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Duane Sampson -> RE: Nfl News (2/3/2010 8:21:11 AM)

Jim Irsay: Colts to Make Peyton Manning Highest Paid Player
Tue Feb 2, 2010
 
ESPN's Len Pasquarelli reports negotiations to extend the contract of Indianapolis Colts QB Peyton Manning will begin in earnest after the season, Colts owner Jim Irsay confirmed on Tuesday, and the new deal is expected to make the Colts' star the highest paid player in NFL history and to keep him with the franchise for his entire career. Manning's current deal, the final two years of which have been technically voided, will expire after the 2010 season. "You know it's going to get done," Irsay said during media day interviews. "I think it's clear, and we'll start on it this summer. That's been the way we do things [to hammer out an extension when a player is entering the final year of his contract]. And it'll be the biggest [contract] in history; there's not much doubt about that." Irsay has said in the past that Manning will be "a Colt for life," and he reiterated that stance on Tuesday morning.




Duane Sampson -> RE: Nfl News (2/3/2010 8:22:59 AM)

Manning should get paid double what the next highest paid player makes, he's that good. And no one else is even close. I can't believe some people still mention the hillbillyfuck in the same sentence. [&:]




Duane Sampson -> RE: Nfl News (2/4/2010 10:55:33 AM)

Steve Bisciotti: Several NFL Owners Struggling
Wed Feb 3, 2010

AP reports Baltimore Ravens owner Steve Bisciotti said Wednesday that several NFL owners are facing a financial shortfall that could create "long-term problems for the league" and ultimately result in a lockout. As the Ravens prepare for a 2010 season without a salary cap, Bisciotti hinted the NFL could shut down in March 2011 if concessions aren't made by the players union in negotiations for a new collective bargaining agreement. Speaking at a news conference in which team officials looked back at last season and ahead to 2010, Bisciotti insisted many of the 32 NFL teams are struggling to finish in the black. "I've got partners out there right now whose teams are making less money than their linebackers. I think we've got an acute problem here with the general profitability of the teams," Bisciotti said. "We always knew this was not a big cash-flow business, but when you've got guys like Jacksonville tarping up 10,000 seats to stop blackouts, when you've got teams that are voluntarily staying at the minimum of what they have to spend on the salary cap in order to not go upside down financially, then we already have a structural problem." Three years ago, the owners and players union signed a CBA that Bisciotti labeled "a bad deal" for the owners. "That puts us in the unenviable position of this thing ending in a lockout as opposed to a strike," he said. "There's no cash flow. If we don't get this thing back to the point that teams have enough cash flow ... then there's long-term problem for the league. We're going to have to address that." Ravens president Dick Cass said the club is "doing well compared to other teams around the league. But just because we're still doing well in revenues, that doesn't mean we're generating a lot of profit."




Duane Sampson -> RE: Nfl News (2/7/2010 10:37:20 AM)

    No Movement on NFL Labor Talks
    Sat Feb 6, 2010

    ESPN reports NFL owners have met for several hours to discuss the labor situation, although it appears they are no closer to reaching an agreement with the players' union for a new collective bargaining agreement. League spokesman Greg Aiello said that "everything is status quo. Nothing new to report." Some of the owners listened to a presentation by NFLPA executive director DeMaurice Smith on Saturday as the two sides try to avoid a lockout in 2011, when the current labor pact expires. NFL commissioner Roger Goodell said during his state-of-the-league address Friday that fans "expect solutions ... and we should deliver." Goodell said he and the league's owners want an agreement and it's "absolutely false" that owners would want to see a work stoppage. Goodell bristled about a statement union chief DeMaurice Smith made Thursday. Smith estimated the chance of a lockout next year was "14" on a scale of 1 to 10. "I couldn't make that prediction, and I sure hope he's wrong, and I sure hope it doesn't become a self-fulfilling prophecy," Goodell said Friday. "Right now we don't need a lot of focus on that. We need to take advantage of the opportunity we have right now to structure an agreement and sit down and negotiate. That's how this is going to get done, and we will have an agreement. It's just a matter of when, but talking about options like work stoppages is not going to get us there."




