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Jeff Jesser -> RE:NFL News (11/28/2007 8:17:57 PM)

[quote="Danimal"]I am not gonna comment on this. Cynicism does nothing but get me in trouble. My opinion is worthless.[/quote] Say what you got man. It's just a msg board.




Andy Lowe -> RE:NFL News (11/28/2007 8:19:15 PM)

Big blow for Arizona, Adrian Wilson is out for the year. If you want to see something ridiculous try to find on Youtube, his standing jump of something ridiculous like 6ft, you almost won't believe your eyes. He is a true freak of nature.




Jeff Jesser -> RE:NFL News (11/28/2007 8:22:59 PM)

[youtube]http://youtube.com/watch?v=7vL19q8yL54[/youtube]




El Duderino -> RE:NFL News (11/28/2007 8:29:15 PM)

[quote="Jeff Jesser"]She was hiding under the covers and didn't see anything. I can't say I blame here one bit because it was probably scary as hell but that's completely crappy. The one person who could help sort the thing out didn't see squat.[/quote] Add this to my previous speculation, and it makes me wonder did SHE catch him cheating? Once again, I have no idea what I'm talking about. For all I know, she was the reason he turned his life around. I just wonder about stuff.




El Duderino -> RE:NFL News (11/28/2007 8:30:51 PM)

[quote="Andy Lowe"]Big blow for Arizona, Adrian Wilson is out for the year.[/quote] But good news for us ... not that I want to take joy in someone's pain, though.




Jeff Jesser -> RE:NFL News (11/28/2007 8:35:42 PM)

[quote="El Duderino"][quote="Andy Lowe"]Big blow for Arizona, Adrian Wilson is out for the year.[/quote] But good news for us ... not that I want to take joy in someone's pain, though.[/quote] After the defeat in the dessert a couple of years ago you can have a freebie on AZ. They deserve it :bang: Behind Atl and 41-zippy, that is the worst loss of my fandomage.




John Childress -> RE:NFL News (11/28/2007 9:08:14 PM)

A shotgun would have worked well for him if the accounts are true. He hears someone in the living room, gets up and locks the door, and the guy either blasts through the door or kicks the door in and blasts. A shotgun blast through the door would have stopped that. However, the key points to me are 1. Why stay in that house when a clear warning was given to you 8 days prior AND you have millions of dollars to move? 2. Did he even have a home security system? 3. After people shot up your truck, what would make you think that a machete would provide ANY protection at all? 4. Sadly, what we are seeing happen to these athletes is just a big media example of what is happening to many, many young Black men since 1980.
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In 2004 African Americans constituted roughly 13.4% of the general population,[24] yet, nearly half, 49%, of all murder victims in 2005 were African American. Sexual assault and rape rates, however, were roughly the same for all races, while Whites and African Americans had approximately the same chances of falling victim to simple assaults. In terms of sex, males were more likely to become crime victims then were females with 79% percent of all murder victims being male. Males were also twice as likely to be carjacked as were females. In terms of income all households had roughly the same chance of becoming victims of property theft. Yet, households with an annual income of less than $7,500 were far more likely to be assaulted, robbed and have their homes burglarized.




John Childress -> RE:NFL News (11/28/2007 9:11:01 PM)

http://www.alternet.org/columnists/story/13805/ http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2007/08/23/violent_crime_race/




Jeff Jesser -> RE:NFL News (11/28/2007 9:49:37 PM)

One thing that pisses me off about the media (and I'm no fan of Taylors) is the way they are trying to sensationalize his past problems. They are painting his as a complete thug who, even though was changing his life around, got bit in the ass by his past. Certainly I don't know the man and/or all of his past but this is what I/we know for sure. 15 Shots fired at his truck over the ATV incident. Probably shouldn't have been there but isn't he a victim here? HE DIDN'T TAKE THE SHOTS DWI - completely false. He passed a field sobriety test but refused a breathalizer. He was arrested for that. The judge threw out the charges after he saw the footage of the sobriety test. HE WAS NOT ARRESTED ON A DWI The kid probably made some bad decisions as a 21 year old. Who the hell doesn't? I'm a white kid from suburbia and I probably made dumber ones in my life. The point I'm trying to make is don't vilify the guy and try and paint him as a thug. It seems like that is what the media is trying to accomplish because it makes it easier to swallow that a thug got gunned down instead of a decent guy that made a few mistakes. Of course I could be 100% wrong but that's the way it looks from where I'm sitting.




