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So.Mn.Fan -> RE: RE:NFL News (9/7/2008 2:15:15 AM)

QBs, old and new, among hot topics for Week 1



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By Pat Kirwan  |  NFL.com
Senior Analyst







10 hot topics for Week 1
Every season has a life of its own in the NFL, and when you break it down, every week has a number of hot topics that dominate the storylines.
It's Week 1 in the NFL, and there are so many unknowns that 10 topics will not do the week justice. However, I will limit the first week to 10 issues that will drive the league.



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For the first time since 1991, Brett Favre will sport a jersey besides that of the Green Bay Packers.
1. Favre vs. Pennington
Brett Favre holds so many NFL passing records that there's no point in mentioning them. After retiring this offseason, he woke up one day and wanted to play again but the Packers didn't want him anymore. Even in his wildest dreams, he never thought he would be in the Big Apple with the Jets. The Packers understandably never wanted Favre in their division as a Viking or Bear. The Jets wound up with their former quarterback, Chad Pennington, still in their division as a Dolphin. If Favre wins the opener and continues to build passing records, the pressure shifts to Green Bay. If Pennington leads the Dolphins to victory, it puts a bull's eye on the Jets. There will not be one football fan in the country who isn't keeping an eye on this game.
2. Two rookie QBs start Week 1
There are a number of points of entry for young quarterbacks. Start right away like Peyton Manning did his rookie season and throw more interceptions than touchdowns, battle through the losing and hopefully be upright at the end of the year. Keep in mind, for every Manning there are many more David Carr scenarios. The second choice is to get some playing time late in your rookie season like Donovan McNabb did, and come back for the second season with a taste of what the NFL is all about. The third entry point for first-round signal callers is wait the whole rookie season like Carson Palmer did and hit the ground running in your second year. Matt Ryan and Joe Flacco enter play right away, and their supporting casts aren't great, to say the least. The offensive lines in both situations are average at best. There is no marquee receiver such as Daunte Culpepper had in Minnesota with Randy Moss. Both should struggle early. Hopefully, they both get a good long honeymoon period to develop and learn from their mistakes.
3. Is any player facing more pressure than Rodgers?
There is pressure on every player in the NFL, but I can't imagine a guy with more pressure on his shoulders than Aaron Rodgers. He will sit around a hotel room all day Sunday watching football, and probably watching Favre against the Dolphins more than any other game. Then, he has to get through the long boring Monday waiting for a game that night against the Vikings with Jared Allen coming off the edge, play after play. The Vikes have a great run defense, and sooner or later Rodgers has to throw to win. This will be one tough weekend for the young quarterback.
4. How healthy are Brady, Manning and McNabb?
The NFL got a real scare as three of the biggest names in the league had medical issues surrounding their ability to start the season. This preseason, McNabb looked like he's ready to return, but he hasn't completed a 16-game season since 2003. Tom Brady has a foot injury and hasn't thrown a pass, or played a down all summer. However, with the Chiefs coming to town he should get through unscathed. Peyton Manning is coming off an injury for the first time in his career, but his return looks good and his timing with Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne and Dallas Clark can be sharpened quickly. What will be interesting to see in all three situations is how much pressure packages the opponents use in order to get physical with these quarterbacks. Quarterback hits can be almost as effective as sacks in these situations.
5. Is the Martz offense in San Francisco too much of a risk?
Mike Nolan is a fine football coach, but he enters the 2008 season probably having to win in order to save his job. Bringing Mike Martz in to overhaul the offense is a questionable move in such tough times, and I'm not sure the 49ers' talent sets up well for the makeover. The starting quarterback is journeyman J.T. O'Sullivan rather than former No. 1 overall pick Alex Smith. Pay close attention to how effective their best player, running back Frank Gore, is in the new offense, and how well the offensive line pass blocks.