Duane Sampson -> RE: Nfl News (2/7/2010 10:38:43 AM)

Let's just pay the winning team. The owner gets all the game money if his team wins and only winning players get paid. Then all of the millionaire/billionaires can squirm. [&:]




thebigo -> RE: Nfl News (2/7/2010 1:21:08 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Duane Sampson

Steve Bisciotti: Several NFL Owners Struggling
Wed Feb 3, 2010

AP reports Baltimore Ravens owner Steve Bisciotti said Wednesday that several NFL owners are facing a financial shortfall that could create "long-term problems for the league" and ultimately result in a lockout. As the Ravens prepare for a 2010 season without a salary cap, Bisciotti hinted the NFL could shut down in March 2011 if concessions aren't made by the players union in negotiations for a new collective bargaining agreement. Speaking at a news conference in which team officials looked back at last season and ahead to 2010, Bisciotti insisted many of the 32 NFL teams are struggling to finish in the black. "I've got partners out there right now whose teams are making less money than their linebackers. I think we've got an acute problem here with the general profitability of the teams," Bisciotti said. "We always knew this was not a big cash-flow business, but when you've got guys like Jacksonville tarping up 10,000 seats to stop blackouts, when you've got teams that are voluntarily staying at the minimum of what they have to spend on the salary cap in order to not go upside down financially, then we already have a structural problem." Three years ago, the owners and players union signed a CBA that Bisciotti labeled "a bad deal" for the owners. "That puts us in the unenviable position of this thing ending in a lockout as opposed to a strike," he said. "There's no cash flow. If we don't get this thing back to the point that teams have enough cash flow ... then there's long-term problem for the league. We're going to have to address that." Ravens president Dick Cass said the club is "doing well compared to other teams around the league. But just because we're still doing well in revenues, that doesn't mean we're generating a lot of profit."


Let see, several owners struggling, yet you have the big push by the big market team owners to end profit sharing?




So.Mn.Fan -> RE: Nfl News (2/7/2010 2:34:58 PM)

[:-]

While it was the players of the New Orleans Saints who pushed them into the Super Bowl, it's the team's front office that faces a tall order after Sunday's game.
More than 50 percent of the players on the Saints' roster have contracts that expire after the Super Bowl, according to NFL Players Association records




thebigo -> RE: Nfl News (2/14/2010 1:37:26 AM)

The more things change, the more they stay the same...

I love the line Bengals coach Marvin Lewis has been a champion in providing second chances to players.

More like willing to bring in the criminal element that other teams won't.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4907418




Jeff Jesser -> RE: Nfl News (3/7/2010 9:26:17 AM)

ESPN's coverage of Little Ben possibly getting Big Ben in trouble again:


I talked with a bouncer at the bar who was working last night but asked to remain anonymous.  He was asked to stand in front of the the private room that Ben and his friends were in and make sure no men entered. 


What a freaking horrible "news" agency.  Way to keep the dude anonymous.  [&:]




thebigo -> RE: Nfl News (3/7/2010 12:19:17 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

ESPN's coverage of Little Ben possibly getting Big Ben in trouble again:


I talked with a bouncer at the bar who was working last night but asked to remain anonymous.  He was asked to stand in front of the the private room that Ben and his friends were in and make sure no men entered. 


What a freaking horrible "news" agency.  Way to keep the dude anonymous.  [&:]


[&:]




Jim Frenette -> RE: Nfl News (4/16/2010 10:31:47 AM)

Looks like this guy needs to call Tiger for a referal for help.

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2010/0416101ben1.html




Lynn G. -> RE: Nfl News (4/16/2010 10:39:22 AM)

Except the difference is that what Tiger has admitted to doing was consensual. What Ben is accused of doing is criminal.




Todd M -> RE: Nfl News (4/16/2010 10:39:30 AM)

I still said no, this is not OK, and he then had sex with me.