Jeff Jesser -> RE:NFL News (11/28/2007 9:53:34 PM)

Quick case in point that always makes me shake my head. Most everyone here knows my thoughts on Vick but what made me cringe was ESPN's photo's of him. Vick - thought to possibly be involved in something wrong - backdrop photo is him with his short hair when he first came in to the league, and he's smiling Vick - Poindexter thinking (don't laugh) of bringing up charges - backdrop photo is him with his corn rolls but in a suit, straight faced Vick - Feds get involved and he's up the creek - backdrop photo is him with corn rolls, head tilted back a bit and an evil menacing look.




djskillz -> RE:NFL News (11/29/2007 9:32:26 AM)

[quote="Andy Lowe"]Big blow for Arizona, Adrian Wilson is out for the year. If you want to see something ridiculous try to find on Youtube, his standing jump of something ridiculous like 6ft, you almost won't believe your eyes. He is a true freak of nature.[/quote] Adrian Wilson is a freak no doubt. One of the VERY best in the game to me.




Toby Stumbo -> RE:NFL News (11/29/2007 5:31:48 PM)

Cleveland Browns may give Derek Anderson highest tender Thursday, November 29, 2007 Tony Grossi Plain Dealer Reporter Phil Savage holds all the cards in the poker game that involves the careers of quarterbacks Derek Anderson and Brady Quinn, and the immediate future of the Browns. On Wednesday, the Browns' general manager laid one of them down. For the first time publicly, Savage said he is leaning toward giv ing restricted free agent An derson the high est contract ten der after the season. The tender of $2.562 million would guarantee the Browns first- and third-round draft choices if a QB-hungry team offered Anderson a long-term contract to be its starter. If Anderson stayed through 2008, he could then become an unrestricted free agent in 2009. Savage said he would not be inclined to negotiate a trade for lower terms, as Atlanta did with Matt Schaub last season. The Falcons initially gave Schaub the highest tender and then traded him to Houston for two second-round picks and an exchange of their first-round choices in 2007. "I think we'd be most comfortable with that 1-and-3 scenario rather than doing something less than that," Savage said. "Then you have to have a suitor. You've got to have somebody out there that's wanting not only to give up picks but to pay a lot of money. And sometimes that can be a double-dip." After trading for Schaub, Houston signed him for $48 million over six years, including a $7 million bonus. Anderson currently is making the NFL minimum salary of $435,000 for a third-year player. Anderson has piloted the Browns to seven wins in his 10 starts (they are 7-4 overall). He is tied with Brett Favre for fourth in the NFL with 22 touchdown passes. He is 11th with an 89.5 passer rating. He is the trigger man of the highest-scoring team in Browns history and finds himself at the throttle of the most compelling rags-to-riches team story of the NFL season. "He's done an excellent job overall," Savage said. "There have been some wobbly moments, some times when you wonder what's happening here. But at the end of games - with no timeouts, backs against wall, do-or-die situations - he's hit the key passes. That's something you can't really coach. Some of it's instinctual, and some of it is just his personality. It's a good trait to have." Savage said with a laugh that after almost every Browns win he receives a text message from David Dunn, Anderson's agent. So there is obviously a desire on Dunn's part to talk about a long-term contract. "I wouldn't say that's out of the realm, without a doubt," Savage said. But signing Anderson long term further postpones the development of Quinn, for whom the Browns gave up a second-round pick and next year's No. 1 to Dallas. Is there room for both Anderson and Quinn over the long haul? "That's a good question," Quinn said. "The funny thing about it is, I've obviously learned through this whole process that you have to take things one day at a time. That's how this league is, that's how my life's been throughout this past year now, so that's the way I'm taking things." Savage said he and the coaches are comfortable with playing Quinn during this playoff stretch if needed. Asked how he thinks Quinn would do in the still-developing Rob Chudzinski offense, Savage didn't hesitate. "I think Brady would plug in and do well," he said. "It's a pretty enviable cockpit to be riding in right now. You've got a pretty solid front line, got a very motivated Kellen Winslow, you've got Braylon Edwards making the catches that he's made on the perimeter, Joe Jurevicius, a pretty solid running game. I think Brady would do well." Anderson declined to comment on his thoughts about the future. "I'm not going to go there right now," he said. "That stuff will take care of itself when the season's over. Right now we're just trying to stay focused." At the beginning of the year, national publications ranked the Browns' quarterback situation the worst in the league. Now they are the envy of some in the league, blessed with two young guns. "It's a quarterback-driven league," Savage said. "Everybody feels like they have to have one. We feel we have two, plus Ken Dorsey. Hopefully, we'll be able to maintain that continuity over the next few months, maybe the next few seasons."