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Jeremy Shockey could help give the Saints one of the NFL's most potent offenses.
6. Does the addition of Shockey make the Saints' offense impossible to defend?
Since Sean Payton took over as coach and acquired Drew Brees to lead the offense, the Saints have always been able to score points. Jeremy Shockey gives them a dimension they have never had, but he hasn't played all summer so no one knows if he can really go and make a difference. With Marques Colston, an improving Robert Meacham, Reggie Bush and the return of Deuce McAllister, to go along with Shockey, this team could regularly put up 30-plus points. They open with the Buccaneers, who swept them last year and were No. 1 against the pass. It should be a good test for the high-powered Saints offense.
7. Will injuries to Cowboys receivers take Owens out of the offense?
The Cowboys skipped the wide receiver position in the draft and free agency. Then they incurred a number of injuries at wideout and now appear undermanned for a balanced passing attack as they open the season. The question is can Cleveland double Terrell Owens and Jason Witten, and stymie the Dallas attack?
8. How will the new out-of-bounds rule impact the passing game?
The NFL changed the rule on a reception when a defender knocks the receiver out of bounds before he gets his feet down. It used to be that if the referee determined the pass catcher was going to come down in bounds, then it would be a catch. Now it's black and white, if the defender knocks you out of bounds before two feet come down it is an incompletion. As former Steelers coach Bill Cowher and I discussed, the effect of the rule last week made it clear receivers have to work a bit further from the sidelines to withstand the knockout. The defenders, especially the safeties coming over the top, will look to knock receivers out of bounds rather than play the ball. In the end, this rule narrows the width of the field the receivers can work with by at least four yards.
9. Can the Lions run their way back to respectability?
Coach Rob Marinelli has told me on a number of occasions this year that the Lions are a running football team. After watching them practice this summer, I believe the commitment is in place to pound the run. The true test is what they do when down seven points. What will they do when the safety is way down in the box before the ball is snapped? I look forward to watching the "new" Lions work their offense.
10. Are the Texans for real?
I remember when I knew we were a better team at the New York Jets, but the presence of Dan Marino and Jim Kelly made it close to impossible for the improvement to show up in our record. I feel for the Houston Texans, who have Peyton Manning in their division, as well as the Jacksonville Jaguars and Tennessee Titans. They open up against the Pittsburgh Steelers at Heinz Field, which is about as tough an opener as a team could have when they are trying to make a statement. Without Dunta Robinson in the secondary, the Steelers' passing game will be a challenge, but even a loss with solid all-around play will be a sign they may be for real.




El Duderino -> RE: RE:NFL News (9/7/2008 12:36:39 PM)

Holy cow, the Lions look AWFUL.  Peterson might hang 300 on 'em.  If they're lucky!




John Childress -> RE: RE:NFL News (9/7/2008 5:22:46 PM)

Just got in

How bad is Brady hurt?




David Levine -> RE: RE:NFL News (9/7/2008 5:25:36 PM)

I don't think they've said.

They're saying it's an ankle, some announcers think it may also be his knee.




John Childress -> RE: RE:NFL News (9/7/2008 5:38:44 PM)

Thanks

Daunte should call THEM and offer to come for a tryout and a veteran mini 1 year deal if he is really hurt.

He can still throw deep to Moss




Tim Cady -> RE: RE:NFL News (9/7/2008 6:42:06 PM)

Anyone watching Fox? My sound cut in and out throughout the whole second half and still is cutting out.I have Direct TV all my other stations are fine.

Wow Carolina, impressive.




Toby Stumbo -> RE: RE:NFL News (9/7/2008 7:31:38 PM)

Tom Brady may be out for the year [:-]

How about Favre's 4th down floater in the 2nd quarter that went for a TD, that lucky SOB.




John Childress -> RE: RE:NFL News (9/7/2008 8:18:47 PM)

Watching Moss run I see that although his straight line speed isn't what it was when he was young, the biggest decline in him is that he can no longer change direction quickly.  He has to glide into changes of direction.




John Childress -> RE: RE:NFL News (9/7/2008 8:40:13 PM)

Manning really looks hurt out there




So.Mn.Fan -> RE: RE:NFL News (9/7/2008 8:54:26 PM)

The rest of the NFC North is very fortunate that Chicago puts no emphasis on upgrading the QB position. [&:]
Orton showing much more than Grossman, but they'd be scary if they ever really upgraded there.




So.Mn.Fan -> RE: RE:NFL News (9/7/2008 9:02:21 PM)

From Yahoo!

New England Patriots quarterback Tom Brady is expected to miss the rest of the 2008 season with a torn anterior cruciate ligament in his left knee, according to a source familiar with the injury.
While New England coach Bill Belichick said in his postgame press conference that he had no update on the status of Brady’s injury, two sources indicated it involved serious damage to the knee.
“It’s bad,” a team source said. “We’re going to have to play without him.”
Brady was hurt as he stepped up in the pocket to make a throw to wideout Randy Moss. Chiefs safety Bernard Pollard, who was on the ground, lunged forward and struck Brady’s leg, which buckled as he released the ball.
Brady was helped off the field and was later led down a staircase by team officials, presumably to undergo tests.
Fourth-year quarterback Matt Cassel, who had thrown just 39 passes in his career before Sunday, replaced Brady and completed 13 of 18 passes for 152 yards and a touchdown. Cassel, who backed up Carson Palmer and Matt Leinart at USC, hasn’t been a starting quarterback since high school. He won a competition with Matt Gutierrez during the preseason to retain the job as Brady’s primary backup.

Certainly not an official report.
MRI scheduled for Monday a.m. last I heard




So.Mn.Fan -> RE: RE:NFL News (9/7/2008 10:08:44 PM)

Yikes, ugly start to the Colts season.
Hope they don't take it out on us.




thebigo -> RE: RE:NFL News (9/7/2008 10:12:39 PM)

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QBs, old and new, among hot topics for Week 1



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By Pat Kirwan  |  NFL.com
Senior Analyst







10 hot topics for Week 1
9. Can the Lions run their way back to respectability?
Coach Rob Marinelli has told me on a number of occasions this year that the Lions are a running football team. After watching them practice this summer, I believe the commitment is in place to pound the run. The true test is what they do when down seven points. What will they do when the safety is way down in the box before the ball is snapped? I look forward to watching the "new" Lions work their offense.