"His bodyguards took him back to the rooms w/bathroom and I said, 'I don't know if this is a good idea' and he said 'it's OK.' He has sex w/me and meanwhile his bodyguards told me friends they couldn't pass them to get to me.


Two statements from the latest alleged victim.

Shouldn't she say - and then raped/assaulted me? She had two chances to.




Lynn G. -> RE: Nfl News (4/16/2010 10:40:45 AM)

Todd,

That statement was taken right after the incident and she was still drunk. She probably didn't have the clear brain to use legal terms - she just described what happened to her.




Todd M -> RE: Nfl News (4/16/2010 11:24:28 AM)

One statement is. The other is from well after.




Lynn G. -> RE: Nfl News (4/16/2010 3:16:43 PM)

There seems to often be a tendency to overanalyze the actions or response of a victim of a sex crime. I think we all have our own notion of how someone SHOULD behave or speak in that situation but the truth is that none of us really know (hopefully) how to properly behave after being the victim of a crime like that. Let's just try to stop being judgmental of how the VICTIM behaves and focus our attention on the suspect.




Trekgeekscott -> RE: Nfl News (4/16/2010 3:45:28 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lynn G.

There seems to often be a tendency to overanalyze the actions or response of a victim of a sex crime. I think we all have our own notion of how someone SHOULD behave or speak in that situation but the truth is that none of us really know (hopefully) how to properly behave after being the victim of a crime like that. Let's just try to stop being judgmental of how the VICTIM behaves and focus our attention on the suspect.


There seems to be a pattern here with Big Ben.  This isn't the first time he's been accused of something like this.  Until someone charges him, he's going to keep doing it. 




Jim Frenette -> RE: Nfl News (4/16/2010 3:47:30 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lynn G.

There seems to often be a tendency to overanalyze the actions or response of a victim of a sex crime. I think we all have our own notion of how someone SHOULD behave or speak in that situation but the truth is that none of us really know (hopefully) how to properly behave after being the victim of a crime like that. Let's just try to stop being judgmental of how the VICTIM behaves and focus our attention on the suspect.


I have a good friend in Calif that one day sat me down and told me how she had been raped a few weeks prior. I had no clue how to react except shock. I figured the best was for me to ler her talk and get it out. Sometimes being able to talk about it helps. She is still a close friend and as far as I see the same person I knew before it. Now that doesn't mean she doesn't have the scares, but it helped her remain friends with me. Evidently she felt the need to tell me maybe for a healing process




Lynn G. -> RE: Nfl News (4/16/2010 3:52:20 PM)

It sounds like you were a very good friend Jim. She didn't need someone judging her or questioning what SHE should have done differently, etc. She needed someone to listen to her. That's the first part of healing.




Todd M -> RE: Nfl News (4/16/2010 4:57:22 PM)

I can focus on whatever I want.

Do I think there is fire with all this smoke? Sure I do.

Did I have a questions about the statement? Yes, and that is why I asked.




Lynn G. -> RE: Nfl News (4/16/2010 5:48:37 PM)

Yes, you can Todd.

But it has become a point of contention with women that when someone is a victim of a robbery or assault, people don't outwardly wonder if the victim should have dressed differently, or fought a little harder, or described their attack in clear and concise terms when they're still in the emotional aftermath of the crime.

But when women are victims of sexual crimes, they are often (although not as much as a decade ago) treated as if they're the suspects, not the victim. That's all my point was about.




Todd M -> RE: Nfl News (4/16/2010 5:54:39 PM)

Your point is more than fair but I believe I was looking at something on a bit different level than the proverbial she probably asked for it...




Lynn G. -> RE: Nfl News (4/16/2010 6:03:08 PM)

Got it.




El Duderino -> RE: Nfl News (4/16/2010 6:24:59 PM)

If she was intoxicated, that would qualify the incident as sexual assault in Minnesota - I guess laws are different in Georgia.




Jeff Jesser -> RE: Nfl News (4/16/2010 9:20:28 PM)

Dude, suffice it say...everything is different in Georgia (and that part of the nation).  




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