Duane Sampson -> RE:NFL News (11/29/2007 5:42:53 PM)

Randy Moss Taking Plays Off Again? Thu Nov 29, 2007 The Boston Herald reports ESPN analyst Ron Jaworski said he saw New England Patriots WR Randy Moss take plays off during Sunday night's narrow win over the Eagles. "Quite honestly, when I went through the tape, it was the first time that I was personally disappointed in a Randy Moss performance," Jaworski said of the NFL’s leading receiver, who caught five passes for 43 yards in the 31-28 win against the Eagles. "I did not see the same energy on every single play that I had seen so far this season. When he was the No. 1 go-to-guy on a route, he gave great effort and hustle, but there were some plays on the back side when he wasn’t the primary receiver, I did not see great effort. Knowing how the Patriots handle things internally, I’m sure there have been some discussions on Randy that, ‘Every snap, we need 100 percent out of you.’"




Duane Sampson -> RE:NFL News (11/29/2007 5:44:24 PM)

Rackers Injures Cameraman Thu Nov 29, 2007 The Arizona Republic reports a freelance cameraman for NFL Films confirmed that he was hit in an eye when Cardinals PK Neil Rackers shoved the camera back into the cameraman's face as he was shooting Rackers coming off the field after Sunday's game. Rackers took his helmet and shoved it into the camera. The freelancer, Evan Shaw of Flagstaff, declined to discuss specifics about the incident or his injuries. When asked if he had filed a police report, Shaw replied: "I'm still weighing all my options, and I have a lot of options." Shaw has not seen video of the incident because it is sent to NFL Films immediately after every game, he said. Team officials, including HC Ken Whisenhunt, have apologized to Shaw, who is a producer/director in Northern Arizona University's television services department. Rackers also called to apologize, but Shaw has not talked to him. Rackers missed a 32-yard field goal in overtime. As Rackers lined up for the kick, Shaw said he told his assistant that he was going to concentrate on Rackers. "If I hadn't been following Rackers, I wouldn't have been doing my job," he said. Rackers also is subject to team and league discipline. The NFL is looking into the matter, and Rackers could be fined, a league official said.




Duane Sampson -> RE:NFL News (11/29/2007 5:45:25 PM)

Antrel Rolle Says Sean Taylor Targeted for Three Years Thu Nov 29, 2007 AP reports Arizona Cardinals CB Antrel Rolle, a childhood friend of Washington Redskins FS Sean Taylor, said he did not believe Taylor's killing was part of a burglary gone sour, and that Taylor had many enemies on the streets of Miami. "This was not the first incident," Rolle said. "They've been targeting him for three years now." Rolle said many former "friends" had it in for Taylor, who was trying to build a more stable life. "He really didn't say too much," Rolle said, "but I know he lived his life pretty much scared every day of his life when he was down in Miami because those people were targeting him. At least, he's got peace now." Rolle and Taylor, whose fathers were policemen in Homestead, Fla., started playing football together when they were 6 years old. They went on to become University of Miami teammates and NFL first-round draft picks. Both wore No. 21, Rolle for the Cardinals, Taylor for the Washington Redskins. "There was so much surrounding him," Rolle said. "Everyone was talking about him bad, so he just had to distance himself from everyone and live a life of his own. ... Within the last year, I've never seen anyone make such a dramatic change," Withdrawing from a bad crowd isn't easy, though, Rolle said. "They say it was a burglary. It absolutely was not a burglary," he said. "Down South, where we're from, there were many people talking to Sean, a lot of jealousy, a lot of angry people. Sean, he had a large group of friends, and he no longer hung out with those friends, so you never know where this came from."




Todd M -> RE:NFL News (11/29/2007 8:03:33 PM)

My eye, I'm not supposed to get a camera in it. The guy is fine I'm sure. Sometimes life calls for you to toughen up not see how you can milk it.




El Duderino -> RE:NFL News (11/29/2007 9:26:05 PM)

[quote="Todd Mallett"]My eye, I'm not supposed to get a camera in it. The guy is fine I'm sure. Sometimes life calls for you to toughen up not see how you can milk it.[/quote] The guy is from Flagstaff. That town is so full of people looking for a quick buck with no work, I'm surprised he was concerned about doing his job. Of course, I could just be bitter about having to waste 2 1/2 years of my life in that crap hole.




