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ORIGINAL: Pete C

I just heard that Brady is the only player in the history of the NFL to father a child out of wedlock.  The shame.  He also converted to Islam, after 5 years of Mormonism.  He does feel that we should open our borders though, and he thinks healthcare is too affordable in the U.S. 

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ORIGINAL: Pete C

I just heard that Brady is the only player in the history of the NFL to father a child out of wedlock.  The shame.  He also converted to Islam, after 5 years of Mormonism.  He does feel that we should open our borders though, and he thinks healthcare is too affordable in the U.S. 

If it wasn't for all of that, he'd be a pretty good QB.

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ORIGINAL: El Duderino

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ORIGINAL: theman1970

People have real short memories.  The Pats running game is what won the AFC CG.

Which goes to bolster my point.  They were able to run the ball in the AFCCG, and won.  In the Super Bowl, the couldn't, and lost.

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The SB loss is on Brady.  Period.

This is one of the most ludricous things I have read on this board.  No quarterback is going to play well when he's on his ass for half of his dropbacks.  It's not Brady's fault his line couldn't block.  He was sacked 5 times!  I will admit that it was not a good game from Brady, but to say that the loss is on him is silly when clearly his supporting cast stunk, and their D couldn't come up with a stop when they needed it most.

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ORIGINAL: Easy E

If Terrell Owens fathered two kids from two different women a couple weeks apart, I think the entire sports community would explode, there'd be a federal investigation, and he'd be banned for life!

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ORIGINAL: Easy E
If you think the Patriots won those games and Brady was just a part of them, then he's only a part of the loss.

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ORIGINAL: Lynn G.

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ORIGINAL: Easy E

If Terrell Owens fathered two kids from two different women a couple weeks apart, I think the entire sports community would explode, there'd be a federal investigation, and he'd be banned for life!

Again - Tom Brady did NOT father two children.  Just one with the ex girlfriend.

I can't believe I keep jumping in on this because I really dislike Tom Brady and the arrogant, smarmy guy he has become, but I also dislike misinformation that keeps getting passed on as if it's a fact.

Bash Brady for what he really did, not what some tabloid falsely accused him of doing.

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ORIGINAL: El Duderino

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ORIGINAL: Easy E
If you think the Patriots won those games and Brady was just a part of them, then he's only a part of the loss.

That's totally fair.  Brady was the league MVP for good reason, but he couldn't do it without the talent he had around him.  As you mention, the OLine did a spectacular job all year until the super bowl.  That, to me, is the biggest difference between their first 18 games and the last one.

Also, I think the Giants should get more credit than the Patriots should get blame.  The flat-out came to win, wanted it more, and did what it took.  Great gameplan and execution.

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ORIGINAL: Pete C

Some of you guys are amazing.  How many players in the NFL do you think fathered a child out of wedlock?
How many do you hear about?  How many are national news stories? 

And comparing Pac-man to Brady is beyond what I can comprehend. 

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ORIGINAL: theman1970

People have real short memories.  The Pats running game is what won the AFC CG.

Which goes to bolster my point.  They were able to run the ball in the AFCCG, and won.  In the Super Bowl, the couldn't, and lost.

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The SB loss is on Brady.  Period.

This is one of the most ludricous things I have read on this board.  No quarterback is going to play well when he's on his ass for half of his dropbacks.  It's not Brady's fault his line couldn't block.  He was sacked 5 times!  I will admit that it was not a good game from Brady, but to say that the loss is on him is silly when clearly his supporting cast stunk, and their D couldn't come up with a stop when they needed it most.

QBs manage to win games even under pressure. The thing is, they were so good for so long in protecting Brady, that when they went up against a great pass rush, Brady couldn't adapt.

That is a great line, they gave Brady some of the most amazing protection I've ever seen all year. Even in the Super Bowl, they didn't stonewall the Giants, but a few of those sacks were on Brady. You have to expect, in the most important game of the year, that you might have to get the ball out quicker.

And when he did... man, was he awful. He's a great QB, but he played a lousy, lousy game.

If he gets credit for winning 18 games, he should shoulder this loss.

If you think the Patriots won those games and Brady was just a part of them, then he's only a part of the loss.

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Want to be a great guy?  Marry a woman when you impregnate her.

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

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ORIGINAL: theman1970


Want to be a great guy?  Marry a woman when you impregnate her.

Well, now, that's a bit of a stretch. 

Be a great guy by being there for your child, support them, care about them...
Marrying someone just cause you knocked em up?  That is a marriage doomed to failure before it even starts.  The ONLY reason a person should marry another is if they love each other and want to spend the rest of their lives together. 

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ORIGINAL: theman1970

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

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ORIGINAL: theman1970


Want to be a great guy?  Marry a woman when you impregnate her.

Well, now, that's a bit of a stretch. 

Be a great guy by being there for your child, support them, care about them...
Marrying someone just cause you knocked em up?  That is a marriage doomed to failure before it even starts.  The ONLY reason a person should marry another is if they love each other and want to spend the rest of their lives together. 

Maybe, just maybe, an adult should be mature enough not to have unprotected sex with someone who is not his wife?  Have you heard of HIV?

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ORIGINAL: theman1970

I can't believe that educated people have unprotected sex in this day and age.  Call me old fashioned or something.  We certainly should hold someone like that up as a role model.

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ORIGINAL: theman1970

I can't believe that educated people have unprotected sex in this day and age.  Call me old fashioned or something.  We certainly should hold someone like that up as a role model.