them I would like to do it again if they wanted me back," he said, citing his belief that the show has improved, with "last year better than the year before and better than the year before that."



    What show was he watching? [&:]




Guest -> RE: NFL News (3/28/2009 1:54:10 PM)

I can't believe they didn't receive millions of compaints about that guy.  He's the worst ever, even Dennis Miller was better.




John Childress -> RE: NFL News (3/28/2009 7:46:25 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Pete C

I can't believe they didn't receive millions of compaints about that guy.  He's the worst ever, even Dennis Miller was better.


A complete jackass who doesn't know anything about football.

Even Rush was better because at least he didn't talk all the time

Get rid of 3 man booths!




Jake Carlson -> RE: NFL News (3/29/2009 1:19:01 AM)

I will admit that I enjoy Kornholer on PTI, but he has no business being anywhere near a live footbal broadcast.  Who are they asking if they believe people like him in the MNF studio?!   Jaws/Tirico is enough!




thebigo -> RE: NFL News (3/29/2009 2:24:40 AM)

Bring back Dandy Don and Howard "the Master of the Obvious" Cosell. Or bring in Billy Crystal doing his impression of Cosell.




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