Andy Lowe -> RE:NFL News (11/29/2007 9:54:11 PM)

IMO.....an excellent read, Whitlock is one of the better journalists around. http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/7499442?MSNHPHMA




Trekgeekscott -> RE:NFL News (11/29/2007 10:47:53 PM)

Do you realize how many African Americans are now calling Whitlock an "Uncle Tom" because of this article? Though I agree with a lot of what he said...




Guest -> RE:NFL News (11/29/2007 10:52:57 PM)

EXCELLENT article on the death of Taylor http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/7499442 There's a reason I call them the Black KKK. The pain, the fear and the destruction are all the same. Someone who loved Sean Taylor is crying right now. The life they knew has been destroyed, an 18-month-old baby lost her father, and, if you're a black man living in America, you've been reminded once again that your life is in constant jeopardy of violent death. The Black KKK claimed another victim, a high-profile professional football player with a checkered past this time. No, we don't know for certain the circumstances surrounding Taylor's death. I could very well be proven wrong for engaging in this sort of aggressive speculation. But it's no different than if you saw a fat man fall to the ground clutching his chest. You'd assume a heart attack, and you'd know, no matter the cause, the man needed to lose weight. Well, when shots are fired and a black man hits the pavement, there's every statistical reason to believe another black man pulled the trigger. That's not some negative, unfair stereotype. It's a reality we've been living with, tolerating and rationalizing for far too long. When the traditional, white KKK lynched, terrorized and intimidated black folks at a slower rate than its modern-day dark-skinned replacement, at least we had the good sense to be outraged and in no mood to contemplate rationalizations or be fooled by distractions. Our new millennium strategy is to pray the Black KKK goes away or ignores us. How's that working? About as well as the attempt to shift attention away from this uniquely African-American crisis by focusing on an "injustice" the white media allegedly perpetrated against Sean Taylor. Within hours of his death, there was a story circulating that members of the black press were complaining that news outlets were disrespecting Taylor's victimhood by reporting on his troubled past No disrespect to Taylor, but he controlled the way he would be remembered by the way he lived. His immature, undisciplined behavior with his employer, his run-ins with law enforcement, which included allegedly threatening a man with a loaded gun, and the fact a vehicle he owned was once sprayed with bullets are all pertinent details when you've been murdered. Marcellus Wiley, a former NFL player, made the radio circuit Wednesday, singing the tune that athletes are targets. That was his explanation for the murders of Taylor and Broncos cornerback Darrent Williams and the armed robberies of NBA players Antoine Walker and Eddy Curry. Really? Let's cut through the bull(manure) and deal with reality. Black men are targets of black men. Period. Go check the coroner's office and talk with a police detective. These bullets aren't checking W-2s. Rather than whine about white folks' insensitivity or reserve a special place of sorrow for rich athletes, we'd be better served mustering the kind of outrage and courage it took in the 1950s and 1960s to stop the white KKK from hanging black men from trees. But we don't want to deal with ourselves. We take great joy in prescribing medicine to cure the hate in other people's hearts. Meanwhile, our self-hatred, on full display for the world to see, remains untreated, undiagnosed and unrepentant. Our self-hatred has been set to music and reinforced by a pervasive culture that promotes a crab-in-barrel mentality. You're damn straight I blame hip hop for playing a role in the genocide of American black men. When your leading causes of death and dysfunction are murder, ignorance and incarceration, there's no reason to give a free pass to a culture that celebrates murder, ignorance and incarceration. Of course there are other catalysts, but until we recapture the minds of black youth, convince them that it's not OK to "super man dat ho" and end any and every dispute by "cocking on your bitch," nothing will change. Does a Soulja Boy want an education? HBO did a fascinating documentary on Little Rock Central High School, the Arkansas school that required the National Guard so that nine black kids could attend in the 1950s. Fifty years later, the school is one of the nation's best in terms of funding and educational opportunities. It's 60 percent black and located in a poor black community. Watch the documentary and ask yourself why nine poor kids in the '50s risked their lives to get a good education and a thousand poor black kids today ignore the opportunity that is served to them on a platter. Blame drugs, blame Ronald Reagan, blame George Bush, blame it on the rain or whatever. There's only one group of people who can change the rotten, anti-education, pro-violence culture our kids have adopted. We have to do it. According to reports, Sean Taylor had difficulty breaking free from the unsavory characters he associated with during his youth. The "keepin' it real" mantra of hip hop is in direct defiance to evolution. There's always someone ready to tell you you're selling out if you move away from the immature and dangerous activities you used to do, you're selling out if you speak proper English, embrace education, dress like a grown man, do anything mainstream. The Black KKK is enforcing the same crippling standards as its parent organization. It wants to keep black men in their place — uneducated, outside the mainstream and six feet deep. In all likelihood, the Black Klan and its mentality buried Sean Taylor, and any black man or boy reading this could be next.




