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ORIGINAL: Easy E

Someone dies every 30 minutes from drunk driving asshole citizens who feel it's their right to drink and drive? One big collective shrug. Let the MADD loonies deal with it. Meanwhile, try to understand the hard time Donte Stallworth is having, the guilt he feels, and leave the poor guy alone. Just let him get back on the field with his friends, so he can get back to his normal life and forget about it. Let Koren Robinson have his second chance, and his third chance, and his fourth. People just don't understand how hard it is to deal with an alchohol issue, have some compassion.

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ORIGINAL: Easy E

Brett Favre, people hate him. I mean, hate him with a passion. Because he retired, and unretired, and basically screwed with the Packers management. And this caused some people to absolutely hate him.

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

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ORIGINAL: Easy E

Someone dies every 30 minutes from drunk driving asshole citizens who feel it's their right to drink and drive? One big collective shrug. Let the MADD loonies deal with it. Meanwhile, try to understand the hard time Donte Stallworth is having, the guilt he feels, and leave the poor guy alone. Just let him get back on the field with his friends, so he can get back to his normal life and forget about it. Let Koren Robinson have his second chance, and his third chance, and his fourth. People just don't understand how hard it is to deal with an alchohol issue, have some compassion.

Considering that Donte's "normal life" includes getting himself blitzed, getting behind the wheel of a car and running innocent bystanders down, I don't think I want him returning to his "normal life". 

Just so we're clear...just because I didn't add a ranting tirade on this issue on this site doesn't mean I haven't done my bit of criticism.  The NFL should ban him FOR LIFE, if they do that maybe some of those bozos will learn that they can't get away with it just because they are star athletes.  It wasn't an innocent mistake if someone died. 

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ORIGINAL: Lynn G.

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ORIGINAL: Easy E

Brett Favre, people hate him. I mean, hate him with a passion. Because he retired, and unretired, and basically screwed with the Packers management. And this caused some people to absolutely hate him.

That doesn't even BEGIN to cover why people hate him. The retirement stuff all happened in the last three years of his career. He had a long history of throwing his players under the bus, laying down for Michael Strahan, faking injuries, prima donna antics, and self-absorbed off season stuff LONG before anyone even uttered the "R" word.

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if the media had looked on things with a truly objective eye, Brett never would have come out of retirement, because he would have been properly lambasted 

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ORIGINAL: Easy E

I wasn't trying to start up a Brett Favre debate, or make anyone feel bad for "hating" him. Not at all. He was just a recognizeable example

What I was trying to get at is, as correct as this may be:

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if the media had looked on things with a truly objective eye, Brett never would have come out of retirement, because he would have been properly lambasted 

Where is it for Donte Stallworth? (for example)

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ORIGINAL: Lynn G.

Stallworth's blood alcohol results made every major news outlet. So far, they've been on top of the story - so I don't know that we can yet use this one as an example of people not caring enough to get angry. I think that news outlets are more and more wary of saying things that sound like "guilty" before a person's turn in court, so they are careful with the coverage - but they certainly HAVE reported that news.

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Too bad the media is more about making money that effecting social issues.

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ORIGINAL: Lynn G.

Stallworth's blood alcohol results made every major news outlet. So far, they've been on top of the story - so I don't know that we can yet use this one as an example of people not caring enough to get angry. I think that news outlets are more and more wary of saying things that sound like "guilty" before a person's turn in court, so they are careful with the coverage - but they certainly HAVE reported that news.

I think where E is coming from though is that in the grand scheme of things.   the Jay Cutler soap opera is getting an exponentially higher amount of coverage and there doesn't seem to be any outrage in the media about what Stallworth did.  They reported it to be sure...but most pundits, including sports pundits are avoiding the issue altogether. 

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Actually my point of view is that Stallworth should fry - and I'm sick to death of the Cutler discussion.

I'm not sure if I'm typical on those two thoughts or not. Probably not. [:D]

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I think you also have to take into account the popularity of the player involved.  I guarantee you that if Brady or Romo were involved instead of Stallworth, we'd be inundated with up to the minute reports and over-analysis.  And again, this points directly to how the media decides profitability of each story and not the outrage of the incident itself.

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I think you also have to take into account the popularity of the player involved.  I guarantee you that if Brady or Romo were involved instead of Stallworth, we'd be inundated with up to the minute reports and over-analysis.  And again, this points directly to how the media decides profitability of each story and not the outrage of the incident itself.

That's it in a nutshell. 

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Then what was your point in comparing Cutler to  a murderer, JC?   Look back.  You were the one that brought it up, not me!

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NEWPORT NEWS, Va. -- Suspended NFL star Michael Vick told a bankruptcy court on Friday that his time in prison has given him a chance to think, and he's realized he needs to make some changes.
The ex-Atlanta Falcons quarterback, who is serving a 23-month prison sentence for bankrolling a dogfighting operation, said he knows he committed a "heinous" act that was very irresponsible.
"I can't live like the old Mike Vick," he told a courtroom filled with his family, friends and fiancee. "I was very immature. I did a lot of things I wasn't supposed to do being a role model."
In prison, he's filled his days by reading, writing, playing basketball and working a 12-cent-an-hour job as a janitor, he said. The experience has given him a chance to develop he called "an exit strategy."
Vick is testifying as part of a hearing to evaluate his plan to emerge from financial ruin. He was once one of the NFL's highest-paid players, but lavish spending and poor investments, coupled with the backlash from his dogfighting case, led to his downfall. Vick filed for bankruptcy in July claiming assets of $16 million and debts of more than $20 million.
His plan to pay his creditors is based largely on the goal of returning to a professional football career.
Vick is expected to be released from custody in July, and traveled from a federal prison in Kansas to attend the hearing. He could be transferred to home confinement at his eastern Virginia home by late May, and his agent testified Thursday that he hopes Vick can return to the NFL by September.
In order for that to happen, NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell would have to reinstate Vick, who was suspended indefinitely after he was indicted on the dogfighting conspiracy charge in 2007. Goodell has said he would consider Vick's case after his release.
Vick's agent, Joel Segal, said on the stand Thursday that he would try to negotiate a short-term contract filled with incentives for playing time and starts that could bring in millions. He also said Vick has agreed to plans for a television documentary that will pay him $600,000.
Earlier this week, Vick and the Falcons agreed he would repay $6.5 million of his Atlanta contract, moving closer to cutting ties with a team that doesn't want him. Segal said he hasn't spoken to teams because Vick is still under contract with the Falcons, but that he is in shape and will be prepared for his return.
"There will be determination like we've never seen before to be structured and disciplined," Segal said.
When he is sent to home confinement, Vick will have a 40-hour-a-week, $10-an-hour job at one of W.M. Jordan Co.'s 40 commercial construction jobs, said John Robert Lawson, whose father helped start the Newport News company.
Lawson, 57, said that he has known Vick for more than 10 years and that they have been involved in charitable work together. He said Vick's representatives approached him when the former hometown hero was turned away by other employers.
"I believe all of us make mistakes, and once you've fulfilled your commitment and paid the price, you should be given a second chance," Lawson said in a telephone interview. "He's not a bad person. He made some bad choices."