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David Moufang -> RE: RE:The Packers (1/13/2008 1:17:49 PM)
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ORIGINAL: Lynn G.
Someone explain to me why a statement like:
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However, the accomplishments of those 60s and 90s teams give rise to the team's rich history and tradition, something the Vikings (and most teams) will NEVER have.
... isn't rightfully in the category of arrogant and false. This is why Packer fans have the reputation they have - to go to another fan base's board and tell them that their team doesn't have history and tradition. Is that not a perfect example of total arrogance?
Obviously not all Packer fans are like that (I know a really good example), but in general they have the reputation for being both drunk and arrogant. Is there any wonder why that is? I'll bet Lane and Craig absolutely cringed when they read that statement from David. They're trying to show a different side and then David comes along and completely undoes everything they've said.
1. If you don't want people discussing the Green Bay Packers on a Minnesota Vikings board, remove the Packers thread. It's that simple. What in the world do you expect to happen?
1A. The phenomenon of a fan posting messages on a rival team's board is not unique to Vikings/Packers. It happens with all teams. Perhaps the owner of this board realizes as much and set aside a single thread for discussion of the rival team in an effort to keep Packers fans from trolling on the Vikings threads. Makes sense to me. (Or maybe he knows that the Twin Cities are nearly a two-team market.) Timesfour.com has an entire area for threads about other NFC North teams.
2. Let's let Lane and Craig speak for themselves. If they don't like what I said, they are free to reply thusly. Furthermore, if they're trying to "show a different side," they can go right ahead. I'm not going to cozy up to Vikings fans in an attempt to be accepted among them. This is football, not boy scouts.
3. If you feel that the Vikings have lots of history and tradition, you are free to reply thusly. I'll be happy to discuss it. Please make a case for why you feel that way, and the discussion will be much more interesting.
4. I take issue with your remark about how Packers fans: "in general they have a reputation for being both drunk and arrogant." This statement is completely without merit. First off, who else claims they have that reputation? In my opinion, ALL teams have fans who are drunk/arrogant and those who aren't. Packers fans aren't any different. They cheer when their team does well, they boo when their team sucks. Both things happened yesterday. Sports fans are they same everywhere. No team has a monopoly on good fans or bad fans.
4A. I'll be the first to admit that the Packers have some shitty fans. I got shoved at Lambeau once by some drunk bastard for not taking my hat off during the national anthem. I didn't say anything to the guy for fear of starting something. Vikings fans can be real shitty too -- "I hope Brett Favre gets cancer."
5. A Star Tribune editorial a few years ago, I think by Jim Souhan (a Vikings fan), was the framework for what I said about history and tradition. I tried to find a link, but god bless them, it must've been removed. Maybe I can pay $4.95 to view it :)
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