Guest -> RE:NFL News (11/29/2007 10:54:55 PM)

[quote="Andy Lowe"]IMO.....an excellent read, Whitlock is one of the better journalists around. http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/7499442?MSNHPHMA[/quote] Sorry for not seeing your post! You are right, GREAT READ!




Guest -> RE:NFL News (11/29/2007 10:59:22 PM)

[quote="Trekgeekscott"]Do you realize how many African Americans are now calling Whitlock an "Uncle Tom" because of this article? Though I agree with a lot of what he said...[/quote] So sad! Anytime a black man tries to show how PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY is the key to success and happiness, his opinion is viewed as being an "uncle tom". :roll: Life is all about being personally responsible whether one is black, brown, white or green.




Andy Lowe -> RE:NFL News (11/29/2007 11:05:24 PM)

[quote="Trekgeekscott"]Do you realize how many African Americans are now calling Whitlock an "Uncle Tom" because of this article? Though I agree with a lot of what he said...[/quote] Probably so, Cosby has been dealing with that for years.




John Childress -> RE:NFL News (11/30/2007 2:14:24 AM)

[quote="Duane Sampson"]Randy Moss Taking Plays Off Again? Thu Nov 29, 2007 The Boston Herald reports ESPN analyst Ron Jaworski said he saw New England Patriots WR Randy Moss take plays off during Sunday night's narrow win over the Eagles. "Quite honestly, when I went through the tape, it was the first time that I was personally disappointed in a Randy Moss performance," Jaworski said of the NFL’s leading receiver, who caught five passes for 43 yards in the 31-28 win against the Eagles. "I did not see the same energy on every single play that I had seen so far this season. When he was the No. 1 go-to-guy on a route, he gave great effort and hustle, but there were some plays on the back side when he wasn’t the primary receiver, I did not see great effort. Knowing how the Patriots handle things internally, I’m sure there have been some discussions on Randy that, ‘Every snap, we need 100 percent out of you.’"[/quote] I agree with Jaws After Reed smacked Moss he didn't want to be out there I was very dissapointed with him. I wanted him to torch the Eagles so bad because all the radio guys here bury him every year. Every time he plays the Eagles he lays down.




John Childress -> RE:NFL News (11/30/2007 2:25:37 AM)

[quote="Andy Lowe"]IMO.....an excellent read, Whitlock is one of the better journalists around. http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/7499442?MSNHPHMA[/quote] Sorry But this guy is WAY off base in key areas. 1. We have no idea why Taylor was killed at this time. It could have been a jealous lover for all we know. Everyone is just speculating. 2. What exactly did Taylor actually do that shows he was a gang member? 3. Blaming the Black on Black killings on hip-hop is absolutely off-base. I have done extensive studies in this area and it has nothing to do with music. The fuel was a. the collapse of the civil rights movement - destroyed hope for the future b. introduction of crack cocaine into the hood c. further disintegration of the family unit d. decline in school quality e. lack of jobs Hip-hop wouldn't even make the top 10 list. Hip spread outside of NYC around 1979. However, it didn't become mostly violent until around 1990 when NWA's influence started overtaking the original rappers. The influence of the crips and blooks and crack had already infiltrated the Black communities a decade earlier. 4. No, Black people alone CAN'T fix the problem. Why should they? First off you need money, government, and resources to fix the problem. Anyone who tells you that you can't throw money at a problem is a liar or a fool. You can't fix anything in this country without money. They sure throw money at their problems. Second, you want integrated solutions because these issues spread across race lines. There are hispanic and other gangs killing each other as well. 5. The intense focus on crime misses the real issues. Crime is a resulant condition of poor opportunities, guidance, and values. DOn't focus on crime, focus on the quality of life and teaching for children. Almost every single article I see on Black on Black crime just illustrates why it never gets better - the authors and the points of view they represent are short-sighted and lacking in real solutions.




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