The Lions are a running team? Pound the run? Please. With that approach, they may not win a game.




So.Mn.Fan -> RE: RE:NFL News (9/7/2008 10:17:29 PM)

Keeps the clock running, Todd. [&:] Thank God.




John Childress -> RE: RE:NFL News (9/7/2008 10:24:16 PM)

If Peyton Manning doesn't get healthy soon the Colts won't be taking anything out on anyone.

Their offense looks like it got old all of a sudden.




So.Mn.Fan -> RE: RE:NFL News (9/7/2008 10:47:16 PM)

Depth is going to be a huge factor this season.

CLEVELAND -- Dallas Cowboys running back Marion Barber was taken to the locker room with bruised ribs in the second half of Sunday's 28-10 victory over the Cleveland Browns and did not return.


A high-ranking Cowboys source told ESPN's Ed Werder that Barber damaged cartilage in his rib cage but X-rays indicated there were no fractures. While the team is uncertain of Barber's availability for next Monday night's home game against the Philadelphia Eagles, the source said the Cowboys medical staff believes that Barber could be treated with painkilling injections and the injury protected with additional padding that would improve his chances of playing.
Ball security would be a concern if Barber wore additional equipment since that is the area where the ball is held against the player's body. The Cowboys' backup running backs are both rookies: Felix Jones and Tashard Choice.




So.Mn.Fan -> RE: RE:NFL News (9/8/2008 3:55:25 AM)

Great place to view highlights from the day's games.

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80a9c29d&campaign=ec0009




John Childress -> RE: RE:NFL News (9/8/2008 8:06:51 AM)

WEEK 1

So much turmoil in just 1 week.  Let's look at the pre-season favorites (as ranked by me) and then compare to how they might look today:

AFC

1. New England
2. San Diego
3. Indianapolis
4. Jacksonville
5. Pittsburgh

The only one of these teams that did well is the Steelers.  After just one week (assuming Brady is gone), I would have to re-rank the AFC favorites as:

1. Pittsburgh
2. Jacksonville (road loss to a good team + I assume their WRs will get healthier)
3. San Diego (lets see if they can bounce back)
4. Tennessee (don't trust their passing game)

There is no one else I would even put at 5.  All of a sudden the NFC looks like the better conference!

NFC

Pre

1. Dallas
2. NYG
3. Seattle
4. Tampa Bay
5. New Orleans

After week 1

1. Dallas
2. Carolina
3. Chicago
4. NYG
5. Philadelphia

If the winner of the Vikings-Packers game looks impressive they could easily bump one of the top 5




Duane Sampson -> RE: RE:NFL News (9/8/2008 9:44:48 AM)

LaRon Landry gets reacquainted with Brandon Jacobs [&:] 


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Lynn G. -> RE: RE:NFL News (9/8/2008 9:50:06 AM)

I'd be interested in seeing the next minute of that loop where they had to come and scrape Landry off the turf with one of those giant spatulas.




Jim Frenette -> RE: RE:NFL News (9/8/2008 11:31:08 AM)

Rumor has it that Moss is lobbying for the Pats to call Culpepper




Stacey King -> RE: RE:NFL News (9/8/2008 11:33:21 AM)

Midway through the fourth quarter, after throwing his second interception, Vince Young headed to the sideline amid a chorus of boos at LP Field.

He pushed away DT Albert Haynesworth, who was trying to console him, and took a seat on the bench. When it was time for the Titans to take the field following a three-and-out by the Jaguars, Young appeared as if he didn't want to go back in.

Collins began taking snaps before Fisher came over and appeared to gesture for Young to take the field. The coach later said a tight hamstring — not a reluctant quarterback — was the issue. Asked about it five times during his postgame news conference, Fisher never changed his story.

"It's not an issue,'' he said. "It is OK; he is our quarterback. It is not a controversy. … We are lucky we have Kerry.''

Teammates seemed confused. Young eventually ran on the field late and ended up getting hurt four plays later.

"I am under the assumption something happened and to him and he was hurt," center Kevin Mawae said.

"I don't know what the situation is so I am not going to comment on it.''

Tight end Bo Scaife said Young's "not a quitter.''

"Whatever happened between him and the coaches or whatever, I am sure it is going to be worked out within the family,'' Scaife said. "The most important thing is we won and I hope he is healthy.''




Jim Frenette -> RE: RE:NFL News (9/8/2008 11:44:45 AM)

Did Barber get hurt last night? I saw that Jones was used most of the 4th qtr




Jake Carlson -> RE: RE:NFL News (9/8/2008 11:50:37 AM)

Barber bruised his ribs and damaged cartilage.  It sounds like he's questionable for next week.




Jim Frenette -> RE: RE:NFL News (9/8/2008 11:59:59 AM)

Thanks. Romo should have passed for those two TD's instead of handing it off to Barber and he might have stayed healthy. [:D]




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